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The Lausanne Movement podcast brings you insights from a global community of Christian influencers to help advance the gospel, foster thriving churches, nurture Christlike leaders, and catalyse kingdom impact across all spheres of society.
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Have we grown too familiar with the wonder of Christmas?
In this Advent conversation, Jason Watson is joined by theologian, author, and apologist Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing to explore why the incarnation is not only wondrous but reasonable—and why Christmas remains one of the church’s greatest evangelistic opportunities. From Mary’s courageous “yes” to the credibility of miracles and the cultural openness of Advent, this episode invites leaders and believers to rediscover the depth, wonder, and missional power of Christmas.
Key Takeaways
The Christmas story invites honest questions and skepticism rather than suppressing them
The incarnation is presented in Scripture as extraordinary—but grounded in evidence and eyewitness testimony
Mary’s voice in Luke’s Gospel reveals agency, consent, and profound theological insight
Early Christians reframed—not compromised—culture to proclaim Christ as the Light of the World
Advent creates unique spiritual openness marked by longing, memory, and reflection
Christmas is not just a celebration—it’s a strategic moment for gospel proclamation
Preachers and leaders are called to recover awe, not sentimentality, in telling the Christmas story
If this episode encouraged you, subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave a review, and share it with a pastor, leader, or friend preparing for Advent. Consider how you might intentionally use the Christmas season this year to invite others to encounter Jesus.
Links & Resources
Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing – Website: https://www.amyorr-ewing.com/
Advocate Collective: https://www.advocate-collective.org/
Book: Mary’s Voice: Advent Reflections to Rediscover the Wonder of Christmas - https://a.co/d/detPL9U
YouTube: Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing (apologetics resources, including an 8-part series on God and suffering) - https://www.youtube.com/@amyorr-ewing
Upcoming Book (Pre-order): Forgiveness: Reclaiming Its Power in a Culture of Outrage and Fear (releasing 2026) - https://a.co/d/g0Y4maN
Guest Bio:
Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing is an international author, speaker, and theologian who addresses the deep questions of our day with meaningful answers found in the Christian Faith. Travelling internationally, Amy is a regular speaker across university campuses, businesses, parliaments, churches, and conferences as well as on TV, radio, and podcasts. She is the author of multiple books, including ‘Where is God in All the Suffering?’ (runner-up Michael Ramsay Prize, 2023), bestselling ‘Why Trust the Bible?’ and ‘Mary’s Voice: Advent Reflections to Contemplate the Coming of Christ.’
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Dan Sered, Chief Operating Officer of Jews for Jesus and Lausanne Catalyst for Jewish Evangelism, shares his remarkable journey from a secular Jewish home in Israel to discovering Jesus as Messiah while studying in New York City. Jason and Dan explore the meaning of Messianic Jewish identity, how the gospel can be shared in culturally meaningful ways with Jewish people, and why peacemaking—not political partisanship—is the calling of every follower of Jesus.
Dan also offers profound reflections on the Israel–Palestine conflict, the Church’s responsibility during times of polarization, and how Jewish and Gentile believers can together bear witness to the hope of the gospel.
🔑 Main Points — Key Takeaways
Dan’s Journey to Faith: How discovering Yeshua (Jesus) through Old Testament prophecies transformed his life, calling, and understanding of Jewish identity.
Messianic Identity Explained: The difference between Jewish ethnicity and Judaism as a religion, and why following Jesus does not erase Jewish identity.
Contextualized Evangelism: Why Jews for Jesus prioritizes cultural understanding, deep relationships, and addressing the felt needs of each community they serve.
Discipleship Begins Before Belief: Dan emphasizes that discipleship starts with presence, hospitality, and community—not after someone says “yes” to Jesus.
What Messianic Jews Offer the Global Church: Insight into the Jewish roots of Christian faith, the “one new humanity,” and a renewed passion for evangelism.
Responding to the Israel–Palestine Conflict: Dan urges Christians not to pick political sides but to embody Jesus’ way of peacemaking, compassion, and prayer for all who suffer—Israelis and Palestinians alike.
Hope Amid Crisis: Despite devastation following October 7th, Dan shares surprising signs of gospel openness and why the Church must pray for salvation among both Jewish and Palestinian communities.
👉 Call to Action
If this episode encouraged or challenged you, please follow the show, leave a review, and share this conversation with someone interested in global mission, Jewish–Christian dialogue, or peacemaking.
🎧 Lausanne Movement Podcast Archive – Related Episodes
1. The Ministry of Reconciliation: Bridging Divides between Israelis and Palestinians — Salim Munayer
👉 https://lausanne.org/podcast/the-ministry-of-reconciliation-bridging-divides-between-israelis-and-palestinians-with-salim-munayer
2. Arab Women Transforming Theological Education — Grace Al-Zoughbi Arteen
👉 https://lausanne.org/podcast/arab-women-transforming-theological-education-with-grace-al-zoughbi-arteen
3. The Art of Preaching in Times of Crisis — Anne Zaki
👉 https://lausanne.org/podcast/the-art-of-preaching-in-times-of-crisis-anne-zaki-on-sharing-the-hope-of-christ-when-it-matters-most
🔗 Links & Resources
Jews for Jesus- https://jewsforjesus.org
Lausanne Jewish Evangelism Network (LCJE) - https://www.lcje.net/
Lausanne Movement – Jewish Evangelism Issue Network - https://lausanne.org/network/jewish-evangelism
Articles by Dan Sered on Jewish Festivals
https://lausanne.org/about/blog/understanding-your-jewish-neighbour-yom-kippur
http://lausanne.org/about/blog/understanding-your-jewish-neighbour-rosh-hashanah
Dan Sered Bio:
Born in Israel and raised in a secular Jewish home, Dan Sered came to faith in Jesus as a university student in the U.S. He and his wife Dinah joined Jews for Jesus and later returned to Israel to serve in ministry. Dan now serves as COO and Global Director of Jews for Jesus and is president of the Lausanne Consultation on Jewish Evangelism.
