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Let’s Think About It Podcast is where high achievers stop performing and start leading themselves with intention.


You may have the title, the résumé, and the responsibility, but behind the scenes, you’re carrying pressure, expectations, and an internal grind that never really shuts off. This podcast is your reset.


Hosted by Coach Mo — certified leadership coach (PCC, ICF), published author, and creator of The Inner Arena™ — each episode challenges how leaders think, show up, and sustain themselves when the pressure is real. This is not surface-level motivation. It’s real conversation about the internal work required to lead without burning out.


At the core of the show is the S.W.A.G.™ Framework:

  • Self-Awareness — recognizing the patterns and inner narratives running the show
  • Why-Power — reconnecting to purpose beyond titles and expectations
  • Aligned Action — choosing actions rooted in values, not fear
  • Grit — building emotional stamina to stay grounded under pressure


Every episode is grounded in five leadership pillars that shape the conversations:

  • Resilience — rebuilding from pressure without breaking
  • Energy Protection — identifying and plugging the leaks that drain your capacity
  • Burnout — recognizing it early and recovering before it costs you
  • Leading Self — mastering your inner world before leading others
  • Navigating Conflict (Inner & Outer) — addressing what’s avoided with clarity and courage


This podcast is for executives, professionals, and high performers who are outwardly capable but internally stretched — leaders ready to drop the armor, quiet the inner critic, and lead with clarity, confidence, and purpose.


If you’re ready to get out of your own way, reclaim your edge, and lead from the inside out, you’re in the right room.


Step inside the arena.


🎧 Subscribe to Let’s Think About It for weekly conversations that build self-awareness, emotional stamina, and leadership rooted in purpose — not pressure.

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Summary In Episode 77, Coach Mo closes out the December momentum series by breaking down grit—the most misunderstood and most critical part of the S.W.A.G. framework. This episode reframes grit away from hustle and grind and squarely into what it really is: the discipline to not quit on yourself when motivation fades, energy leaks, and the inner critic gets loud. You’ll hear how grit sustains self-awareness, reactivates your why, and keeps aligned action alive—especially when busyness disguis...
Episode Summary Momentum doesn’t come from doing more. It comes from doing what actually matters. In Episode 76, Coach Mo closes out the December Momentum Series by breaking down Aligned Action—the difference between movement that fuels you and busyness that drains you. This episode challenges high achievers and leaders to stop confusing effort with alignment and start measuring their actions by energy, not ego. You’ll hear why burnout is often the result of misaligned action, how energ...
Episode Summary Momentum doesn’t come from motivation. It comes from purpose. In Episode 75, Coach Mo breaks down Why-Power—the most overlooked and most powerful force in the S.W.A.G. framework. After laying the groundwork with self-awareness in the previous episode, this conversation goes deeper into purpose as the fuel that keeps you showing up when motivation fades and the inner critic gets loud. This episode challenges surface-level goal setting and exposes why external rewards—mone...
Episode Summary December 2025 moved fast, and if you’re a high achiever, it probably burned you out more than you want to admit. In this episode, Coach Mo and Coach A-Mo break down how to use self-awareness as your first rep in the S.W.A.G. cycle so you don’t drag the same burnout into 2026. They unpack what it really means to “anchor yourself,” how to read your burnout in real time, and why resets are the antidote to draining your energy. From irritation and frustration at work to that...
Episode Summary As the year closes, most leaders wait for January to “get serious” about goals. In this episode, Coach Mo and Coach A-Mo flip that script and show you how to use December as your momentum month for 2026. They walk through a four-part goal-setting process rooted in the S.W.A.G. framework: decide who you’re becoming, reconnect with your deeper why, visualize the future you already living the result, and build the grit to keep moving when the old you tries to pull you back....
Episode Summary What really shapes your work culture: the organization, or the energy you bring into it? In this episode, Coach Mo breaks down his CTCT framework for healthy workplace culture—Communication, Teamwork, Collaboration, and Trust—born from a panel conversation with UC Davis law students preparing to enter the profession. He unpacks how CTCT shows up in great teams, the military, and everyday organizations, and why broken cultures always trace back to gaps in those four areas. Then...
Episode Summary Leaders don’t get stuck for lack of talent. They get stuck inside an old identity. In this episode, Coach Mo and Coach A-Mo unpack how environment, habits, and memory lock us into the “chicken yard” when we’re built to fly. Using the S.W.A.G. Framework—Self-Awareness, Why-Power, Aligned Action, and Grit—they show how to move from autopilot to intention, from external validation to inner vision, and from proof-seeking to faith-driven progress. You’ll learn why shifting leadersh...
Episode Summary High achievers often wear every hat in the room. At home they are the fixer. At work they are the go-to. Then they wonder why they feel exhausted, resentful, and low-key burned out. In this episode, Coach Mo and Coach A-Mo break down the two hats leaders and caregivers wear most: the “Big Mama” hat (I solve it for you) and the “Thought Partner” hat (I help you solve it for yourself). They show how staying in fixer mode pulls you into other people’s stories, drains your e...
Episode Summary Most high achievers don’t burn out because they lack success — they burn out because success stopped feeling fulfilling. In this powerful episode, Coach Mo and Coach A-Mo break down why so many leaders reach every milestone yet still feel empty inside. They unpack how chasing titles, status, and validation keeps leaders in a “reward cycle” that numbs purpose and fuels ego. Through real talk, poetry, and personal stories, the two explore how self-awareness becomes the ignition ...
Episode Summary When pressure spikes, even elite leaders can keep teams steady while quietly losing their center. This episode drills into the hardest skill in leadership: leading self under pressure. Coach Mo and co-host Algie Mo break down how the punk-ass inner critic hijacks decisions, why reactive energy erodes trust, and how to install a reliable “mental pause” you can access in real time. Using the S.W.A.G. Framework—Self-Awareness, Why-Power, Aligned Action, and Grit—you will learn to...
Episode Summary Leaders don’t burn out from hard work—they burn out from avoiding the conversations that matter. In this episode, Coach Mo and co-host Algie Mosley unpack the “war within” that fuels conflict avoidance: the inner critic versus intuition. You’ll learn how fear, dressed up as logic, hijacks judgment and keeps teams stuck, and how to shift into your inner coach to address issues with clarity and care. Using the S.W.A.G.™ framework—Self-Awareness, Why-Power, Aligned Action, and Gr...
SummaryS.W.A.G.™ CHEAT SHEET THE INNER ARENA Identity isn’t a job title—it’s energy in motion. In this conversation, Coach Mo and co-host Algie Mosley unpack the “identity crisis” leaders face when titles, roles, or achievements become the measure of worth. Using the S.W.A.G.™ framework—Self-Awareness, Why-Power, Aligned Action, and Grit—they show how to silence the punk-ass inner critic, reset energy levels, and move from stagnation to momentum. Algie shares a powerful shift from self-doubt ...
Episode Summary Coach Mo reconnects with longtime friend and consultant Robynne Rose-Haymer for a conversation that blends personal truth with practical strategy. Robynne shares how mindfulness, gratitude, and a strong support squad help her navigate life’s peaks and valleys while refusing to let fear or the inner critic dictate her path. From doctoral studies to nonprofit leadership, she brings a lived perspective on resilience, reflection, and continuous learning. Coach Mo then introduces h...
Episode Summary Self-doubt is one of the toughest opponents leaders, professionals, and everyday people face. In this episode of Let’s Think About It, Coach Mo and co-host Algie Mosley dig into the inner battle of self-doubt, imposter syndrome, and the “punk-ass inner critic” that keeps so many from stepping into their potential. They explore how fear often comes from cycles passed down by family, culture, and society—and how curiosity, self-awareness, and choice can break those chains. Throu...
Episode Summary What if the most powerful shift in your career started with one small step? In this episode, Coach Mo welcomes back Michelle Schafer, career and leadership coach and bestselling author of Cultivating Career Growth: Navigating Transitions With Purpose. Together, they unpack the emotional and tactical realities of career transition, especially during job loss, layoffs, and uncertainty. Michelle shares the inner hurdles she overcame to write her book—and how the same ...
Episode Summary Leadership is performance—but most leaders are doing it without a locker room. In this raw solo episode, Coach Mo reveals the overlooked reason so many high performers hit burnout: they’re carrying emotional weight with no place to reset, reflect, or get held accountable. Drawing from his experience as a college football player, Coach Mo explains why leaders need more than motivation—they need reps. The Inner Arena was built for this. If you’re tired of leading solo, this epis...
Episode Summary: In Episode 60, Coach Mo steps into the Inner Arena to answer real-world leadership questions from listeners who are barely hanging on. From Stacy, a higher ed leader feeling invisible and depleted, to Kevin, a senior healthcare manager stuck on autopilot — this episode dives deep into what it really means to lead yourself when your tank is empty. Coach Mo unpacks the invisible cost of emotional over-functioning, the warning signs of energy leaks, and how to use simple but pow...
EPISODE SUMMARY Reclaim Your Voice and Rise: Confidence, Clarity, and Career Growth for Women in Leadership When you’re doing the work and still getting overlooked, the problem isn’t your performance—it’s your visibility. In this episode, Coach Mo sits down with Rosie Zilinskas, founder of No Woman Left Behind, to explore why high-achieving women stay stuck in corporate roles and how to shift that trajectory. Rosie shares how her Promotion Readiness Roadmap helps women become confident advoca...
Episode Summary When was the last time you felt off your game—not burned out, but just off? In this solo episode, Coach Mo breaks down how high-achieving leaders drift into autopilot, self-doubt, and overthinking…and how to reclaim what he calls your SWAG: Self-awareness, Why-power, Aligned actions, and Grit. Through the story of one anxious executive prepping for a high-stakes presentation, you’ll hear how mindset, energy, and intention create real confidence. If you're leading from fear ins...
🎙️ Episode Summary What if happiness wasn’t a byproduct of success—but the foundation for it? In this episode, Coach Mo sits down with Edwin Edebiri, Global Chief Happiness Officer and founder of the I Am Happy Project, to explore why energy protection starts with mastering your inner joy. Edwin breaks down the science and soul of happiness as a learnable skill, not a fleeting emotion. From preventing burnout to building purpose-aligned businesses, this conversation unpacks how to train your ...
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