Messiah Matters

Messiah Matters is the premier theological YouTube show and podcast that approaches biblical topics from a pronomian (pro-law) view. Hosts Rob Vanhoff and Caleb Hegg approach the biblical text with the understanding that God’s law is the standard for the Christian life and the backdrop for biblical interpretation. 

Show #541 – Distinction Theology?

Show #541 - Distinction Theology? Description In this episode, we take a look at an article written by Dr. David Rudolph that lays out a “standard” Messianic Jewish view of distinction theology. Rudolph uses passages like Romans 1 and 11, and Ephesians 2 as the foundation for his argument. As we walk through the article we take a look at some of the passage he brings up to who the One Law perspective. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:18 Start• 10:54 Looking at the Article• 20:42 Acts 15• 36:50 1 Corinthians 7.17ff• 1:00.25 One Law View? Links Article by Dr. David RudolphBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #541 – Distinction Theology? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

01-02
01:09:32

Show #540 – Et Cepher Follow up

Show #540 - One Law Theology: What is Distinction Theology Description In this episode, we revisit the Et Cepher and look at several emails that have come in. Included, a look at Hebrews 2:7, who the “Et Cepher Publishing Group” actually is, and the claims about a 29th chapter of Acts.Watch the first video on the Et Cepher here. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:18 Start• 10:38 Hebrews 2.7• 19:50 Who is the Et Cepher Group?• 26:11 Pronunciation of the Sacred Name• 34:08 Including Acts 29? Links What Version of the Bible Should I Read? – Tim Hegg5 Reasons to Avoid the Et Cepher Bible – David Wilber Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #540 – Et Cepher Follow up appeared first on Messiah Matters.

12-30
47:22

Show #539 – One Law Theology: What is Distinction Theology

Show #539 - One Law Theology: What is Distinction Theology Description In this episode, we look at some of the views of those in the Messianic Jewish community that oppose One Law Theology. First we look at Ephesians 2.11-22 and discuss the One Law view of this text. Then we look at an interview with Dr. David Rudolf who opposes One Law theology and takes a much more “hardcore” view of Distinction Theology. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:25 Start• 7:13 Distinction Theology• 30:58 Ephesians• 2:11-22 Explained• 42:30 Rudolf tries to Explain Ephesians• 51:11 Not Quite True Links One New Man, Hebrew Roots, Replacement Theology – David RudolfA Commentary on Ephesians – Tim HeggOne New Man – Tim HeggBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #539 – One Law Theology: What is Distinction Theology appeared first on Messiah Matters.

12-26
01:06:02

Show #538 – What is One Law

Show #538 - What is One Law Description In this episode, we look at One Law theology. What is it? Is it Biblical? What are some of the main objections? We will look at some often cited texts and we also look at several videos from people who make objections to One Law theology. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:19 Start• 8:19 What is One Law?• 18:10 The Mormon Conundrum• 28:18 Yeshua and the Law• 41:16 Explaining Paul• 48:21 Reaction Videos Links The False Teacher of Modern Day JudaizersInterview with Dr. Michael BrownFive Things Jesus Never SaidBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #538 – What is One Law appeared first on Messiah Matters.

12-18
01:06:11

Show #537 – The Et Cepher

Show #537 - The Et Cepher Description In this episode, we take a deep dive into the Et Cepher Bible and see if the criticism is warranted. We look at the base translation and the person behind the work to bring the Et Cepher to market. We discuss some of the translation choices, the inclusion and exclusion of “et” throughout the text, the theological elements that have been included, a discussion on canonization, and the controversial decision to add the 16th century book of Jasher. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • Start 2:16• Et Cepher Intro 7:27• Base Text 12:29• Who’s Behind the Et Cepher? 18:49• Inclusion of Jasher 25:00• Hebrews 8-9 – 35:19• Et Theology 37:17• Exodus 6 – 40:44• John 1 – 44:50• Does it Matter? – 57:06 Links What Version of the Bible Should I Read? – Tim Hegg5 Reasons to Avoid the Et Cepher Bible – David Wilber Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #537 – The Et Cepher appeared first on Messiah Matters.

12-10
01:04:00

Show #536 – Translations

Show #536 - Translations Description In this episode, we have a discussion about the Septuagint, the Vulgate, and the Aramaic Targums, the we move to canonization of the Scriptures and the belief within Judaism of the Great Assembly and Yavneh. Finally, we finish with a look at various bible translations. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 4:15 Intro• 11:12 How to Use the Aramaic Targums• 29:07 The LXX• 34:40 Canonization• 48:08 Bible Translations Links Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #536 – Translations appeared first on Messiah Matters.

12-04
01:00:07

Show #535 – Should We Reject Paul?

