Marketing by Design

Marketing by Design is a narrative spotlight show for high-performing marketers and founders on how to drive real business results with design, branding, and strategy. Powered by the Columbus Chapter of the American Marketing Association, we explore how smart design and intentional strategy helps businesses stand out, earn trust, and convert the right customers.

Sales Expert Teaches Me How Everything He Knows | Brian Ondrako of Just Get Started

⚡️ Highest Converting Websites Swipe File (Steal The Best Designs on the Internet):https://www.mmgdesign.net/visualswipefileIn this episode, Brian Ondrako breaks down the real reason most people quit too early: the emotional plateau between “starting” and “seeing results.” We cover Brian’s journey from years of avoiding the first episode to building a 400-episode archive, interviewing legends like Seth Godin and Jason Fried, and teaching founders how to sell with confidence, empathy, and presence. CONNECT WITH BRIAN🌐 Website: https://brianondrako.com/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianondrako/📰 Newsletter: https://salesskillsforfounders.beehiiv.com/CONNECT WITH ANDY🌐 Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Intro02:20 — The myth of “starting is hardest”06:40 — Brian’s 3-year delay before episode one12:00 — Comparing yourself to giants online15:31 — Action creates mood20:45 — The evolution of Brian’s hosting style27:10 — Seth Godin on imposter syndrome34:10 — The mindset of asking big guests40:49 — Why founders struggle with sales47:32 — The messy middle of entrepreneurship56:30 — Where to find Brian onlineTEAM🎙 Host // Andy Milligan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/🎥 Production // MMG Design: https://www.mmgdesign.net/🤝 Powered by // AMA Columbus: https://amacolumbus.org

12-02
59:54

Working 70-Hour Weeks To Build The Biggest PR Agency in the UK (Chris Norton)

⚡️High-converting websites swipe file (steal the best designs on the web): ⁠ https://www.mmgdesign.net/visualswipefileChris Norton, Founder and Managing Director of Prohibition PR, shares how he went from burnt-out freelance PR consultant working 70-hour weeks to leading a 28-person agency built on focus, crisis comms, and campaigns people actually talk about. He breaks down how to use cultural insight, behavioral science, and a strong “gut check” to choose better clients, protect your energy, and design PR work that drives real behavior — not just headlines.Listen to this episode to learn how to rethink PR, set better boundaries as a marketer or founder, and build campaigns your audience genuinely wants to share.—MMG Design is my web design studio that's helped 80+ businesses clarify their offer and design a website they are proud to share.Marketing by Design is my podcast where we learn how high-performing marketers and founders built their success, and told their stories...by design.Newsletter: ⁠https://mmgdesign.kit.com/mbd⁠Website: ⁠https://www.mmgdesign.net/

11-27
42:35

The Conversion "Alchemist": How to Write B2B Website Copy That Works Like Magic

⚡️High-converting websites swipe file (steal the best designs on the web): https://www.mmgdesign.net/visualswipefileChris Silvestri breaks down how he blends copywriting, UX, and psychology to help B2B teams communicate clearly and convert more customers. He walks through the research-first process behind his Conversion Alchemy framework and explains why most teams hit a message–market fit problem long before a copy problem. If you want to write clearer, understand user behavior, and build messaging that actually moves people, this episode is loaded.Listen to this episode to learn how to write better, convert faster, and build a repeatable process for high-performing messaging.—MMG Design is my web design studio that's helped 80+ businesses clarify their offer and design a website they are proud to share.Marketing by Design is my podcast where we learn how high-performing marketers and founders built their success, and told their stories...by design.Newsletter: https://mmgdesign.kit.com/mbdWebsite: https://www.mmgdesign.net/

11-25
36:19

#123- College Golfer to $15k/mo solo agency with Webflow (My Story on The Fueled By Progress Podcast)

289 founders+marketers learn about web from my newsletter:https://mmgdesign.kit.com/mbdFix that homepage of yours:https://www.mmgdesign.net/free-auditThis week I'm resharing my recent interview on the Fueled by Progress podcast with Mark Szymanski.🔗 Connect with Mark Szymanski:Website: https://markszymanski.coFacebook: https://mjs.link/FBInstagram: https://mjs.link/IGLinkedIn: https://mjs.link/LIX: https://mjs.link/XYouTube: https://mjs.link/YT🔗 Connect with Andy Milligan:Website: https://www.mmgdesign.netFacebook:   / mindulmilligan  Instagram:   / mindfulmilligan  LinkedIn:   / mmgdesign  X: https://x.com/mmg__designYouTube:    / @mmgdesign  

11-18
02:05:32

Meet The Designer Who Made YouTube His Portfolio (And Landed Jobs, Sponsorships, and Clients)

269+ Marketers + Founders Learning From My Newsletter: https://mmgdesign.kit.com/mbdDesigner and creator Luks Margerie  found a completely new way to get attention: by turning his content into his portfolio.After quitting his agency job in Germany and moving to Miami, Lukas started posting his learning process on YouTube every day. Within three months, he went from just two freelance clients to full-time work with Magic Path, collaborations with Framer, and a thriving No Code United community.In this episode, Lukas shares how building in public opened every door: from clients to career-changing opportunities.TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Hook: from two clients to booked solid02:50 — Quitting the agency, hitting upload04:20 — Learning live: pause, learn, resume07:57 — 90-day pipeline shift09:29 — A creator’s daily cadence12:45 — Speed over polish (why he self-edits)16:47 — No Code United: help-to-hire loop24:38 — Ten videos = client-ready proof30:57 — The future: creator tool belts39:27 — Magic Path: design brainstorm superpower45:04 — Start messy, stay consistentCONNECT WITH LUKAS💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukas-margerie-99196118a/📹 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lukas-margerie👥 Discord (No Code United): https://discord.com/invite/vZxn6wZrDDCONNECT WITH ANDY🌐 Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/TEAM🎙 Host // Andy Milligan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/🎥 Production // MMG Design: https://www.mmgdesign.net/🤝 Powered by // AMA Columbus: https://amacolumbus.orgTop links:Highest Converting Websites Swipe File: https://www.mmgdesign.net/visualswipefileMarketer's Essential AI ToolKit: www.mmgdesign.net/aiMarketer's Essential Reading List: https://www.mmgdesign.net/books

11-11
50:17

#121- My Numbers From September 2025 (A Peek Behind The Curtains of My Business)

Watch my Monthly Recap Playlist on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlh2CSTVNn7zEbgJQp4AlbUQL5XembsgsIn this episode, I walk you through my September 2025 business recap—real numbers, real decisions, and the actions I’m taking next. I break down recurring vs. project revenue, where expenses went (including a special studio session), and how I’m using testimonials, systems, and better habits to drive margin and momentum. If you like transparent ops and takeaways you can steal, this one delivers.Resources I MentionNotion • Google Sheets • Moxie • Monarch Money • Senja • Webflow • Framer • Riverside • Brick House Blue • Creator Science (The Lab) • Google Workspace • Adobe • Shutterstock • Podmatch • OpenAITimestamps00:00 – Why I publish monthly, publicly01:25 – My retro format + goals03:10 – Revenue snapshot: $19,440 topline05:35 – Recurring vs. project work: where my margin lives08:05 – Expense breakdown & studio investment11:20 – Contractor hours, Moxie workflow, and margin14:45 – Reading cash-flow in Monarch Money18:00 – Spinning up a testimonial flywheel with Senja21:40 – The Jay Klaus session and why it mattered26:10 – Wins: revenue, AMA site kickoff30:55 – Losses: follow-ups, double work, procrastination36:30 – Personal notes: stress, solitude, discipline41:20 – 33 episodes in the queue—publish faster46:05 – October plan: ops, cadence, 3 launches51:10 – Closing mindset + accountabilityIf you found value in this episode, please rate and review Marketing by Design on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. It helps us reach more high-performing marketers.Follow MeLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/

11-04
36:19

Breaking ALL The Rules of a Normal Agency, and Finding Success | Brad Griffith, Buckeye Innovation