Everyone says Gen Z is walking away from church. But growing research tells a very different story. Today’s teenagers are spiritually curious, surprisingly open, and eager for authentic relationships. The question is: are we ready to reach them?
📘 Episode Summary
In this inspiring and deeply practical conversation, youth ministry leader and evangelist Jasper Rutherford shares why Gen Z is being described as The Open Generation and what this means for churches, pastors, and ministry leaders today. Drawing on his personal story of encountering Jesus amid violence, fatherlessness, and brokenness in Northern Ireland—and from 20 years of youth ministry and research across Europe—Jasper explains why young people today are remarkably open to faith, and how the church can meet them with authenticity, genuine relationships, and hope.
🔑 Main Points & Takeaways
Gen Z is open to faith. Jasper unpacks Barna’s research on The Open Generation and why young people today are spiritually curious and receptive.
Programs don’t reach youth—relationships do. Simple, authentic, consistent presence is more powerful than production or hype.
Youth won’t just “walk in” anymore. Churches must go where young people are: schools, sports fields, community spaces, and relational environments.
Don’t wait for crowds—start with two or three. Faithfulness with a few young people can spark multiplication.
Discipleship must be lived, not lectured. Young people thrive when they are known, included, prayed for, and given real ways to serve.
The church must rethink Sunday-centric models. Creating welcoming, relational environments beyond Sunday services is essential for new generations.
God is already moving. Jasper shares stories of young people encountering Jesus unexpectedly, from YouTube videos to worship nights.
🙌 Call to Action
If this conversation encouraged you, share it with a pastor, parent, or youth leader who cares about reaching the next generation.
Subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave a rating or review, and explore more global mission resources at lausanne.org.
🎙 Related Episodes — Lausanne Movement Podcast Archive
These episodes pair beautifully with today’s conversation on Gen Z and youth discipleship:
Engaging & Mobilizing Gen Z for Christ — with Jordan Whitmer
https://lausanne.org/podcast/engaging-mobilising-gen-z-for-christ-with-jordan-whitmer
Discipling Digital Natives: Gen Z, Social Media & the Gospel — with Lucas Pegoraro
https://lausanne.org/podcast/discipling-digital-natives-lucas-pegoraro-on-gen-z-social-media-and-the-gospel
Bold Faith & Creative Evangelism: Reaching the Next Generation — with Luke Greenwood (Steiger International)
https://lausanne.org/podcast/bold-faith-creative-evangelism-steigers-luke-greenwood-on-reaching-the-next-generation-in-todays-global-youth-culture
🔗 Links & Resources Mentioned
Christ in Youth (CIY Europe) — Youth ministry, research & resources: https://ciy.eu
Barna Group: The Open Generation Report - https://www.barna.com/the-open-generation/
Finding Faith in Ireland (Barna + CIY research) - https://www.ciy.eu/assets/files/resources/finding_faith_in_ireland.pdf
Jasper’s Email: jasper.rutherford@ciy.com
What does it look like to plant and renew churches in one of the most atheistic regions of the world? And how can relational mission bring new life to the church in Europe?
In this episode, Jason Watson sits down with Oliver Ahlfeld, head of Church Planting and Revitalization for the Gnadauer Verband, Germany’s largest evangelical movement. Together, they explore how the gospel is taking root in secular spaces, what’s working in church planting across Europe, and how a relational lifestyle of faith is essential for revitalizing the church today.
Oliver shares personal stories of transformation, practical lessons from revitalized congregations, and a hopeful vision for awakening in Germany and beyond.
🔑 Key Takeaways:
Relational mission is the key challenge and opportunity — discipleship begins with open homes and open hearts.
Church planting in secular spaces requires contextual creativity, from coffeehouse churches to “messy church” family gatherings.
Revitalization starts small — even “five old ladies praying” can spark renewal.
Collaboration across traditions matters — Pentecostals, pietists, and free churches are learning from one another through the M4 network.
Simplify discipleship — cut fruitless programs and focus on relationships that bear gospel fruit.
Hope for Europe — though traditional structures are declining, God is still at work awakening His church in Germany.
🎧 Related Episodes:
Revival & Renewal: Seeking Awakening Among Europe’s Younger Generations with Sarah Breuel - https://lausanne.org/podcast/revival-renewal-seeking-awakening-among-europes-younger-generations-with-sarah-breuel
Explore how God is stirring revival among the next generation in Europe and what it means to pursue prayerful renewal in a post-Christian context.
**Pioneer Church Planting: Establishing Churches on the Frontlines (and Why Discipleship is the Ultimate Goal) with Ron Anderson -** https://lausanne.org/podcast/pioneer-church-planting-establishing-churches-on-the-frontlines-and-why-discipleship-is-the-ultimate-goal-with-ron-anderson
Learn from pioneering church planters in Spain about long-term mission, discipleship, and leadership in secular societies.
**Planting Churches, Transforming Cities with Guna Raman -** https://lausanne.org/podcast/planting-churches-transforming-cities-with-guna-raman
Discover how church-planting movements in Asia’s major cities are transforming culture and equipping leaders for gospel impact in secular and urban environments.
