Middle School Walk & Talk

<p>A podcast series offering heart, hope, and health to members of our middle school communities. Hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire model wellness as they walk and talk while recording each episode. Listeners are encouraged to take a walk, too, as they listen to discussions on self-care, student well-being, school culture, and more. Middle School Walk and Talk is designed to support the concepts found in the book, The Successful Middle School: This We Believe, and is a production of the Association for Middle Level Education. For more information, visit www.amle.org.</p>

Dust Off the Mission: Building Trust and Accountability in Middle Schools with Guest Jen Cort

In this episode of Middle School Walk & Talk, hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire welcome Jen Cort, a seasoned educator, administrator, counselor, and incoming head of school, to discuss fostering healthy school communities amid societal polarization. Cort emphasizes the importance of grounding classroom and school practices in a clear, actionable mission to guide conversations and set boundaries for disagreements. She offers practical strategies, such as co-constructing agreements w...

09-30
28:34

Mess Up, Own Up, Rise Up: Navigating the New Middle Schooler with Guest Jack Berckemeyer

In this episode of Middle School Walk and Talk, hosts Jessica McGuire and Phyllis Fagell sit down with middle level education expert Jack Berckemeyer to discuss the evolving behaviors of young adolescents. Jack shares insights from his AMLE article on the "8 New Characteristics of Middle School Kids," highlighting trends like increased boldness, diminished respect for authority, and a tendency to debate everything. Together they explore how these shifts, influenced by the pandemic and b...

08-26
25:53

Keep It Simple Stupid: Intentionality and Empathy for the New School Year

In this back-to-school episode of Middle School Walk & Talk, hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire share their reflections and strategies for starting the 2025 school year with intentionality. They discuss the importance of self-awareness for educators, recognizing personal triggers, and aligning actions with a school’s mission to create a supportive community for students and parents. Emphasizing the KISS principle (“Keep It Simple, Stupid”), Jessica highlights the need to strea...

07-29
28:34

Why Don't We Just Ask Them? A Conversation about the Modern Middle School Experience with Real Middle School Students

In this episode of the Middle School Walk & Talk podcast, AMLE CEO Stephanie Simpson guest hosts a vibrant conversation with five finalists from the 2025 Middle School Student Sound Off Contest, exploring what it’s like to be a middle schooler today. These young people offer authentic insights into the challenges and joys of navigating adolescence in 2025. Tune in to hear their perspectives on social dynamics, academic pressures, and personal growth, and view all their submissions at amle...

06-10
24:04

"Start with the End in Mind" - The 2024-2025 Year in Review

In this final episode of the school year, hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire reflect on key themes from the school year, sharing insights from their experiences in Washington, DC, and Wyoming. They discuss the universal challenges of middle schoolers, the importance of team approaches to complex issues like school avoidance, and the value of clear communication with families to build trust. With spring break underway and pollen in the air, they also explore how routines and collegial su...

05-19
21:23

Not Just a Piece of Them, The Whole of Them with guest Kwame Sarfo-Mensah

In this episode of the Middle School Walk & Talk podcast, hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire welcome Kwame Sarfo-Mensah, a seasoned educator and consultant, to discuss his new book, Learning to Relearn: Supporting Identity in a Culturally Affirming Classroom. Kwame shares insights from his work with Identity Talk Consulting, which focuses on culturally responsive teaching and anti-bias practices in K-12 schools. The conversation delves into addressing identity-based harm in middle s...

04-28
36:04

Ditching "Divide and Conquer": A Refreshing Blueprint for Middle School Leadership with Guests Bryan Rickert and Katie Laird

In this episode of the Middle School Walk and Talk podcast, hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire sit down with Brian Rickert and Katie Laird, a dynamic principal + assistant principal duo from Trumbull, Connecticut, who share their innovative approach to collaborative leadership in a bustling middle school of 800 students. Unlike traditional models that divide tasks between administrators, Brian and Katie emphasize a "better together" philosophy, working side-by-side to enhance outcomes f...

04-07
27:20

Avoiding Firefighter Syndrome with Guest Darrin Peppard

In this episode of Middle School Walk and Talk, hosts Jessica McGuire and Phyllis Fagell sit down with Darrin Peppard, a former middle school teacher, principal, and superintendent turned leadership coach, who shares his unexpected journey into middle school education and his passion for its unique magic. Darren reflects on how education has shifted post-pandemic, offering practical advice for school leaders on staying curious, empowering others (including avoiding micromanaging), and finding...

04-01
19:58

Defining What "It" Is: Managing our Mental Models with guest Clay Cook

In this episode of the Middle School Walk and Talk Podcast, hosts Jessica McGuire and Phyllis Fagell are joined by Clay Cook, the Chief Development Officer of Character Strong. Clay shares his extensive background in education and his work with Character Strong, an organization focused on providing educators with low-burden, high-impact resources to support social-emotional learning and behavioral growth in students. They dive into the power of mental models—how our beliefs as educators shape...