Show #535 - Should We Reject Paul? Description In this episode, we recap the 2025 Evangelical Theological Society annual meeting in Boston. We look at the reasons I believe it’s important to go and some of the benefits we get from it. We also discuss comments on recent videos where people have attacked the deity of Yeshua and claimed He is simply an “agent” of God, and also claims that Paul’s letters are not canonical. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:17 Start• 5:45 Benefit of the ETS• 14:06 Sessions I attended• 27:28 Books from ETS• 33:45 – Deity of Yeshua• 36:57 Should We Get Rid of Paul Links Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #535 – Should We Reject Paul? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

11-27
54:27

Show #534 – What’s So New?

Show #534 - What's So New? Description In this episode, we look at Hebrews 10 and consider the traditional view that the writer believes the Torah, and specifically the sacrificial system has been done away with. Then we move to the New Covenant and ask what exactly has been fulfilled. Finally, a discussion on the Bible and if it has so many mistake how can we trust it? Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:20 Start• 8:54 Future of the Messianic Movement• 16:44 Hebrews 10• 35:57 What is Fulfilled in the New Covenant?• 50:55 Does the Bible Have Tons of Mistakes? Links TorahResource Academic ConferenceSin SacrificeBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #534 – What’s So New? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

11-13
01:04:03

Show #533 – Yeshua & Oral Law

Show #533 - Yeshua & Oral Law Description In this episode, we discuss the recent letter that was sent to IAMCS congregations and the split taking place between the alphabet groups (IAMCS, UMJC, MJAA). Then we look at a question about Yeshua and Oral Law. Did Yeshua actually condemn oral law or does He actually cite it? How should we as believers in Yeshua approach rabbinic tradition and Oral Torah? Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 3:27 Start• 12:09 IAMCS Letter• 22:56 One Law Infiltration?• 28:44 Did Yeshua Keep the Mishnah?• 40:11 Rabbinic Story Response• 46:41 Formation of the Mishnah Links TorahResource Academic ConferenceThere Shall Be One LawBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #533 – Yeshua & Oral Law appeared first on Messiah Matters.

11-05
01:01:20

Show #532 – Are We On the Wrong Calendar?

Show #532 - Are We On the Wrong Calendar? Description In this episode, we look at common objection to the rabbinical calendar. Many within the Hebrew Roots movement believe we should be keeping various calendars but is this true? To understand this argument we first attempt to define what Hebrew Roots and Messianic Judaism is and look and the differences between them. Then we look at the problems and strengths of the traditional calendar. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:22 Start• 11:50 Calendar Debate• 14:56 Hebrew Roots VS Messianic• 25:52 Problems with Traditional Calendar• 47:00 Old VS New Two House Theology• 53:00 Sanctuary Cities Links TorahResource Academic ConferenceThere Shall Be One LawBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #532 – Are We On the Wrong Calendar? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

10-29
57:18

Show #531 – Salvation by Faith Alone

Show #531 - Salvation by Faith Alone Description In this episode, we look at the celebration of Halloween and ask if Christians should be involved in celebrating this holiday, or if the modern Church’s replacement with things like “Trunk or Tread” are ok from a biblical perspective. Then we turn to the doctrine of salvation by faith alone. Has the Church missed something here? What do we do with Yeshua’s response to the rich young ruler? Does James advocate for salvation my works? All of these points are looked at and discussed. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:17 – Start• 9:36 – Discussion on Halloween• 37:08 – Salvation by Faith Alone Links TorahResource Academic ConferenceThere Shall Be One LawBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #531 – Salvation by Faith Alone appeared first on Messiah Matters.

10-23
01:12:45

Show #530 – The Term “Pronomian”

Show #530 - The Term "Pronomian" Description In this episode, we look at an article by R.M. Bailey that contends the term “pronomian” is taking on a new shape and that we should use it as a hermeneutical term instead of a label. We survey the article and give some opinions and history as to how this term has been used in the past five years. Finally, a look at the teachers who have used this term and how we are more united than ever before, not because of a label or a theological perspective, but because of our love for our King Yeshua. Links R.M Bailey PostBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #530 – The Term “Pronomian” appeared first on Messiah Matters.

10-01
01:00:44

Show #529 – Festivals

Show #529 - FESTIVALS Description In this episode, we start by looking at the five major festivals in the Bible and discuss what each one of them mean, what their significance is, and how they point directly to our personal story of salvation, as well as, Israel’s story of redemption. These festivals point to what has happened for believers in Yeshua as well as future events that are yet to happen. Then we move to the arguments made by the mainstream Christian Church on why we no longer have to keep these feasts, and ask if these arguments are biblical or not. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:10 Start• 7:20 The Fall Festivals, Meaning & Significance• 31:41 Fulfill & Appeal to Early Church• 45:16 Be can but don’t have to?• 57:27 Celebrating Passover in the Heart Links Ligonier MinistriesChristianity Still Makes SenseTR Academic ConferenceBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #529 – Festivals appeared first on Messiah Matters.

09-24
01:07:39

Show #528 – Theonomy

Show #528 - Theonomy Description In this episode, I look at liturgical prayer for today and discuss what this can look like in the life of a believer. Then a short look at what has often been termed “the Covenant of Works” and if this is really what was going on in the garden. Then I move to the main topic of Theonomy, a theological position that contends the civil aspects of God’s law still apply today and that we as believers should try to get the nation we live in to conform to God’s civil law. How should we as Torah observant believers see this theological position? Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:20 Start • 7:08 Liturgy for Believers• 15:30 Covenant of Works? • 21:13 What is Theonomy?• 23:40 Christians and Theonomy • 43:31 General Equity Theonomy • 58:44 Should We Believe in Theonomy? Links Wonderful ThingsBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #528 – Theonomy appeared first on Messiah Matters.

09-17
01:04:03

Show #527 – As Often as You Eat It

Show #527 - As Often as You Eat It Description In this episode, we begin by giving advice for new Torah observant father’s. Then we move to the Passover. What is going on in 1 Corinthians 11? Why does Paul use the “for as often as you eat this bread…”? Is Paul taking about communion or passover, or is something else going on? Finally, we read an email from someone who asks if Christians really keep most of the Torah?   Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:18 Start • 6:43 Advice for TO Fathers• 12:46 Eating Passover Uncircumcised • 23:10 1Corinthians 11• 45:54 Pagan Elements?• 52:54 Do Christians Keep Most of Torah? Links Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #527 – As Often as You Eat It appeared first on Messiah Matters.

09-10
01:01:21

Show #526 – The Priesthood

Show #526 - The Priesthood Description In this episode, we welcome Rob back for a discussion on the priesthood. Starting in Jeremiah 31, we move through several texts that describe the future kingdom with a priesthood once again established on earth. Is this metaphorical as some have suggested? Or is there to be a priesthood on earth again? Also, a look at Hebrews 8.13 and the fact that “covenant” is not found in this verse. Finally, a discussion on 1 Peter 2 and what it means that we are to be a nation of priests.  Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 4:48 Start • 15:44 Jeremiah 31 • 31:57 Hebrews 8:13 • 41:35 What did the Priests do during exile? • 44:51 1 Peter 2 Links Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #526 – The Priesthood appeared first on Messiah Matters.

09-04
56:20

Show #525 – Salvation and Passover

Show #525 - Salvation and Passover Description In this episode, we first look at a take on salvation that attempts to couple calvinism and arminian theology. This idea suggests that the Bible teaches two salvations, one for national Israel and one for individual people. We look at this from a biblical perspective to see if it holds up. Then we turn to a video by a Lutheran teacher who discusses his view of the Lord’s Supper as something totally different from the Passover and why this view has major problems.  Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) 2:21 Start5:53 National and Individual Salvation21:30 Problems with this view33:05 Last Supper and Passover46:45 Clean Break? Links Baptist Press: Whosever WillPassover and the Lord’s SupperBecome and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #525 – Salvation and Passover appeared first on Messiah Matters.

08-27
01:08:34

Show #524 – Covenant Theology

Show #524 - Covenant Theology Description In this episode, we look a the ins and outs of covenant theology. We start by looking at the basic foundations of this theology, then we move to some of the issues that covenant theology has when it comes to coherent biblical interpretation, finally, we look at the various views of physical Israel and if those who hold to covenant theology believe in replacement theology or not.  Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:32 Start • 6:13 Tongues and 1Cor. 14.2• 19:41 What is Covenant Theology?• 34:11 Covenant and Punishment• 41:14 Covenant Theology and the Torah Links Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #524 – Covenant Theology appeared first on Messiah Matters.

08-14
01:13:45

Show #523 – No Longer of Works?

Show #523 - No Longer of Works? Description In this episode, we discuss a video by someone who claims that believers need to be reading the book of Enoch and should pray to see if God wants them to do so. Then we move to a discussion about Romans 11.6, why does Paul say “No longer of works…” instead of “not of works?” Also a discussion on traveling on the Sabbath and images in worship. Executive Producer: Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Shane and Ruth Anne Lunderville, Bryan Dillard. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 3:29 Start• 13:42 Book of Enoch• 25:44 No Longer of Works• 34:54 Traveling on the Sabbath• 43:57 Images in Worship Links Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #523 – No Longer of Works? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

08-07
59:21

Show #522 – Dispensationalism

Show #522 - Dispensationalism Description In this episode, we first look at a video that talks about the foundation of our faith being Christ. This is true, but we look at the Torah as the true reflection of God’s holiness and how this is the reflection of Christ as well. Then we look at dispensationalism. We discuss the various dispensations and look at several videos from dispensational scholars and ask if this is really how the Bible presents sanctification. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:16 – Start• 10:11 – Christ as the Foundation• 20:29 – Defining Terms• 30:58 – What is Dispensationalism?• 49:25 – Israel and Dispensationalism• 51:14 Problems with Dispensationalism Links Christ is the Foundation of our FaithDiscovering DispensationalismWhy Are You Dispensational?Got Questions: What is Dispensationalism?Become and Executive ProducerTorahResource Pronomian ConferenceTR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #522 – Dispensationalism appeared first on Messiah Matters.

07-31
59:31

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