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I am so thrilled and honored to have my first returning guest for this Podcast, the one and only Bella is back! Bella is a Creative Strategist based in NYC.  I interviewed her Last year around this time. A year went by, Bella and I are both growing and evolving which leads to this amazing episode about ‘ travel creates new reality ’!Bella shared her most recent trip to Mexico City that began with Hopping in a plane alone without any planning, and a solo trip sometimes turned out to be the best trip. As Bella said, being spontaneous led her to blend in and live like a local over there. To stay away from NY’s ‘ hustle culture ‘ and lifestyle featuring super-intensity and high discipline for moments, she recharged and reinvented herself in a new country in the way that she sees things with fresh eyes and new perspectives. She feels like her ‘inner- child ‘ passion and curiosity towards the world kicked back again. The biggest takeaway from this trip was to let  guard off  herself and embrace the opportunity of building a new connection with others. Another profound impact travel does on us comes back to our mindset shift: We can see ourselves survive and thrive in different places which leads to infinite possibilities in life!We both thus established the fact that travel leads to a new reality: when we truly open ourselves to the world, we gained the strength to build a new community and family, make new friends, and build a new life anywhere in this world. Bella said whenever we push ourselves out of our comfort zone, we have the opportunity to start over again! It’s so powerful for anybody in whatever situation at whatever age. Unique travel experiences stay within us and the memories we built won’t fade away. It becomes our stories to tell when we are too old to travel, sitting on the couch and beginning to reminisce. ( In this episode, Bella shared her ‘ Crazy adventure ‘ slash the best night in Mexico; I shared my ‘debut sing in a steamboat’ story from my recent trip to New Zealand.As Bella said:  all the small things, little moments in the stories, all those particular moments made us who we are, and made our lives special! Bella shared :We are always growing, and picking up new things, and our priority is also changing. Our life pursuit is more than just success in careers and it even can be bigger than ourselves.Learning is deeper than just elevating our skills to be the best in our expertise. We learn to be better persons, to be humble, to slow down, appreciate small things from each travel experience.Apply that mindset or things we learn from that trip to other aspects of our life. Try to see how life goes and what happens to you. You start feeling excited about life again and wondering what is coming ahead!This Episode means so much to me as we both are growing and surviving through this pandemic to this point of having this Episode about Travelling. I want to tell everyone that things do get better. Adversity builds our character and Constraints lead to Creativity!Conntect to Bella :Website: bellajiangInstagram:  itsbellajiang小红书: 一只纽约文艺狗 BellListen to our Episode  back in 2021 lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Coming from a upbringing  where education around self-love  and confidence seem to be missing,  Beverly price discovered her path from self-expression to self-empowerment  in later her adulthood. The road to self-empowerment  comes  with pain and struggles,   but Beverly said, without being self-empowered, she wouldn’t   have that strengths  to pivot  to  Jewelry design from finance sector.   It took her 30 years to reach other side of  self-empowerment while  she believe  it doesn’t  need to be that much long for women to get there.  She is hence missioned -driven to  take women on a journey from self-expression to self-empowerment. she funded  her Jewellery brand Nastava that featuring bespoke Pieces and finest materials.  As an intuitive designer, she pours in soul and heart in each piece . The goal of Nastava is to empower and inspire  her clients with the  boldness and uniqueness element  in her creation. She believes This transformation on the outside, along with a transformation on the inside, is the best recipe for confidence and self-empowerment. When you feel beautiful outside, you feel empowered inside. She further shared other foundations of self-empowerment: don’t compare yourself  with others.  Often we compare our inside with other’s outside  which always ends up feeling  the  sense of inadequacies . What we should focus on is to fall I love with authentic  ourselves and be comfortable on own  skin. We should also switch the victim mindset to I am responsible  for myself.  Somtimes professional help is needed to find that strength to move forward. Beverly  described her Entrepreneurial Journey as an emotional roller coaster  ride . She said Entrepreneurial world is not for everyone . But if you do want to build your own business, you should  take that leap of faith eventually.  There is little voice inside us  that take us to our true calling .There  are some nudges  in our life along the way that ‘push’ us to embark  on the journey.  She addressed  struggling  facing  female funder in current  funding  ecosystem, and what takes to be a successful  entrepreneur ( resilience ,  optimism  , mindset shift, building support network, etc.,  ). When self-doubt and second guess creep in ( which is inevitable )  you are still able to cope emotionally  well and keep going!  She just launched a new podcast called  Her-Self-Expression ( I am a big fan ) and built  Her- Self -Expression Sisterhood, a Facebook Group. Both  are extension of her life-long  mission: Support and Advocate for women’s personal journey from self-expression to self-empowerment! Beverly shared: Being  a participant is  the key  in  support network so you can  have fuller and richer life experience,  and you can’t just expect  people to come to you . You need to be an active part as well. Essentially  you  need  to be that kind of friend somebody want to be friend with.When the pain of problem comes  greater than the  pain of  solution,  change will happen.When you get to other side of empowerment, it doesn’t mean you arrived and the journey ended . The journey continues through your whole life.The biggest  thing is walking through your fear, just put  one foot in front another and keep going. Connect to Beverly:Website: herselfexpressionlifedesignerwithjingyuchen             lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Amy's initial intention of writing a book was to get some press and have her screenplay picked up by Hollywood. It was such a life-defining moment when she realized her book actually brings so many joys and creates an escape for her readers. Her two books (Book of Failures / We're All A Mess, It's OK)  also are a big commercial success: both are number one sellers on Amazon  among other hit humor writers  like Trevor Noah,  Tina Fay, etc., but she is no longer obsessed  about  having to have her film made by Hollywood. She hence found her consistent drive of writing which is to make people laugh and feel better about their struggles. She also dedicated three chapters of the first book to her travel to China.  She always opens herself to the outside world with strong curiosity which also passed on to her children!   Her true openness and inclusiveness got me connected to her on a deep and personal level!We both are uplifted by others’ words  (readers, audiences, peers, etc.,).  Expressing our appreciation and admiration to others does matter.  Building a support network and community not only makes us feel less lonely on this passion-pursuit journey but also brings us a new perspective and inspiration!  We both believe life is about building connections and reaching out to those we appreciate or want to Learn with!  But Amy never expects to gain anything but rather always thinks about what to offer first.  Her experience also approves that when you genuinely reach out to someone, often you will get so much in return  ( friendship, mutual support, etc).  Although reach-out may end up being rejected,  the reach-out itself is still a worthy and fun way of expressing our feelings! It’s one thing that two persons feel click or not,  it’s another thing that how you treat people.  