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Let's Take This Offline: The Podcast for Everyday Leaders

Author: Kishshana Palmer

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Welcome to Let's Take This Offline: The Podcast for Everyday Leaders where we explore what it takes to be a dialed in and inclusive leader in todays changing workplace. We are on a mission to help everyday leaders live well and lead well through conversations that feel like the meeting after the meeting!
25 Episodes
Can You Ask For Help?

Can You Ask For Help?


In this wrap up of Season 2, Kishshana breaks down some of the lessons she learned within this past season about herself and about what it means to be a strong leader.   We have to swallow our pride and ask for help when needed.Stay tuned for Season 3!Support the show (
Hey Fab Crew!!!We are back and almost wrapping up the season with another great episode!  In this episode Kishshana sits with organizational leader and community developer Taneshia Nash Laird to discuss the something that is almost human nature but can be so destructive in our growth & mental stability and that is comparing ourselves to others and their journeys.  You won't want to miss this episode!!! The change agentTaneshia Nash Laird is a social change agent and community developer who centers cultural equity in her work. She is the President and CEO of Newark Symphony Hall, a historic performing arts center located within the Lincoln Park neighborhood of Newark, NJ. Since her appointment in November 2018, she has expanded programming to respond to community needs and announced plans to restore the 1925 vintage concert hall in a $40 million renovation and leverage it for neighborhood revitalization in a process she calls Symphony Works. Taneshia previously served as Executive Director of the Arts Council of Princeton, notably as the first person of color in that role. Taneshia has also served as Director of Economic Development & Acting Director of Housing Production for the City of Trenton (NJ), Regional Director of the U.S. Women's Chamber of Commerce, and was the Executive Director of the Trenton Downtown Association, where she initiated Destination Trenton, an award-winning arts and tourism program in NJ's capital city. Taneshia is an adjunct professor in Drexel University's Entertainment & Arts Management Bachelor of Science degree program.   Widowed in 2013 and a pink lady warrior since an early stage breast cancer diagnosis in 2019, Taneshia is most proud of being a mom to aspiring ballerina and budding cellist Naima, age 10, and self-proclaimed future doctor Imani, who in 2019, two months shy of her 13th birthday, played violin with her youth orchestra in Sicily. Support the show (
Hey Fab Crew!!!  IT'S KISHSHANA'S BIRTHDAY!!!!! Another trip around the sun marks not only a new year but a new outlook on how to approach the year ahead.  It's different from the New Year's saying - "New Year, New Me!"  Let's look at it with the lenses of "New Year, BETTER ME"... It's a great time to sit back and really reflect on what worked and what didn't work.  In this episode, Kishshana sits back and really takes personal inventory on what she has noticed throughout the year.  In this raw and very intimate conversation, she digs deeper into the meaning on what it really means to be a "woman of a certain age".Support the show (
Hey Fab Crew!In this episode, Kishshana sits down with her cousin & parenting coach Jelaine to discuss how our parenting styles show up in our work life and how to separate the two live a well balanced life.  Known as the The liberation educatorBorn in Miami but a true child of the islands. Jelaine is a first generation immigrant woman who has centered her life of the liberation of black communities on purpose. With extensive experience in education, she focuses on addressing the trauma that comes with parenting while black.Handle: @Blackparenting101Support the show (
Hey Fab Crew!in this episode Kishshana sits down with executive coach and published author Marc A. Pitman.  We have a great conversation about what it means to understanding the stories we tell ourselves do not reflect our management styles.  We also talk about taking control of how we understand our mission within organizational leadership. Marc's BioConcord Leadership Group founder Marc A. Pitman, CSP® helps leaders lead their teams with more effectiveness and less stress. His latest book is The Surprising Gift of Doubt: Use Uncertainty to Become the Exceptional Leader You Are Meant to Be. He’s also the author of Ask Without Fear!® – which has been translated into Dutch, Polish, Spanish, and Mandarin.Marc’s expertise and enthusiasm engages audiences around the world both in person and with online presentations. And has caught the attention of media organizations as diverse as The Chronicle of Philanthropy, Al Jazeera, Fox News, SUCCESS magazine, and Real Simple. Marc tweets regularly at @marcapitman.He is the husband to his best friend and the father of three amazing kids. And if you drive by him on the road, he’ll be singing 80’s tunes loud enough to embarrass his family!Social Media handle: the show (
Hey Fab Crew!!!You guys are going to love this episode!  Kishshana sits down with one of my amazing friends and experienced executive coach, Larnell Vickers.  We get down to the nitty gritty on what it means to look further than whats in front of your or even whats on the your resume.  Learning the possibilities starts with a pause, take a moment, pivot and move into the career of your choosing based on the skills you possess.  