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The Kinsella on Liberty podcast covers libertarian theory and applications, especially from an Austrian, Rothbardian and anarchist perspective. The podcast is released irregularly, occasionally includes a short monologue or interview or discussion with someone else, but consists mainly of speeches, lectures, and interviews on other podcasts, often on the topic of intellectual property, but on other topics as well. Youtube video links are provided on the website where available, at https://stephankinsella.com/kinsella-on-liberty-podcast/.
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Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 444.
I had forgotten about this conversation with "AlexAnarcho" back in May 2024. Here it is.
Property rights, ideas & fungibility w/ Stephan Kinsella released 05/02/2024
Stephan Kinsella is a pioneer on the topic of intellectual property (IP). His arguments against IP also carry over to the cyberspace. Can you even "own" Bitcoin? After all, it is just a number on an elliptic curve...
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 443.
“Abortion: A Radically Decentralist Approach,” 2024 Annual Meeting, Property and Freedom Society, Bodrum, Turkey (Sep. 22, 2024). This will also be podcast soon at the Property and Freedom Podcast as PFP284. See: “Abortion: A Radically Decentralist Approach” (PFS 2024).
https://youtu.be/v9bDRDD2wWU
Panel discussion:
https://youtu.be/vFCZLT4tMY4
Notes below, followed by Youtube's automatic transcript.
Abortion: A Radically Decentralist Approach
Stephan Kinsella
Property and Freedom Society
2024 Annual Meeting
Bodrum, Turkey
September 19–24, 2024
Alright, let’s have as much fun as we can with a topic like this.
Contentious issues among libertarians:
Anarchy vs. Minarchy
Forms of state: monarchy vs. democracy
Open borders vs. mass immigration
Intellectual Property (we are winning this one)
Israel vs. Gaza
Ukraine vs. Russia
Abortion: Pro-choice and Pro-Life
I’ve changed my own mind a bit on this issue, after becoming a parent: from pro-choice. to more sympathetic to pro-life arguments, and to my current decentralist view
Traditionally libertarians have tended to be pro-choice, including virtually all Objectivists, though there were always some minority pro-life voices (e.g. Doris Gordon of L4L).
In recent years many seem to be more conservative, and more friendly to religion, and many more opposed to abortion than in the past.
The LP removed its pro-choice plank in Reno in 2022 as part of the Mises Caucus takeover, the “Reno Reset,” arguing that the issue is not settled and each candidate should be able to adopt their own position on this issue.
On some issues it seems possible to make progress. Many libertarians come from conservatism, or sometimes leftism, moving at first towards libertarian minarchism and then eventually to libertarian anarchism.
I changed my mind on the IP issue and have managed to persuade a large number of people to adopt the anti-IP position.
Views change on the issue of open borders and immigration and on particular issues like Israel vs. Gaza and Russia v. Ukraine.
But it seems almost impossible for anyone to change someone else’s mind on the abortion issue.
The fact that this issue seems intractable, often rooted in deep lifestyle preferences or religious beliefs, is relevant, I think to how this issue is best solved in a political-legal sense.
See Loren E. Lomasky, Persons, Rights, and the Moral Community (New York: Oxford University Press, 1987), p. 91: “The intractability of the dispute … may itself be philosophically significant.”
There are the well-known arguments
Pro-choice
There is the modern, or feminist, argument: it’s my body.
Of course the response is that there is a baby inside which complicates the matter
For this reason even most pro-choice people do not not favor legality until birth
Ayn Rand: “abortion is a moral right-which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved.” (“Of Living Death,” The Objectivist, Oct. 1968, 6)
In Rand’s view, opposition to abortion arises from a failure to grasp both the context of rights and the imposition that child-bearing places on women. As she put it: “A piece of protoplasm has no rights-and no life in the human sense of the term. One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months.”
So even Randians recognize difficulty in the later stages of pregnancy
Pro-life
Then there is the religious-based pro-life argument
As this is religious, it is not exactly rational since people of different faiths can have different beliefs about souls, life, rights, and so on
Libertarian abortion arguments
Pro-Life
Doris Gordon of Libertarians for Life: Pro-life
she was a neo-Randian and had a secular argument against abortion.