We both adopt Zero tolerance to mean people who don’t treat people with basic respect. Holding  that  gratitude in heart plays a long way! Like any creative person,  Amy experienced her zone moments which is in writing.  We both feel it’s the most amazing experience when entering that zone! That’s how we know we found our true passion! Looking back on this passion-pursue journey,  Amy said she felt so grateful and blessing to be able to achieve so much although her ultimate goal of being  that writing room is yet to be fulfilled.  This podcast journey with her is beyond words amazing, and I want to highlight some reflections and thoughts of her that I will always  keep in my mind:There is truth, honesty, and value just to pursue your dream, regardless of the results.There are lots of little wins you need to celebrate in the process of pursuing your dream. Sometimes we feel if I have this thing, we will be happy. The truth is you probably won't be , because it's  not  about a thing, money or one particular reward, I think it's about the Journey. 100 % pursue your passion at a younger age, but it’s never too late to start, just start doing something from today!It's’ about the journey, not the destination. While Amy and  I both are still on the journey, we believe the best way to go through this journey is to trust and enjoy the process that will lead to our end goal!  I wholeheartedly believe Amy will break into that writing room where she belongs to!Connect to AmyWebsite: amylyleInstagram: amylyleauthorHer Book on Amazon: Amy-LyleTed Talk: finding the funny in the crummylifedesignerwithjingyuchen
From the outside look inside,  Amy is such a multi-hyphenate, wearing lots of hats. She pivoted a big way from finance to the creative world where she is currently thriving! This is another inspiring story that if you dare to dream and the dream will come true!It all started her role shift from a working person to a stay-home Mum, which promoted her to find her first creative outlet: Acting on the local church stage. She committed to performing there for a decade which also got her to connect to her biggest passion: Becoming a Screenwriter! To reach the end goal of having her screenplay picked up by Hollywood, she took a Hollywood attorney’s advice of getting some press first which led to the frequency of all events. She wrote two best-selling humor books( Book of Failures /  We're All A Mess, It's OK) on Amazon, became a regular guest in a Morning show in Atlanta , played her first lead role in the movie ‘ the intervierwers’, did a Ted Talk, and is running a local TV Show'' In The Burbs” and an active stand-up Comedienne, etc., the list can go on.Looking back, she said everything she did was not by any grand design but go above what she thought she was capable of. She embarked on an unknown and even a bit scary journey which turned out to be the best years of her life. She shared that the best feeling is to overcome that fear and take that plunge of trying something you were not initially good at but over time you became better and even mastered it. Growing up in a raging family, Amy, since she was little girl, found humor as the safety net in her life. Her natural sense of humor not only saved her from those traumatized moments in childhood but also extends  into her adulthood and becomes a big trademark of all her creative work. She believes humor can be found everywhere (personal life, workplace, and creative pursuit, etc., ) even in the weirdest place and darkest moments. She said comedy often comes from a place of pain and humor is a comedian's coping mechanism. Of course humor didn’t discriminate against backgrounds or anything. We need more humor and comedians in this world. Personally, I believe humor is the ultimate optimism and resilience built in a person’s spirit and character!There are different types of humor. Amy appreciates self-deprecating/observational versus personal attack ., She and I both believe humor should bring joy to someone, not at a cost of anyone. I really appreciate Amy fully leveraging her talents in humor and tapping into creativity, fulfilling her mission of making the whole world laugh!Here comes the most generous sharing from Amy:  Humor ( If not fortunate enough to carry it naturally lol ), can be developed and mastered as a skill! Taking a comedy class helps those who aim to be stand-up comedians, but just in a general sense, helps to increase a person’s confidence (in public speaking, etc.,) in their fields. Other tricks and tips to add humor to our daily life include journaling funny things, watching funny movies, and reading funny books, etc., Humor is a piece of muscle we should intentionally exercise and practice! It’s a dream come true for me to get to do this ‘ humor episode’ with a such kind and joyful soul! Tune in  our second episode and we are gonna  dive in  Amy’s  creative world ( Her books, ultimate goals  Zone status, ideal lifestyle, etc) Don’t miss  the joys! Connect to Amy Website: amylyleInstagram: amylyleauthorHer Book on Amazon: Amy-LyleTed Talk: finding the funny in thelifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Miki Sakai Photography creates a one of kind photoshoot journey for each of her clients. Storytelling is the heart of Miki’s craft. The way she tells a story is to capture the authentic and unposed moments in a session (family portraits, wedding, branding,etc). Drawing inspiration from everything  (traveling, movies, books, conversations with others, etc.,),  Miki describes her style as natural and candid with documentary and boutique aesthetics.   As one of her audiences, the way I connect to her photography work is that instant desire to dive into the stories behind those images she photographed.     Miki deeply values the connection she builds with her clients on an emotional and personal level, which not only leads to the final fine artwork she produced but also a unique journey her clients will memorize and enjoy. To align her artistic pursuit as an artist/ photographer with clients’ expectations, she addressed two contributing factors.  First is always to be consistent and clear with the work she presents on her Website/ Social Media platforms. Then initial face-to-face consultation intends to establish the clients’ understanding towards this is  photoshoot journey , and the good communication  carries  through  the actual shooting session and the entire process with her clients.  As Miki said, she will never photograph silently.  It’s a personal experience and emotional moment she and her client create and collaborate together, which eventually becomes a timeless artwork and memory.  I believe Miki truly fulfils her mission of building a journey to narrate a client’s story.Miki is an artistic and creative photographer and a genuine and caring character. Both her talents and personality, I believe, help to turn her passion into a business as well. As one of her clients comment to her: Miki is not just a good photographer but also a good person.  Being a sole trader  takes the challenge to into next level.  The communication /organizational  skills she had developed as an Architect translate into current business operations, but many aspects of running a business (finance, accounting, legal, etc.) all need to be addressed.  The biggest challenge for a sole trader, as Miki said, is the absence of team support and always making business decisions on her own. Pandemic took a huge toll on the industry as a whole and also individual business owner.  But Miki focused on what she can to improve her craft and scale her business.   She also believes the community is such an essential support network emotionally and professionally, especially for sole traders.  Reach-out to build a connection with people around the world has never been easier thanks to social media.  She put herself in a fellow photographer community where she can share  her journey!  I strongly resonate with her that community brings us a sense of belonging and is a significant source of motivation!Moving forward, Miki aims to expand her client base around the world, which allows her to utilize  her skills and backgrounds as someone who has lived and worked internationally.  