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Republicans in Congress are suggesting that the FBI should LOCK HER UP Liz Cheney, and Donald Trump thinks that’s a great idea. But can he do that? We’ll discuss. Plus, a Georgia appeals court has disqualified Fulton County DA Fani Willis and her entire office from prosecuting Donald Trump, likely dooming the entire case. And for subscribers, we’ve got a fun tour of defamation trollsuits from one of our favorite Kraken lawyers. Links: GA Court of Appeals Willis Order https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270   Loudermilk Report https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/6/d/6dae7b82-7683-4f56-a177-ba98695e600d/145DD5A70E967DEEC1F511764D3E6FA1.final-interim-report.pdf   Loudermilk Committee Report (October 15, 2024) https://cha.house.gov/2024/10/new-texts-reveal-liz-cheney-communicated-with-cassidy-hutchinson-about-her-select-committee-testimony-without-hutchinson-s-attorney-s-knowledge-despite-cheney-knowing-it-was-unethical   GA Ct Appeals Decision Re Willis https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec1774-027f-4de6-aaf5-fb6c9bb99270    Robinson v. CNN Federal Docket via Court Listener https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nced.214292    Mike Flynn Florida Appeal Dismissed https://2dca.flcourts.gov/content/download/2444599/opinion/Opinion_2024-0278.pdf    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Donald Trump has promised to cancel birthright citizenship on Day one. But can he do that? In a word, no. We have a deep dive on the very clear law of birthright citizenship in this country (and all the ways Trump will try and ignore it). We also break down yesterday’s decision and order from New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan that presidential immunity does not retroactively invalidate Trump’s 34 felony convictions in New York. Links: ABC Bends The Knee https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/abc-bends-the-knee Trump ruling denying immunity NY https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25459328/merchan-immunity-ruling.pdf Trump announcement re birthright citizenship https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-day-one-executive-order-ending-citizenship-for-children-of-illegals-and-outlawing-birth-tourism U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3381955771263111765 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

We talk with TechDirt’s Cathy Gellis, who is going to walk us through the DC Circuit’s opinion banning TikTok. And in the subscriber bonus, we’ll bring you up to speed on Rudy Giuliani’s continuing efforts to dodge justice in multiple courts. Links: TikTok v. Garland (DC Cir.) https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2024/12/24-1113-2088317.pdf   Petition for injunction staying order https://sf16-va.tiktokcdn.com/obj/eden-va2/hkluhazhjeh7jr/2024.12.09%20-%20TTI%20v.%20Garland%20-%20Petitioners'%20Emergency%20Motion%20for%20Injunction(1).pdf   Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act (PAFACA) 15 U.S. Code § 9901 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/9901   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Last night US Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Lopez voided the sale of Infowars to The Onion as part of the Alex Jones Bankruptcy. It sucks a lot. And speaking of sucking, let’s talk about the Impoundment Control Act and How Trump plans to violate it.   Links: ALEX JONES BANKRUPTCY DOCKET https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/   Revised Infowars proposed sale order (REDLINE) https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.975.1.pdf   Trump on impoundment https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-using-impoundment-to-cut-waste-stop-inflation-and-crush-the-deep-state   Train v. City of New York https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/420/35/#42   House Dems Impoundment Explainer https://democrats-budget.house.gov/resources/fact-sheetss/impoundment-explainer   GAO Report on Ukraine Impoundment Violation https://www.gao.gov/products/b-331564    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Trump has nominated Brendan Carr to chair the FCC, calling him a “warrior for Free Speech” who “will end the regulatory onslaught that has been crippling America's Job Creators and Innovators, ​​and ensure that the FCC delivers for rural America." But as tech journalist Karl Bode explains, Carr has threatened to go after media outlets that criticize Trump, and his plans for rural broadband are even worse. And Liz and Andrew break down the issue “scrutiny” in Skrmetti, the SCOTUS case on healthcare for trans kids. Plus, we check in with Rudy Giuliani’s shenanigans in the subscriber bonus.   Links: Skrmetti: It Was THAT Bad https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/skrmetti-it-was-that-bad   Institute for Local Self Reliance https://ilsr.org/   Karl Bode at Techdirt https://www.techdirt.com/user/kbode/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

It’s a roundup of Hunter Biden, Rudy Giuliani, and Infowars news, before a preview of US v. Skrmetti, the challenge to Tennessee’s ban on gender confirming care for minors, which will be argued at the Supreme Court on Wednesday. And for subscribers, we’ll catch up with Dinesh D’Souza, who’s getting sued by a man he falsely accused of being a “ballot mule.”   Links: Elon Musk’s X is stepping into the legal fight over Alex Jones’ Infowars. Experts say it’s unprecedented https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/29/media/alex-jones-elon-musk-x-infowars-accounts/index.html    Freeman v. Giuliani Docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69116157/freeman-v-giuliani/    Hunter Biden Delaware Docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67511701/united-states-v-biden/   Hunter Biden California Docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68072483/united-states-v-biden/    Inside the Collapse of Hunter Biden’s Plea Deal https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/19/us/politics/inside-hunter-biden-plea-deal.html  Tennessee SB 1 - Tennessee Code, Title 68, Chapter 33 https://casetext.com/statute/tennessee-code/title-68-health-safety-and-environmental-protection/health/chapter-33-health-and-welfare-of-minors Skrmetti reply brief (gender affirming care) https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-477/331420/20241107183937931_23-477rbUnitedStates.pdf Danyon Anderson et al., Gender Dysphoria and Its Non-Surgical and Surgical Treatments (2022) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9501960/   In re Vital Pharmaceutical (2023) https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-ban-crt-s-d-flo-for-lau-div/2289548.html   D’Souza Statement https://dineshdsouza.com/statement-on-2000-mules/    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Today, we learned that Special Counsel Jack Smith has moved to dismiss both of the federal cases against Donald Trump; we tell you what that means and what happens next. On the plus side, we learned that the Onion is almost certainly going to get to buy Infowars AND the next Attorney General of the United States won’t be Matt Gaetz. Although it probably will be Pam Bondi. Oh, and the Supreme Court just took up a case on a 100-year-old doctrine as to whether the government can help rural and underserved areas get phone and internet coverage.   Links:   Pam Bondi: Less Terrible Than Matt Gaetz https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/pam-bondi-is-less-terrible-than-matt   No, Elon Musk Isn’t Riding To Alex Jones’s Rescue https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/no-elon-musk-isnt-riding-to-alex/comments   SCOTUS Order in FCC v. Consumers Research https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/112224zr1_7l48.pdf   5th Circuit opinion in FCC v. Consumers Research https://casetext.com/case/consumers-research-v-fed-commcns-commn-4 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Kel McClanahan joins us for part two of the interview, where he tells us how to keep tabs on Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy as they gear up to do for the federal government what Elon did for Twitter. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is not going to jail, Alex Jones continues to be a ghoul, and Rudy Giuliani has found another lawyer to help him humiliate himself in federal court. Links: Rudy Giuliani Can't Go On Trial, He Has An Inauguration To Attend! https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/rudy-giuliani-cant-go-on-trial-he   Roake v. Brumley 5th Circuit denial of stay https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca5.221848/gov.uscourts.ca5.221848.68.2.pdf   Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), 5 U.S.C. Chapter 10 et seq. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/part-I/chapter-10   Kel McClanahan, President Trump’s Cronyism and Excesses Should Prompt Security Clearance Reform https://www.justsecurity.org/63108/president-trumps-cronyism-excesses-prompt-security-clearance-reform/   Kel McClanahan, The Case for Legislative Security Clearance Reform https://www.justsecurity.org/60440/case-legislative-security-clearance-reform/   Kel McClanahan, What Everyone Gets Wrong About Kushner’s Clearance Fiasco https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/01/jared-kushner-clearance-fiasco-217210/   Support and donate to: www.nationalsecuritylaw.org Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Goblinlover Alex Jones is threatening to jail Ben Collins, CEO of the Onion for trying to buy InfoWars. Meanwhile, the bankruptcy trustee is threatening to seek sanctions against Alex Jones’s lawyers for making frivolous arguments and telling half-truths. What’s next for the efforts to find some measure of justice for the Sandy Hook families? Plus, Donald Trump seems poised to hand over the nation’s national security secrets to a bunch of goons who couldn’t get cleared for a job as a mall cop. Can he do that? We welcome back Kel McClanahan of National Security Counselors to answer all of our security clearance-related questions. Links:   Alex Jones Bankruptcy docket (SDTX) https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/   Support and donate to: www.nationalsecuritylaw.org Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

