Loving Without Boundaries

EPISODE 278 Interview with Jessica Fern & David Cooley. Jessica Fern holds a Master’s degree in Conflict Resolution, is a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, a trained Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner, and an integrative therapist drawing on 25 years of experience in somatic, narrative, psychotherapeutic, and spiritual healing modalities. She is the internationally recognized author of Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma, and Nonmonogamy, The Polysecure Workbook, and Polywise: A Deeper Dive Into Navigating Open Relationships. Through her international private practice, Jessica works with individuals, couples, and multi-partner relationships to break free from reactive patterns, cultural conditioning, insecure attachment, and past trauma—empowering them to embody new possibilities in life and love.  David Cooley is a professional Restorative Justice facilitator, diversity and privilege awareness trainer, and bilingual cultural broker. He is the creator of the Restorative Relationship Conversations model, a process that transforms interpersonal conflict into deeper connection, intimacy and repair. In his private practice, David specializes in working with non-monogamous and LGBTQ partnerships, incorporating a variety of modalities including trauma-informed care, attachment theory, somatic practices, narrative theory, and mindfulness-based techniques. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 277 Interview with Lola Phoenix. Lola Phoenix is an American born writer living in Sweden, working within digital marketing while trying to find an agent to represent their fiction work. Lola is the author of “The Anxious Person's Guide to Non-Monogamy”, “The Non-Monogamy Journal” and “Supporting Someone Polyamorous” as well as a weekly advice column and podcast called Non-Monogamy Help. Lola is also an amateur Strongman athlete and has a special interest in fitness and nutrition science. When not writing books, Lola is either at the gym, talking walks in nature, learning about sciencey stuff or baking new treats. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 276: Interview with Bethany Snyder & Kris Maul. Bethany Snyder and Kris Maul are a queer couple living in Urbandale, Iowa with their amazing 14-year-old kiddo and adorable pets. Bethany grew up in Altoona and attended the University of Iowa, while Kris was born in Illinois and moved to the Madison, WI area in middle school. They have lived all over the country from Washington, DC, to Minneapolis, and Northern California, before moving to Iowa in 2019. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 275: Interview with Ellecia Paine. Ellecia Paine helps people break free from monogamous conditioning, guiding them through the exciting world of ethical non-monogamy, polyamory, and swinging. She turns challenges like jealousy and insecurity into trust and open communication. As the host of the “Nope! We’re Not Monogamous” podcast, Ellecia champions authentic connections. With a decade of living and coaching non-monogamy, she shares insights that resonate deeply, making her clients feel understood and empowered. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 274 Interview with Shannon Hamaker. Shannon is on a mission to help people shed the layers of misunderstanding around sexuality and intimacy, unlocking the magic that comes with self-discovery and deeper connection. What began as a personal journey to enhance her 19-year marriage has transformed into a movement to support others in embracing their sexual wellness. A graduate of the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga with a B.S. in Human Ecology (Marriage & Family focus), Shannon is a Certified Sexual Health Promoter and Educator (Indiana University), Certified Sex Coach, and Somatic Practitioner (TCS™ Method). She is passionate about breaking myths around human sexuality through intimacy education and promoting products that support sexual health, especially for those affected by medication side effects, pelvic pain, peri & post-menopause, and cancer treatments. This is your invitation to reconnect, rediscover, and reclaim your pleasure. Let’s (s)explore together! If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 273: Interview with Mike Barsamian. For 25 years Mike has coached, counseled, and pastored teens and families from conflict to connection helping them grow together for a lifetime. He developed the PACE method for parenting and lives in California with his wife and two boys. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 272: Interview with Lauren Elise Rogers. Lauren Elise Rogers is a Certified Holistic Sexuality Educator and Embodied Intimacy & Relationship Coach, celebrated for her warm and approachable style. Her holistic and embodied approach to education and coaching is deeply rooted in her own pain-to-purpose journey. Lauren brings an empathetic and non-judgmental approach, offering practical tools that empower her clients to take ownership of their pleasure and grow in confidence and connection. She is known for creating shame-free spaces, where she invites individuals and couples to navigate complex topics like long-term partnerships, consensual non-monogamy, life transitions, purity culture and LGBTQIA+ issues. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 271: Interview with Marla Schreiber. Marla MSW, RSW (they/them) is a white, Queer, gender-defiant, neuro-fabulous therapist, educator, and author who has been practicing polyamory since 2005. They have been offering nonmonogamy (NM) workshops and consultations in academic and professional settings as of 2009. Based in Tkaronto (AKA Toronto, Canada), their therapy practice centers the experiences of 2SLGBTQIA+ and NM identities and relationships. In 2022, Marla introduced @polyamarla as an accessible, anti-oppressive, intersectional resource on social media. PolyaMarla has since grown into a team effort that offers education, training, and consultation for those who are practicing, or interested in understanding NM for personal and professional development. You can find Marla on social media @polyamarla, or check out their programming through polyamarla.com. Most recently, Marla wrote a book about the impact of mononormativity on non-monogamous relationships (they also had the pleasure of narrating the audiobook). “Nonmonogamy and Defying a Paradigm” will be released on August 1st, 2025, and is currently available for preorder from Thornapple Press. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 270: Interview with Cory Wagner. Cory Wagner is an artist and entrepreneur from the middle of nowhere in Wyoming and lives in Houston, TX. He convinced his wife to do the LWB program to save his marriage, and instead, ended up saving his sanity and gave himself a chance at happiness and a new life. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 269: Interview with Susan Taylor. Susan Morgan Taylor, MA, is a leading somatic sex therapist who helps couples deepen their intimacy and create lasting, fulfilling connections. With over 25 years of experience in somatic healing, she developed The Pleasure Keys Process™, a powerful approach to reigniting sexual and emotional harmony in relationships. After a personal awakening from a sexless marriage, Susan became passionate about helping others remove obstacles to pleasure, love, and orgasm. She is also the creator of the Pleasure Keys Retreats and host of the Sex Talk Café Podcast. When not working, she enjoys hiking and singing karaoke in the mountains of Western North Carolina. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 268: Interview with Robert Dalbol. Rob Dalbol was married for 10 yrs in a typical relationship before they decided to open their marriage. Ultimately, the inability to communicate effectively and differences in their values led them to separate. The tools in Kitty’s coaching Program have taught Rob that he is capable of providing more in his future relationships and show up as a more confident and emotionally mature man without letting fear or trauma come between him and his happiness. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 267: Interview with Zara Shah. Zara Shah is a Pakistani-Canadian queer sex worker. She uses her unique immigrant experience and perspective as a way to draw intersection between race, cultural background, and sexuality. Being a non-monogamous sex worker has allowed her greater control and freedom in both her social and professional life, and her book, “Nonmonogamy and Sex Work,” explores that in detail. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 266: Interview with Ariel Anderssen. Ariel Anderssen is a professional submissive BDSM performer and author of the memoir “Playing To Lose – How a Jehovah’s Witness Became a Submissive BDSM Model. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 265: Interview with Jesse Dean. Jesse Dean is a Master clinical Hypnotherapist, Certified Mastery Coach, creator of Hypnothera, the "Emotion-Quotion Course" and, the "BOUNCE Methodology”. He is the founder of the Open window Institute for Emotional Freedom which is dedicated to educating people about the power of their unconscious mind to develop healthy Emotional Freedom. Jesse Dean can help you open the window to your unlimited potential to change unconscious behaviors, limiting thoughts and emotions that cause misery and are preventing you from driving your life in the direction that is stronger, wiser and filled with Absolute Joy.  