All great information, especially during this time of COVID, it is important that we not only like what we are doing, but we like ourselves in the process.BIO:Larnell Vickers is an experienced executive coach and talent professional within the social good/impact space with over 10+ years of experience. From one-on-one executive coaching, to talent placement and talent recruitment and hiring; he has worked with non-profits, educational organizations and for-profits to help enhance and drive forward their strategic talent plans. Also, he has worked tirelessly to help organizations to get very clear about their “who” when hiring and to then identify top talent that is game changing for the organization. Currently he serves as CEO and Founder of Larnell Vickers Enterprises, LLC, a firm positioned in matching great to great organizations and supporting individuals to live from their highest and best self both in career and life. Over the course of five years, the firm has supported over 25+ organizations in finding phenomenal talent, placed over 100+ professionals in mission driven organizations and has provided top tier coaching to over 150+ professionals. Along with being an Executive Recruiter, Larnell is an executive career and leadership coach where he has worked with executive professionals ranging from CEOs, Chief Talent Officers, Chief Financial Officers and other senior leadership team members to help build awareness of their leadership styles to hit key organizational goals, visualize success outcomes and identify the skills and tools needed to fulfill potential. He has also provided skilled group career coaching to individuals across the country with the intent to shift individuals from a place of survival to a new realm of possibility. Last, Larnell has received his training from an accredited International Coaching Federation program, Accomplishment Coaching, the World’s Finest Coaching Program. Larnell has extensive experience leading recruiting efforts for National education focused nonprofits such as Democracy Prep Public Schools and Uncommon Schools.Larnell is from Miami, Florida and currently lives in New York City. He attended the University of Florida and studied Political Science and Communication Studies for his Bachelor’s Degree and Business Management for his Master’s degree. In his spare time, he enjoys swimming, hiking, reading and traveling around the world. Social media handle: @larnellvickersSupport the show (
Hey Fab Crew!On this episode, Kishshana sits down with certified Gallup Strength Finder Coach., Damali Smith Tolson.  We get to the nitty gritty on how can we make our strengths work for us in the corporate sector.   Learn more about the strength finder at Smith Tolson is the Director of Student Life at Baruch College, where she is responsible for developing and enhancing a supportive and nurturing environment for undergraduate and graduate student populations.  As a higher education administrator, she has dedicated over 18 years to creating a valuable institutional experience for both alumni and students.  Her ultimate desire is to assist students in learning how to be good citizens of their respective communities while obtaining their personal goals.Support the show (
Hey Fab Crew, In this episode, Kishshana sits down with longtime friend and amazing spirit, Maria Smith Dautruche to discuss the idea of just "being basic" as a Black woman.   Listen friends, this episode will have you laughing so hard your sides will hurt.  Be sure to stick around until the end for this weeks Kish Tip (Vitamin K) for the week!!!Maria's BioMarried to Minister Lopez-Joel Dautruche, and mommy to Imena, Maria Smith Dautruche spends her time healing, cultivating, connecting, and agitating. Maria has been a professional frontline fundraiser for more than 15 years.  She is a member of the recently launched The Rooted Collaborative™ - a global community focused on the holistic evolution and advancement of female leaders of color in the social impact sector. She is currently a Senior Advisor to the President and CEO of the National Urban League after more than 5 years as Vice President in the Partnerships & Advancement Office of the historic civil rights organization. In addition to raising $51 million during her time as a Vice President at NUL, Maria played a critical role in shaping the organization’s current racial equity partnerships.  Prior to this role, Maria was Assistant Director of Foundation Relations in the Central Office of the Smithsonian Institution during the organization’s history-making $1.5 billion comprehensive campaign.  Maria is also a proud co-founder of New Voices for Reproductive Justice – a powerful organizing force for the health and well-being of Black women and girls, women of color and LGBTQ+ people of color at the local, state (PA and OH) and national level.Maria is from Mount Vernon, NY where she is a member of the Westchester Black Women’s Political Caucus and Community Voices Heard. Maria is an Elias Foundation Activist Fellow and led the organization of Westchester County’s first observance of National Day of Racial Healing on January 19, 2021.Best known for: Profound jokes.Honest observations.Raising the monies.Keeping it real.Former shape-shifter and code-switcher.I am also an exceptional friend. Social Handle: @MariaDautruche
This conversation takes place on a zoom call for the Rooted Collaborative Retreat for successful women in leadership and business.  In this conversation, Kishshana is joined with long time friend and inspiration, Ify Walker.  Get your pen and notepad and take some notes!  There are some gems shared by Ify that takes authenticity to a whole new level. Ify Walker is the Founder & CEO of Offor* - the national talent brokerage ( Clients come to Ify for her trademark no-nonsense counsel on building high performing teams; debunking the meritocracy myth; abolishing performance reviews; and exploring how to ensure that the future of work is a virtual 25-hour workweek.Her work has been featured in the Stanford Social Innovation Review, Fast Company, and PBS News Hour. Ify is an attorney by training and a proud product of Nigerian parents, the original dairy state, and Head Start. She is a mother of two, a sister to five, and wife to the best decision she's ever made. When she's not questioning everything, you can find her running Mom's School of Excellence. Follow her on Twitter @ifywalker or on LinkedIn #DearBlackWomen. She also writes on her blog, Pass the BatonFab Crew,  make sure you stay tuned in until the very end for a new added segment , "Kish Tips"Kish Tip of the day - "Black Women Are Made For More Than Work"Book RecommendationsTiffany Dufu - Drop the Ball Grant - Think Again: The Power Of Knowing What You Don’t Know
Season 2 Teaser

Season 2 Teaser


Hey Fab Crew!!!With only a week away,  season 2 is slowly approaching.   In this upcoming season, Kishshana will focus on Professional Development. Kishshana is going to talk with armchair experts on authenticity, seek out possibility and thrive.Subscribe, Comment, Share &  Rate us 5 Stars!!!If you haven't already,  catch up on season 1 and lets continue on this journey together.
Hey Fab Crew!  So glad to have you back for another episode of Let's Take This Offline!In this episode, Kishshana sits down with a long time friend and customer service expert, Briana McKenzie.  This conversation is eye opening and can help you get your service mind right if you want your business to thrive.  Having a Customer Service Orientation mindset is more than just the customer is always right but more so finding ways to make the customer happy especially when the customer isn't actually right!  This episode is packed with some great tips on how to be of service to not only the customer but the organization as well.Briana's Bio:The Sweetest Gal you’ll ever meet!People who know Bri (as she is affectionately called by friends and family) will tell you that she’s “ the sweetest gal” you’ll ever meet.  Brianna proudly hails from South Jamaica Queens.  Raised in a Guyanese household, she learned early the importance of treating people with kindness and respect.. “Do unto others.....” and has continued to do so in her 20 plus years in the customer service industry.  Her current position as an Airport Operations Lead for a Major US Airline carrier, has given her the chance to use her customer service expertise on another level.  Brianna is a “Young Leader for Change'' award recipient.  She holds an associate’s degree from SUNY Farmingdale University in Urban Studies and Communications.  Her 3 nieces, 2 godsons & 1 goddaughter are the lights of her life!Social handle: thisisbris@gmail.comSupport the show (
In this special bonus episode, we are gifted with the words of wisdom of none other than Kishshana's Jamaican Daddy, Bernard Palmer.He breaks down his thoughts of the season and shares great gems.  Support the show (
Own Your Leadersh*t

Own Your Leadersh*t


In this season closer, Kishshana recaps the lessons of the season from her guests and sends us into the spring with one charge own your Leadesh*t.  We are responsible for our lives. Our life is our choice and what we’ve done with these choices up until this point is done. So what’s next? Let’s talk about it.
For many leaders, finding time to be creative can be tough. But making time to play feels impossible. Kishshana gets one of her best friends and long time Creative Director for the Kishshana & Co. family of brands, Rochelle Sodipo to talk about the magic (and necessity) of making time to play as a HOV lane to joy, rest, innovation and fuel as a leader. https://www.rosereddetc.com
This conversation with Kishshana and her guest Ajuah Helton (who happens to be one of her best friends) needed cocktails because THIS conversation explores women of color in the workplace and the winding road we take from honeymoon Helen to “have a nice life” Harriot. Get ready to unpack the “problem” women of color in the workplace and how companies and organizational leaders at every level have a responsibility to to make sure we cut this destructive mess OUT!Support the show (
Summary: After being booed up with her business for the last 5.5 years, Kishshana has decided she’s ready for love and calls up Dr. Cassandra Henriquez b.k.a. Coach Cass to talk about Love on the Leaderboard. Leaders need love too! Why does it feel so challenging to meet amazing humans the more successful we become? Coach Cass breaks down her Real Love success formula https://www.inspiremany.com
Kishshana picks up the phone to call her resident money expert, Tani Chambers to chat about legacy and significance, leveraging your legacy now and later. And what’s up with these MLM schemes claiming to build wealth? How do we use tools to build a financial legacy? Is that the only type of legacy we can build?Support the show (
Kishshana gets on the phone with HR expert, Joy Pittman to talk about authenticity, exceptionalism, being an influencer from any seat and why you never know what kind of effect you will have on people when you’re out in the world. How does your generation affect how your identity at work? Is Diversity Equity and Inclusion just lip service?
Kishshana is back to talk about money and our relationship with money. From Solo mama adventures to not picking up the phone when the bill collectors called, we get into how our money stuff and how it’s tied to so many things that seemingly have nothing to do with money. Do all roads lead to the coin?  I Got My Mind On My Money and My Money On My Mind. Support the show (
Kishshana chats with her father Bernard Palmer on all things leadership and life.  Kishshana is a 1st Generation American and super proud of her Jamaican heritage.  How you’re raised affects how you show up as an adult.  Together, this father/daughter duo explore game changing lessons  about values, success metrics, what’s really important in life (family) and what’s in a hard day's work? https://kishshanaco.comSupport the show (
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