The Onion is buying Infowars! Unless a bankruptcy judge puts the kibosh on the sale. And Rudy Giuliani’s lawyers are pulling the ripcord in the Freeman/Moss case. Also … Attorney General Matt Gaetz? WTF?!?!   Links:   Onion Press Release https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/    Alex Jones Bankruptcy docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/   Giuliani - Caruso Declaration - lawyers withdrawing https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017/gov.uscourts.nysd.626017.110.0.pdf   New York Rules of Professional Conduct https://nysba.org/app/uploads/2024/02/20240226-Rules-of-Professional-Conduct-as-amended-6.10.2022.pdf   Matt Gaetz ethics report https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/us/politics/matt-gaetz-ethics-committee-report.html   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

A week after the election, Trump is already demanding that Congress bend the knee and allow him to staff his administration without bothering to get Senate confirmation. Can he do that? And will the new Senate majority leader let him?   Links:   Musk's X seeks to steer lawsuits to conservative court in Texas https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-seeks-steer-lawsuits-conservative-court-texas-2024-10-17/    Federalist No. 67 (Hamilton) https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/federalist-no-67/   Noel Canning v. NLRB https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=67923386243166640 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Well, it happened. We talk about what the election of Donald Trump means for you, for the country, for this show, and for the efforts to hold Trump accountable for his crimes against the American people. Special Counsel Jack Smith has announced that he intends to “wrap up” his office; we tell you why and what that means. We’ll be here with you, and we’ll always tell you the truth.   Links:   NPR report: Smith To Wind Down https://www.npr.org/2024/11/06/g-s1-33021/trump-trials-jack-smith-election-2024   28 CFR Part 600 (Special Counsel regulations) https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/part-600   Trump v. US (2024) https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/23-939.pdf   24 Op. OLC 222 (2000) - Presidential immunity https://www.justice.gov/file/146241-0/dl?inline Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Joe Dye is back to talk us through how to watch the election returns. How similar are Wisconsin and Iowa? When will we know the results out of Georgia? And what’s up with that Selzer poll? Andrew and Joe break it all down. Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Election litigation is well underway in Pennsylvania, even before election day. The Trump campaign has already racked up a win, since they decided that early voting is … good now? Meanwhile Elon Musk is dodging a civil action by Philadelphia’s DA over his million dollar “lottery,” and Trump filed an absolutely gonzo trollsuit in Texas against CBS.   Links:   Workers Say They Were Tricked and Threatened as Part of Elon Musk’s Get-Out-the-Vote Effort https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-blitz-canvassing-michigan-uhaul/ Lancaster County officials should deliver real answers on voter registration issues — not shut down questions [editorial] https://lancasteronline.com/opinion/editorials/lancaster-county-officials-should-deliver-real-answers-on-voter-registration-issues-not-shut-down-questions/article_6f9b8ae8-9640-11ef-8723-dfe8afbc7b37.html   Fed. R. Crim. Pro. 48 https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_48   Baxter v. Philadelphia Board of Elections (Pa. App. Oct. 30, 2024) https://www.pacourts.us/assets/opinions/Commonwealth/out/1305CD24_10-30-24.pdf?cb=1   Trump v. CBS Texas Consumer Protection Law Complaint https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.396451/gov.uscourts.txnd.396451.1.0.pdf   Krasner v. Attorney General https://casetext.com/case/commonwealth-v-the-attorney-gen-1 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Republicans have discovered ONE WEIRD TRICK to win elections, and it is for the legislatures to steal all the electoral votes. Or if that can’t be arranged, they’d accept an intervention from SCOTUS. We’ll discuss the independent state legislature theory, as well as Trump’s latest filing in the stolen documents appeal.   Links:   Musk Petition https://petition.theamericapac.org/   Pennsylvania v. America PAC complaint https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25255630-philly-v-musk    Pennsylvania SCT appeal (Genser v. Butler County) https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25255962/scotus-24a408-stay-application-pa.pdf   5th Circuit provisional ballots case (RNC v. Wetzel) https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/24/24-60395-CV0.pdf   US v. Trump (11th Circuit appeal) docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68955302/united-states-v-donald-trump/   US v. Trump (SDFL documents case) docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67643393/united-states-v-trump/   28 CFR § 600.1 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.1   Inside the Movement Behind Trump’s Election Lies https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/28/us/politics/inside-the-movement-behind-trumps-election-lies.html Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