I got so excited for her and gained so much sense of hope from her future vision and am keen to forward this positive energy to everyone. Coming to the end of this amazing conversation, Miki’s advice for making a pivot is:  do take the risks but calculated risks; it takes time to make the shift but you don’t want to live a life with regrets, and it’s really ok to shift the course of your career/life at any point.  Don’t set a limit on yourself!Connect to Miki on Instagram: mikisakaiphotography    Website:  Miki Sakai Photographylifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Growing up and moving around a number of countries, (Tokyo, NY,  London, Buenos Aires, and now Sydney), Miki describes herself  living a nomadic lifestyle as a Global Citizen.   She made a conscious decision from a young age that not being fixed to her own belief, judgments or thoughts, truly embracing diverse ways of thinking and living, because something perceives as normal in one place may not be in another part of the world.   She also becomes a person with strong curiosity who  always intrigued by new ideas, language, culture.,  I believe both her upbringing and kindness in nature built her diversity ideology and curiosity traits, which leads her to explore life possibilities infinitely.  We both also believe that we are  not confined by the external environment or conditions. There is always a outlet that will spark your curiosity and connects you to the outside world.On the flipped side, this nomadic lifestyle  put Miki experiencing inner struggle with identity sense particularly tracing back to her young teens. As she recalled, she might  try very hard to assimilate to being British or at one point try to be Japanese.  Eventually, she realized there is no need to define one identity she has, but it’s a journey to finally reaching that point where she feels comfortable being  on her own skin and just to be authentic herself. Those growth pains (fitting in cultural shock, etc) are real and there is no exemption from those struggling, but both Miki and I believe we can turn negativity into positivity,  and it’s gonna be better and it does get better. Trips to South America hands down is one of Miki’s life-defining moments, which sparks her passion for photography.   As she said, she was hooked by this wondrous landscape, the rich and diverse cultures, and the extraordinary people there.  Small sparks gradually over years grew into her biggest passion. Miki said, after gaining more life experience at a later stage of life, we can make a more informative and conscious decision about what we really want to pursue.  It is a bit too much asking for 17 years old to make a big life &career decision and it’s ok to change your mind later on along the line. (But we are not blindly encouraging anyone to switch to another lane. If you are content with your current path, stick to it!)   In Miki’s case, it took 7 years to just get qualified to be an Architect. When time costs and investment are so high, making a career pivot certainly is not a quick transition.   It took her years and years of skill-building and soul searching to finally transform from architect to photographer. Looking back to her Architect journey which she contributed a huge course of her life, it’s a bittersweet but definitely precious life experience she will cherish forever.  She shared that once you are an architect, you are always an architect.  I also believe many things like the skillset we developed in our first life also end up being useful, translated, and applied to our second life.  Tune into our PART TWO episode where we are entering Miki’s second life of her being as a photographer! Connect to Miki on Instagram: mikisakaiphotography       Website:  Miki Sakai Photography                                                                            lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Chloe has had a wide range of interests since she was a kid.  Her curiosity in nature eventually led her to land in Media/ PR industry.   Breaking into Australia's mainstream broadcasting news outlet SBS ( which is the major network to provide multilingual and multicultural radio and television services) as a migrant, her success in the local media industry truly brings diversity, representation, and inclusiveness into communities. However, success never comes easily. Back in the early days of working in a small media agency, she experienced toxic workplace culture which took a heavy toll on her confidence and self-worth. She learned one important lesson from there ‘don’t let anyone bring you down’!  Moving forward, she is always grabbing every opportunity which most of the time appears as a challenge. 30 years look back, Chloe shared one important learning is to always stay positive. With that positive  mindset in place, she is not as anxious as she used to be when facing challenges, because deep down inside, she knows it’s just a matter of time to overcome them.  I was so empowered by this as it’s a long-evolved journey through countless mistakes and failures to build inner resilience and confidence, eventually leading to that positivity mentality. Chloe also candidly addressed that she had so many failures but it’s a valuable experience to  grow from them.At this stage, of her life, she is focusing on work-life balance because a career is just part of life. she is forever on the journey of becoming a better self and never puts a limit on her pursuit. I like her beautiful saying that Life will eventually become more colourful, and we hence create a consistent drive for living our life.I also appreciate her interpretation of relationships is to gain trust from others, which as she said, is the key factor for her career success at SBS. To climb the corporate ladder, she believes just working hard is not enough, emotional intelligence also plays a crucial role, particularly in the media industry.  Gaining trust is always coming from that genuine intention and place to achieve mutual benefits and unity despite the difference in a corporate context, which also I believe, applies to any types of human connection. In my case, I fell under the mission of running this podcast because I gain trust from my guests. I value trust (which is the genuine connection) the most and I can’t fail to respond to that trust.  Stepping into a leadership role, Chloe ,who once experienced detrimental leadership in her early career, becomes the leader that creates conditions and culture for her team members to succeed and thrive at work.  She also highly appreciates mentorship which she feels privileged to be given throughout her career-building  We also got an in-depth discussion about social medial influence. As an industry insider, Chloe candidly pointed out that social media is an amazing resources pool that we can leverage to our advantage as opposed to being controlled by smart social media algorithms.  I truly agree with what she shared: we have the only thing to do in our life which is to take care of ourselves, our matters, and our relationship.  I also benefit from social media tremendously which is to connect to so many amazing talents around the world. But as Chloe said, what’s more  important is always to focus on yourself not lost in others’ highlight moments feeds. We also talked about her workout routine,  ideal lifestyle, and future career development. She is such a woman powerhouse who is truly beautiful inside out.  We are all on the same journey to become better selves towards infinite life possibilities!Connect to Chloe : Ins: chloeffk  小红书: 南半球的克洛伊lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Terry Chen pivoted his way to become a sofware engineer, standing halfway through completing his degree in management engineering. It started with side projects at university which got him into coding and programming, and eventually, he decided to pursue software engineering as his profession. To shift gear in the middle like that, it means filling a huge learning curve through trial and error and experiencing tons of interview failures, etc., Looking back on this transformation journey, his greatest learning is that it will pay off if you are persevering, working hard towards your goal.     Terry has always been a risk-taking person  but  he also calculates risks. He encouraged people to do make changes but always have a backup plan. Terry suggests, to pursue something different, you can try something new on the side as opposed to making the leap blindly. Passion- pursuit journey is not about making one big major decision but taking small steps which are building towards that end goal.  He consistently elevated his skill as a Software Engineer and landed a job offer in a big Tech company. However, he chose to work in a start-up instead of a big corporate. He values potential growth in start-ups  and the opportunity of taking on more responsibilities. At his  early career stage,  he put the pedal to the metal in his career pursuit as he still got more energy and capacity . In a long run, working in a start-up also prepares him ( Entrepreneurship mindset, process-building skill, etc.,) for running his own business one day which is his end goal.    He is also running his YouTube Channel’ Hack Bear’ which quickly drives traffic with 144k followers in around one and half years. He has been always holding his initial mind of running this Channel which is to deliver valuable content and educational information. His followers significantly benefit from his content (his genuine and generous sharing of industry insights, career advice, interview skills, investment, etc.,) which serves as a constant drive for him to create more high-quality content.  He also shared his investment strategies and asset allocation portfolio out of personal interest without any intention of teaching people how to invest.   The goal is to  inspire people to reflect on how to build a  dynamic relationship with money/ wealth.  Financial literacy should be addressed and financial management skills should be learned to build Safety Net and protection to everyone’s life.  His definition of financial freedom is to not work for money one day and pursue his true passion (running a business or full-time Youtuber, etc.,) From bottom of my heart, I want people like him (who carry that DNA of helping others) achieve financial freedom soon so he will leverage his resources and influence to make true impacts on people around him.   He hustles a lot, consistently pushing limits and exploring new possibilities which eventually lead to his end goal.  I see those seemingly opposite traits perfectly work in harmony on this young driven man. He is risky taking but also down-to-earth; He is creative but executed. I believe a  person like Terry will reach all his personal goals as well as fulfilling  the big mission of making this world better! In the end, I hope he will continue carrying on that bit of sense of humour throughout his entire life, which not only adds charismatics into his content but also helps him to go through all life hurdles!Thanks for listening to my Podcast, See you next time! Connect Terry on YouTube  : hackbear.tv      Instagram : master.terry.chen lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Authenticity and realness are rooted in Christy gene which got her easily connected to people who are real and accept her authentic side.  She also incorporated realness into core values for her company fitme which is to provide women with practical and doable nutrition/ exercise coaching. Christy addressed that the absence of realness instill a fake version of success into people’s belief systems.  As a consequence, some people may measure their real-life against someone’s highlight feed or aim at short-term wins shared on social media. However, there is no shortcut or fast track to fitness and a healthy lifestyle. As a certified coach, her ultimate goal is to help her clients achieve a sustainable and long-term outcome, which essentially comes back to building confidence and creating consistency.  Approaches behind her coaching philosophy are to pick up small and repeatable habits every day and turn them into life routines which leads to fundamental changes in their real life. Growing up as an athletic girl, Christy was not particularly struggling with body weight. However, Life threw some real punches on her (10 knee surgeries and 40 pounds of weight gain.,) Although she enjoys being a Mum, a professional, she was not happy about her body anymore. She once did all of the diets,  left her frustration only. Luckily, she encountered a good coach and another peer in the gym where she was educated about healthy eating habits which missed in her early upbringing and exercise in the way she never thought. This transformation experience also led her to embark on her coaching journey in fitness/ nutrition. She further discovered that in the fitness industry, many complicated strategies are designed for professional athletes, bodybuilders, but are hard to apply to regular persons who need to build daily routine and consistency. Diet gimmicks will not be practical and sustainable either. Once again, her coaching focuses on helping people to do small and simple things consistently, coming from the intention of taking care of themselves rather than body punishment. Only when people shift mindset and perspective, behaviours will change. We further touched on the body image issue. As Christy said, many fit people still have body image issues. It’s so true that addressing external only still won’t fix your body image problem. Weight loss is part of building a positive image, and we believe positive body image is also a reflection of confidence and should be built within. Connection and resilience are the other two values in fitme. I really like Christy’s beautiful interpretation of community. Community connects people who shared the same purposes and values.  Finding the right community will create momentum for yourself and forward energy with each other. Christy also pointed out we may fit in different communities as  our seasons change. In fitme community, resilience is the shared value that drives her clients to achieve a shared goal (actual fitness) even when hardship and hurdles kick in life! We also talk about her podcast fitme coffee talk! Each episode is 5-10 mins long with key messages delivered almost every day. She also shared strategies   ‘habits stacking’ that she learned from James Clear’s book ‘ Atomic habits’.  If you want to build new habits, try to attach with your existing habits!   Another effective coping strategy to achieve work-life balance she shared is to set up priority within day/ week and get the priority done. The rest is just a bonus.   I am strongly on board that own your words and get the priority done within timeframe you set up and build the trust relationship with yourself! Website: https://www.fitmecommunity.com/Instagram: lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Starting ballet at five years old, Fenella nurtured her love and passion for ballet through years of professional training and dancing. Back to her early training periods, younger Fenella encountered a few negative teachers who questioned her pursuit, telling her to give up. Negative comments like that (particularly from instructors) can severely hinder a young dancer’s confidence, and Fenella was very confused about whether to stick to it. As she is getting older, she can finally look back to see through the fact that, she has always been doing well with receiving scholarships and many wonderful opportunities. Most importantly, she truly enjoys ballet and dancing.  Now, as a ballet instructor herself, she is aiming at instilling a long-lasting impression of the craft’s joy and beauty to kids/ young dancers. She turns her negative experience into a positive drive, which also makes her an instructor with a mission:  to create an open and inclusive environment for everyone to enjoy ballet for recreation and joy.  As the first step, she opened her YouTube Channel BalletColourful(with Fenella) where anyone can access the free platform to enter into the Ballet world. Moving forward, she is designing her teaching programs and running in-person sessions tailer to students’ needs with building students’ confidence as the key. Ultimately, she believes her role is to guide students along the way to achieve their individual goals (whether it’s pursuing as professionals or dancing for fun). I also truly believe, with her talents and teaching philosophy, Fenella will be the best instructor to kids/young leaners feel connect to her! Upbring also plays a key role in her character-building. Both of her parents told her the value of opening herself to the outside world and filling in life with different experiences and colours. Living overseas for many years ( NY, Tokyo, Shanghai, Etc.,), she immersed herself in local day-to-day living, which, she said, was the most exciting part of living overseas. I really appreciate her ability to sense small joys (do grocery shopping in the local market, etc.) and to blend into day-to-day living. That ability and character make her a true worldwide traveller from my lens.  The audition story she shared is very empowering. I believe self-grow comes from self-learn and push from others. Without her Mum’s encouragement, she may not return to do the same audition again. But it also took tremendous strength and courage for her to go back and try again. As Fenella said, it’s essential to surround yourself with people who bring you positive influence and push you to step out of your comfort zone sometimes, meanwhile, we also need to give us as many opportunities as possible. Perseverance is the key to success. But sometimes, there are many factors beyond our control. Grab the chance when it presents, regardless of results or outcome. Fenella said she wants to live a life without regrets, which drives her to unlock all her potentials, always acting on what she is interested in and passionate about. I strongly resonate what she said:  life comes with ups/downs and highs/lows, so treat yourself and others kindly. Life is short, and time is limited. To create an abundant, meaningful, and joyful life, really believe in yourself; You are capable; You do have something wonderful to offer to others! I also believe while we are doing what we enjoy, we also get help someone in certain way, which adds value and motivation in our life-pursuit journey.          Connect to Fenella         Balletcolourful--Instagram   BalletColourful (with Fenella) - YouTubelifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Growing up watching movies every day, Neda developed her initial desire to become an actress.  She did drama courses and played in school, which she enjoyed.  But she met an actor who told her it takes a burning desire to become an actress, which she didn't see herself possess. Then her stronger desire to be involved in the filming industry behind the scenes drove her to study a bachelor in media specializing in television and filming. The process was fun and creative where she got travelled around Australia and made shot videos, working with industry insiders.  Even back then, the media industry was just as harsh as today to break in, and the reality was that she couldn't find a paid job.  On top of that, she knew, deep down inside, her desire to pursue a career in television and filming got out of her system somewhere along the way already. For a while, she felt like a silly dreamer, wanting to be a film director/Screenwriter, or late bloomer, wondering what path she could stick to. Sometimes, it takes more time and a bit of soul searching to figure out the true path. In Neda's case, watching a documentary about the animal activism of Henry Spira became her life-changing moment. This time, she finally found her burning desire to save animals in suffering and torture. Just overnight, she made two major decisions: stay vegan and apply to study law the very next day morning. She aimed to make a fundamental change in animal protection and welfare through a proper avenue which is the legal avenue.  When there was a burning desire applied, Neda stuck through her law study which was tremendously difficult. She also joined the animal law committee for years, which directly contributed to wildlife conservation. But any revolutionary change through law and justice is a daunting process which takes even more than one generation to achieve. Practically speaking, as a law graduate now, Nada was given more career choices. She was a suburban lawyer for a few years. Then she became a mum of two kids.  Being a stay-home Mum for years, she realized getting back to a corporate law firm will no long serve her needs. Her strong attachment to kids prompted her to make another bold decision: Set up her own practice as a sole practitioner. It allowed her to stay at home with kids as well as continuing her profession.  It seems that She perfectly strikes that life-work balance, but one thing you need to know about Neda is she always plans and prepares.  Her life motto 'always step out of comfort zone' guided her entire journey. She started small and got the office all set up even before her first client came.  Stepping out of her comfort zone also helped her find the niche market, which was the key factor of her business success.  Due to her religion, she has an advantage in making a will for the Baha'i community, which got her to hit the ground running. Knowing her expertise and service can contribute to her community serves as a sustainable drive force of her practice. This year is her 10th year as a sole practitioner.As her kids grew up a bit, she embarked on a new chapter in fitness. It all started with her unexpected love for Zumba dancing after the first try.  Gym or workout is not a natural fit with Neda, and she never pictured herself in dancing,  let alone being an instructor. She enjoyed so much and committed to studying again, becoming a Zumba instructor.  Her philosophy of ‘constantly pushing herself out of comfort zone' continues working on her to be up against new change, and she is about to become aquatic instructor! Teaching Zumba or aquatic may still be her side hustles at this stage. She is already planning her retirement life as a full-time instructor. She is a great fit in this podcast because she truly designs her lifestyle that serves her needs at different stages.Thanks for listening to my podcast.lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Chemistry has come into Joseph's Life naturally from learning it as a subject in school to pathway into his early career as a food scientist and perfume engineer. Tracing back to 1994, he built his chocolate brand' 'Kimberley Chocolate' with a mission to make high-quality chocolates accessible to our community. 'Kimberley Chocolate' features high-quality handmade chocolates with the use of pure chocolate and fresh cream only. On top of that, 'Kimberley Chocolate' reached another innovative breakthrough by adding local Australian flavours (chilli, lemon myrtle, and quandong), which gained massive popularity among residents.  His business is rooted within the community from the start point, specifically, selling at local markets at a reasonable price.  As an award-winning chocolate brand, Joseph didn't push to scale his chocolate business for massive commercial produce and sale.  Sticking to his initial intention, which is to make high-quality Chocolate, Joseph kept his business at the crafted stage but evolved his business through making his own chocolate. Another side of his Life is to make Perfume.  Perfume is pure chemistry. Joseph went back to pick up perfume again, deciding to make his own Perfume.  I am so touched by the craftsman spirit Joseph represents: the lifetime dedication and commitment to their passions. Craftspersons like Joseph indeed contribute to Australia's cultural abundance, exquisiteness and uniqueness significantly!Joseph believes if you know something deep enough, you will want to impart your knowledge. If you are also interested in people, you will want to become a teacher.  Joseph has transformed his passion into teaching people to make their own chocolates and Perfume at this stage of his Life.  Being an educator fits his character perfectly and enables him to pass on his years of in-depth knowledge and skill in making chocolates and Perfume to others through his genuine and generous sharing. Joseph said When it comes to making Perfume, just choose whatever you like. The fragrance will organize and plan itself and work out in its way.  But Life is different with fragrances evaporation. Life can 't work it out its way without self-guide. Joseph shared more his life-guide lessons: Learning through mistakes is the path to success. Adversity builds characters. You are the only one who can pull Yousef out it of the dark place. As he said, we only get more questions while we keep searching. There won't be a final answer. The sense of satisfaction and joy brought by doing what we are passionate about can be part of answers along the way.I think Life consists of different phases. We should truly experience every single moment in each phase and enjoy every ride. Keeping searching serves as a sustainable source of drive to live our Life to the fullest at a different phase of our Life.Thanks for listening to my podcast. See you next time!  Connect to JosephWebsite: kimberleychocolatesWebsite: zouzoucoffeelifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Henry Feng is an Artist and Entreprenur based in Sydney, running his fashion Brand' 'Sumi Threads'.  After spending eight years in University with one step away from completing his Ph.D., Henry realized working in academia was not his true calling.  Stumbling upon a tattoo apprenticeship course by accident opened his eye and mind to understand art ranges that are much wider and broader than he ever imagined. He also came to his first revolutionary understanding of pursuing art through skill-based practice. Further stepping onto art training in an art school, he was connected to the convention, which led him to reach another revolutionary mindset shift in pursuing art as a career. Not only can art-skills be developed and progressed through practice, art- careers also can be built in various forms (being self-employed and freelance, etc.). He was also really empowered by the fact that all he needed was just a piece of paper and a pencil to start drawing, which was his first step to pursue art as a career. He had to do lots of soul-searching and broke lots of his comfort zone to see what it means to be an artist and what is possible in the art world. He said pursuing art is the best decision he ever made because he also finds his roots and identity in this creative process: his rooted love in his gene for Asian art(calligraphy, woodblock, prints, folklore, manga, etc.,).  His art creation becomes unique and sustainable with the sense of id entity underpinned behind it.  He further paved to create his fashion brand 'Sumi Threads' and leveraged different avenues (Convention, Online shop, etc.,) to sell clothing with prints he designed. He is fully oriented and focused on his art journey artistically and professionally. Then Covid kicked in. No doubt has it impacted his business devastatingly as his main business focus is on those conventions, shows which to attend in person. While they all got cancelled, he again had to shift back to online, which required him to be quickly adaptive to the new business dynamics.  Despite hurdles and frustrations internally and externally, he has continued his artistic journey with determination to reach revolutionary milestones one after another (as he always did). The underlying drive behind it is that he gains self-agency, autonomy, and independence through art, which are the values he truly appreciates, also not many alternatives in life he could find in accessing that. Henry's story is so empowering because he is a true living example of 'it's never too late '. I'd like to end this episode with his own sum-up of his life journey up until now: Starting from Uni, I thought I was gonna be academia, I thought I was gonna work in Uni. I thought I was gonna be a scientist, doing research. But that original plan was completely out of the window. I never in a million years would have predicted or guessed I would be doing something artistic now, definitely not in this kind of capacity and scale, either. Again, traditional kind of understanding when it comes to art or creative pursuit is always unstable or difficult. It is in some way, but at the end of the day, you develop your skills, you believe in yourself, you really try to apply those skills, stay true to yourself.  I feel like you can go further than you think you can. So, it doesn't matter how old you are. It's never too late to start.Thanks for listening to my podcast. See you next time!Connect Henry Website: sumithreadsInstagram: henryfengart     sumithreadslifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Leecy finds her true meaning and value as a UX designer, which combines her passion for technology and design to produce a product /service that improves quality of people's lives. She followed her inner voice, making a significant jump from quitting her job in Motorola in Beijing to study at Parsons, eventually landing her feet in Google as a UX designer in NY. Carrying the nature of empathy and sympathy, she has already possessed one key trait of preparing herself to thrive in her industry. Being empathetic conditions her to put users' needs into her centre of design thinking in the creative process. She considers herself a designer, which is a bit more practical role (focusing on others' needs) versus an artist who is more self-expression in their artwork. But in either way, both designer and artist serve the same purpose of connecting people. She further pointed out being collaborative /telling a good story also plays a crucial role in unlocking potential of doing this job.  Her faith deeply touches me that the next generation will be born with higher emotional intelligence and more empathy. It's lucky to have a designer like Leecy, who is on a mission with a vision to bridging Tech and Design to build a better-connected world.  She also shared her current life chapter at entering her 30s. Looking back to her bitter-sweet life journey, she is growing into a wiser person with abundant self-love and self-compassion who got life stories to tell. She is no longer aiming for external validation or anxious to be successful. She is now shining in her unique and authentic way. I was truly empowered when she said she is now comfortable with the fact that life comes with ups and downs /twists and turns. 'Bring it on' isn't just her brave statement towards greater hurdles or challenges on the way but also her enthusiasm and curiosity towards life possibilities.  She shared 'at my age, I truly want to provide myself to be a free person by protecting my own time, my own money, and my own decisions'. She is taking full ownership of making her life decisions, nurturing herself to be a strong woman, physically, emotionally, and intellectually. We also dig into the topic “confidence”. Our upbringing from an Asian family tends to instill the mindset of ‘not enough' in us. Its impact extends into our adult life. We are driven by becoming better, so we often self-reflect on what we are not good at or not do well. Leecy shared some practical tips such as 'writing down what we have achieved or others' complements, which becomes accumulated moments of reminding us “how amazing we are” instead of being over self-critical.  Also, we should give permission of 'not being perfect' to ourselves, which  enables us to be more insightful to see other's highlights and strengths.  We should also not play 'problem-terminator' role. It means we should not always  blame ourselves when things go wrong  ( sometimes, it’s not our problem).      Leecy further addressed that as a minority living in a foreign country, being assertive means being authentic yourself from appearance outside to your voice inside. I am also truly related to her about improving confidence underneath through keeping working and pushing.  She shared that "just genuinely believe you can make it then you can". Regardless of results, the effort you put in always made you stronger! This powerful and conscious statement projects on my own motto: Sometimes, I may still carry fear and doubts, not confident, but I will not let it stand in my way of moving forward! I want to end this episode with what Leecy said "the world is big enough to hold my dream, I never thought this could happen, but life always surprise us in the most impossible way. That's why it's so amazing! The best is yet to come! Website: leecy.lilifedesignerwithjingyuchen
In Part two, Leecy shared her experience in hosting 'Talks at Google' with Yiying lu. She took the plunge, putting herself out there as a representative of our unique culture, with the mission to bridging  gaps for deeper human connection.  I strongly resonate with what she said: Hate comes from ignorance and fear of being unknown. When we are genuinely and openly sharing our stories with others, the possibility of building understanding and connection that transcends differences of culture, race, language, etc., appears on the surface. We further addressed that being a global citizen enables us to hold our roots more deeply instead of ditching our identity. Acknowledging who we are/ where we are from protects our uniqueness and affords us a sense of belonging.  Leecy and I have a similar background of growing up in China, proudly carrying our upbringing made who we are, also have the privilege in embracing diversity living in a foreign country. We are glad to introduce our culture into the world as well as opening  to different cultures  without judgment or comparison. We also consolidate our sense of identity by, as leecy said, upholding our opinions and being critical thinkers.  Leecy also pointed out that learning a new language contributes to fostering critical thinking. Leecy and I advocate for language learning (She is learning French and I speak Japanese). We both agree that language serves as a communication tool, leading us to connect its cultural/value system associated with this language on a deeper level. Also, tracing back to the original language helps us not to lost in translation.Leecy also shared her insights on decluttering and minimalism versus consumerism.  She believes each object serves meaning and purpose.  If left unused or unattended at the corner of our place, it  flags to us that this object fails to serve its purposes or meaning on our hands (the object's functional use or brings our inner joy, etc). We may want to declutter them by giving away or donating. It leads to Leecy's next great point of making an intentional purchase. Leecy suggests that we should evaluate those parameters built into our purchase system, which should not be based on promotion or impulses but based on how often we use and how much we like. Decluttering comes with time and emotional cost, which could be mitigated by making each purchase as meaningful as possible. Another great tip is to buy more consumable products while buying less clothes. I am so on board with buying more consumable products. I will purchase or even hoard products I will commit to finishing up (skincare, candles, bath salts, etc.,). Leecy particularly addressed renting service as an alternative to owning the piece when it comes to fashion shopping. When we gradually establish our style in fashion, we may make more secure and precise purchases. But the downside is it limits us to specific styling. Renting services allows for room to experiment our potential looks, which is a nice way of discovering something new in ourselves!We further expanded our topic to 'luxury products'. We both truly appreciate its aesthetic beauty and craftsmanship spirit, but we don't believe luxury feeling comes from luxury products nor fulfill ourselves through luxury brands. Our value system prevails over the consumerism traps.  Leecy added that she came a long way to reach this point of purchasing by heart, not by price. The purchasing system / value system she is holding now is a result of years of hard-working and growing consciousness. I am so related to that as I've also reached the stage of making conscious purchase with my value system underpinned.  I believe this is a part of being conscious about managing my finance, which is another essential level of taking control of our life.Website: leecy.lilifedesignerwithjingyuchen
It was such a huge honor to have an interview with Content Producer/ Musician Rowan Fitzpatrick! He was also my classmate from the Radio and Journalism class last year!  It’s a fun and light episode where we had so many laughs and flashback memories!Since graduating last year, Rowan has continued his radio journey as a volunteer in a community radio station. As a content producer, he has transitioned from a morning breakfast show to a radio sports show called ‘across the park.’ He truly enjoys producing sport-related content as he is also a big fan of the sport. His connection to the radio may trace back to his childhood as a ‘pretending news presenter’, then randomly had water tasting at his current workplace for news broadcasting, which led him to enroll in the radio course where we first met! We had so much fun on the radio station last year, and he applied everything he learned in class to actual practice since then!He is also a musician and a local band member: ‘ Heart of Mind.’  He shared his band history and story in this episode. I truly feel honored to have the opportunity to fit some fantastic singles from his band into this episode ( Moonlight, Fire), which makes this episode so unique and fun!  The music industry took a massive hit by this pandemic (even before the pandemic). We also dig in local artists/musicians working conditions, advocating for more national support.  Music has always played a healing and therapeutic role in my life, and I believe music also does magic on many people. While I am finalizing this episode, Sydney is entering the third month of lockdown. Thanks for Rowan’s genuine and humorous sharing, I had so much fun and laughter in producing this episode. I want to send this joy to anyone who may listen to it. We will get through this difficult time because a world with music is so beautiful, and a life with passion is so fulfilling!Thanks for listening to my podcast today. See you next time!Connect to Rowan Instagram : rowan091                              heartofmindband                         across_the_parklifedesignerwithjingyuchen
It’s a huge a honor to have Bella joining my podcast today who is a creative strategist based in NYC. From discovering  her strong passion in art as a kid to choosing a major or career in specific, she has always been a risk- taker person who makes her own major life decision, regardless of different voices all the way along. We see her living her dreaming NY life at this moment, thriving and shinning on her stage. But the story behind it touches me to the deepest. While exposing herself to unexpected cultural shock and unknown knowledge pouring in, she managed to have the best time of studying a niche major in Brown University. The tremendous effort she put in can be described as ‘crazy’: truly absorb art theory in class and take four part-time jobs outside class in Galleries/ PR companies, etc., Although she was once only one step away from her dream offer, reality didn’t set her up for a one-way straight ticket.  She didn’t give in setback but took another path to get back to her passionate point. It’s not a smooth transition into where she is now, but she never limits herself to what she has achieved. With a long-term vision towards future, she is consciously enjoying current moments with a fearless spirit and curious eye and exploring more potential life possibilities. This girl also combines her feminine outside with resilience inside, formulating her one captivating quality. We dig into her interpretation of femininity and further touch on ‘gender equality ‘women’s empowerment, ‘mutual respect’ ‘new power structure landscape’.  To build a united and equal community and society, we believe both women and men should not be confined to stereotypical roles based on gender. Everyone should access the equal right to choose their lifestyle and life path. I am also personally attached to the topic ‘Loneliness’ as Lockdown in Sydney comes at the end of the second month. Pandemic took a massive toll on individuals and the world as a whole on so many levels. We have no other options but strive to survive and grow ourselves. Bella and I luckily reached a certain point of enjoying solitude and loneliness, which took us to the next stage of self-discovery and self-care.  Meanwhile, these seemingly opposite elements, enjoying loneliness and seeking for deep human connection, can work together beautifully in harmony. Bella’s passion for other aspects of life also manifests through her many hobbies (writing, painting, reading, music, photography, fashion, etc.). We both appreciate the essential role of hobbies in our lives, which connects her to the world and brings me a sense of identify and belonging. If you see this girl’s strict daily schedule featuring high self-discipline, you will come to realize how she is genuinely counting on every minute of designing her artistic lifestyle. But she firmly believes each person is their own life designer with their own life formula.  Sticking to our inner voice matters the most. But connecting to a person who is like-minded, as Bella said, also reinforces and reassures us that we are on the right track. I truly appreciate her echo to my podcast’s intention and thank her for making me feel more determined to enjoy my ride on designing my unique life journey. Thanks for listening to my podcast. See you next time!Conntect to Bella : Website: https: bellajiangInstagram:  itsbellajiang 小红书: 一只纽约文艺狗 Bellalifedesignerwithjingyuchen
Haruka is a Japanese and English speaking MC/Presenter/Voiceover Artist based in Sydney. In today's episode, Haruka shared her life transformation journey that truly touched my heart. What impressed me the most is that she has always been her life decision-maker, which takes tremendous courage, strong willpower, and most importantly, actions.  We see her now as an inspiring powerhouse which she is. She has also been through just as much growing pain and struggling as any others from her young teenagerhood to current motherhood periods.When she was no longer just content with being a full-time Mum, she stepped out of her comfort zone to build up her business as a MC (Master of Ceremonies) and Voice-over artist. She may encounter her 'mean to do career role' overnight, but it's an outcome of years of building up of her life experience and parenting influences she received.  Essentially, she decided to confront her self-lost and to question her life direction. Using her voice and language to serve people becomes not only her true calling but also becomes the way she wants to be remembered by her kids: A Mum who is living intentionally, serving people with true passion. Even for a second, I thought she was a natural, confident champion, but, as she said herself, she also came a long way to build her self-esteem and confidence. When her beloved grandmother passed away, it hit her with the ultimate life question: life is so short, and how do I want to live my life? All her fears and self-doubts were gone at that moment when she thought it through, which eventually led her to embark on her MC journey.Growing up in the culture of putting others' feelings first while suppressing their own emotions in Japan, she is also a strong advocator of raising people's awareness in mental health, wishing to have more hotlines or support services accessible to Japanese. Writing letters to her family members and friends became her tradition which she found a great way of expressing her feelings. Due to her personal experience of being bullied at school back to her young teenagerhood period, she feels strongly about helping children experience difficult times or traumatic events.  The helpless feelings she once experienced impelled her to make up her mind of reaching out to those struggling children and guiding them in the right direction. Therefore, her ultimate goal is to build up a platform where children feel safe and supportive of being open.  A person like Haruka is the key messenger here to spread the words and lead the actions to address those social issues.  I believe individuals' power and voice matter. In the end, I want to say this conversation is an amazing encounter with a strong spirit and beautiful soul, which makes me feel the hope and beauty towards humanity and life.Thanks for listening to my podcast. See you next time.Conntect Haruka :Instagram  : haruka_bilingualemcee YouTube: Haruka’s MC Channellifedesignerwithjingyuchen
In today’s episode, Sherman_mommy shared her life-transformation story from self-focus only to loving others. Living in a fast-paced and stressful place like HK, She was once a ‘selfish person’ ( as she described herself) who just aimed at being more competitive at work  and getting better herself. As the biggest turning point of her life, becoming a Mum gave her the new power which not only enables her to take responsibility of new life but also to take care of others (Teammates, Clients, etc.,).  She experienced similar concerns, self-doubt, and hesitation just like any other Mums before having this baby, but turns out being a Mum makes her so much happier than ever. The mindset shift from receiving to giving also impacts other aspects of her life positively. She is even more thriving at her career development as she is more carefully treating every case and nurturing each client of her. As she said, self-growth is a life-long dynamic journey transcends age limit. Now she is at the stage of advocating for using women’s power to breed love as she believes loving others is the underlying drive to fulfill self-value and gain happiness. I am truly related to that point . I  believe that Loving others means being brave, responsible, and giving while risks are being rejected, hurt, and disappointed. Even so, I feel  seeking deep human connection is approval of living this only one life with utmost effort.  She also addressed life-choice is very personal which can’t be copied/ Pasted.She also shared her parenting insights through her practice and studying in this area. She particularly pointed out she wants to help her baby develop some hobbies for its own sake, not for its potential fame. Having life hobbies not just for babies but also for ourselves is extremely important for our life-long well-being. We could still create a meaningful and fulfilling life with hobbies as accompanies, when the essence of life is boring.We further dug into topics such as ' time management skills'  ‘ consumerism’ ‘ how to live an authentic life’, etc.,  She found she is happier than many people she met in HK who only focus on glory moments and are overwhelmed by the pressure of exceptionality. However, those people often ignore those ordinary days spent on preparing for the glory moments. Essentially, she believes we should improve our ability to sense joy in our ordinary life which can be sustainable instead of pursuing happiness which is a transient moment.  She is strongly open to the beauty of being ordinary as she believes embracing ordinary life is the best way to reach exceptionality: For most people, when given ordinary opportunities and encouragement, a truly exceptional talent will surface.Thanks for listening to my podcast today. See you next time!lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
During the lockdown, I often recalled what happened to my life in the last 6 months. Apart from work, I also had lots amazing life experience involved key words such as  Zumba, Podcast, Musical, Dining etc., They were all fun and exciting which they were, but what you didn't know behind is I was in a self- battle every day. It took tremendous strength and courage to make every new attempt in putting myself out there for the unknown outcome, potential setback, and rejection. On the flip side, I also gained fun, joy, and a sense of fulfillment in return.In today’s girl talk, I strongly resonated with those girls’ self-growth journey, particularly Living in pandemic uncertainty.  We shared tips in going through lockdown, for instance, be grateful for our health, be open to others, stay connected, focus on achieving our goal, be self-affirmation to every small progress we made, etc., However, those emotions: anxiety, fear and a moment of overwhelming also exist all the time. Unfortunately, there is not a 'one size fits in all' solution or a ultimate cure to unravel life’s emotional ups and downs, but as WanJia shared with us: Every situation in life is temporary,  so when life is good, make sure you enjoy it and received it fully. When life is not so good, remember it will not last forever and a better day is one the way.I am so glad to hear Wanjia is finally embarking on her life-pursuit journey with a determination to becoming a professional Zumba instructor; Ailsa stepped out of her comfort zone to embrace professional and personal challenges. Each story from my guests becomes a precious encounter to me. I truly treasure each encounter in my daily life because that all built into my life-design journey.Thanks for listening to my podcast, see you next time!  lifedesignerwithjingyuchen
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