📚 Links & Resources:
Gnadauer Verband (Gnadauer Movement): https://www.gnadauer.de
M4 Europe Church Planting Network: https://m4europe.com
Joel Comiskey Group Resources on Cell Churches: https://joelcomiskeygroup.com
Lausanne Movement Podcast: https://lausanne.org/podcast
Guest Bio:
Oliver Ahlfeld (born 1968) currently serves as Head of the Division for Church-Planting and Revitalisation at the Evangelischer Gnadauer Gemeinschaftsverband e.V. (Gnadauer Verband) where he coaches teams in urban and rural Germany in launching new faith communities and renewing existing congregations. His vocational journey—from plasterer, driver and welder, to youth-worker, teacher of religion and social-pedagogue—has given him a robust, cross-vocational insight into church-planting praxis. Since February 2020 he has been steering the movement of church-plants and revitalisation efforts in Saxony-Anhalt and beyond, helping leaders move from vision to actionable mission and vibrant community.
What does it mean to follow Jesus in a city famous for witchcraft? Pastor Steven and Sarah White share how their family and church bring the light of Christ into the heart of Salem, Massachusetts—especially during Halloween, when the streets overflow with spiritual seekers and darkness feels most tangible.
✨ Summary
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson sits down with Pastor Steven and Sarah White to explore what faithful discipleship looks like in one of America’s most spiritually charged cities. From prayer walks through the Satanic Temple to welcoming thousands of visitors during Halloween, the Whites describe how God is using gentle presence, prayer, and joy to advance the gospel in Salem. They also open up about the importance of rest, marriage, and raising children amid spiritual opposition—and how light truly shines brightest in the dark.
🔑 Main Points
Called to Salem: How God led Steven and Sarah to pastor in the spiritual epicenter of witchcraft.
Faith Over Fear: Learning to live and minister without fear, even in the midst of spiritual warfare.
Halloween Outreach: Why their church turns on every light, welcomes thousands, and embodies Christ’s presence during Halloween.
Power in Prayer: Insights from praying through Salem—including inside the Satanic Temple—and what it reveals about Christ’s authority.
Transformation Story: A moving testimony of a man delivered from witchcraft who gave his life to Jesus and threw his cauldron into the ocean.
Rooted in Christ: How daily rhythms of prayer, Sabbath rest, and Scripture sustain their family and ministry.
Marriage & Mission: How the Whites protect their marriage and nurture joy together in a spiritually heavy environment.
🙏 Call to Action
Pray for the city of Salem this October—that Christ’s light would pierce the darkness and draw many to Himself.
Subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast for more stories of global mission, discipleship, and hope.
Leave a review and share this episode to help others discover how the gospel is advancing in unexpected places.
🔗 Links & Resources
📰 Steven White on Pastoring in a Spiritual Battleground
👥 Guest Bios
Steven White has served as pastor of First Baptist Church of Salem (Massachusetts) since 2021, leading a congregation committed to embodying the gospel in its historic New England context. He holds a Master of Divinity and a Master of Theology in Missiology from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, as well as a degree in Marketing from the University of Tennessee. Steven and his wife, Sarah, have two daughters.
Sarah White has served with the Lausanne Movement since 2014, where she oversees operations and logistics for global gatherings and consultations. Before joining Lausanne, she worked in higher education administration for six years at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, where she also earned her Master of Divinity. She currently resides in Massachusetts with her husband, Steven, and their two daughters.
What if making disciples isn’t about running programs… but sharing your life?
And what if mission doesn’t start with strategy… but with resilient disciples formed through ordinary rhythms of church life?
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Rick Hill unpacks:
✅ How Jesus formed disciples through stages of invitation (“come and see” → “follow me” → “go and make”)
✅ Why life-on-life formation is more powerful than programs
✅ How to build spiritual habits that create self-feeding, resilient believers
✅ Why mission is the natural overflow of discipleship
✅ How Ireland’s spiritual story reveals both the dangers of cultural Christianity and the hope of renewal
✅ What the global church can learn about humility, dependence, and crossing boundaries for the gospel
If you care about discipleship, mission, or the future of the church, this episode is for you.
🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES
Rick Hill’s Book:
📖 Deep Roots of Resilient Disciples (available on Amazon & major retailers)
Connect with Rick:
📝 Blog: https://rickhill.wordpress.com
📱 X / Instagram: @RickHillNI
Presbyterian Church in Ireland – Mission & Church Planting:
🌍 https://www.presbyterianireland.org/Mission
Lausanne Movement:
🌐 https://www.lausanne.org
About Rick Hill
Rick Hill serves as the Mission Development Officer for the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, where he helps plant and revitalize churches, cultivate a missionary posture, develop leaders, and equip communities to engage with the gospel. Based just outside Belfast, Rick is passionate about revitalizing churches and equipping everyday believers to grow as disciples of Jesus and live on mission in a post-Christian culture.
He is the author of Deep Roots of Resilient Disciples, a widely used resource exploring how followers of Jesus can develop a long-haul faith through intentional formation, community, and mission.
Rick has previously served in student and youth ministry, is an elder in his local church, and speaks regularly across Ireland on mission, discipleship, leadership, and church revitalization.
He is married to Sarah, and they have two young boys.
How can we get our people into small groups and involved in the mission of discipleship?
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson speaks with Lindsey Jodts, Groups Pastor at Willow Creek Community Church, about how discipleship flourishes in the context of community. Lindsey shares her journey into ministry, Willow Creek’s evolving small group strategy, and why their vision is “everyone in groups, every group on mission.” This conversation is packed with practical wisdom for churches of every size seeking to form Christlike disciples who live for the sake of others
📌 Main Points
Discipleship Defined – Helping people become their most Christlike selves in their unique God-given identity.
Community Matters – Why discipleship thrives when stories are shared, gifts are called out, and people are empowered.
Willow Creek’s Shift – Moving from an attractional model toward deeper formation and intentional mission.