In this episode, Brad Griffith, Founder of Buckeye Innovation, shares how he works with nonprofits and civic partners who aren’t always a budget fit — by reducing scope, not standards. He explains how curiosity, consistency, and creativity help him deliver impact while protecting the integrity of his team’s work.CONNECT WITH BRAD🌐 Website: https://www.buckeyeinnovation.com/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradgriffith/🏢 Brick House Blue (New Albany): https://www.brickhouseblue.com/locations/new-albany-waters-edgeCONNECT WITH ANDY🌐 Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/Listen to this episode to learn how to protect your craft, serve your clients well, and still say “yes” — without selling yourself short.—MMG Design is my web design studio that's helped 80+ businesses clarify their offer and design a website they’re proud to share.Marketing by Design is my podcast where we learn how high-performing marketers and founders built their success... by design.To learn more, visit mmgdesign.net

10-28
44:55

How To ACTUALLY Reach the Goals You Set For Yourself as an Entrepreneur | Jason Vandevere

Jason VanDevere—founder of Goal Crazy and author of Dream Driven—shares how to stop guessing and start validating.He walks through his two-step process (focus groups + presell), the daily systems that make discipline automatic (scorecard day, alarm stacking, junk-drawer blocks), and his mindset shift: discomfort is what growth feels like.You’ll learn how to design your ideal day, take real signals from your network, and build something that lasts.📘 Dream Driven → https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CYQQZBW8/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0🗓 Goal Crazy → https://goalcrazy.com

10-21
40:45

"AI is Changing Everything About How SEO Works" | Dale Bertrand of Fire and Spark

Fire&Spark founder Dale Bertrand explains zero-click search and why GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) changes how we win attention. He shares the shift from SEO’s performance focus to GEO’s brand-visibility advantage, plus concrete tactics to research longer, more complex queries using niche communities and real customer language.Listen to this episode to learn how to adapt your content strategy for AI-driven search, reset traffic expectations, and build visibility where your buyers now look.CONNECT WITH DALE🌐 Website: https://www.fireandspark.com/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dalebertrand/📹 Speaking: https://dalebertrand.com/CONNECT WITH ANDY🌐 Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/—MMG Design is my web design studio that's helped 80+ Businesses clarify their offer and design a website they are proud to share.Marketing by Design is my podcast where we learn how high-performing marketers and founder built their success, and told their stories...by design.To learn more, visit mmgdesign.net

10-15
40:18

Tas Bober: Being a Sass Quen, Building a Marketing Career You Actually Love, and What's Next | #117

TAS Bober—founder of The Scroll Lab and co-host of Notorious B2B—shares how one year in sales made her a far better marketer, why she productized landing pages, and how she designed a three-day workweek without sacrificing quality. We cover the in-house → solo transition (insurance, runway, expectations), her comments-first LinkedIn strategy, and the “time–money–quality” triangle that guides her decisions.Listen to this episode to learn how to use sales insights to build better marketing, structure a productized service, and ship imperfectly without imposter syndrome.Resources Mentioned:The Scroll Lab https://thescrolllab.com/#about Tas's Sass Playground (aka Linkedin)https://www.linkedin.com/in/tasbober/Notorious B2B (TAS & Tim)https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-notorious-b2b-shows-podcast/id1806951823Exit Five Communityhttps://www.exitfive.com/Columbus AMAhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/3736263/TAS’s “TAS” Spotify playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5QpUdJqY1jAbVJ2ojbG4Ov?pi=V-fe_DkkRc2y6&nd=1&dlsi=d170e7eff9864e8eHost (Andy Milligan): https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/Website & Production: https://www.mmgdesign.net/

10-07
01:01:49

#117-My Founder Story On The Just Get Started Podcast

Hey Friends! Recently I made an appearance on the "Just Get Started" Podcast with Brian Ondrako.Brain is an amazing host and literally gave me my hall of fame interview on this show. Be sure to check out the Just Get started Podcast and all of Brian's links below:Shownotes Page for This Episode: https://brianondrako.com/podcast/andy-milliganJust Get Started Podcast: https://brianondrako.com/podcastWork With Brian: https://brianondrako.com/sales-coachingFollow Brian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianondrako/--MMG Design is my Web Design Strategy Studio that has helped 80+ founders and marketing teams design a website that they are proud to share. Marketing By Design is my podcast that interviews high performing founders and marketers and discover how they built their discuss and told their stories, by Design.For more, go to www.mmgdesign.net

10-01
01:23:02

The Future of In-Person Marketing Events + Ohio's Can't Miss Conference of 2025

⭐️ Discount Treat: AMAPALS25Nick Brunker (VML) and Jessica Guido (St. Elizabeth Healthcare) join us to preview AMA Cincinnati’s Ignite Conference 2025.Together, they highlight why Cincinnati’s marketing community deserves a bigger spotlight and what makes Ignite a can’t-miss event.Listen to this episode to learn what sets Ignite apart, how CX leaders are rethinking brand experiences, and why being in the room creates conversations you can’t get online.—MMG Design is my studio that’s helped 80+ start-ups drive results from website strategy. If that’s something you’re interested in, I’d love to have a conversation.Marketing by Design is where we interview our favorite founders and marketers andlearn how they built their success and told their stories... by design.

09-23
32:11

He Runs a $1.5 ARR Business (With 3 People) | Anthony Pierri of Fletch PMM

Start a Convo on Linkedin or Book a Free Homepage Audit (Normally $500):In this episode of Marketing by Design, I sit down with Anthony Pierri, Co-Founder of Fletch PMM, to talk about why most agencies are set up to fail — and why productized consulting is the way forward. Anthony shares how doing one service over 400 times took him from 40% client satisfaction to 95%, why public pricing builds trust, and how to make your homepage work like a product page.TIMESTAMPS00:00 – The agency model is broken02:34 – Why paid can’t fix bad packaging06:51 – Good/Better/Best = three businesses10:08 – Why productized margins rise with scale13:34 – 400 reps to 95% satisfaction19:21 – Design still matters (even in wireframes)23:29 – Make your homepage a product page26:19 – Pricing in the hero (controversial experiment)31:18 – The BOM video: pre-qualify buyers34:49 – Why Fletch shares their entire playbookCONNECT WITH ANTHONY💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonypierri/🌐 Website: https://www.fletchpmm.com/CONNECT WITH ANDY💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/🌐 Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/TEAM🎙 Host // Andy Milligan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/🎥 Production // MMG Design: https://www.mmgdesign.net/🤝 Powered by // AMA Columbus: https://amacolumbus.org

09-17
38:16

#114- The TRUTH About Ghostwriters, What They Do, and What You Didn't Know | Maria Marchewka

Join 211 Founders and Marketers on My Newsletter.Maria Marchewka always heard people describe ghostwriting as “writing in the shadows.” But when she started ghostwriting on LinkedIn for busy founders and executives, she realized the truth was far more powerful — ghostwriters are building authority, credibility, and opportunity behind the scenes. In this episode, Maria shares what ghostwriting really looks like, why marketers misunderstand it, and the impact it can create when done well.Listen to this episode to learn why ghostwriting is one of the most underrated growth levers for modern marketers.—MMG Design is a web design studio that helps founders and marketing teams quickly explore a new design direction for their websiteMarketing by Design is a podcast where we share the stories and strategies of high-performing marketers in every niche to learn their secrets.To learn more, visit mmgdesign.net

09-09
44:09

His Posts Get 1-2 Likes... But They Also Get Him Clients. Entry #113 | Vincent Grippi of Grippi Media

Vincent Grippi, Founder & CEO of Grippi Media, shares how moving from “post daily” to campaign-first content created deeper engagement and better clients. With 16+ years of experience in healthcare and tech marketing, Vincent explains how one flagship video can expand into an article, newsletter, and carousel—without burning out your team. We also dig into why smaller audiences convert better, why community is the next marketing moat, and how to measure depth instead of likes.Listen to this episode to learn how to design fewer, better content assets that actually drive pipeline.—MMG Design is a web design and agency working with B2B founders and marketing teams to quickly a higher-converting design direction for their website.Marketing by Design is a podcast where we share the stories and strategies of high-performing marketers in every niche to learn their secrets.To learn more, visit mmgdesign.net/podcast.

09-02
40:28

#112: Using Linkedin To Get 5-figure Projects, Keeping your Pipeline Full as a Freelancer, How I'm Approaching Growth in 2025 (Listener Mailbag Q &A)

Join My Newsletter To Learn More Every Week!📚 Marketer's Essential Reading List Free Notion Database: https://www.mmgdesign.net/booksIn this episode, I answer Reddit’s most popular questions about web design freelancing, lead generation, and building systems as a solo founder. I share exactly how I’ve landed clients through podcasting, how I use LinkedIn to spark real conversations, and what I do to keep my pipeline full even in slow seasons—all from my perspective running a six-figure web design studio.TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Intro02:12 – What’s the fastest way to turn a podcast guest spot into a client?07:45 – How do I structure a podcast to lead to business?12:30 – What podcast format brings the best ROI?16:05 – What LinkedIn post types actually spark client conversations?21:22 – How do I grow my LinkedIn without spamming?25:50 – How do I follow up with LinkedIn engagers?30:18 – If I needed 3 clients this month, where would I start?36:42 – How do I qualify leads to avoid bad-fit projects?42:20 – How do I keep my pipeline full in slow seasons?49:05 – Why I prefer Webflow over other platforms54:40 – What tools make my client handoff process smooth and foolproof?01:01:10 – How I test new designers before giving big projects01:07:12 – My advice for scaling without full-time hiresCONNECT WITH MELinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/TEAM🎙 Host // Andy Milligan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/🎥 Production // MMG Design: https://www.mmgdesign.net/🤝 Powered by // AMA Columbus: https://amacolumbus.org

08-26
31:49

What Most Service Providers on Linkedin Don't Do Well w/ Allison Ditmer

Allison Ditmer proves you don’t need to post selfies or overshare online to build an authentic personal brand. As a brand messaging strategist, she’s helped founders, solopreneurs, and professionals clarify their positioning on LinkedIn, attract clients, and build trust without the cringe.Listen to this episode to learn how to authentically grow your brand on LinkedIn—and join us live for Allison’s AMA Columbus event at Cohatch Polaris.--Marketing by Design is a podcast where we share the stories and strategies of high-performing marketers and founders to learn their secrets.To learn more, visit mmgdesign.net

08-19
34:58

#109: AI Has Totally Changed The Web Design Process. Here's What it Means.

Book a Homepage Roast: https://www.mmgdesign.net/free-auditI’m pulling back the curtain on how I use AI to move from kickoff call to live website with agency-level quality and solo-freelancer speed. Step by step, I’ll show you the exact tools that help me slash timelines, stay laser-aligned with clients, and keep sites evolving after launch.🎙 Host // Andy Milligan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/🎥 Production // MMG Design: https://www.mmgdesign.net/🤝 Powered by // AMA Columbus: https://amacolumbus.org

08-14
17:04

Getting Hired as a Marketer in 2025 (Felicia Wagner, Portfolio Creative)

In this episode, I’m talking with Felicia Wagner of Portfolio Creative about how to navigate the 2025 job market as a marketer or creative.We talk through my own layoff story, why most creatives undersell themselves, and how to move forward even when the job search feels overwhelming.Listen to this episode to learn how to confidently job hunt as a creative in 2025—even if you're feeling stuck.—MMG Design is a web design studio that’s helped 80+ startups clarify their offer and express it through bespoke, modern websites.Marketing by Design is a podcast where we share the stories and strategies of high-performing marketers in every niche to learn their secrets.To learn more, visit mmgdesign.net

08-12
27:04

Reddit Could Be a Goldmine for Marketers | Anthony Holiday of Sitka Design

Recently, my friend Anthony Holliday and I had one of those off-the-cuff chats that just hits different. We weren’t planning to record it, but after he broke down how he’s using Reddit to drive real traffic and high-ticket leads, I had to share it with you. It’s weird, casual, and packed with insight.Enjoy .—Anthony Holliday is the founder of Sitka Design, a studio helping creatives and service businesses grow with intentional Webflow websites, content strategy, and branding.Website: https://www.sitka.design/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-holiday/—MMG Design is a web design studio that’s helped 80+ startups clarify their offer and express it through bespoke, modern websites.Marketing by Design is a podcast where we share the stories and strategies of high-performing marketers in every niche to learn their secrets.To learn more, visit mmgdesign.net

08-06
14:25

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