03-18
24:24

The Power of Putting Yourself in Another's Shoes with guests Gabby Ferguson and Kristen Engle

In this episode of the Middle School Walk & Talk Podcast, hosts Jessica McGuire and Phyllis Fagell chat with Gabrielle "Gabby" Ferguson, winner of the 2024 Middle School Student Sound Off Contest, and Kristen Engle, a veteran 7th grade language arts teacher from Rockwood South Middle School in Missouri. Gabby shares her insights on the purpose of middle school, tackling its emotional, social, and physical challenges, while Kristin, recently honored as Middle Level Educator of the Year, of...

02-27
18:03

Managing Student Boredom and Teacher Frustration: We're Replacing Knees When We Need an Appendectomy with Guest Katie Powell

Katie Powell joins hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire for this episode of Middle School Walk & Talk. Katie, AMLE Director of Middle Grades Programs and author of Boredom Busters and Frustration Busters, shares insights on how educators can combat student disengagement and manage classroom frustrations. She discusses practical strategies from her books, like the "Junk Drawer" activity for engaging students and the importance of managing teacher stress to maintain a learning-focused c...

02-17
18:56

Change the Way you Look at Things to See a Different Picture with guest Don Parker

Hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire sit down with Don Parker, a seasoned educator and former principal. Don shares his journey from a PE teacher in Chicago to a pivotal figure in educational leadership. He discusses how understanding the root causes of student actions can revolutionize classroom dynamics, particularly in environments with high trauma, and offers invaluable insights into building empathy, managing behavior, and the importance of patience and relationship-building. Middle ...

02-03
25:53

Transforming Trauma into Teaching with guests Molly Mee, Dara Yin, and Thaisan Nguon

Hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire are joined by Molly Mee, Dara Yin, and Thaisan Nguon of Street Cred Education Consultants. The guests share their personal stories of overcoming educational and personal challenges, including dropping out and gang involvement, highlighting the critical need for educators to understand the impact of trauma on students. They discuss how their nonprofit aims to bring authentic experiences into professional development for teachers, focusing on strategies ...

01-20
22:02

Revisiting the Interview Chair with guest Jimmy Casas

Hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire talk all things school culture and leadership with award-winning principal and best-selling author Jimmy Casas. Jimmy shares his journey from a disillusioned principal to a culture advocate, discussing how educators can lose their way and the importance of self-reflection and mentorship in regaining purpose. He emphasizes that culture in schools is fundamentally about behavior, critiquing the common pitfalls which can lead to burnout and hinder capacit...

01-06
21:58

Productive Noise: Elevating Student Voice in Middle School with guest Sandy Cameli

Join hosts Jessica McGuire and Phyllis Fagell as they chat with Sandy Cameli, a seasoned middle level educator and author of Successful Middle School Student Voice, about the nuances of fostering young adolescent student voice. Sandy shares insights from the book, including defining student voice beyond verbal expression, discussing how to implement student voice strategies like the "3-2-1" reflection method, and highlighting success stories that emphasize the importance of empowering m...

12-18
26:03

You Can Only Go Halfway: The Role of Trusted Adults in Middle School with guest Brooklyn Raney

In this episode of Middle School Walk and Talk, hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire converse with practitioner researcher Brooklyn Raney about the crucial role of trusted adults in schools. Raney discusses her work on how to ensure every student has an advocate, emphasizing the importance of accessibility, boundaries, and genuine care. She shares practical advice on how educators can leverage their strengths to connect with students, using memorable anecdotes like the "clapping contest" ...

12-03
26:54

Winning Screen Time - It's more than "put the phone down...put the phone down...put the phone down" with guest Patrick Green

In this episode of Middle School Walk and Talk, Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire sit down with Patrick Green, a former middle school teacher turned digital wellness expert, to discuss the challenges of managing technology in schools and at home. Patrick shares insights on how to help students balance their online and offline lives, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries, especially around sleep. He explores how educators and parents can foster healthy digital habits and also touch...

11-20
25:26

Students Sound Off on the Modern Middle School Experience

In this episode of "Middle School Walk and Talk," hosts Phyllis Fagel and Jessica McGuire dive into the heart of middle school life through the voices of today's students. Featuring finalists from AMLE's Student Sound Off contest, the episode explores the challenges and triumphs of being a middle schooler in 2024, from navigating social media misunderstandings to balancing academic pressures with personal interests. Through poetry, art, and personal narratives, these young voices offer insigh...

10-02
26:21

Financial Literacy Ed - Its More Than Balancing the Checkbook

Cryptocurrency... digital banking... online scams... How can we prepare kids to be financially empowered in a constantly changing world? Khalia Murray, Education Partnership Specialist, and Kevin Mechenbier, Content Manager for Financial Education at EVERFI, join Phyllis and Jessica to explore what financial literacy can and should look like in the middle grades. When is the right time to introduce these concepts? How do we make them relevant to students? What skills should they possess regar...

09-03
32:12

Back to School Trends 2024: Beeping at you all day long

From the latest TikTok trends causing chaos and the increasing push to limit cell phones in middle schools, to continuing rates of chronic absenteeism, Phyllis and Jessica are back and they’re talking all the trends they’re seeing as we head back to school for the 2024-2025 year. They also discuss innovative approaches schools are taking to improve kids’ engagement in school and how to use all the data available to schools to better support school staff and understand root causes. They ...

07-29
27:30

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