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August 9-15 Maurine, I used to look forward to the tail end of our Thanksgiving and Christmas feasts in Missouri because my Dad, a brilliant and world-renowned geologist and geological engineer, and Darrell Ownby, part of our family and a world-class ceramic engineer, and Nord Gale, a celebrated, favorite professor and brilliant microbiologist and Harold Romero, also a brilliant physicist, would stay at the table and discuss deep gospel questions. Many times, the conversations would go way over my head, as they talked about creation, celestial worlds, spirit elements, atomic elements and the qualities of light—but I tried to follow along as best I could. Hey, I was only 12 years old! But this was the beginning of my yearning, thirst and hunger for knowledge. I could not get enough of it. These discussions around the table were amazing. And then I was introduced to Section 88 of the Doctrine and Covenants. I was blown away. This deep water is the subject of this episode.
May 24-30 Can you imagine living in a world where people did not hurt each other or become angry or divided ? Can you imagine families with total harmony and marriages with no contention? Can you imagine a world where everyone watched out for each other and people were there to help you when you needed it? Can you imagine a place so pure that God could be there? It may sound too good to imagine, but that is the Zion that the Lord envisions for us and that’s what we hope to build.
May 30-June 5 We’ve just spent 35 days in the Middle East leading three tours in the Holy Land, Egypt and Jordan. Of course, you cannot go to these places and lead a spiritual tour without constantly referring to the Old Testament. On this particular journey with all these amazing people, the thing that struck me over and over again was this: When John the Beloved quoted Jesus Christ in chapter 5, verse 39 where He said: “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.” Jesus was sending the people to the Old Testament to find Him. When Lehi opened the Plates of Brass for the first time and searched them from the beginning (see 1 Nephi 5:10) and then he “was filled with the Spirit, and began to prophesy concerning his seed (see 1 Nephi 5:17) he was immersed in the Old Testament. When Nephi says, “For my soul delighteth in the scriptures and my heart pondereth them…” he was talking about the Old Testament. When Ammon, Aaron, Omner and Himni converted seven cities of the Lamanites and brought untold thousands to the Savior, they were using only the Old Testament in their teaching! What a treasure we have in the Old Testament!
May 23-29 The story of the Abrahamic covenant is your family story. Kerry Muhlestein says, “We don’t often think of it in that manner.” But our grandfather Abraham grew up in a turbulent time, where “his own father was steeped in idolatry. He saw his immediate family involved in horrible practices, including human sacrifice, but he knew there was a better way. Records had come down from his forefathers and foremothers, from Adam and Eve, Seth and Enoch, and Abraham reached for the heavens hoping to join his answers in the covenant. “Then one starry night, God came to him, putting His hand over him, opening his eyes, and pouring out the power and blessings of the covenant upon him, welcoming Abraham and Sarah into the community of God and those who were bound to him. They had sought God and now they had found him.” These are the covenants offered to you.
May 16-22 Scot and Maurine Proctor are joined by Kerry Muhlestein, an Egyptologist, professor at Brigham Young University and author of many books including most recently God Will Prevail, and Let’s Talk about the Book of Abraham. Readers often skip chapters in Deuteronomy, but we’ll tell you why it is one of most important books in the Old Testament to understand the covenant.  Deuteronomy also contains in Chapter 6, some of the most oft-repeated verses. We get a clear sense here of what the covenant blessings are and a sense of what happens when covenant makers turn away and the Spirit withdraws.  Why was it so seductive to the Children of Israel to turn to other gods? What was the appeal?
May 9-15 Scot and Maurine Proctor are joined today by John Hilton lll, who is a professor of Religious Education at Brigham Young University, an author and humanitarian. In our lesson today, the Children of Israel are in the thick of the wilderness journey, and if hunger and thirst, were not enough to bear, now there are fiery, flying serpents to contend with, and a powerful, spiritual solution which few of the people are willing to do. Why won’t they do this simple thing? The Children of Israel have also come to the promised land, and while it is indeed a land flowing with milk and honey, ten of the spies who have gone in to take a look, come back into camp terrified. They feel like grasshoppers among giants in this new land, and, therefore, anyone over twenty, except Joshua and Caleb, will wander and die in this wilderness rather than having the abundance the Lord was willing to offer them, if they had just trusted Him.
May 2-8 Elder Tad R. Callister joins Scot and Maurine Proctor today. He was in the Presidency of the First Quorum of Seventy and is the author of a number of books including The Blueprint of Christ’s Church; A Case for the Book of Mormon; America’s Choice: A Nation Under God or Without God?  We talk together about what it means to be holy and what the Lord is asking of us. We note how the Savior’s atonement is the thread that binds all of the events of the Old Testament together. The Tabernacle in the Wilderness was in the very center of Israel’s camp. What does that mean and how did Joseph Smith reveal a divine pattern for temples that is similar to the Tabernacle?
April 25-May 1 Scot and Maurine Proctor are joined in the podcast today by Kerry Muhlestein, BYU professor, Egyptologist, author of God Will Prevail and many other books. He is passionate about teaching people to understand the Old Testament and appreciate its ground-breaking content. The Lord offers the Children of Israel to see Him, but they are fearful. After all they have seen of God’s miracles, why would they molten a golden calf to worship? What corrupts them so quickly?
April 18-24 Egyptologist, BYU professor, and author Kerry Muhlestein joins Scot and Maurine Proctor today to talk about the Children of Israel at Mount Sinai, and the remarkable visions, thunderings and lightenings that happen on that holy mountain. The Lord said, “Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings and brought you unto myself.” God’s intent is to make His people a “peculiar treasure” and a “kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” First, however, they must know what God will expect of them to be offered these good gifts.