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 442.
This is a debate between me and Walter Block about voluntary slavery contracts, hosted by Matthew Sands of the Nations of Sanity project as part of his "Together Strong" debate series. (See previous episode KOL426)
Unedited transcript (from Youtube) below.
https://youtu.be/x6ecMmBpGs8?si=veUW9EnXhwujEAo1
Notes:
For further discussion of this topic, see:
chapters 9–11, from Legal Foundations of a Free Society (2024; LFFS), namely "A Libertarian Theory of Contract: Title Transfer, Binding Promises, and Inalienability," "Inalienability and Punishment: A Reply to George Smith," and "Selling Does Not Imply Ownership, and Vice-Versa: A Dissection"
Re the "Zombicide" and psychosurgery comments, see ch. 10, text at n.37, citing Randy E. Barnett The Structure of Liberty: Justice and the Rule of Law, 2d ed. (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2014), p. 78 & n. 39
See also, on this, Randy E. Barnett, “Rights and Remedies in a Consent Theory of Contract,” in R.G. Frey & C. Morris, eds., Liability and Responsibility: Essays in Law and Morals (Cambridge University Press, 1991), p. 157; idem, “Contract Remedies and Inalienable Rights” in “Symposium on Philosophy and Law,” Social Policy and Philosophy 4, no. 1 (1986): 179–202, p. 188;
In addition to Walter Block and Robert Nozick, libertarian philosopher Gerard Casey apparently agrees with Block that voluntary slavery contracts are legitimate and enforceable. See Gerard Casey, Libertarian Anarchy: Against the State (Continuum International Publishing Group, 2012), ch. 6, n.6: “… after a conversation with Walter Block on the topic of voluntary slavery, I am persuaded that there can be no legitimate objection to that principle’s encompassing specific performance also.”
My paper, The Title-Transfer Theory of Contract (Papian Press Working Paper #1)
KOL004 | Interview with Walter Block on Voluntary Slavery and Inalienability
Other than Block and Nozick, Gerard Casey also seems to favor voluntary slavery: “Can You Own Yourself?“, Research Depository UCD Dublin (Dec. 2011)
A few comments.
African Slavery
Walter favors voluntary slavery but not involuntary slavery; this was one reason he sued the New York Times for defamation, since they claimed he supported slavery (if I recall correctly; 1, 2, 3). But how do we know that all the African slaves in antebellum America were involuntary slaves? Is it established that every African shipped to the US from Africa went against their will? What if they heard life was better in America, and they volunteered to go even knowing they would be enslaved. Wouldn't such a slavery contract be enforceable in Walter's view of slavery?
Or take another example. Suppose Jones, owner of a plantation in Louisiana, owns a slave Toby, but he starts to feel bad about slavery and he manumits Toby, and tells him to leave. Toby says he has no money, no food, and he doesn't want to wander around in Louisiana where he might be attacked or enslaved again, and says he would prefer to just stay on Jones's plantation and work for him. Jones says well okay but only if you sell yourself to me and be my slave. So Toby sells himself to Jones. Wouldn't this be legitimate and enforceable, according to Walter's theory?
Forced Sex with a Prostitute
Walter says that if you sell yourself into slavery, then if you try to run away you are stealing the property of your owner. He is entitled to use force against you since you are disobeying him. Now around 52:13, Mathew asks Walter about my hypothetical about kissing a girl. I had explained that it's not assault/battery or aggression if you kiss a girl if she consents. If during dinner she promises to let you kiss her when you drop her off, and you do, it's also not consent, since her last communication set up a sort of standing presumption. As I write in ch. 9 of LFFS, Part III.C.1:
If a girl promises a kiss at the end of the date and the boy...
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 441.
This is Episode 238 of The Bitcoin Standard Podcast, with Dr. Saifedean Ammous, author of The Bitcoin Standard. From his shownotes:
Legal Scholar Stephan Kinsella joins to discuss his new book, Legal Foundations of a Free Society, in which he discusses libertarianism as a system for determining legitimate property rights, why property rights are important, and the problem with intellectual property rights..
https://youtu.be/l-0IG38raGw?si=NNCOa3-AKn1YkQl-
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 440.