Three Pathways of Growth – Weekends, Teams, and Groups as Willow’s Discipleship Framework.
The Rooted Experience – Seven rhythms (daily devotion, prayer, worship, generosity, serving, sharing your story, breaking strongholds) anchoring group life.
Every Group on Mission – Small groups discerning their “heart song” and living it out locally and globally.
For Any Church Size – Practical insights for small, medium, and large churches to empower leaders and multiply disciples.
If this conversation encouraged you, share it with your pastor, small group leader, or ministry team. Be sure to subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave us a review, and join us in the vision of disciple-making churches for every people and place.
📚 Links & Resources
RightNow Media – rightnowmedia.org
The Bible Project – bibleproject.com | Bible Project Classroom | Bible Project Podcast
Rooted Network – https://www.experiencerooted.com/
Books Mentioned:
How to Ask Great Questions by Karen Lee-Thorp
Falling Upward by Richard Rohr
Guest Bio:
Lindsey Jodts is the Groups and Compassion & Justice Pastor at Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Illinois. She holds a Master of Leadership in Ministry from Judson University and has years of experience leading women’s communities, young adult ministries, and discipleship initiatives. Lindsey is a gifted teacher and communicator, known for helping people grow in authentic faith through formative experiences and biblical community.
Is ministry destined to be lonely? Jason Ballard offers a hopeful vision for pastors and ministry leaders — one rooted in deep friendship, shared burdens, and collaboration between local churches and parachurch ministries.
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Ballard — lead pastor of The Way Church in Vancouver and executive director of The Pastorate — reflects on the challenges and joys of pastoral leadership. Drawing from his own journey in both parachurch and local church ministry, Jason explores how friendships sustain pastors, how parachurch leaders can walk alongside churches, and why flourishing relationships are essential for the witness of the gospel and the advance of God’s global mission.
Main Points
Friendship in Ministry: Why cultivating deep friendships is essential for healthy pastoral leadership.
Pastoral Burdens: Insights into the unique weight pastors carry and how to share it.
Church–Parachurch Dynamics: Practical ways pastors and ministry leaders can support and bless one another.
An Ecology of Relationships: Building diverse friendships inside and outside the church for long-term ministry health.
The Pastorate: Jason’s vision for equipping pastors so that healthy leaders can lead healthy churches.
Call to Action
If this conversation encouraged you, subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave us a review, and share this episode with your pastor or a ministry leader. Together, let’s strengthen the bonds of friendship in God’s mission.
Links & Resources
The Pastorate: https://www.thepastorate.ca/
The Pastorate Podcast: https://www.thepastorate.ca/podcast (available wherever you listen)
The Way Church Vancouver: thewaychurch.ca
Guest Bio
Jason Ballard is Lead Pastor of The Way Church Vancouver, a community dedicated to “joining Jesus in the restoration of all things” in Vancouver and beyond. He also serves as Executive Director of The Pastorate (formerly the Canadian Church Leaders Network), where he hosts The Pastorate Podcast—connecting with pastors across Canada to strengthen their heart, vision, and resilience. Jason is passionate about making space for doubt and honest exploration of faith, and helping people grow as disciples of Jesus. He lives in Vancouver with his wife Rachael and their three children, Hudson, Mary, and Millie.
What if the true measure of ministry isn’t size or success—but simple faithfulness to Jesus?
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Daniel Im—author, pastor, and disciple-maker—shares his powerful journey from disillusionment in ministry to a renewed vision for the local church. He opens up about his own season of pain and healing, challenges traditional church growth models, and invites us to embrace the call of making disciples who make disciples. This conversation is both deeply pastoral and profoundly practical for anyone passionate about the Great Commission.
Main Points
Faithfulness Over Greatness – Why doing things for a great God matters more than striving for great things.
Healing from Disillusionment – Daniel’s 14-year journey of pain, surrender, and renewed calling.
Rethinking Church Growth – Moving beyond numbers and attractional models to Spirit-led ministry.
A Framework for Discipleship – Four simple practices: gather, grow, give, and go together.
The Lausanne Vision – How disciple-making churches can awaken cities and nations to King Jesus.
Call to Action
If this conversation encouraged you, take a moment to subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with someone passionate about discipleship and the global church.
Links & Resources
Daniel Im’s website: danielim.com
The Discipleship Opportunity by Daniel Im: https://www.amazon.com/Discipleship-Opportunity-Leading-Great-Commission-Post-Everything/dp/1641587490
No Silver Bullets by Daniel Im: https://www.amazon.com/No-Silver-Bullets-Transform-Ministry/dp/1433651548
Guest Bio
Daniel Im is the Lead Pastor of Beulah Alliance Church in Edmonton, Alberta, a Bible teacher on 100 Huntley Street, and the author of several books including The Discipleship Opportunity: Leading a Great-Commission Church in a Post-Everything World, No Silver Bullets, Planting Missional Churches, and You Are What You Do. He has served in churches ranging from 100 to 50,000 people across Canada, Korea, and the U.S., and is currently pursuing a Doctor of Ministry in Spiritual Formation and Relational Neuroscience from Western Theological Seminary. Daniel has co-hosted podcasts with over 3 million downloads and now co-hosts the IMbetween Podcast with his wife, Christina, equipping couples to build marriages and families they love. Married since 2006, Daniel and Christina have three children and speak together at FamilyLife Canada’s Weekend Getaway Marriage Conference.
Imagine the gospel in every heart language through digital storytelling. Discover how projects like The Chosen illustrate the power of media, collaboration, and creativity in advancing global mission.
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson sits down with Stan Jantz, Global Ambassador for the Come and See Foundation, the organization behind The Chosen. Together, they explore how digital media can serve as a powerful tool for mission, the role of storytelling in reaching across cultures, and the global impact of translating The Chosen into 600 languages. Stan also shares his personal mission of being “an influence for the Lord” and how collaboration can accelerate the Great Commission.
Main Points:
Digital media as the third great shift in mission history (after Roman roads and the printing press).
The vision of The Chosen: reaching one billion people in their heart language through translation into 600+ languages.
Why storytelling resonates across cultures and generations — and why Gen Z is drawn to beauty and excellence.
How collaboration with ministries like Alpha, Cru, and Prison Fellowship multiplies impact.
Stan’s life mission: being “an influence for the Lord” through integrity, humility, and generosity.
Call to Action:
If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave us a review, and share this conversation with a friend who is passionate about mission in the digital age. For more resources, visit lausanne.org.
Links & Resources:
Come and See Foundation - https://www.comeandseefoundation.org/
The Chosen App - https://www.thechosen.tv/en-us
True Story by James Choung - https://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Christianity-Worth-Believing/dp/0830836098
The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God by Justin Brierley - https://www.amazon.com/Surprising-Rebirth-Belief-God-Christianity/dp/1496466772
🔥 What kind of church will shape Africa in 2060? According to Pastor Pascal Ndagijimana, it starts with indigenous disciple-makers who multiply from the ground up.
🎧 Episode Summary
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Pastor Pascal Ndagijimana shares how God transformed his life—from homelessness in Kigali to becoming a movement leader equipping disciple-makers across Sub-Saharan Africa. As founder of the Humira Mission Agency and President of the Evangelical Baptist Churches of Rwanda, Pascal unpacks how deep discipleship, indigenous leadership, and grassroots mission are preparing the church in Africa for a spiritual awakening in the coming decades.
📌 Main Points & Takeaways
• A Story of Redemption and Calling: How Pascal’s encounter with Christ as a street youth changed everything—and led to a lifetime of mission.
• Why He Returned to Rwanda: Despite opportunities in the U.S. after Wheaton, obedience to God’s call drew him back to invest in the African church.
• Rwanda Ministry Context: In Rwanda, people are no longer convinced by words—they want to see lives transformed.
• Humira Mission Agency: A growing network training local leaders as tentmaking disciple-makers in Rwanda, Uganda, DRC, and Mozambique.
• Discipleship Is a Lifestyle: Beyond events or teaching—it’s about relationships, obedience, and slow, intentional investment.
• How to Train Multipliers: Pascal shares how they equip leaders with theological depth, practical skills, and character formation.
• Encouragement for Discouraged Leaders: Disappointment is part of the journey—Jesus experienced it too. Keep going.
🙌 Call to Action
If you were inspired by Pascal’s story and vision, take a moment to pray for the work of the Humira Mission Agency and the future of the African church. Don’t forget to subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with a ministry leader or missionary friend.
🔗 Links & Resources
• 🌍 Humira Mission Agency – https://humuramissionagency.org/
Guest Bio:
Pascal Ndagijimana is a Rwandan church planter, pastor, and movement leader passionate about multiplying indigenous disciple-makers across Africa. He is the founder of Humura Mission Agency (HMA), serves as President of the Evangelical Baptist Churches of Rwanda, and is also the Vice President of Africa Bora Ministries.
Pascal pastors Rugerero Village Baptist Church and is widely known as a Bible teacher and conference speaker. Through HMA, he organizes leadership and discipleship conferences that equip local leaders in Rwanda, Uganda, the DRC, and Mozambique.
A graduate of Wheaton College (M.A. in Evangelism and Leadership), Pascal was also part of the Lausanne Younger Leaders Gathering in 2016 (YLG2016)—an experience that helped shape his vision for grassroots disciple-making movements.
He and his wife, Peace, have two children, and serves full-time with Humura Mission Agency.
🔥 How can churches move beyond simply gathering people to actually making disciples who transform communities?
🎧 Summary
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson talks with Mark Williamson, leader, coach, and pioneer behind One Rock International and Fresh Expressions UK. Mark shares how disciple-making lies at the heart of true church growth, why he believes Fresh Expressions of church are crucial for reaching today’s world, and how raising Christlike leaders fuels Kingdom transformation. Packed with practical examples and spiritual wisdom, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone passionate about seeing the global Church thrive.
💡 Main Points
Why Disciple-Making Matters: Mark explains why many churches miss the mark on making disciples—and how this affects the Church’s mission in the world.
Fresh Expressions of Church: Hear how innovative forms of church like Café Church and Messy Church are reaching people who’d never step into traditional services.
Pioneering vs. Planting: Learn why Fresh Expressions focuses on pioneering new communities shaped by local culture rather than simply replicating existing church models.
Principles for Global Mission: Mark shares key steps for listening to your community, discerning local needs, and launching contextual ministry initiatives.
One Rock International: Discover how Mark’s organization equips leaders through content, coaching, and community to develop Christlike character and impactful leadership skills.
Keys to Discipleship: Mark highlights three essentials for disciple-making: one-on-one relationships, role modeling, and giving people real responsibility.
Encouragement from Hudson Taylor: Be inspired by the reminder that in God’s work, everything moves from impossible, to difficult, to done.
📣 Call to Action
Are you ready to build a disciple-making church and raise leaders who transform communities for Christ? Subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave us a review, and share this episode with your network. Explore more resources on our website to equip your journey in global mission.
🔗 Links & Resources
One Rock International → onerockinternational.com
Developing Christlike leaders through content, coaching, and community.
Fresh Expressions UK → freshexpressions.org.uk
Pioneering new forms of church for those not reached by traditional models.
Messy Church → messychurch.org.uk
Intergenerational, hands-on church for families.
Contact Mark Williamson → mark@onerockinternational.com
Mark Williamson is the co-founder and Executive Director of One Rock International, where he equips emerging Christian leaders through spiritual formation, coaching, and leadership training. He also serves as Chair of the Board for Fresh Expressions UK, helping pioneer new forms of missional church that reach people outside traditional congregations.
A Methodist lay preacher and seasoned leadership trainer, Mark has spent over 20 years mentoring church planters, social entrepreneurs, and ministry pioneers across the globe. He has helped lead innovative faith communities like Sanctuary Westminster in central London, and he regularly writes and teaches on Christlike leadership, disciple-making, and the global mission of the church.
🔥How do we reach the lost generation waiting just beyond the walls of the church, longing for hope they don’t know exists?”
✨ Episode Summary
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Watson sits down with Luke Greenwood, European Director of Steiger International, to unpack what it means to bring bold faith and creative evangelism into the heart of today’s global youth culture. From his journey as a missionary kid in Brazil to leading gospel movements across European cities, Luke shares powerful stories, practical strategies, and a passionate call to reach the next generation who feel distant from traditional church.
✅ Main Points & Key Takeaways
Luke’s Personal Calling: How growing up in a missionary family and discovering a passion for secular youth shaped his mission.
The Global Youth Culture Challenge: Understanding why many young people say, “I’m not religious,” and how that mindset shapes evangelism.
Creative Evangelism Tactics: Innovative ways Steiger uses music, street art, community housing, and public events to open gospel conversations.
Balancing Salt and Light: Luke’s insights on staying holy and distinct while boldly engaging secular spaces.
Practical Steps for Listeners: How to start small—through prayer, listening, and simple outreach initiatives—to reach secular youth in your own city.
Rooted in the Local Church: Why all creative evangelism must stay connected to local congregations for long-term discipleship and impact.
Luke’s Vision: A call to raise 1,000 young missional leaders in five years and establish a mission center in Poland.
📣 Call to Action
👉 Feeling inspired? Share this episode, subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, and leave a review so others can discover practical ways to reach the next generation.
If you’re sensing a call to mission, explore Steiger’s resources-or consider stepping into their mission school for hands-on training!
🔗 Links & Resources
Steiger International Website: www.steiger.org
Steiger Resources Library: steiger.org/resources
Luke Greenwood’s Book: Global Youth Culture – Check it out here
Jesus in the Secular World (Steiger team book)
Street Evangelism Handbook: steiger.org/resources
Bible Studies for the Non-Religious: steiger.org/resources
Is There More? website for seekers: istheremore.info
Steiger Mission School Info: steiger.org/sms
Connect with Luke on Instagram: @lukejgreenwood
Follow Steiger International on Instagram: @steigerinternational
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Guest Bio
Luke Greenwood is Europe Director for Steiger International, author of Global Youth Culture: The Spiritual Hunger of the Largest Unreached Culture Today, and frontman of the evangelistic band The Unrest. Raised as a missionary kid in Brazil, he’s passionate about creative evangelism and training believers to boldly reach secular youth across Europe and beyond.
The global Church is changing—but are our prayers keeping up with its needs?
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Jason Mandryk, editor of Operation World, joins us for a thought-provoking conversation on the role of strategic, Spirit-led intercession in the age of global change. From his personal calling into prayer mobilization to the intersection of data, mission, and worship, Jason helps us reimagine prayer not as an obligation but as a joyful, global act of partnership with God.
We explore current global trends shaping the Church, the challenges of Western influence, and why now more than ever, believers must pray with insight.
🔑 Main Takeaways
Prayer as Calling and Delight
Jason shares how God called him into a unique blend of prayer, research, and mission—and why prayer is meant to be joyful, not burdensome.
The Story and Purpose of Operation World
Learn how this powerful prayer tool was birthed in Southern Africa, and how it continues to mobilize believers to pray with focus for every nation on earth.
Why Data Matters for Intercession
Jason unpacks how information doesn’t replace prayer—it fuels it. When we understand the world, we can pray with greater clarity and compassion.
Global Trends Every Christian Should Watch
From the growth of the Majority World Church to the rise of hyper-politicized Christianity in the West, Jason highlights trends shaping the Church’s effectiveness.
Decolonizing Mission and Sharing Ownership
Jason calls for a shift in how Western churches relate to the rest of the world—not as controllers, but as co-laborers learning from others.
🔗 Links & Resources
🌐 Operation World – operationworld.org
(includes contact form to connect with Jason or get the prayer Zoom link)
📱 Operation World App – Available in app stores, free and updated annually
🔍 International Prayer Connect – ipcprayer.org
A global hub for prayer movements and initiatives
📘 Books & Authors Mentioned
Missions and Money by Dr. Jonathan Bonk
Shaped for Prayer Enjoyment by David Macmillan
Dominion by Tom Holland
Reflections from Dallas Willard and Andrew Murray
📊 Missions Research – justinlong.org - Mission trends and prayer intelligence
🧭 Lausanne’s State of the Great Commission Report - Includes Jason’s paper on Global Aging - https://lausanne.org/report/demographics/global-aging-population
Guest Bio
Jason Mandryk is the author of the 7th edition of Operation World and helps to lead the Operation World team. He has been serving at the convergence point of the mission, research, and prayer movements for most of the last 25 years. Using data and Scripture to mobilize prayer and mission is his passion. A Canadian/UK dual citizen, Jason has an M.A. in Global Christian Studies from Providence Theological Seminary and currently lives in Seoul, South Korea.
The gospel was never meant to silence culture, but to redeem it.
Learn how contextual worship and indigenous art are helping every people group declare the glory of God in their own voice.
In this episode, Jason Watson speaks with Heber Negrão—missionary, scholar, and global voice in ethnodoxology—about how the arts can serve the Church’s mission by connecting the gospel to the cultural heart of every people group. Drawing from years of field experience among indigenous communities in Brazil and global training contexts, Heber unpacks how local art forms can be reclaimed to witness to Christ in ways that are deeply meaningful and biblically faithful.
📌 Main Points & Takeaways
What is Ethnodoxology?
A field of mission that empowers believers to worship and proclaim Christ using their own artistic and cultural expressions.
Worship that Belongs
Imported worship styles often feel disconnected. Heber explains how contextualized worship allows communities to own their praise of God.
Critical Contextualization
Local arts must be evaluated biblically, and Heber shares a practical framework for what to accept, adapt, or transform.
Art as Gospel Communication
In oral cultures, art is often the most effective medium for theology, storytelling, and spiritual formation.
From Decoration to Declaration
The arts aren’t just a supplement to mission—they are a strategy for gospel proclamation and deep discipleship.
If this episode inspired you to rethink the role of culture and creativity in mission, share it with a worship leader, missionary, or artist in your community. Subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast and visit the links below to explore how the arts can serve the Church’s global calling.
📚 Links & Resources
📄 Articles
What is Ethnodoxology?
Ethnodoxology’s Time is Here – Lausanne Global Analysis
The Arts Are Not a Universal Language – Lausanne Global Analysis
Visual Affect as Validation of Truth – Lausanne Global Report
📘 Resources
Ethnodoxology Handbook & Manual
Evangelical Missions Quarterly: Arts in Missions Issue
Guest Bio:
Héber Negrão is a missionary ethnomusicologist serving at the Evangelical Missionary Linguistic Association (Brazil). He is a member of the Global Ethnodoxology Network and the Arts Task Force of the WEA Mission Commission. He has worked with oral Bible translation for six years among indigenous people in northern Brazil.
Héber holds an MA in ethnomusicology and is a PhD candidate in world arts at Dallas International University. He has been involved in the ethnoarts ministry in Brazil since 2006. His passion is to see every person praising God using their own arts in a culturally appropriate way.
In 2016, Héber participated in Lausanne’s Young Leaders Gathering in Jakarta. After that, he joined the Lausanne Communications Team as a volunteer, and in 2020, he joined Lausanne’s staff as online language coordinator.
Héber is married to Sophia, and they have 2 young kids.
How is God moving in East Asia?
📖 Summary:
In this episode of the podcast, Seth Kim, a Lausanne Regional Director for East Asia, shares strategic insights on how churches are reaching their cities, cultures, and nations through innovative mission. From mobilizing youth and developing leaders, to contextualizing the gospel and fostering collaboration, Seth paints a powerful picture of what it looks like to pursue the Great Commission in a rapidly changing region.
🙏 Call to Action:
Be encouraged—and challenged—by how God is moving in East Asia. Subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with a friend or mission leader. Visit lausanne.org to learn how you can partner with the global church in this generation.
📚 Links & Resources
Arise Asia – Official Website - https://www.ariseasia.org/
Lausanne Movement – East Asia - https://lausanne.org/network/east-asia
Lausanne’s State of the Great Commission report - https://lausanne.org/report/east-asia
Guest Bio:
Seth was born in Seoul and lives in Asia and the USA. He has been awarded degrees from the University of Illinois, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. As a pastor, speaker, leadership educator, church planter, mobilizer, and spiritual trainer, Seth is passionate about the next generation, church planting, missions, and leadership to see lives and the world transformed.
He and his wife founded Harvest Mission Community Church (HMCC) in 1996. He is currently the lead pastor of HMCC in Hong Kong. Seth travels extensively working with churches and organizations to train and equip young people to catalyze gospel movements in global cities.
Seth is the co-founder and vice-president of Arise Asia. He is also on leadership teams of Church Planting and Multiplication (CPX), Movement Day, and the NXT Move Global.
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What if the Church’s evangelistic crisis isn’t about culture—but about conviction? And what if the way forward isn’t more methods, but deeper surrender?
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Dr. Desmond Henry, Lausanne catalyst for proclamation evangelism and International Director of the Global Network of Evangelists for Palau, joins us for a compelling conversation on why evangelism often feels sidelined in today’s church—and why it must remain central to God’s mission. He shares insights on the tensions, misunderstandings, and future of evangelism, and challenges ministry leaders to embrace a Spirit-empowered lifestyle of gospel witness.
If this episode challenged and encouraged you, share it with someone who’s passionate about mission and leadership. Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and explore more resources at lausanne.org.
📚 Links & Resources
Palau Association - https://www.palau.org/
Lausanne Global Classroom: Proclamation Evangelism - https://lausanne.org/global-classroom/proclamation-evangelism
Advance Groups (Mentoring Guide for Evangelists) - https://www.advancegroups.org/
Life in 6 Words App - https://li6w.com/
Connect with Desmond Henry - https://www.desmond-henry.com/
Guest Bio:
Desmond Henry is a missional thought-leader, professor of missiology, author, speaker, and practitioner committed to advancing global evangelism. As the International Director of the Global Network of Evangelists for Palau, he leads a global movement to identify, equip, mobilise, and support evangelists in reaching millions with the Gospel. In addition to his main role at Palau, Dr. Henry serves as Chairman of the Conspectus Journal at the South African Theological Seminary; Catalyst for the Lausanne Proclamation Evangelism Network; and Research Fellow for Lausanne Insights on Global Horizons and Trends, contributing to global thought leadership in missiology. Through his leadership at Palau, Lausanne, and beyond, Dr. Henry helps shape the future of gospel outreach strategies, ensuring evangelism remains bold, innovative, and biblically faithful. He is married to Lara, and together they have three daughters: Gabriella, Annabella, and Olivia.
What if Africa’s greatest challenges are also its greatest gospel opportunities? Discover how God is raising up a new generation of leaders in the midst of pressure, persecution, and potential.
📖 Summary:
In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Dr. Stephen Mbogo, Lausanne Regional Director for the English, Portuguese, and Spanish-speaking (EPSA) region, and International Team Leader of African Enterprise, shares how Africa’s youthful population and vibrant church are responding to the call of the Great Commission. From discipling Gen Z leaders to strategic outreach across cities, slums, and conflict zones, Dr. Mbogo casts a powerful vision for Africa’s role in global mission.
🙏 Call to Action:
Inspired by this episode? Subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast and leave a review to help others find it. Visit lausanne.org to learn how to partner with gospel movements across the EPSA region and beyond.
📚 Links & Resources:
• African Enterprise: aeint.org
• Lausanne Movement (EPSA Region): https://lausanne.org/network/epsa
Guest Bio:
Stephen Mbogo has a passion for godly, biblical leadership and a heart to see Africa transformed through the salvation of its people and the sound governance of its leaders. Born in eastern Kenya in 1967, Stephen grew up in a family that followed African traditional religions. He witnessed the transforming power of the gospel in the lives of his parents and grandparents before surrendering his life to Christ in high school.
Stephen has been involved in extensive evangelistic activities, leadership training, and community development in Africa and in other parts of the world, including the Mission Africa outreach project that preceded the Third Lausanne Congress on World Evangelization in Cape Town. He has also served as an associate with the FOCUS/IFES Movement, conducting missions to unreached groups in Kenya, as well as African Enterprise (AE), where he has held various leadership roles. He has also been working with the South Sudanese church since the mid-2000s. Currently as AE’s CEO, Stephen’s vision is to see a prayer breakfast movement started in every country on the African continent and to see the church established in every parliament.
Stephen holds a bachelor degree in business administration from Daystar University, a master’s degree in Christian ministries from Nairobi International School of Theology, and a PhD in intercultural studies from Biola University. He lives in Nairobi with his wife Rosemary and their two children, Victor and Joy. In recognition for their role in missions, Stephen and Rosemary were ordained as ministers by their evangelical denomination in 2001.
What does it look like when a church opens its arms to strangers in crisis? Discover how radical hospitality prepared fertile ground for sharing the gospel with Ukrainian refugees.
📖 Summary:
In this deeply moving episode, Pastor Oliwer Cieslar shares how his church in Poland became a place of refuge and transformation during the Ukrainian war. With no refugee infrastructure in place, the Polish church—and the wider community—mobilized overnight to provide shelter, food, and spiritual care to thousands. Discover how a crisis became a catalyst for gospel hospitality and lasting unity in the body of Christ.
🔑 Main Points:
Crisis Met with Compassion: In the early days of the war, Oliwer’s church of 200 mobilized and organized buses to rescue 650+ refugees, providing shelter and support.
From Short-Term Shelter to Long-Term Integration: As weeks turned into years, the church adapted—offering language classes, job support, and a spiritual home for displaced Ukrainians.
Stories of Salvation and Unity: Oliwer shares powerful stories of Ukrainian refugees finding faith in Christ and being baptized into a new spiritual family.
Lessons for the Global Church: Compassion became a spiritual awakening in a secularizing culture. Oliwer challenges global churches to embrace the power of hospitality.
Guest Bio:
Oliwer Cieślar born in Poland, associate pastor in local church in Opole. Holds degree in Computer Science and Masters at Practical Theology from Glyndwr University. In ministry since 2014, works for online evangelism ministry DeoLink Association. Project manager for The Chosen TV series in Poland. Husband and a father of two daughters.
Is it possible for artificial intelligence to share the gospel—and even lead someone to Christ?
In this thought-provoking episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Chase Cappo joins Jason Watson to explore the emerging world of Christian AI and its potential to revolutionize ministry. Chase shares how technology can serve the church, foster trust, and guide people toward authentic encounters with Jesus. You’ll hear powerful testimonies, hard questions, and hopeful answers as the conversation journeys through faith, tech, and global mission.
🔑 Main Takeaways:
• Christian AI vs. Secular AI: Chase unpacks how AI trained on biblical truth can offer a redemptive alternative to the algorithms shaping culture today.
• The Power of Personalization: AI tools like Faith Assistant can have deeply personal, gospel-centered conversations at scale—often leading people to Jesus.
• Tech That Builds Trust: From anonymous chats to church QR codes, Chase explains how AI lowers barriers and invites spiritual seekers into real community.
• Equipping Ministries with AI: Learn how churches, youth groups, and global missions are using AI to answer questions, disciple leaders, and connect people to local communities.
• Innovation with Integrity: Chase shares the values guiding his work—truth and love, prioritizing the gospel, and staying anchored in the local church.
🔗 Links & Resources:
• 🌐 Faith Assistant – Try it out and see how ministries are integrating AI today - https://faithassistant.com/
• 🔗 GPT - https://huggingface.co/AiForTheChurch/ChristianGPT-base-full-precision/tree/main
• 📱 BibleChat.AI – A free, gospel-centered chat assistant trained on Scripture - https://biblechat.ai/
• 📘 Mission Drift by Peter Greer – The book that challenged Chase to stay rooted in the local church
• 🤝 Gloo – The tech partner bringing these innovations to scale - https://www.gloo.com/
• 🔗 Connect with Chase Cappo on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chasecappo
























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