If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 264: Interview with Dr. Tammy Nelson. Tammy Nelson, PhD is a sex and relationship expert, an international speaker, an author and a licensed psychotherapist with almost thirty years of experience working with individuals and couples. In private practice she focuses on helping people of all ages, orientations and genders find love, healing and passion. Tammy Nelson, Ph.D. is the Director of the Integrative Sex Therapy Institute and has been a licensed sex and relationship therapist in practice for over thirty years. She teaches at several Universities, is a TEDx speaker and is the host of the podcast The Trouble with Sex. She is a Board Certified Sexologist, an AASECT Certified Sex Therapist, a Licensed Professional Counselor, a Certified Imago Relationship therapist, and a Licensed Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselor. She is the author of When You're The One Who Cheats, Ten Things You Need to Know, The New Monogamy; Redefining Your Relationship After Infidelity and Getting the Sex You Want; Shed Your Inhibitions and Reach New Heights of Passion Together as well as What's Eating You: A Workbook for Teens with Anorexia, Bulimia, and other Eating Disorders and her most recent project Integrative Sex & Couples Therapy. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 263: Interview with Tessa and Amir. Tessa & Amir have been experimenting and finding growth in Open Relating as individuals and together as a married couple for 20 years of their 36 year partnership. They continue to hold their families in the highest of priorities. They nurture intentional family time and holiday celebrations, as well as precious one-on-one time with their adult children. They believe that, having allowed the kids the space to grow, this gives Tessa & Amir the opportunity for karmic payback! Their erotic blueprints differ in vast ways and yet their path is uniquely suited to them as adventurers of life. They both work and play in different arenas, and now with three adult kids and a first grandchild, they find new ways to openly discuss their ACT 3 and time for giving back! Now in it's fifth season, their popular podcast addresses life in the OPEN, rather than empty, NEST! If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 262: Interview with Aasha T. Aasha T. is the Author of “The Empath is the Narcissist,” and an emotional and energetic intelligence expert. She has gone through her own experience with push/pull dynamic as both the avoidant and the anxiously attached to realize this is all about one thing: SOUL Vibes. This is where you become magnetic fast, and align to your desires (whatever those may be). If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 261: Interview with Emma Pleasure. Emma Pleasure is your pleasure coach, a yoga, meditation and tantra teacher and trainee sexologist. Emma's work combines spiritual ideology and practices with evidence-based knowledge and treatments into innovative, doable, pleasure-filled tools. Working with Emma in private sessions, events, and courses, you'll be held in a soft, sassy embrace that activates the highest vision for your most pleasurable, sexy and sensual life. If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 260: Interview with Dean Robertson. Dean Robertson is a retired evangelical minister. He has spent his entire adult life in Christian ministry in various capacities, including Senior Pastor, Church Planter, Mission Director, Evangelist, Denominational Superintendent and keynote Convention Speaker. He is also a studious Biblical scholar. He has a Master's Degree in Intercultural Studies, and his International Ministry has taken him to many areas of the world. His is the author of “Sex Was God’s Idea: An Honest Look at Biblical Sexuality and the Rightful Role of Women.” If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries

EPISODE 259: Interview with Kathy Labriola. Kathy Labriola is a nurse, counselor, and hypnotherapist in Berkeley, California. She has provided affordable mental health services to alternative communities for over 30 years. Kathy is author of four books on consensual nonmonogamy: “Love in Abundance: A Counselor's Advice on Open Relationships”, “The Jealousy Workbook”, “The Polyamory Break-up Book: Causes and Survival”, and “Polyamorous Elders: Aging in Open Relationships”. She has been a card-carrying bisexual and polyamorist for over 50 years. She is extra crunchy, rides a bike, lives in a housing cooperative, grows organic vegetables and raises chickens.  If you get value out of the Loving Without Boundaries podcast, then consider becoming one of our patrons! Not only will you enjoy exclusive content made just for you, your support will also help us continue creating educational content while helping more people have a deeper understanding of consensual non-monogamy and healthy, sex positive relationships in general. https://www.patreon.com/lovingwithoutboundaries