My appearance on The Rational Egoist: Debating the Moral Status of Intellectual Property with Stephan Kinsella: Part IIb. (Spotify)
Shownotes:
The Rational Egoist: Concluding the Intellectual Property Debate with Stephan Kinsella (Part 2 of 2)
In this final episode of a two-part series, host Michael Liebowitz concludes his engaging debate with Stephan Kinsella, a libertarian patent attorney and author, on the moral and legal status of intellectual property. Building on the groundwork laid in the previous discussion, Michael and Kinsella delve further into the core arguments surrounding IP rights, examining their effects on creativity, innovation, and property law.
The episode offers compelling insights into both sides of the debate, providing a thorough exploration of one of the most contested issues in legal and economic theory. Tune in for the conclusion of this thought-provoking exchange that challenges established viewpoints and offers fresh perspectives on intellectual property.
https://youtu.be/mMa-Cbyq34w?si=_x1_q8VoeFuVJSvO
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 439.
My appearance on The Rational Egoist: Debating the Moral Status of Intellectual Property with Stephan Kinsella: Part IIa. (Spotify) Michael will release the second half, PartIIb, later.
Shownotes:
The Rational Egoist: Resuming the Intellectual Property Debate with Stephan Kinsella (Part 1 of 2)
In this episode of The Rational Egoist, host Michael Liebowitz resumes his debate with Stephan Kinsella, a libertarian patent attorney and author, on the contentious issue of intellectual property. Picking up from their conversation a couple of weeks ago, Michael and Kinsella dive even deeper into the philosophical and legal arguments concerning IP rights. This is part one of a two-part series that explores the impact of intellectual property on innovation, individual rights, and economic systems. Join them for a rigorous exchange of ideas that challenges conventional thinking and sets the stage for the next episode's continuation.
Michael Leibowitz, host of The Rational Egoist podcast, is a philosopher and political activist who draws inspiration from Ayn Rand’s philosophy, advocating for reason, rational self-interest, and individualism. His journey from a 25-year prison sentence to a prominent voice in the libertarian and Objectivist communities highlights the transformative impact of embracing these principles. Leibowitz actively participates in political debates and produces content aimed at promoting individual rights and freedoms. He is the co-author of “Down the Rabbit Hole: How the Culture of Correction Encourages Crime” and “View from a Cage: From Convict to Crusader for Liberty,” which explore societal issues and his personal evolution through Rand’s teachings.
https://youtu.be/8NfUVzLe4gI?si=OY3RCZ9ekYGEqcYU
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 437.
My appearance on The Rational Egoist: Debating the Moral Status of Intellectual Property with Stephan Kinsella. We focused here mostly on property rights and other precursor concepts. We plan to have a followup discussion to get into the nitty gritty of the application of these more basic concepts and principles to the topic of IP. (Spotify)
Shownotes:
In this episode of The Rational Egoist, host Michael Liebowitz engages in a thought-provoking discussion and debate with Stephan Kinsella, a libertarian writer and patent attorney, on the moral status of intellectual property. The complexity of the issue sparks a deep dive into the ethical and legal dimensions of IP rights, leading to a conversation so rich that it had to be continued in a future episode.
Kinsella, known for his critical views on intellectual property, challenges conventional notions, while Michael offers his own perspective. This episode promises to be a captivating exploration of one of the most debated topics in the intersection of law, philosophy, and economics. Tune in for a rigorous and intellectually stimulating debate that leaves no stone unturned.
https://youtu.be/-Xc3nW2rVX8?si=qUCLG--2U2SJRdtU
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 436.
I was interviewed today by Kelly Patrick of the Kelly Patrick Show ep. 777. I fielded questions from his The Kelly Patrick Show Political Chat facebook group, mostly questions from nonlibertarians or people critical of libertarianism. We discussed the prospects of liberty, activism, why people are not persuaded by libertarian arguments, the prospects of the Libertarian Party, intellectual property, anarchism, and so on.
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 435.
I was interviewed by Daniel Morena Vitón and Luis Abram for a Spanish libertarian podcast, as he initially told me: "The interview is about some legal questions of libertarianism, for a new libertarian association in Spain founded by Jesús Huerta de Soto, the 'Austrian Libertarian Association.'" I believe there were technical problems with the recording of the first question or two, so I was asked to repeat my answer near the end; sure how they ended stitching this together or editing this.
From their shownotes (Google autotranslate):
Stephan Kinsella will give the keys regarding various topics from intellectual issues that concern libertarianism such as intellectual property and the challenges that it entails, as well as more current topics such as libertarians in politics or the current libertarian parties that the political landscape houses.
https://youtu.be/L78827aNHR0?si=g3rv2hkfcDJnt79m
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 434.
My appearance on The Rational Egoist: Exploring The Objectivist Ethics with Stephan Kinsella. (Spotify)
https://youtu.be/Dzv1euK5XKg?si=vcvjrh3XZ9sCRx9Y
Join host Michael Liebowitz for a thought-provoking episode of The Rational Egoist as he engages in a stimulating discussion with Stephan Kinsella, a prominent libertarian writer and patent attorney, on The Objectivist Ethics. In this enlightening conversation, Michael and Stephan delve into the foundational principles of Objectivism, exploring its ethical framework, implications for individual freedom, and relevance in contemporary society.
Drawing on his expertise in libertarian legal theory and intellectual property law, Stephan Kinsella offers valuable insights into The Objectivist Ethics, as formulated by philosopher Ayn Rand. He provides a comprehensive overview of Rand's philosophical system, highlighting its emphasis on reason, individualism, and rational self-interest as the basis for moral conduct.
Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of The Objectivist Ethics, as Michael and Stephan explore its implications for issues such as property rights, personal autonomy, and the pursuit of happiness. They discuss the role of rational self-interest in fostering human flourishing and examine the ethical principles that underpin a free and just society.
This episode serves as a platform for intellectual inquiry and philosophical exploration, as Michael and Stephan engage in a rigorous examination of Objectivist ethics and its implications for human behavior and social organization. Through reasoned discourse and critical analysis, they offer listeners valuable insights into the moral foundations of liberty and the pursuit of individual well-being.
Tune in to The Rational Egoist for an enlightening conversation with Stephan Kinsella as we explore The Objectivist Ethics. Whether you're a student of philosophy, a curious thinker, or someone seeking to deepen your understanding of ethical principles, this episode promises to inform, inspire, and provoke thoughtful reflection on the nature of human morality and the pursuit of a rational life.
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 433.
This is my appearance on The Big Questions with Big John. From his shownotes:
Libertarian Stephan Kinsella shares his background as an engineer turned lawyer. A conversation on IP rights delves into arguments against patents & copyrights.
https://youtu.be/SpcQUIMsj5k?si=zEnZZXcEM3IY5UL-
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 432.
My appearance on Adam Haman's podcast and Youtube channel, Haman Nature (Haman Nature substack), episode 27. I have previously argued against "school choice" (KOL419 | Soho Forum Debate vs. Corey Deangelis: School Choice). Adam wrote an article promoting school choice and I objected to it. He invited me to come back on his show to discuss and I did and, well, he kinda sorta changed my mind, or at least softened my opposition.
I love these kind of real conversations when people actually listen to each other with the shared goal of promoting liberty and reaching the truth, and with no ego or other investments involved that could prevent you from seeing reason or truth or the other guy's position and even being willing to change your mind. And I like when I lose! I mean it rarely happens, but I like it--it means I learned something. Which is also increasingly rare. Enjoy!
https://youtu.be/WOcHI4Jtn9s?si=6U-GX8013NJtWYvh
Adam's shownotes:
Well, "debate" is too strong a word, but brilliant smarty-pants Stephan Kinsella had some disagreements about an article Adam wrote about school choice and was gracious enough to come on Haman Nature to discuss them.
00:00 – Intro.
01:15 -- Happy birthday to Adam! Stephan's gives him an... odd present. Also, Adam recounts the article he wrote that prompted this talk.
02:54 -- Stephan lays out his position on school choice, and similar "reform" measures or "incrementalism".
