Keeping It Real with Jac and Ral

In this episode, Jac and Ral explore the concept of “leading from the side” - a leadership stance that sits between the traditional command-and-control approach and servant leadership (leading from behind).What organisations need today is less about the single strong person out front giving all the orders, and less about the heroic self-effacing leader in the background, and more about someone who positions themselves alongside their teams enabling, supporting, influencing and co-creating rather than simply directing.Listen in for practical tips on how to build real relationships, ask powerful questions, delegate ownership, and celebrate small moves in that collaborative direction.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

So instead of breaking bad… we’re Breaking Good! In this latest episode, Ral opens up about a recent health scare that became the catalyst for big, positive change.This isn’t her first rodeo, she knew for awhile she wasn’t at peak performance, her Oura ring told her… daily. Jac suggested throwing the ring away but Ral’s smart, she took responsibility and shares how she created a new healthier habit - and the reason it was easier this time by getting crystal clear on her why.Together, Jac and Ral unpack how to use “Breaking Good” moments to create healthier habits, find motivation that lasts, and build a life that feels good from the inside out. ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We are all chasing a good life, a happy life and a meaningful life, but recent research claims we should be chasing a psychological rich life… what is that?A psychological rich life is marked by novel experiences, perspective sharing insights and complexity. This type of life has more discomfort than a happy or meaningful life and asks us to leave our comfort zones and be open to changing our minds, so we get to experience a much richer more reflective life.It's all about your life journey and your accumulation of rich experiences, which won’t always be joyful. Jac challenges you to embrace the challenging, the complex, the uncomfortable and Ral shares one such holiday which was exactly that! She also wants to know what happens when you eat asparagus??Enjoy this psychologically rich episode!---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Following on from last week’s interview with Layne Beachley, in part 2 Ral digs deeper and finds out more about what drives the very healthy and humble Layne, when she knew it was time to stop chasing waves for competition and some very funny stories about marrying a rockstar, picking up litter and what keeps her real… the answer will surprise you! ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Resilience, courage and the power of positive mindset…Seven-time world surfing champ Layne Beachley can teach us how to achieve all three. She’s a legend, driven by immense purpose and she keeps it real in this great part 1 interview with Ral.Hear Layne talk openly about the multiple times she thought of giving up, and how she used the lessons she’s learned and applied these – mental fortitude, her ability to listen to her own body and intuition, her fear of success, her ignorance to her own fears and judgements and when she started taking personal accountability.If you’re chasing success in your personal or professional life, don’t miss part 1 of this inspiring interview with Layne and Ral.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

There are eight traits of high performance Jac has identified after coaching leaders across many different industries – these traits quietly separate the rockstars from the random…After discussing these last week, Jac & Ral went deep and both agreed it was worth doing so in order for our Keepers to get a great grasp on what can set them up for leadership performance success.Do you display the eight raw signals of true high performance?---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Aftercoaching leaders across industries, Jac has seen the patterns: there are a handful of traits that quietly separate the serious players from the seat-warmers. They’re not buzzwords, they’re behaviours. And when you spot them, you know you’re dealing with someone operatingon a different level.In this episode of Keeping it Real, Jac & Ral unpack what those traits look like in action, without the fluff, without the clichés. Just the raw signals of true high performance.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We all see others with more… better careers, happier lives, stylish homes, perfectly behaved kids and we get envious. And we also know that to compare is crazy, because not everything is as it seems.Jac worked in private banking and saw the complexity of lots of wealth… the grief was greater than the joy! What you see on social media and hear from others isn’t always the REAL deal.Ral shares a great learning from James Clear on the times comparison can be really valuable to you. Listen in to find out more. And always remember, the greatest gift that will bring you the most joy is choices 😉---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Some might say Jac is a failure when it comes to cake baking, and whilst Ral is one of Australia’s leading storytellers for business, she’s also been known to not fill a public workshop… is that a failure?In this episode we define failing as not having a go… to win, learn and evolve you need to make mistakes, because it’s how you bounce back that matters.So how resilient are you when it comes to your ‘failings’ – there are 3 levels to resilience and if you can master all 3, especially the ‘social level’ then, like Jac & Ral, you will have no trouble at all embracing failing and failing fast! ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberJames Magnussen Interview:https://open.spotify.com/episode/4WL8vhqMB4WA2wU4OQYM1K?si=zU8WVf4KTY-n8bOm6s786wNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Part 2 – Interview with Founder of Enhanced Games, Dr Aron D’Souza.Aron D’Souza says if we act with intentionality and have a good business plan, we can do anything. This is part 2 of a very inspiring conversation between Ral and Aron whose mission is dedicating his life to impacting and changing the human condition and creating the enhanced age. A new movement… We have seen artificial intelligence go from ‘quackery’ (20 years ago) to being a scientific reality today. Listen in and find out what the next age of mankind will be and how technology and science will enhance the human condition and increase our longevity and wellness. And check out Jac & Ral’s debrief at the end of this episode! Part 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5QuHYNNZ0PwjcXjkSSIo4U?si=QqOJGHlIS228Jb9IF1tK-Q---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberJames Magnussen Interview:https://open.spotify.com/episode/4WL8vhqMB4WA2wU4OQYM1K?si=zU8WVf4KTY-n8bOm6s786wNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Five generations walk into a workplace… and no one can agree on how to send a meeting invite!From Boomers who still love a phone call, to Gen Z who think email is for “old people,” Jac & Ral dive into the hilarious, maddening, and surprisingly brilliant world of generational blind spots when it comes to cross-generational work.Expect a few stereotypes, a few truths, and a lot of “ohhh… that explains it!” moments. Do Jac & Ral have generational BS? You betcha! And what do you think of Ral’s riddle??---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

This week, we flip the script on productivity. Forget your endless To Do list… what about your To Be list?In this episode, Jac & Ral explore how shifting focus from tasks to traits can change everything. Instead of just ticking off jobs, ask: Who do I want to be while I do these things? Calm? Curious? Brave? Generous?From leadership moments to everyday challenges, your To Be list reminds you that how you show up matters as much as what you get done. It’s a powerful mindset shift that invites reflection, intentionality, and a deeper connection with your values. Nice one 😉---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

What if doping wasn’t banned… but embraced?In this unfiltered Part 1 interview, Ral sits down with the audacious founder of the Enhanced Games, Aron D’Souza, who’s taking a sledgehammer to the Olympic establishment.He says the IOC is broken, outdated, and hypocritical and he’s not here to play by their rules. Love it or loathe it, the Enhanced Games are real, rising, and ready to disrupt everything we thought we knew about elite sport and ultimately living longer and better!Listen in and decide for yourself: is this the future of human performance - or pure madness?---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberJames Magnussen Interview:https://open.spotify.com/episode/4WL8vhqMB4WA2wU4OQYM1K?si=zU8WVf4KTY-n8bOm6s786wNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Have you done a joy audit lately?How much of your week involves you laughing, loving and living a joyful life? Jac declares she’s the queen of joy and Ral reveals a new thing she has started doing at home which brings her huge joy…In this episode, we share WHY you should schedule your joy – especially if you want sustainable performance, enhanced creativity and a broader perspective. Leaders who deliberately set their teams and environments up for joy are the leaders that get incremental value and retain great talent.There is so much joy to be had… listening to this episode is a great start 😉---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Being a very successful leader is…. Your ability to attract, retain and develop talent.Awesome talent multiplies impact, accelerates performance, and gives you the force multiplier effect. Is it easy to be a great leader? No. Is it easy to attract, retain and develop your talent? Absolutely not, but if you listen to this episode we will give you a competitive advantage and teach you our core formula which consists of 4 key things to ensure you win as a leader when it comes to hiring, coaching, developing and retaining top people.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We start this episode with some sage advice from Ferris Beuller…                                                                                                                                      There tends to be two types of us in the world… Those who can actively listen and give you their full attention, also known as being fully present. And then there is the rest of us… always on, doing a million things, mind racing like a raccoon on meth! In this episode we talk about why it pays to be present and we share tips on how to become more present. We even make a couple of commitments to each other – find out what they are and you can play along at home---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon. https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

The biggest trap in life? Thinking your current path is the only path. In this episode we introduce you to the Odyssey Plan – a 20 minute personal exercise that encourages you to zoom out, ask yourself bigger questions to reveal 3 possible futures and forces you to confront what you really want. For Ral – her plan reveals less work and move over Ellen Degeneres!For Jac – linen and leather, Kenya and a few leopards  The Odyssey Plan shows you how many options you have and which ones are worth pursuing – get to it!---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon. https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Are your co-workers your mates? Do you love working with them? Have you stayed longer in a role that didn’t serve you because of your coworkers? Yep, guilty.Have you been promoted and all of a sudden your great mate colleagues now report to you, and things feel different for them and for you? Have you left a role and promised a co-worker or direct report you will take them with you…? This topic is one that not only applies to your work mates, it can also apply to people outside of work, to running a business and clients not coming with you as you grow or change. This episode will make you think, and it will give you confidence and ideas on how to move forward and why sometimes it is really smart to leave others behind…---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon. https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon. https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.comkeepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.comshow5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0ifsi=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Do you stay “small” because of fear? Hold yourself back from doing ‘the thing’? Not meet the person. Avoid grasping the opportunity for fear of what might happen (negative) or what people might think? You’re living a life in fear and that is a life half lived. In this episode Jac & Ral encourage you to try living a life of courage instead – don’t wait for permission, validation or reassurance, take 1 small step and start taking Ral’s 4 simple actions to make a change starting today. Jac shares a simple exercise for you to try – if that doesn’t put courage in your life, nothing will. The question shouldn’t be what if I fail, the question should be what if I fly?---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown