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The most entertaining and enraging stories from mythology told casually, contemporarily, and (let's be honest) sarcastically. Greek and Roman gods did some pretty weird (and awful) things. Gods, goddesses, heroes, monsters, and everything in between. Regular episodes every Tuesday, conversations with authors and scholars or readings of ancient epics every Friday.
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Liv speaks with Stephanie McCarter, whose was last on the show to talk about her recent translation of Ovid's Metamorphoses, this time it's all about ancient women in power, both the historical, the mythical, and the details somewhere in between. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
1This episode originally aired March 22, 2022. Atalanta: the heroine of ancient Greece. Or, was it heroines? There are two Atalantas, sometimes conflated into one, other times separate. One fought the Calydonian boar, wrestled Peleus, and generally kicked ass. The other lost a foot race, distracted by a golden apple. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Theoi.com entry on Atalanta, including Aelian, Apollodorus, Apollonios, and others; Early Greek Myths by Timothy Gantz. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This episode originally aired in March of 2022. Liv was joined by Dr Christie Vogler who talks about women of the Roman world who practiced medicine, in varied forms, and how these women were seen and understood in the wider Roman world. Follow Christie on Twitter and check out her podcast, Movies We Dig (where Liv has been a three time guest!). Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This episode originally aired in July of 2023. Before she was Aphrodite, she was Kypris, and before she was Kypris, well, she was Astarte and Inanna/Ishtar. This is the story of Aphrodite's origins in ancient Phoenicia and Mesopotamia. You can submit your questions or comments or favourites here! Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Theoi.com entry on Aphrodite; Early Greek Myths by Timothy Gantz; Aphrodite by Monica Cyrino; Venus and Aphrodite by Bettany Hughes; Article: Before Kypris was Aphrodite by Stephanie L. Budin; Herodotus' Histories, translated by GC Macauley (opening quote only). Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liv speaks with PhD student Cecily Bateman about their research in disability in the ancient world (spoilers: it's as horrifying as it is fascinating). CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Happy Halloween! On today's Hermes Historia Michaela tells Liv all about the ancient practices of divination and speaking with the dead... Sign up for a new newsletter to stay in the loop about the upcoming ad-free subscriptions where future Hermes' Historia episodes will live! Submit your questions to the quarterly Q&A episodes! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Herodotus' The Histories, translated by Robin Waterfield; Radcliffe G. Edmonds III. Drawing Down the Moon: Magic in the ancient greco-roman world; Sarah Iles Johnston. Ancient Greek Divination; Sarah Iles Johnston. “Charming Children: The Use of the Child in Ancient Divination”. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
A re-airing of all three parts of Liv's 2022 reading of Lucian's True History, translated by Francis Hickes. In this 2nd Century CE satirical novel of epic proportions, Lucian if Samosata invents a world where he visits rivers of wine, takes a trip to space, a war inside a whale, and a heroic journey through the Underworld. This is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Featuring clips from episodes on Ovid's Medea, Chthonic Cuties, conversations with Antonia Aluko and Dr Ellie Mackin Roberts, and readings of Homer's Odyssey, translated by Samuel Butler. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: see original episode descriptions for sources. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this (late, it's still free for a reason) Hermes Historia episode, Michaela shares a brief history of ancient Greek funerary practices. Because Spooky Season. Sign up for a new newsletter to stay in the loop about the upcoming ad-free subscriptions where future Hermes' Historia episodes will live! Submit your questions to the quarterly Q&A episodes! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: John Ferguson's Among the Gods: An Archaeological Exploration of Ancient Greek Religion; Maria Serena Mirto's Death in the Greek World: From Homer to the Classical Age; Herodotus' The Histories, translated by Robin Waterfield. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liv teams up with Genn and Jenny of Ancient History Fangirl to tell the first half of Lucian's True History. Sign up for the newsletter here. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Lucian's True History, translated by HW Fowler and FG Fowler; Lucian of Samosata Project. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liv speak with Asrar Mattsson Chaara about female suicides in Ovid's Heroides. Submit your questions to the quarterly Q&A episodes! Sign up for the newsletter here! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liv reads three letters of Ovid's Heroides: Dido to Aeneas, Deianeira to Hercules, and Phyllis to Demophoon, to prepare for Friday's converSubmit your questions to the quarterly Q&A episodes! Sign up for the Iris' Rainbow newsletter! CW/TW: Today's episode specifically references suicide, though brief. This is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they were in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
An episode of the Partial Historians podcast about Spartacus, because why not? Pre-order Dr Rad and Dr G's new book, Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire now! Find out more and listen to the Partial Historians here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liv reads speeches from Seneca's Thyestes and Agamemnon, translated by Frank Justus Miller. Ask your questions for the next Q&A episode here! This is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they were in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Revisiting... Hecate! A re-airing of the 2022 episode looking at everything there is to know about Hecate, all powerful goddess of witchcraft, and some real life women accused of witchcraft in ancient Greece. Submit your question for the next Q&A episode here, or sign up for our new newletter here! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Early Greek Myths by Timothy Gantz; Theoi.com entries on Hecate and Hesiod's Theogony; Heroines of Olympus; Underworld Gods in Ancient Greek Religion both by Ellie Mackin Roberts; Magic, Witchcraft, and Ghosts in the Greek and Roman Worlds by Daniel Ogden; Magic in the Ancient Greek World by Derek Collins. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liv speaks with Cosi Carnegie about sparagmos, the tearing apart of Pentheus, in Euripides Bacchae. Check out more from Cosi here. Submit your questions to the quarterly Q&A episodes! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The final narrative episode of the Euripides series has been postponed... For now, welcome to Spooky Season. This episode originally aired in 2021. CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Theoi.com: Aeschylus' Agamemnon, translated by Herbert Weir Smyth and found on Theoi; Early Greek Myths by Timothy Gantz. Episode title is an edited quote from Scream 2. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liv speaks with Sean Gurd who specialized in, and records reconstructions of, ancient music from its archaic origins down to the aulos players of Euripidean tragedy. The aulos pieces were recorded at the Ancient Music and Performance Lab at UT Austin and were written by Jonathan Churchett and Sean Gurd, aulos performed by Johnathan Churchett. Recordings used with permission. Submit your questions to the quarterly Q&A episodes! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hermes Historia is a new series hosted by Liv and Michaela, brief lessons in ancient history. This time: the evolution of the physical theatre space... Sign up for a new newsletter to stay in the loop about the upcoming ad-free subscriptions where future Hermes' Historia episodes will live! Submit your questions to the quarterly Q&A episodes! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: Theatre in Ancient Greek Society by JR Green;The Context of Ancient Drama by Eric and William J. Slater. Herodotus' The Histories, translated by Robin Waterfield. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Some of the most realistic, sympathetic, complex, and villainous women of the ancient world are found in the works of Euripides. He seemed to have had an interest in the people on the margins, women, foreign "barbarians", and enslaved people. Today we're looking at them, and Euripides through them. Find the International Podcast Day livestream here! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: (Translations listed under each) Euripides' Hecuba, The Trojan Women, Medea, Hippolytus, Andromache, The Suppliant Women; Aristophanes' Thesmophoriazusae; Mary Lefkowitz' Euripides and the Gods. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm so baffled by the incels in these comments. Being a feminist means believing men and women deserve to be treated with equal respect. How tf could anyone argue against that? And for everyone whinging about it, imagine how tired women feel
semi related Nemisis fact: there was a shrine to her in the Roman Amphitheatre in Chester. Chester is a city in northern England that still has it's Roman walls. It is speculated to have been intended to become the capital of the British isles, or at least a staging post for the conquest of Ireland.
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This book was such a disappointment to me for much the same reasons you gave. I was so excited about it…and it was such nonsense. I’m glad to hear I’m not alone as almost everyone I have spoken to thinks it’s great. I hated almost everything about it. 🤷🏼♀️
Whether or not Euripides added the epilogue is something we may never know definitively. However, two earlier versions of the story, one from the Cypria and one from Hesiod's Catalog of Women, do not end with the death of Iphigenia by sacrificial blade on the altar at Aulis. The Cypria fragment 1 from the synopsis in Proclus' "Chrestomathia" says: "When the expedition had mustered a second time at Aulis, Agamemnon, while at the chase, shot a stag and boasted that he surpassed even Artemis. At this the goddess was so angry that she sent stormy winds and prevented them from sailing. Calchas then told them of the anger of the goddess and bade them sacrifice Iphigeneia to Artemis. This they attempt to do, sending to fetch Iphigeneia as though for marriage with Achilles. Artemis, however, snatched her away and transported her to the Tauri, making her immortal, and putting a stag in place of the girl upon the altar." Note that this took place the 2nd time the fleet mustered at Aulis. And th
Partheneion is a song/poem to be sung by a chorus of young, unmarried girls. The etymology is from the Greek word for virgin, (Παρθένος Parthenos). The Parthenon is named for the virgin goddess Athena, who like Hestia and Artemis, were perpetual virgins.
One of the reasons the Spartan men "loved" to sing and dance was because music enhanced the precision of their hoplite phalanx formation. On the battlefield they marched together singing in unison to inspire morale and patriotic emotions. And a piper played the aulos to keep time as they moved and turned in lock step. They drilled and practiced to the same music. The role of the Spartan king on military campaigns was to perform religious sacrifices and decide whether or not the signs were auspicious for a Spartan victory. If they were not, the Spartans did not fight that day. While Plutarch may have relied on the Roman re-creation of ancient Spartan practices for his Life of Lycurgus, it is also likely that he relied on other sources which are now lost. Scholars estimate that only 10% of the writings from archaic, classical and Hellenistic Greece have survived to our time. So let's not be too quick to disparage Plutarch. Xenophon wrote the Polity of the Lacedaemonians, a treatise/book
stop with the feministic victim bs already...we don't care about slanted views of reality. just stick with mythology
I looked up the statue that you mentioned in the podcast and from what I saw in the pictures it is really beautiful I can just imagine how beautiful it would be in person definitely going to be on my bucket list now oh and by the way I love the podcast I just found it today and I've been listening to it Non-Stop
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Excellent! and the poem at the end, the best!
Episode 367 on Alcestis was amazing- insightful, funny, and full of historical information. I would like to add that Alcestis in my opinion was definitely a satyr play. Satyr plays were first and foremost comedies. Typically they had a bawdy theme, with humor that appealed to men. After all the audience, the actors, chorus and playwrights were all men. So let's have a lot of jokes about dicks and then let's go get drunk. But this subversive play is a satire. It makes fun of the gods, Apollo and the Fates break all the rules and allow Admetus to live beyond his fated time to die. It allows Heracles to beat Death ( the god Thanatos) and Hades to yield back a person who did die. While men were supposed to protect their families with their very lives, here Admetus allows his wife to die in his stead. He now must take on the role of mother of his children. Respect for one's father was a basic tenet of Greek culture. But Admetus expects his shocked indignant and very unwilling father to die
This episode on the Orphic tradition is not Liz's finest hour. It casts more shade than light.