06:55 – Adam defends. Let the "debate" begin!
15:33 – Adam scores a point!
17:13 – And another! And possibly another (depending on... math)!
22:15 – Adam swings hard. Is it a home run? 24:26 – Adam makes a prediction about markets and innovations under school choice.
26:10 -- Stephan makes some strong and principled objections.
28:52 -- Adam scores another point! Plus, the biggest moment in the entire episode.
33:36 -- A very important legislative clause to watch like a hawk. Also, is it worth the risk?
35:18 -- Say it was up to you as the deciding vote. Which way do you cast it?
38:36 -- Hey, Corey! Plus, Stephan gives Adam a much better birthday present!
39:57 -- Outro.
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Stephan's Soho Forum debate with Corey DeAngelis on School Choice:
Adam's other show: Natural Order Podcast
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 431.
My appearance on The Rational Egoist: Exploring Hoppe's Argumentation Ethics with Stephan Kinsella. (Spotify)
https://youtu.be/hgPJCebYj-I?si=hPN2vGmj_dbkdtk4
From his shownotes:
In a stimulating episode of The Rational Egoist, host Michael Liebowitz engages in a thought-provoking discussion and debate with Stephan Kinsella, a prominent libertarian writer and patent attorney, on Hoppe's Argumentation Ethics. Drawing on their deep knowledge of libertarian legal theory and philosophical principles, Michael and Stephan delve into the nuances of Hoppe's argument and its implications for understanding individual rights and property norms.
Hoppe's Argumentation Ethics serves as the focal point of this conversation, as Michael and Stephan critically examine its premises, logic, and implications. With rigorous analysis and intellectual rigor, they explore the foundational principles underlying argumentation ethics and assess its strengths and weaknesses as a framework for understanding natural rights and ethical norms.
Listeners will be treated to a dynamic exchange of ideas and perspectives, as Michael and Stephan engage in a spirited debate on key aspects of argumentation ethics, including its reliance on self-ownership, the universality of ethical principles, and its compatibility with other libertarian theories of property and justice. Through reasoned discourse and respectful disagreement, they offer listeners a comprehensive overview of the complexities involved in grappling with foundational questions of ethics and rights.
This episode is not just an intellectual exercise but also a testament to the vitality of philosophical inquiry and the importance of engaging in robust dialogue to deepen our understanding of fundamental concepts. Whether you're a seasoned libertarian thinker, a student of philosophy, or someone curious about the intersection of ethics and political theory, this episode offers a captivating exploration of Hoppe's Argumentation Ethics and its implications for our understanding of individual freedom and moral principles.
Tune in to The Rational Egoist for an enlightening conversation with Stephan Kinsella, as we delve into the intricacies of Hoppe's Argumentation Ethics and its relevance for contemporary debates on rights, justice, and human flourishing. Whether you find yourself nodding in agreement or raising questions of your own, this episode promises to ignite your curiosity and inspire deeper reflection on the principles that underpin a free and just society.
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 429.
A facebook friend from Brazil, Bruno Pires, corresponded with me about some various issues and we decided to discuss it for a podcast episode. We discuss a variety of issues.
See his promoted VPN sponsor Aria VPN.
https://youtu.be/a8YdkT2_Tec
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 428.
I was a guest on Episode 316 of The Bob Murphy Show, entitled “Stephan Kinsella on Rothbard’s Contributions to Legal Theory." Bob's shownotes: "Stephan joins Bob to discuss his new book, Legal Foundations of a Free Society. They cover Rothbard’s contributions to legal theory, as well as Bob and Stephan’s differing entry points into libertarianism."
https://youtu.be/iWx8DKMwk30?si=54KjWm_BndPX4a_e
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 427.
Yesterday (April 10, 2024) I participated in Strings Attached: Tracing the Global Systems that Bind, 62nd Annual International Affairs Symposium, Lewis & Clark College, Portland Oregon, Debate 5: Pirates and Patents. Debate Topic: Is international intellectual property regulation a necessary protection for innovators or a form of modern imperialism?
My opponent was Pieter Cleppe. My notes are appended below.
https://youtu.be/f_cpqc-oHd0
We got along well and had a nice dinner after the debate.