April 11-17 Elder Bruce C. Hafen, former member of the Seventy and an author, joins Scot and Maurine Proctor today to look more deeply and understand with greater clarity the magnificence and personal nature of the Savior’s atonement. He helps us see how the atonement is not just for sinners, but for the range of human weakness, miscalculation, negligence and error that humanity in a fallen world are liable to. He teaches us what the place of grace is in our lives and how the Savior’s sacrifice can help us see our weaknesses and be transformed through Him. Daily repentance can become a daily refreshment. Elder Hafen is the author of The Broken Heart; Faith is Not Blind, any many other significant books.
April 4-10 Why are the Children of Israel continually complaining and murmuring against Moses? Though they’ve seen the miracles that brought them out of Egypt, and then watched the Red Sea part so they could cross on dry ground, they still say: “Would to God we had died by the hand of the Lord in the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger.” Jeffrey M. Bradshaw, well-known for his extensive commentaries on the Book of Moses and Genesis,  joins Scot and Maurine Proctor today to talk about strength or fear, firm or wavering in the face of our personal Red Seas.
March 28-April 3 Scot and Maurine Proctor are joined today by Daniel C. Peterson, retired professor of Islamic Studies and leader of the Middle Eastern texts project at Brigham Young University. In Egypt, there are more gods than you can count, and Jehovah makes it clear that not only is He God, but He is the only one who can deliver the covenant people out of bondage. Moses is gradually transformed from one who quakes to think of going before Pharoah to one who has the spiritual strength to lead an enormous group of people into a barren desert and part the Red Sea, with confidence that God is with him.
March 21-27 Daniel C. Peterson, retired professor of Islamic Studies and founder and editor-in-chief of the Interpreter Foundation, and producer of the film Witnesses, joins Scot and Maurine to explore Moses’s profound encounter with the burning bush and the charge he was given to confront Pharoah with the message to “Let my people go.” This explores the story in a way you may have not heard before. Among other things we ask, what does “I AM’ mean?
March 14-20 When Joseph became vizier of Egypt, second only to Pharoah and wearing his ring of authority, he also got a new name that doesn’t exactly roll off our English-speaking tongues. It is Zaphnath-paaneah and what it lacks in clarity, it more than makes up in its meaning which is “savior of the world.” Yes, his starving family will come from Canaan, hoping to buy the corn that Joseph has stored in Egypt, but his name signifies even more than that. We’ll tell you in this episode.
March 7-13 Children can tell the story of Joseph being sold into Egypt. We know it well, with nasty brothers, slave dealers, false accusations, pits of despair and drama galore. What’s most important about this story, however, may not be obvious, and that’s what we are talking about in this episode.
February 28-March 6 The story of Jacob in the Bible has all the elements of high drama. True love thwarted, family division, a deceiving father-in-law, a tight escape. If it was a movie you’d want to watch it, but it’s much better than a movie because over arching all, it is the story of the covenant in the lives of real people.
February 21-27 In the chapters in Genesis that should be about Isaac, he hardly shows up. He plays a surprisingly passive role, which leads you to think how much we’re missing in his story. After all this is the son, who willingly went with Abraham to be sacrificed and therefore was a similitude of the Savior. This is the son his parents longed for through decades, and then, when we might get a chance to meet him, he is whisked off the stage. 
February 14-20 I remember the first time I visited the massive, ancient building erected by Herod the Great in Hebron. He had it built over the Cave of Machpelah more than 2,000 years ago to mark and protect the sacred resting place of Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rebekah, Jacob and Leah. I walked into the building as a ten-year-old with a covering over my head and my parents, brothers and a number of friends at my side. There was one place where you could go to your knees and carefully look through a brass grate and see into the cave below. A small lamp was burning there. A feeling came over me at that moment, not only that this was a sacred place, but that I was connected to Abraham. He was my direct-line grandfather. I have never forgotten that moment.
February 7-13 In Genesis, we soar through the stories of generations in a few pages, as if we were flying thousands of feet above them and getting the merest glimpse. Then suddenly we drop for a closer view for many chapters of one man and his family—Abraham.
January 31-February 6 The greatest potential for danger is one that we cannot afford to close our eyes to and miss. That is the growing wickedness around us that is seeping into our lives without announcement or warning flare. It just crawls on clawed feet into the hearts of ourselves and our children, as quietly as that asteroid did that swept close to earth. But wickedness is not a near miss. It is targeted, upon us, and more destructive than we have ever supposed.
Comments (6)

Kristen Openshaw

This episode on Noah was excellent. Thank you for including current topics and spiritual quotes from apostles.

Feb 4th
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Valiant Jones

Thank you, Maurine, for sharing the story of how you dealt with the breaking of your arm. I have wondered about that. Your positive attitude is so inspiring.

Sep 7th
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Herman Wolfs

we have followed the podcasts since January 2019, and inspire many to subscribe. THE BEST. Thank you Proctors for sharing your experiences in the faith and your insights after many years of teaching and serving.

May 30th
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Ruth Dowling

did something happen to the podcast? why did it cut off at 5 minutes?

Jun 23rd
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Amy Bradfield Cox

Great podcast! Easily my favorite CFM podcast! I recommend it to family, friends, and my ward family all the time.

Jul 28th
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