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The Murder Sheet is a weekly true crime podcast hosted by journalist Áine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee.

We take a journalistic approach to covering true crime. We have broken national news on major stories. We have covered cases like the Delphi murders, the Burger Chef murders, the Austin yogurt shop murders, the donut shop murders, Bryan Kohberger and the University of Idaho murders, Rex Heuermann and the Long Island Serial Killer case, the murder of Scott Macklem by Temujin Kensu, the I-70 Killer, the disappearance of Asha Degree, the Tylenol murders, the Zodiac murders, and more.

We also cover plenty of other subjects, including high-profile murders, cold cases, legal topics within the criminal justice system, restaurant slayings, historical crimes, and wide-ranging interviews with authors and experts.

If you're looking for in-depth coverage of both well-known and obscure cases, smart legal analysis, and thoughtful interviews, then this is the true crime podcast for you. The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.


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Robert Eugene Brashers was a serial killer. He murdered women and children.But at home, he was a father his daughter and stepchildren admired.Today, we will hear from Brashers's biological daughter, Deborah. In this episode, she will recall learning that her father was a serial killer, and what she's doing today to try to raise awareness and possibly uncover other crimes he committed.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Robert Eugene Brashers was a serial killer. He murdered women and children.But at home, he was a father his daughter and stepchildren admired.Today, we will hear from Brashers's biological daughter, Deborah. In this episode, she will recall growing up with Brashers for a father, a few red flags, as well as his traumatic suicide. Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Illinois, Texas, California, and Ohio.First Alert 4’s report on the discovery of Kylie Toberman’s body: https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/11/15/police-body-found-vandalia-illinois-related-missing-persons-case/KSDK’s report on the circumstances of Kylie Toberman’s life and death and her connection to accused killer Arnold B. Rivera: https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/mother-slain-vandalia-jr-high-student-she-didnt-deserve-this/63-22e7c21c-a015-49e6-a0c4-fab91e846714A press release from the Illinois State Police on Kylie Toberman’s murder and the arrest of Arnold B. Rivera: https://illinois-state-police.prezly.com/s/17f6c48f-c8ed-462b-b01c-7fb1e9e79b9d?previewNBC Chicago’s report on Kylie Toberman’s murder and the arrest of Arnold B. Rivera: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/details-emerge-in-14-year-old-illinois-girls-murder-as-police-investigate-social-media-post/3852390/NBC News’s coverage of the murder of former Laney College football coach John Beam and the arrest of Cedric Irving Jr.: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-charged-murder-last-chance-u-coach-allegedly-confessed-according-c-rcna244488The San Francisco Chronicle’s coverage of the murder of former Laney College football coach John Beam and the arrest of Cedric Irving Jr.: https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/john-beam-shooting-suspect-witchcraft-21186151.phpThe San Francisco Standard’s coverage of the murder of former Laney College football coach John Beam and the arrest of Cedric Irving Jr.: https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/14/john-beam-shooting-laney-college-security/The Arlington Police Department’s press release on the arrest of Janie Perkins for the cold case murder of Cynthia Gonzalez and the work of University of Texas at Arlington criminology students: https://www.arlingtontx.gov/News-Articles/2025/Arlington-PD-Makes-Arrest-in-1991-Cold-Case-in-Partnership-with-UTANBC News’s article on the arrest of Janie Perkins for the cold case murder of Cynthia Gonzalez and the work of University of Texas at Arlington criminology students: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/college-students-help-police-make-arrest-1991-cold-case-murder-investi-rcna244562The Independent’s article on the arrest of Janie Perkins for the cold case murder of Cynthia Gonzalez and the work of University of Texas at Arlington criminology students: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/cynthia-gonzalez-janie-perkins-cold-case-murder-b2867135.htmlCleveland.com’s article on efforts by Ohio criminal law professors to reduce the sentence of Leander Bissell in the murder of firefighter Johnny Tetrick: https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2025/11/law-profs-urge-ohio-supreme-court-to-uphold-conviction-ruling-in-cleveland-firefighters-death.htmlThe Supreme Court of Ohio’s recent order based on efforts by Ohio criminal law professors to reduce the sentence of Leander Bissell in the murder of firefighter Johnny Tetrick: https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/8/2024/2024-Ohio-5317.pdfFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.It’s cold. 