(Unofficial iphone Audio (mp3))
Strings Attached: Tracing the Global Systems that Bind.
62nd Annual International Affairs Symposium
Debate 5: Pirates and Patents.
Debate Topic: Is international intellectual property regulation a necessary protection for innovators or a form of modern imperialism?
Lewis & Clark College, Portland Oregon
April 10, 2024
Stephan Kinsella
Debate Topic: Is international intellectual property regulation a necessary protection for innovators or a form of modern imperialism?
“Patents, copyrights, trademarks, etc, are intangible legal protections that allow creators to monopolize the distribution of their ideas. The international system managing these rights is often praised for promoting and protecting innovation. However, it raises the costs of acquiring new technologies, life-saving medicines, and access to knowledge for developing states. How should international intellectual property standards balance these competing interests?”
Introduction
I am a practicing patent and intellectual property, or IP, attorney for 30 years and a libertarian for even longer than that.
At the dawn of my career, after many years of research and thought, I came to the conclusion that all forms of IP law are completely unjust.
This perspective will inform my remarks today.
Notice my opponent’s remarks were not systematic and did not carefully define the relevant terms.
In fact his arguments rested on two false assumptions: that patent and copyright increase innovation, and that IP law is therefore justified.
Imperialism and IP
What is imperialism? Imperialism: “a policy of extending a country’s power and influence through diplomacy or military force.”
“Imperialism is when a country extends its power into other territories for economic or political gain.”
Now, IP law is prevalent in the west: patent, copyright, trademark, and other forms.
There can be little doubt that the west, especially the United States, has used its influence and power to push or even coerce other countries to adopt US-style IP law, primarily patent and copyright
This is done sometimes by direct imposition or, more usually, by softer forms of coercion such as investment and free trade agreements or other international treaties
Direct imposition/coercion:
for example the US expanded Iraqi patent law by decree in 2004, by order of Paul Bremer, the “Administrator” of the “Coalition Provisional Authority”
German constitution, or “Basic Law,” 1949, under US domination: Article 96 authorizes the establishment by federal law of the Federal Patent Court
Example below: under pressures from the west, the Thai government specifically undertook not to implement Article 8 (on compulsory licensing) for HIV/AIDS treatment
Treaties: The Berne Convention already requires member states to have a minimum copyright term of life of the author plus 50 years; the US has added 20 years to this(life plus 70)
Treaties such as the Paris Convention and Patent Cooperation Treaty require member states to maintain certain minimum patent protections
The US uses its dominant position to force other countries or regions to adopt US-style IP policies via “free trade” agreements and others like Bilateral Investment Treaties (BITs)
2500 BITs in the world today, many US-sponsored
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 426.
Matthew Sands of the Nations of Sanity project, which aims to promote the Non-Aggression Principle as a universal peace agreement, and I discussed various issues including: immigration and open borders, and so on.
(See previous episode with Matthew, KOL372 | Discussing Contract Theory, Restitution, Punishment, with Matthew Sands of Nations of Sanity and KOL362 | California Gold #6, with Matt Sands: Defining Libertarianism, Anarchism and Voluntaryism.)
https://youtu.be/zXKxc8QxqKo
Related links:
Switzerland, Immigration, Hoppe, Raico, Callahan
A Simple Libertarian Argument Against Unrestricted Immigration and Open Borders, LewRockwell.com, September 1, 2005
Van Dun on Freedom versus Property and Hostile Encirclement
Libertarian Answer Man: Homesteading Donuts, Hostile Encirclement, and Prostitution as Selling One’s Body
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 425.
From Adam Haman's show Haman Nature. Released Feb. 15, 2024.
From Adam's shownotes:
Adam gets all intellectual and stuff with Stephan Kinsella. Part two of this interview explains why the concept of "intellectual" property is illegitimate and impedes humanity's progress. [Previous episode: KOL423 | Haman Nature Ep. 1: Getting Argumentative.]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vpTQHLw_kc
Update: See the response/commentary video:
https://youtu.be/k23t_8cUSmA?si=ImRcLsE7YB-dKWBj
00:00 – Intro
01:15 – Introducing two amazing books: Stephan's Against Intellectual Property and Against Intellectual Monopoly by Boldrin and Levine. Then Stephan touches on many aspects of the philosophical and consequential aspects of intellectual property laws. The dude goes all over the place! There's no stopping him! He knows so much!
26:38 -- Outro
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 424.
This is my appearance on Robert Breedlove’s What Is Money podcast (WiM430; Youtube channel; recorded Feb. 2, 2024; released Feb. 15, 2024). This one is independent of the “Stephan Kinsella Series” as it is about my own new book, instead of focusing on Hoppe's work.
Episode Summary: Stephan Kinsella joins me to discuss his book, Legal Foundations of a Free Society. We talk about the concept of self-ownership, the classification of rights, the significance of contracts, and the state monopoly.
// OUTLINE //
00:00:00 - Coming up
00:00:21 - Intro
00:01:54 - Helping Lightning Startups with In Wolf's Clothing
00:02:41 - Introducing Stephan Kinsella
00:03:39 - The Concept of Self-Ownership
00:07:45 - Classification of Rights
00:10:25 - Defining Liberty
00:13:18 - The Non-Aggression Axiom
00:16:23 - Understanding the Nuances of Intellectual Property Rights
00:22:14 - The Right to Exclude
00:26:00 - The Rules of Ownership
00:30:21 - Finding Objective Link to Prevent Conflict
00:33:22 - The Right to Self-Ownership
00:38:50 - Transformation of Libertinism
00:42:05 - Run Your Business from Anywhere with NetSuite
00:43:10 - Secure Your Bitcoin Stash with the iCoin Hardware Wallet
00:44:20 - The Right to Self-Defense
00:47:00 - Self-Ownership and Slavery
00:49:29 - Violation of Contracts
00:54:47 - Contract: Independent Title Transfer
00:56:51 - Terms of the Contract
01:02:11 - Loan and Repayment
01:06:00 - Enhance Your Brain Power with Mind Lab Pro
01:07:06 - Take Control of Your Healthcare with CrowdHealth
01:08:13 - Purpose of Political System
01:15:01 - The State Monopoly
01:20:30 - Where to Find Stephan on the Internet
Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 423.
My appearance as the first guess on Adam Haman's new podcast and Youtube channel, Haman Nature (Haman Nature substack).
As I noted in the initial discussion, this is the fourth or fifth podcast for which I was the first guest, the others being KOL374 | The Intellectual Contributions of Hans-Hermann Hoppe: The Great Fiction Podcast Ep. 1, KOL078 | Lions of Liberty Podcast Inaugural Episode: Intellectual Property, KOL244 | “YOUR WELCOME” with Michael Malice Ep. 001: Intellectual Property, Prostate Cancer, and KOL347 | This Time I’m Curious Ep. 1: The Libertarian Movement, AI Rights, UFOs, Music, Movies, Alcohol.
Shownotes:
Adam and Stephen discuss argumentation ethics which of course means they also talk about museums. Part 1 of a 2 episode interview.
https://youtu.be/00MQjVoHgYI?si=yGoO7GfLW1EFx2X6
Time marks:
00:00 – Intro
2:50 – Remembering PorcFest 2023 and fun with the creature from Bretton Woods.
5:52 – Introducing Stephan's new book: Legal Foundations of a Free Society.
7:00 – Libertarianism in America, then and now.
9:35 – With the change in the way we consume information, is intellectualism dead?
13:58 – The origins of this book: activism vs. preaching to the remnant. The value of engaging these ideas deeply to maximize credibility and effectiveness.
18:40 – From Marx to Rothbard: People who care about ideas are reachable and teachable.
20:17 – Exploring argumentation ethics. To understand liberty, we must understand property.
29:13 – Oh crap! Does Elon Musk own us?
29:31 – Back to argumentation ethics. Is v. ought. Natural order arguments.
35:31 -- A very brief discussion of Michael Huemer and intuitionism.
37:23 -- Five blind men describing an elephant - all roads lead to liberty.
40:30 -- Outro
Pix of Adam, me and others at Bretton Woods at PorcFest 2023...
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