Labeled: The Stories, Rumors & Legends of Tooth & Nail Records

Garrett Russell of Silent Planet joins us today to tell the story of their terrible Wyoming van accident, how it has impacted his thinking and and how his spiritual beliefs have continued to change and evolve. All leading to the development of their new album SUPERBLOOM which releases November 3. Several tracks are out already and becoming some of their biggest songs to date. We also discuss the nature of being a heavy band in its 2nd decade.

Chris Conley is nothing if not original. His ability and willingness to listen to and follow an inner voice led him to an early arrival into the all-ages music scene with great influence. Saves The Day continued to evolve musically and did not get stuck in a certain sound even though commercial success would have wanted just that. After helping set the tone for the scene and being signed to a major label (Dreamworks), Saves The Day delivered their album, In Reverie, which was another evolution of direction & departure from what the radio or even their fans were expecting. This lead to them being quickly abandoned by the label. Nonetheless, it’s Chris’ and my favorite album of theirs. We discuss this and much more including some close ties to my band, so please enjoy this conversation with Chris Conley.

Silverstein is in the club of bands that are true workhorses - continuously active year after year while racking up new achievements. They seem to benefit greatly from being able to self-manage, adapt, engage in long range decision making, while always trying new things. They have played over 2500 shows and have over a million monthly listeners on Spotify. In this conversation with lead singer Shane Told, we cover the Canadian local scene that they come from, getting on and off Victory Records, and many other reflections from the last 20 years. Shane also has a great podcast of his own, Lead Singer Syndrome, so check that out too.

Today we have a convo with Chad Gardner of Kings Kaleidoscope. What's most intriguing about Chad is that he is an incredibly efficient, high-level, high-energy problem solver. He fits a pattern that we see over and over again in this world of kids who come from families with engineering and technical talent and use this to power high level creativity and art. chad's ability to lead creative teams and react and improvise is what leads to the aesthetic and musical excellence that Kings Kaleidoscope is known for. They are also known for having a rebellious spirit from within the Christian music and worship worlds, pushing boundaries, and an extremely DIY approach to everything. They have a new self-titled album out today, go listen on Spotify, and also a full US tour starting this week, go to https://kampkaleidoscope.com/ to find your city and get tickets. Listen to the new album https://ffm.to/kings-kaleidoscope.NQD

Reese Roper is simply a legend. Five Iron Frenzy (FIF) was one of the first Christian bands truly existing in both the Christian and mainstream space. In the late 90s during the ska explosion, they achieved real commercial success, made a bold choice to stay on a small independent label, and were delivering absolutely scorching lyrics that were full of questions and critique - lyrics that challenged the existing cultural structures. Packaging those lyrics in the ska-punk package was a perfect move that paid off deeply to their fan base. FIF is also one of those bands that pioneered and cultivated their followers into super fans by delivering on multiple layers of depth across time and staying true to their principles. They are heroes of the scene and certainly paved the way for the next generation. They are now releasing an incredibly cool vinyl box set of all their music. You gotta check it out and the promotional video for it. I’ll link it in the notes because it delivers the perfect amount of silliness and humor that you’d expect from FIF. I thought this would be a great chance to talk to Reese and get his reflections on some of the special things they have accomplished plus some of the challenges. Link to the FIF boxset promotional video

JT Woodruff is one of the most intentional and efficient leaders and operators in the history of the scene. His band Hawthorne Heights has had absolutely huge ups and downs. Ups like their first 2 records going gold and creating one of the most iconic emo songs ever, Ohio Is For Lovers, which has almost 100 million Spotify plays. The downs include a lengthy, costly lawsuit with their label as well as the death of a best friend and bandmate, Casey Calvert, in 2007. Hawthorne Heights has handled their career incredibly well, racking up over 20 years of successful continuous activity while continuing to innovate, adapt, and grow as people and as a band. JT is one of the most principled people i know, and his values and principles have guided him well across the spectrum from the smallest details of being punk and DIY to large scale business moves like creating the ...Is For Lovers Festival which is becoming wildly successful.

Mayday Parade is an incredibly well-balanced group of guys. Balanced in a way that equates to functioning well as a healthy team in a high output, low drama, great to be around way. Mayday has been able to remain extremely hard-working and consistent for over 15 years in a landscape full of ups & downs and unhealthiness. They have achieved long-term success and have helped write the map on how things are done properly in this scene. Most importantly, they have built up and now benefit from an unimaginably dedicated and supportive fanbase. Join me as I catch up with Derek Sanders and discuss all of this plus much more!

Jason Dunn started Hawk Nelson in 2000 with his pals northeast of Ontario where they were like thousands of other aspiring garage bands who just loved to make noise until a connection with Trevor McNevan towed them in to ride the wave of pop punk right into the height of Tooth & Nail's dominance. In the decade that followed they enjoyed great success, became a business with a full team and commercial momentum of their own until the commercial trends began to shift leaving Jason to feel an internal dissonance that he didn't know how to resolve...

The mind of Brandon Ebel is quite a unique thing. He has an ability to rapidly shift his perspectives to analyze things at multiple levels, and has a strong bias toward action and a incredible eye for talent of all kinds. He seems to be all over the place but a better description might be that he has a laser focus and intensity that is consistent on a different horizon that perhaps only he understands. His special abilities to adapt and find consistency in extremely dynamic environments like the music industry have had a profound influence on many people over many years and seems very likely to continue.

The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus hit the national stage right in the pocket of time where the mainstream was taking notice of what our scene was up to. This was partially due to the unique character of Ronnie Winter, who was able to break in and ride that wave and create opportunity for himself in a way that maybe only he could. Their debut album “Don’t You Fake It” released in the summer of 2006 on Virgin Records and was certified gold by November of that same year. That meteoric rise brought along with it all that you could imagine of both positive and negative experiences. In this conversation, Ronnie does a great job of both seeing all the forces at play and owning his own part in it all. Stream The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus on Spotify Get your tickets to any of the upcoming Is For Lovers Fests! Lake Tahoe - June 24th Colorado - July 22nd OBX - July 29th Iowa - August 19th and 20th Ohio - September 9th Tennessee - September 10th Massachusetts - September 17th Join the Labeled Podcast Facebook Community Follow Labeled Universe on Instagram and Facebook

Trey Celaya has traveled an interesting path to find himself in the unique position of being a member of 2 metal-core bands that are both in their stride. He is the drummer of Fit For A King and he is also one of the primary writers and guitarist/producer of Invent Animate, whose newest album Heavener is enjoying break-out success. This conversation explores some of the deeper parts of where his music and creativity live in the musical sphere and how this influences his process. Follow Invent Animate on Spotify Join the Labeled Facebook group!

For Today is a particularly interesting band because they were one of the most outspoken Christian bands ever, but, instead of trying to carefully walk the line between Christian and secular, they just went hard musically AND lyrically. They were able to penetrate deeply into the secular market finding great success in many opportunities like Warped Tour. They were able to achieve longevity, earn a decent living and create brutal music that is still popular and relevant today. Join the Labeled Facebook Group If you need a screen printer, Ryan's brother Brandon, owns a screen printing shop in Cincinnati, Ohio called Independent Print Shop.

Sent By Ravens lived together in a trailer in South Carolina and built a reputation for a killer live show. They got signed to Tooth & Nail and headed straight to Seattle to record their debut album with Aaron Sprinkle. That record released in 2010 with a swan song follow-up album in 2012. Although their time in the scene was short, they left a real mark with genuine music that still connects with many people today

Capital Lights came along in the peak of Tooth & Nail’s power and influence. Oddly, in this period there there are many bands who seemed to have everything going for them and were musically outstanding, yet their full potential was never realized. Bryson Phillips is a a truly gifted singer and songwriter that has been praised by both Brandon Ebel & Aaron Sprinkle over the years. I have had no personal experience with him though, so I really enjoyed getting to hear his perspective of the time he spent in the scene. I’m sure you will too!  Capital Lights on Spotify Listen to His Favorite Christmas Story

Special drop here!. Matt and Devin got the chance to preview the 2023 Furnace Fest lineup and have Chad Johnson and Johnny Grimes join the show so we could all react to it together. Emery is not playing this year, but we love the fest and we love Chad and Johnny and just like talking about all these bands, the history of the scene and fest and the future of it all. Grab your tickets at: https://www.furnacefest.us/

Matt Baird of Spoken has been walking the line between club shows and church shows since the late 90's. He’s seen it all and remained steady with both his interests and convictions since day one. I have a ton of respect for creators that can find a way to do what they love long-term, but it’s quite rare. Over the years. I’ve met so many Spoken fans that tell me how much and why they love Spoken. Despite having very similar journeys, i have spent very little time around Matt Baird and Spoken. It has been over a decade since I’ve seen them and was really glad to have the chance for this exchange with Matt. Join the Labeled Podcast FB Community

Josh Porter is one of the most interesting frontmen from our scene and is of a particular type whose spirit of rebellion resonates across many mediums, one of which being Showbread’s music. Their legendary set at Furnace Fest last year seemed to be a testament to how deeply connected their fans were. This podcast spends a lot of time analyzing the musical, relational and professional choices that bands make. We are often asked why we don’t get into people’s faith more on the podcast, given that it’s such a central theme. Certain people just have a more inherent energy toward the spiritual things, and Josh Porter is one of those people. In this case, he has a new book called Death To Deconstruction, and it seemed like an ideal opportunity to give more perspective into how Josh’s mind works.

Fit For a King is one of the most successful bands in the modern era of Solid State Records since their signing in 2012. They have worked incredibly hard to build the band’s following in both the physical & digital realms. They come from a long history of shared values & sounds with other Solid State bands and have integrated well into the larger metalcore scene. They continue to build a presence in the even wider space of metal in the digital space. Ryan Kirby is the lead vocalist, lyric writer and co-manager of the band, and I think you will find this conversation to an illuminating perspective into his mindset and why it all works so well

James Johnson of COTA and Ryan Loerke of SAW join the show to discuss and give perspective on a pocket of talent in the western Canadian music scene that made its way into the Tooth & Nail/Solid State culture. Jimmy Ryan and Chad Johnson recruited these bands who both had exciting but short careers near the peak of the label’s success. In this episode we cover the scene they came from, how their careers unfolded and what ended them. James and Ryan are now launching a new band, In The Arena, along with SAW member Jason Ciolli, and COTA members Garrett Packer and Nik Wagener. They have new music releasing this week that you can find through the links below. Listen/watch In The Arena's first song! https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/inthearena/destroy-disavow https://youtu.be/BaH0WfhfRMM

If you have been paying any attention to Tooth & Nail over the last several years, you can tell that they have a special regard for Tyson Motsenbocker. Tyson seems to always have been able to make great connections with other artists with both his personality and his songwriting. He’s great as a solo performer and on another level when he has a full band. I always enjoy hanging with him. I do love his new record, Milk Teeth, and we start this episode with an amazing story that caused us to postpone the original recording of this episode. Join the Labeled Facebook Group!