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The Future of Crime Solving is our new series where we talk to law enforcement officials who are working to introduce eSleuth AI to police departments around the country. As part of this inaugural episode in the series, we interviewed former ATF official Eric Harden about his experience in law enforcement and his views on gang violence.If you're a law enforcement official curious about eSleuth AI, email Scot at sthomasson@esleuth.ai or check out their website at: https://www.esleuth.ai/Order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.If you had the power to stop a crime before it happened, wouldn’t you do it? What if that crime was done against yourself or your own family. Well, with Simplisafe’s home security system, you can stop break-ins and burglaries before they happen.The big problem with traditional home security systems is that they react after an intruder is already breaking in or inside. At that point, it’s far too late. Your peace of mind is gone the moment someone intrudes on your space.Simplisafe is different, thanks to their advanced home security technology. AI-powered cameras can lock onto potential threats outside. If a prospective intruder approaches, live agents step in to confront the person via a camera. Now the potential bad guys know someone’s watching and prepared to dispatch police in an instant. They can also start blaring sirens and flashing lights.We have relied on Simplisafe to keep our home safe for years. We trust them with our safety. It’s great knowing someone is looking out for you and your family. It does wonders for our peace of mind, especially since we’ve gotten threats in the past over our reporting. Simplisafe really does have your back. No hidden fees. No long term contracts. No punishment for canceling at any time. Try it out today, you even get a 60 day money back guarantee. This month only, take 50% off any new system. This is one of the best prices you will ever see for SimpliSafe—don’t miss it. Hit SIMPLISAFE dot com slash MSHEET—again, that’s SIMPLISAFE dot com slash MSHEET and lock in your discount. There’s No Safe Like SimpliSafe. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
On the anniversary of Indiana's infamous Burger Chef murders, we will address questions from listeners and individuals interested in the case. Jayne Friedt, Danny Davis, Mark Flemmonds, and Ruth Shelton disappeared during their shift at the Burger Chef in Speedway, Indiana sometime between Friday November 17 and Saturday November 18 in 1978.Check out our Burger Chef murders recap here: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/1cf50ad4-ae9f-4825-8d63-3074cf187ec5Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsBuy our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.I don't know about you, but I'm always getting those spam calls. It's so annoying. There are predatory grifters out there just waiting around trying to steal my money. That is why I am so grateful for our wonderful sponsor, Cash App. Cash App makes me feel more secure knowing my money is safe. The holidays are all about finding the perfect gift, but this time of year, not every deal is actually what it seems. Scammers are getting more creative to trick people into sharing their payment info through methods like fake shopping sites and giveaways that are too good to be true. Luckily, Cash App’s 24/7 fraud monitoring helps detect and alert you for unusual card activity should someone gain access to your card, so you can act fast if something seems off. You can also lock or unlock your Cash App Card instantly right in the app for extra control and peace of mind. Stay one step ahead of scams this season and keep your money secure with Cash App.Cash App’s like a bodyguard for your wallet. We use Cash App to pay back friends and buy amazing produce at our local farmer’s market and treats at holiday festivals.Signing up was fast, convenient, and intuitive. It’s such a great app that even we find it easy to use!For a limited time only, new Cash App customers can use our exclusive code to earn some additional cash. For real. Just download Cash App, use our exclusive referral code SECURE10 in your profile, send $5 to a friend within 14 days, and you’ll get $10 dropped right into your account. Terms apply. That’s Money. That’s Cash App. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
We discuss the recent developments in the shooting of Maria Velasquez, the cleaning woman who Curt Andersen shot and killed through a closed and locked door.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Looking for affordable but premium gifts this holiday season? Or maybe you’re just trying to update your own wardrobe. Either way, head to our wonderful sponsor Quince. Quince is a brand that gets your luxury goods for less. Mongolian cashmere sweaters. Italian wool coats. Leather handbags. The kinds of premium and stylish touches you can rely on for years, that will delight you every day. I adore my Quince collection. I have three Mongolian cashmere sweaters. My new one is a fisherman crewneck sweater in ivory. It's so cozy. I wore it to a book signing and I really liked the way it looked. Another recent Quince purchase is a black 100% washable silk long sleeve mini dress. I think it’s so cute and I’m going to wear it to Thanksgiving and Christmas! And of course, Aine’s blue beret has become a signature look she wears in all our Patreon lives. By popular demand! So check Quince out. You’re going to be getting excellent products for less money. It’s a terrific way to amp up your wardrobe this winter.Get your wardrobe sorted and your gift list handled with Quince. Don't wait! Go to Quince dot com slash msheet for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That’s Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash msheet. Free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash msheet: https://quince.com/msheetSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Sam McGuire studies conspiracy theories. He is a master's graduate from OCAD University in Toronto, Ontario. We were fortunate enough to get to talk to him about conspiracy theories, their prevalence in true crime, and how we can try to help people break the cycle of conspiratorial thinking.In new segment, True Crime Wave, we’ll be talking about issues endemic to true crime. At its best, true crime offers the audience a way to learn about stories of crime, social issues, legal realities, and the real human beings at the heart of cases. It can be educational and compassionate and cathartic and thoughtful and incisive, and it can help raise awareness of cases. Good true crime can show case all kinds of different perspectives. It can center journalism, advocacy, legal analysis, investigative approaches, the experiences of survivors or victims’ families, and more. That is all very good. But too often, we see true crime devolve. We have seen online mobs, harassment, conspiracy theories, ethics-washing, and more. True crime won’t get better on its own. We think talking about these things will help. Check out Sam's Master's thesis here: https://openresearch.ocadu.ca/id/eprint/4061/Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsBuy our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from California, New York, Indiana, and Ohio.NBC New York's coverage of the recently solved murder of Ann Lustig and the identification of Steven Briecke as the killer: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/long-island/smudge-crime-scene-helped-long-island-police-solve-1997-cold-case-murder/6416940/CBS's coverage of the recently solved murder of Ann Lustig and the identification of Steven Briecke as the killer:https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/ann-lustig-rape-murder-cold-case-solved/Law & Crime's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://x.com/LawCrimeNetwork/status/1988267978261921882?s=20KTLA's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/private-investigator-claims-to-know-who-was-driving-d4vds-abandoned-tesla/Los Angeles Magazine's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://lamag.com/news/lapd-stands-by-no-further-crimes-confirmed-in-death-of-celeste-rivas-hernandez/Men's Journal's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/police-issue-telling-statement-d4vd-224248558.htmlThe Indianapolis Star's coverage of the shooting death of Maria Florinda Ríos Pérez:https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2025/11/05/house-cleaner-maria-florinda-rios-perez-guatemalan-shot-killed-whitestown-indiana/87110514007/WTHR's coverage of the shooting death of Maria Florinda Ríos Pérez: https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/indiana-stand-your-ground-law-whitestown-shooting/531-f9a66029-28ab-4428-af16-6493ec8a7ae610 TV's coverage of the alleged murder of Mary Hill by her husband James Hill: https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/court-documents-detail-events-leading-to-attempted-murder-suicide-upper-arlington-home/530-37a02902-4c27-4059-b58f-d51f4ca54afdFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Bad things happen, even in the places you should be most safe. We know that from covering true crime. That is why investing in a home security system is paramount to your peace of mind. That is why we rely on Simplisafe every day.  Simplisafe beats out all the traditional home security systems. The other systems ar reactive. They let you know after someone’s broken in. It’s too late at that point. Well, Simplisafe goes further. Thanks to their AI-powered cameras and live monitoring agents, they can detect and confront potential intruders before the break in even begins. They’ll tell those intruders to clear off, that police are on the way, and set of alarms and lights. Simplisafe protects your home and prevents crime from even happening. We know because we rely on Simplisafe. We’ve gotten threats over our reporting on crime cases. So we take our personal safety pretty seriously. We’ve used Simplisafe for years and are very impressed with their range of options. They’re also great on customer service. You can cancel any time. There’s a 60 day money back guarantee. No hidden fees, either. This month only, take 50% off any new system. This is one of the best prices you will ever see for SimpliSafe—don’t miss it. Hit SIMPLISAFE dot com slash MSHEET—again, that’s SIMPLISAFE dot com slash MSHEET and lock in your discount. There’s No Safe Like SimpliSafe. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Several court exhibits associated with Richard Allen's defense's Odinism theory have become public. They mostly feature well-trod ground around the debunked theory that Norse pagans sacrificed Liberty German and Abigail Williams on February 13, 2017. But they do feature a few interesting insights, including an interview between Kathy Allen and police.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLCSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In 2022, Bryan Kohberger murdered University of Idao students Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Ethan Chapin, and Xana Kernodle at a home in Moscow, Idaho. Kohberger pled guilty and received four life sentences. He was also ordered to pay restitution to the victims' families for funeral expenses. On November 5, 2025, Kohberger's defense team, Latah County prosecutor Bill Thompson, and Judge Steven Hippler had a hearing about further expenses. Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLCSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The List Family Murders

The List Family Murders

2025-11-0901:12:121

On November 9, 1971, a man named John List got to work killing his entire family. After killing his wife Helen, his mother Alma, and his children Patricia, John Frederick, and Frederick, he vanished. In 1989, List was arrested and ultimately convicted of the murders.Today, we speak with a longtime listener with a unique perspective on this case: He corresponded with John List while the family annihilator served his life sentence in prison.Shoutout to Andy — one of our beloved patrons — who was kind enough to come on the show. Thank you, Andy!Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsPre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Don’t you hate feeling like people are constantly trying to scam you?Yeah. I’m always getting scammy phone calls and texts and emails. It’s everywhere. So annoying and stressful. There are a lot of scammers out there. But the good news is our sponsor Cash App has your back. Scammers know the holidays are busy for everyone which can make us all targets for scams. That’s why Cash App builds in protection to help keep your money safe while you’re checking off your shopping list. If you’re about to send money to someone for a deal that’s too good to be true and Cash App flags it as a potential scam, they'll warn you before you send the money. Cash App also gives you an extra layer of protection with features like Security Lock. You can require a PIN, Face ID, or fingerprint, to unlock your account and move money so even if someone gets a hold of your unlocked phone at holiday party, your money is right where you left it. ● Gift yourself some peace of mind this holiday season and download Cash AppWe love to use Cash App. It’s easy and intuitive. We’ve used it at holiday festivals for treats, at farmer’s markets to get delicious watermelons this summer, and to split bills with friends after a night out. For a limited time only, new Cash App customers can use our exclusive code to earn some additional cash. For real. Just download Cash App, use our exclusive referral code SECURE10 in your profile, send $5 to a friend within 14 days, and you’ll get $10 dropped right into your account. Terms apply. That’s Money. That’s Cash App. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from New Jersey, Washington, Oklahoma, Canada, and Australia.NJ.com’s coverage of the disappearance of Kevin Collins Jr.: https://www.nj.com/salem/2025/11/nj-moms-desperate-8-month-search-for-her-missing-son-inspires-fundraiser.htmlTinisha Hall’s Change.org petition on the disappearance of her son, Kevin Collins Jr.: https://www.change.org/p/help-find-my-kevin-collins-demand-action-demand-answersThe BBC’s coverage of convicted child rapist Steven van de Velde: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly9z3r1dmzoThe National Post’s coverage of the conviction of Qin Shen for the attack on Jing Lu: https://nationalpost.com/news/b-c-appeal-attempted-murder-courtroomNews9’s coverage of the murder of Oklahoma Highway Patrol Trooper Howard Crumley and the denied parole of Hubert Wilkinson: https://www.news9.com/crime/commutation-denied-for-man-convicted-in-1970-murder-of-oklahoma-highway-patrol-trooperKATU’s report on the death of a man known as Arslan and the arrest of Raylin Marie Benzie: https://katu.com/news/local/court-docs-woman-met-man-for-sex-at-ilani-casino-drugged-him-with-fentanyl-killing-himFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
On November 5, 1986, Temujin Kensu murdered Scott Macklem. For decades, Kensu and his allies have put out rumors about Scott having a dark side, in an effort to point to other possible killers. So what's the truth about Scott? Was he rapist? Was he involved in drugs? On today's episode, we will hear from five friends of Scott. They will debunk some myths about their murdered friend.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
On November 5, 1986, Temujin Kensu murdered Scott Macklem. For decades, we've mostly heard Kensu's story. Meanwhile, Scott's been lost in discussion of his own killing. So who was Scott Macklem? On today's episode, we will hear from five friends of Scott. They will share what Scott was like as a person.In tomorrow's episode, we will hear from them again as they debunk some of the myths spread about Scott.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Happy Halloween!The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Indiana, New York, Oregon, and Georgia.Syracuse.com's coverage of the case of Miequin Cheese and the murder of Lakquan Golden: https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2024/11/a-potential-jurors-nod-of-the-head-has-led-to-a-syracuse-murder-conviction-being-overturned.htmlMore coverage from Syracuse.com on the case of Miequin Cheese and the murder of Lakquan Golden: https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2025/10/mans-second-murder-trial-begins-after-conviction-was-overturned-for-a-jurors-nod.htmlOregonLive's coverage of recent cases in Oregon that have been impacted by that state questioning the reliability of ballistics testimony: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/06/method-to-analyze-gun-evidence-not-scientifically-valid-oregon-court-says-in-major-ruling.htmlOregonLive's coverage of recent cases in Oregon that have been impacted by that state questioning the reliability of ballistics testimony: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/10/court-overturns-portland-murder-conviction-citing-recent-landmark-ruling-on-gun-evidence.htmlFox5 Atlanta's coverage of the Billy Joe Cagle arrest: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-airport-arrest-phone-calls-reveal-moments-before-billy-joe-cagles-arrestCBS News' coverage of Billy Joe Cagle's family's courageous decision: https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/atlanta-airport-shooting-threat-averted-billy-joe-cagles-family-speaks-out/Fox 59 reports on a plea deal in the case of the would-be Mooresville High School Shooter Trinity Shockley: https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/plea-agreement-filed-in-case-of-would-be-mooresville-hs-school-shooter/Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Your home should be your refuge. But as true crime podcasters we can tell you that criminals are out there willing to violate your peace and security for whatever insidious motive. It’s a real danger and it’s probably one of the scariest things that can happen to a person or a family.And one big problem is that traditional home security systems are helpless to deal with this, because they are reactive. Once an intruder is inside or actively breaking in, then the system goes off. So the trauma is already going to be there for the homeowner. That’s why we trust Simplisafe to protect our home. They’re different. Plus, our listeners are going to get 60% off in Simplisafe’s biggest sale of the year. The reason we love our Simplisafe home security system is we know it’s proactive. If an possible intruder comes up to our door, their live agents will jump on the situation. They’ll confront the person, tell them police are on the way, and start sounding alarms and flashing lights. That Active Guard Outdoor Protection is a pretty good deterrent for a criminal. You don’t have to do anything, you don’t have to monitor alerts themselves. Their AI-powered cameras and live human agents will do it all for you. We’ve used our Simplisafe home security system for  years. It’s a brand that we trust, that’s become a part of our lives and our own peace of mind. As true crime podcasters, we’ve gotten threats, so we take security seriously. We trust Simplisafe to protect our family from burglars, criminals, and anyone who might do us harm. Don’t miss out on SimpliSafe’s biggest sale of the year—60% off. Right now, our listeners can save 60% off on a SimpliSafe home security system at SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. That’s SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. There’s no safe like SimpliSafe.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Spin Docs is our segment where we scrutinize true crime docuseries and documentaries. Today, we will speak about Netflix's The Perfect Neighbor, which chronicles the killing of young mother Ajike Owens by Susan Lorincz on June 2, 2023 through body camera footage.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLCWe love Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies. We’ve had a busy year in terms of writing and promoting our crime nonfiction book, and continuing to produce the podcasts. Cornbread Hemp gummies have helped us with sleep, stress, aches, and more.Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies help us manage everything. We’ve been using their berry CBD gummies, which taste so good, and their sleep CBD gummies and their CBD lotion. What we love about Cornbread Hemp is that these products work with your body, not against it. We’ve been really impressed by the results and enjoy adopting them as part of our wellness routines.  As a tense and pretty anxious person, Cornbread Hemp’s CBD gummies help me feel less stress. These gummies are made with full spectrum CBD for maximum potency, plus their Flower-Only extraction means you’re not eating sticks, stems, or leaves. It's all organic, vegan and gluten freeCornbread Hemp is all about quality products. They’re looking to help improve your quality of life through the highest quality CBD. Plus, they’re based in our neighboring state, Kentucky, which has a hemp tradition going back 250 years. Cornbread products are all third-party lab-tested and are USDA organic. So what you’re getting is safe and pure CBD. And as a reminder, CBD is non-intoxicating. Right now, Murder Sheet listeners can save 30% on their first order! Just head to cornbread hemp dot com slash MSHEET and use code MSHEET at checkout. That’s cornbreadhemp dot com slash MSHEET, and use code MSHEET.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
We interviewed former Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert about her work on the Golden State Killer case and the 1991 yogurt shop murders investigation.Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.It's fall. The air’s crisp. The sky’s darker in the evening. The holidays are drawing closer. Time to bundle up and get cozy with the latest sweaters, outerwear, and essential layers from Quince.We love our sponsor Quince. We shop there all the time. We love getting luxury goods for less. Quince has prices that are 50% less than similar brands because they cut out the middlemen to get you quality items at a reasonable price. Washable silk tops and skirts, Italian wool coats, and of course their signature mongolian cashmere sweaters. As the temperatures drop, I’m once again returning to my black V-Neck Sweater and a dark blue Turtleneck Sweater, both in Mongolian cashmere. I love how they feel. But I'm also mixing things up with two new purchases. One, my Mongolian cashmere fisherman crewneck sweater in ivory. It's so cozy. And the other is a black 100% washable silk long sleeve mini dress, for the holidays.I love my two new Quince sweaters, too. They’re warm and keep me comfortable against the autumn chill. Check them out. Also, Aine has a cute blue beret that I love and she has begun wearing.I love that beret.Step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished, and last— from Quince. Perfect for gifting or keeping for yourself. Go to Quince dot com slash msheet for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That’s Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash msheet to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash msheetSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Indiana and France.Fox 59 broadcast the brief hearing in the case of Mark Sanchez's alleged assault on Perry Tole: https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/mark-sanchezs-attorneys-participate-in-initial-hearing-in-marion-county-court/BBC's coverage of the conviction of Cédric Jubillar for the murder of Delphine Jubillar: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crexz473pvxoLe Monde's coverage of the conviction of Cédric Jubillar for the murder of Delphine Jubillar: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/police-and-justice/article/2025/10/17/cedric-jubillar-sentenced-to-30-years-in-prison-for-murder-of-his-wife_6746530_105.htmlNBC's coverage of the Louvre heist: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/europe/louvre-reopens-jewel-heist-thieves-police-paris-rcna239064Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.It’s full-fledged fall out there. It’s sweater season. And I’m thrilled about it because it means we went on a new Quince shopping spree.We love our sponsor Quince. It’s our go-to for quality pieces. They offer $50 Mongolian cashmere sweaters for everyday style.  Italian wool coats with designer cuts. Fashionable denim. Silk tops and skirts to upgrade your closet. The perfect ingredients for a wardrobe that’s affordable, easy to maintain, and always in style. Just recently, I got Kevin two lovely-looking new Quince sweaters. One is a black Australian Merino Wool Cable Crewneck Sweater. The other is a true navy Mongolian cashmere crewneck sweater. I think he looks rather handsome in them. Plus, they’re super comfortable and easy to wear. I’m not one for expanding my style all that often, but Quince makes it so easy by offering prices 50% less than other brands. They cut out the middlemen and make it easy for you to spruce up your style this holiday season. Check them out now. Step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished, and last— from Quince. Perfect for gifting or keeping for yourself. Go to Quince dot com slash msheet for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That’s Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash msheet to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince dot com slash msheet.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Spin Docs is our new segment where we scrutinize true crime docuseries and documentaries. Today, we will speak about Netflix's Monster: The Ed Gein Story. This is the third season of Monster, a crime docudrama anthology series from Ryan Murphy and Ian Brennan. We are joined by a very special guest: Harold Schechter. Schechter wrote a definitive book on Gein: Deviant: The Shocking True Story of the Original "Psycho." He told us about some of the blatant inaccuracies in this season of Monster.Learn more about the true story of Ed Gein and get Schechter's book Deviant: The Shocking True Story of the Original "Psycho": https://bookshop.org/p/books/deviant-harold-schechter/89ed8968332485b8?ean=9781668048177&next=tCheck out Schechter's other terrific crime nonfiction books here or wherever you get your books: https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=Harold+SchechterFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Studying true crime tells us that sometimes, the worst can happen. There’s real danger out there, and you never know when it can strike within your own home.The big problem with traditional home security systems is that they react after an intruder is already breaking in or inside. After your safety and space has already been violated. That’s why we trust Simplisafe to protect our home. And you can too — Murder Sheet listeners are going to get a great deal during Simplisafe’s biggest sale of the year, getting 60% off when you go to Simplisafe dot com slash MSHEET.Our Simplisafe home security system is proactive. When your system detects potential criminals outside your residence, live agents are on it. They will confront potential criminals before they even break in, to let them know someone’s watching. That’s what Active Guard Outdoor Protection is all about. You don’t have to see any alerts. Monitoring agents take care of everything for you, confronting the intruders with the news that police are on the way, flashing spotlights, and sounding loud sirens. Plus, they have a 60 day money-back guarantee, so there’s no risk to you trying it out for yourself.That innovativeness is why we’ve used Simplisafe for years. We trust them to protect ourselves as well as our dog and executive producer Lani. As true crime podcasters, we know all too well how important — how live-saving — a home security system can be. Our home is where we relax. Where we work. Where we sleep at night. We want to feel protected all the time, because we know all the scary stories. And we trust Simplisafe to prevent those kinds of things from happening to us. Don’t miss out on SimpliSafe’s biggest sale of the year—60% off. Right now, our listeners can save 60% off on a SimpliSafe home security system at SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. That’s SimpliSafe dot com slash MSHEET. There’s no safe like SimpliSafe.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
On August 31, 1976, Patty Otto vanished from Lewiston, Idaho.On August 27, 1978, a group of hunters found human remains in the woods of Finley Creek, Oregon.Did they find Patty?Now, Patty's daughter Suzanne Timms and advocate Mel Jederberg are searching for answers.Check out Patty's Voice on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Pattys-Voice-100077422495262/And TikTok: tiktok.com/@pattysvoice22Check out Finley Creek Jane Doe on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/finleycreekjanedoe/And TikTok: tiktok.com/@finleycreekjanedoeCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC. You can’t live the good life without good sleep. Our sponsor Cornbread Hemp crafts quality CBD gummies to help with that. And they’ve been aiding us in the shut eye department even when we’re all wired after spending the day chasing down horrible murder cases.Cornbread Hemp’s sleep CBD gummies have valerian root, chamomile, lavender, and full spectrum hemp extract. They help us wind down. I struggle to fall asleep.I have a hard time staying asleep.These gummies from Cornbread Hemp have helped us both. Cornbread has helped me settle down at night, which I really appreciate. I feel myself getting sleepier and sleepier, until I drift off.   It’s the first USDA organic, melatonin-free CBD gummy in America. It’s gluten-free, vegan, and doesn’t have a sugar coating. It’s clean, natural, and the perfect addition to your wellness routine. CBD is non-intoxicating, and Cornbread’s CBD is third-party tested and USDA organic. Right now, Cornbread Hemp is offering 30% off your first order! Just go to cornbreadhemp.com/MSHEET and use code MSHEET at checkout. That’s cornbreadhemp.com/MSHEET, code MSHEET, for 30% off!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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kc

Richard Allen is innocent.

Aug 2nd
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Sara Duffy

watched every minute of the trial. Absolutely convinced she didn't hit him

Jul 7th
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Tammy Buchanan

Favorite thing about this conviction is that he maybe could have "gotten away with it," had he not been obsessed fascinated with his crime and come forward. Next, paraphrase of bloody muddy eyewitness, looked at cross, and answered NO. I'm a woman I don't go around helping men with blood on them in the wilderness. Question is commentary on how society does not acknowledge the difference of strength between men and women in crime circumstance. Most men don't get that internally.

Feb 14th
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Tammy Buchanan

Thumb screws analogy, especially in light of the tear through the blood and wounds, was offensive. If I am Abbie and Liberty's mom this makes me obsess whether my daughter would have chosen, at least in hindsight as a 20 something woman, to have undergone thumb screws and come home alive. This was absurd.

Feb 14th
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Charles White

HELLO BUDDY

Jan 22nd
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Charles White

BURGER CHEF MURDERS #1978 WAS TERRIBLE

Jan 22nd
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Charles White

HELLO THIS SAD

Dec 29th
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Steve Goodwin

The American speaking territories?!! United States, Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand?!!

Dec 3rd
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Jess H.

I simply cannot fathom him walking free. He will 100% do it again. He wasn't able to follow through with his intent. Makes me so sick to think he could be on our streets again. Just horrific to think. 😕

Nov 11th
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Melissa

I've been a listener for quite some time, unfortunately, you two have been bias since the beginning of this case. For two individuals who present themselves as professional and ethical humans, you are not. You two have proven you're both as much of a disgrace as Nancy Dis-Grace is.

Nov 7th
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Jess H.

Thank you for all you both do.

Oct 29th
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Jess H.

Appreciate you both greatly!

Oct 26th
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Jess H.

This man is so guilty and they are grasping at straws to defend him.

Oct 25th
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SARAH G

please can we have more of the evidence from the trial before the commentary and analysis. I like to know more of the facts and description of the photos so I can make my own mind up 😀

Oct 25th
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SARAH G

where were the knives in the bedroom? laid out on a table, in a drawer??

Oct 25th
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SARAH G

what did Allen actually say in the transcript to mullen about the route taken?

Oct 25th
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Jess H.

put yourself there in the same clothes but it's not you. make it make sense 🤦‍♀️

Oct 24th
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Jess H.

Yay can't wait to read the book. You 2 are awesome

Oct 18th
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Jess H.

Ridiculous. I am sorry you guys are dealing with her. I'm afraid because of her bizarre behavior this man may get away with this. 😫

Oct 18th
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Narelle Beres

Thank you for bringing this into the light. I am appalled at the content and language of these so called normal smart people. They all should be ashamed of themselves, acting like school children. Shame on you all. I feel for the family of these poor lost children.

Jul 17th
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