What will happen on November 5 if Vice President Harris is narrowly ahead of Trump? Will it look like 2020? Or is it more likely to resemble 2000, with a knock down, drag out fight over every ballot? Liz and Andrew break it down.   Links:   Musk Is Going All In to Elect Trump https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/11/us/politics/elon-musk-donald-trump-pennsylvania.html   Press Release: Benedictine Sisters subject of fraudulent claim https://eriebenedictines.org/news-stories.html/article/2024/10/23/press-release-benedictine-sisters-subject-of-fraudulent-claims     Wand et al., The Butterfly Did It: The Aberrant Vote for Buchanan in Palm Beach County, Florida, American Political Science Review (2001) https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/butterfly-did-it-aberrant-vote-buchanan-palm-beach-county-florida   Bush v. Gore (Supreme Court 2000) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2298973060085224552   Gore v. Harris (FL Supreme Court 2000) https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/fl-supreme-court/1489353.html Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Elon Musk is giving Trump’s campaign $75 million. Plus he’s paying out $1 million per day to “registered voters.” Is that a crime, or just a photo op? Meanwhile in DC, what can we learn from the Special Counsel’s latest filing in the Trump election case? And we answer questions about how to watch early election night returns.   Links: Musk Petition https://petition.theamericapac.org/   US v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?order_by=desc   Elon Musk Veers Into Clearly Illegal Vote Buying by Rick Hasen https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

In this BONUS episode, elections expert Joe Dye returns to tell us what to watch for when the very first returns on Election Day come in at 6 pm Eastern from Indiana and Kentucky. Learn how those deep red states will help us test six different bits of conventional wisdom we’ve all heard from the pundits, like whether Kamala Harris is facing a backlash from college students, or whether she has made inroads with educated white voters & so much more!   Links: The Republican Feelings Industrial Complex https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/bonus-the-republican-feelings-industrial Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Lt. Gov. Mark “Horndog” Robinson is suing CNN and a former porn shop worker named Louis Love Money for $50 million. And Texas’s worst(?) federal judge threatens to tank a Boeing plea deal because the federal monitor might do DEIs. Can’t have the airline pay victims of airline crashes unless the deal is 100 percent woke free! And for subscribers, a deep dive into the latest Trump election interference case foolishness.   Links: Liz on Andrew Bailey: “Missouri AG Andy Bailey Face Plants All Over Federal Docket In Media Matters Case” https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/missouri-ag-andy-bailey-face-plants   Judge McBurney Order re Georgia Hand Count Rule https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25214879-file_0479    ‘I’m a black NAZI!’: NC GOP nominee for governor made dozens of disturbing comments on porn forum https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-black-nazi-pro-slavery-porn-forum/index.html    The Lt. Governor Owes Me Money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4CbWIXGzvE    Ex-Porn Shop Employees Say Mark Robinson Was A Regular. He Denies It. https://www.theassemblync.com/politics/nc-election-governor-republican-mark-robinson-porn-allegations/    Robinson v. CNN complaint https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25215289-robinson-cnn-complaint   NC Pattern Jury Instructions https://www.sog.unc.edu/resources/microsites/north-carolina-pattern-jury-instructions/north-carolina-pattern-jury-instructions-civil-cases   NC Rule 8(a)(2) https://ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_1A/GS_1A-1,_Rule_8.html   Boeing Order https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.342881/gov.uscourts.txnd.342881.275.0_1.pdf    US v. Trump (DC docket) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

The courts are closed, but crazy never takes a break. We’ll check in on Alex Jones’s bankruptcy liquidation, Donald Trump’s shenanigans in the election interference case, and the horror show now that the mifepristone case is back before Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk. Subscribers catch up with Peter Navarro, who seems to be working at cross purposes to his old boss in federal court — although perhaps it hasn’t yet occurred to him.   Links:   Free Speech Systems Auction Page https://360assetadvisors.com/events/fssmh/   US v. Trump (DC docket) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc   L&C on Trump Revoking CBS’s “license” https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/no-the-fcc-cant-revoke-cbss-license   Oklahoma RFP 00000555 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JbS0fT-wBSpLhKojxAv_BN5htPPKSi1g1d8bfbz-wWE/edit?tab=t.0   Alex Jones TX plaintiff appeal https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.1028.0.pdf   FDA v. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine (2024) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-235_n7ip.pdf   Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine docket (ND Tex.) https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.370067   Navarro order https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.245941/gov.uscourts.dcd.245941.53.0.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod