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You all have heard about Josh's new podcast called Wholly Ourselves. Today, we're sharing an episode from Wholly Ourselves. In this episode, Josh is joined by Simon Kent Fung, host of the Dear Alana podcast, to unpack the upcoming U.S. Supreme Court case Chiles v. Salazar, which challenges Colorado’s ban on conversion therapy for minors. You can subscribe to hear more from the Wholly Ourselves podcast wherever you subscribe to podcasts. Read Josh's Amicus Brief: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-539/370617/20250825134315970_Chiles%20v%20Salazar%20Brief%20of%20Amici%20Curiae%20Gregory%20Coles%20Joshua%20Proctor%20and%20Bill%20Henson.pdfBecome a Patron of Wholly Ourselves: https://patreon.com/whollyourselvesSubscribe to Josh's Monthly Substack: https://whollyourselves.org/#substackCredit: Our Theme Song is "Leave it All Behind" by The Transient Friends
Josh is joined by Jacob today to talk about their experiences at the Side B Retreat, which is the oldest ongoing in-person gathering of Side B Christians. The 2025 Side B Retreat will be outside of Cincinnati, OH on November 7-10. You can register at www.sidebretreat.com. Registration includes the retreat, housing, and meals.
As promised, we are releasing the bonus episodes originally recorded for our patreon page here for your enjoyment. This episode was recorded directly after S2E1 which was the first episode as a cohost team. You can listen to Josh's new podcast Wholly Ourselves at www.whollyourselves.org/podcastJoin the Wholly Ourselves Patreon page to receive extra content at www.patreon.com/whollyourselves
A Side B Collective is taking over the podcast! Josh wrote a piece for the Collective titled "The Case for Civil Marriage in Celibate Partnerships". Chase and Shelby, from A Side B Collective, interview him as a follow up to the written piece. BEFORE YOU LISTEN, please read the piece at asidebcollective.substack.com.
What does it look like to be spiritually formed as a queer person who follows Christ?
Dive into six transformative spiritual movements, designed to help LGBT+ and same-sex-attracted Christians integrate their faith and sexuality. Join us starting on April 7th for seven episodes exploring LGBT+ spiritual formation and emotional health. Learn more at whollyourselves.org/becomingwholepodcast.
Follow the podcast to hear the episodes as soon as they come out on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
The time has come. All the cohosts including, season 2 co-host, Mary, and our intern, Jacob come back together to close out the Life on Side B series. In this final episode, the hosts share memorable moments from the podcast, and acknowledge each other's contributions, and express hopes for the future of the Side B community. Josh closes out the episode with a special message for listeners that you won't want to miss.
Check out the video of the episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1CZj2b7izo
For the last episode before the series finale, this is Henry's episode and he decided to sit down with Josh and Grant to look over the last five years. They reflect on the transformative impact of the podcast on their lives. They share personal growth experiences, memorable episodes, and the misconceptions that often arise about their identities and beliefs. As we near the end, the cohosts share messages of gratitude for the listeners and each other.
Josh and Elizabeth sit down with Taylor, Kris, and Remi to hear about their experience as trans Christians due to the current cultural and political shifts in the United States and around the world. Each of their voices brings amazing depth to the complexity of the situation and calls cisgender Christians both in the Side B queer community and throughout the Church to advocacy for our trans siblings.
To learn more about the murder of Sam Nordquist, check out this article.
On the reference about Russell Moore by Josh, it was not a Christianity Today article but an NPR interview. Check it out here.
We have arrived to our final follow up interviews of the season. Josh is talking with Paolo Errico to discuss more about vulnerability, sexual integrity, and personal growth. They explore the struggle with shame, the necessity of setting boundaries, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery and integrity.
Check out S4E09 to hear Paolo's previous episode on the podcast.
Then (starting at 29:01), Josh sits down with Michelle Newbold and Dr. Julia Sadusky about their experiences on the podcast, the evolution of their thoughts on sexuality and inclusivity, and the importance of supporting the queer community. They discuss Dr. Sadusky's new book series on talking about sexuality with kids.
Check out S1E03 & S2E10 to hear Michelle's previous episodes. Check out S2E04, S2E08, & S5E12 to hear Dr. Sadusky's previous episodes.
Bekah is back and its time for her episode. She is joined by Josh and Henry as she shares an update on her life since working as a "professional gay." The three of them discuss the complexities of navigating personal and professional identities within ministry. The conversation explores themes of authenticity, the pressures of public ministry, the influence of donors, and the importance of caring for the Side B community.
Our friend, Nhat, joins Josh and Christian to talk about his experience living with HIV. This is a topic which listeners wrote in asking to hear more on and we are honored to share Nhat and his story. Christian, as well, gives information from his work in HIV.
Grant is joined by Scott Herr as they reflect on the evolution of the Side B community and share insights about the challenges and growth experienced over the years. They touch on key publications that have shaped the conversation, and the ongoing tensions faced by individuals navigating their faith and sexuality.
As we continue follow up interviews with previous guests, Josh sits down with Christian Johnston to discuss his personal journey since his episode on sexual abuse. They reflect on the impact of sharing their stories, the importance of consent, and the need for vigilance in personal interactions. The conversation also touches on sexual health awareness.
Check out S3E11 to hear Christian's previous episode on the podcast.
Then (starting at 31:00), Henry talks with Greg Webb as they discuss the evolution of the podcast, its impact on the Side B movement, and the historical moments that have shaped their experiences. They explore the importance of centering diverse voices, the complexities of donor-based ministry, and the personal growth within the community.
Check out S3E8 & S3E23 to hear Gregg's previous appearances on the podcast.
Elizabeth is joined by Ray and Jean-Noël as they discuss LGBTQ missions. Elizabeth and Jean discuss their experience at the Lausanne Congress 2024. Each of them brings wisdom into what it truly means to live out the message of Jesus in an LGBTQ cultural context. If you would like to learn more, check out www.kaleidoscopeusa.org.
Today, we have another series of follow up interviews with guests who previously appeared on the podcast. Henry sits down with Art to follow up on topics of committed friendship and racial justice.
Check out S2E13, S2E14, and S4E13 to hear Art's previous interviews on the podcast.
Then (starting at 40:57), Josh talks with Matt and his partner Jason about their partnership. Matt is back after appearing on season 1 and Jason is on for the first time. They talk about celibate partnerships, what they have learned and the challenges they have faced.
Check out S1E15 to hear Matt's previous interview.
Today, Darren Calhoun and Lin Melone are back on the podcast to talk with Josh about polyamory. This is Josh's episode. Listen to hear why he chose this topic and why he feels it is important to cover before the podcast ends. The three talk about what polyamory is, the misconceptions, the pitfalls, and the intersections of celibacy and polyamory. This is probably a new topic for you so it is okay to take it in strides as you feel able to listen.
This is the first of our follow up interviews with guests from popular and impactful episodes throughout the history of the podcast. Today, Josh sits down with Meg Baatz and Grant talks with Johana Marie Williams. We ask them where they are now in life and what more they have learned about the topics they originally shared about on the podcast.
To listen to Meg's original episodes, search for...
S1E1 | Meg on Communal Living
S2E15 | Paul, Ray, Meg, and Ed on Race, Justice, and the Kingdom of God
To listen to Johana Marie's episodes, search for...
S3E24 | Johana-Marie and Shelby on Racial Inclusion in Side B (w/ Sarah)
S4E12 | Johana Marie on Doubt and Deconstruction (w/Bekah and Grant)
Learn more about Meg's work at kaleidoscopeusa.org
Learn more about Grant and Johana Marie's project - A Side B Collective - at asidebcollective.substack.com
This season, each cohost has an episode where they get to talk about whatever they want to cover before the podcast ends. This is Ashley's episode and she is joined by Elizabeth and Meg Baatz as they talk about boundaries.
Thank you as well to Angel for sending in the listener message today. If you would like to record a message, go to lifeonsideb.com/finalseason.
Our sixth and final season has begun! To start us off, we are doing something we have never done before: a crossover episode with another podcast! Ashley and Josh are joined by TJ Espinoza and David Frank from the New Kinship podcast. Half of the episode is here on our podcast and the other is on their podcast. We interview them about their podcast and their thoughts on where Side B is going. Then in the second half, they interview us about Life on Side B, the final season, and what is coming down the road.
You can listen to the second half by searching for New Kinship podcast on whatever platform you are listening. Or through this link: https://open.substack.com/pub/newkinship/p/55-life-on-side-b-the-final-season
We are back! We missed you! Josh is back with Eve Tushnet who has some big news to share especially for Catholic listeners. Also Josh has good news about Season 6. We can't wait to be back with you soon for Season 6!