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The Need-to-Know podcast deals with the now acknowledged reality of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena or UAP. Its hosts are award-winning broadcasters and investigative journalists Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel. Every episode, they’ll look at what’s happened in the UAP/UFO world. Coulthart and Zabel discuss their current investigations, give each other advice, and seek to answer the big questions: who are they and what do they want?
Ross Coulthart’s work has been featured on Australia’s version of “60 Minutes.” And his documentary for Channel Seven Australia covering his UFO findings has been seen by more than ten million viewers. He is the author of In Plain Sight, in which he concludes that, while publicly dismissing the phenomenon for decades, governments have been seriously studying it all along and take it very seriously. Coulthart continues to report on the subject for Australian network television while working on investigations spawned by his book.
Bryce Zabel is an award-winning writer who has created or developed five primetime television drama series and worked on a dozen writing staffs. His feature credits include Mortal Kombat and Atlantis. His World War II film, The Last Battle, will shoot in the summer of 2024. Zabel was an original correspondent for CNN, and an award-winning investigative reporter for PBS. Zabel has authored his own UFO book, A.D. After Disclosure. He writes and edits the publication Trail of the Saucers that is read by more than 80,000 readers each month.
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This episode of Need to Know dives deep into a series of captivating topics, including upcoming congressional hearings on UAPs and the cast of witnesses set to testify, such as Lou Elizondo, Rear Admiral Timothy Gallaudet, and former NASA official Michael Gold. Ross shares his perspective on the potential impact of these hearings and the possible revelations from key figures, touching on themes of government transparency, national security, and the shadowy history surrounding UAP secrecy. Bryce and Ross also discuss recent U.S. political events, including how the return of Donald Trump to office might influence UAP disclosure, considering his past comments and interactions on the subject.
The conversation broadens as Ross previews his upcoming journey to Egypt, where he’ll explore connections between ancient civilizations and advanced technology with enthusiasts of Egyptian history and UAP phenomena. They also review two new UFO series currently streaming, including Investigation Alien on Netflix, where George Knapp’s work provides a new lens on cases like the Phoenix Lights and Kolaris incidents. This episode offers a thought-provoking look at the intersection of UAPs, political intrigue, and ancient mysteries, leaving the audience with plenty to anticipate in the coming months.
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In this episode of Need to Know, Richard Dolan joins the conversation to explore the fascinating subject of Unidentified Submerged Objects (USOs) and their historical significance. The discussion covers various aspects of USOs, including the vast number of sightings and incidents reported over centuries, their relation to UAPs, and how these submerged objects demonstrate extraordinary capabilities, such as entering and leaving the water without causing a splash. Dolan shares some of the most compelling cases, including the infamous Shag Harbor incident, and offers insights into his upcoming three-volume book on the history of USOs. The episode also touches on other related topics, such as the role of the Navy versus the Air Force in UAP investigations and a broader perspective on potential disclosure. Additionally, Dolan discusses Lue Elizondo’s new book Imminent and its connections to USOs, as well as his personal thoughts on the evolving UFO/UAP narrative. The episode ends with reflections on the future of disclosure and what it could mean for our understanding of these phenomena.
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2In this episode of Need to Know, Lue Elizondo joins Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel to discuss major developments in the UAP space, particularly following the release of his new book, Imminent. Elizondo sheds light on the ongoing disclosure process, touching on the frustrations with government secrecy, the slow pace of mainstream media coverage, and the obstacles whistleblowers like himself and David Grush face. The conversation dives into the mysteries surrounding the Roswell incident, crash retrievals, and non-human intelligence (NHI), while also addressing broader societal impacts of full UAP disclosure. Elizondo further shares thoughts on historical moments like the JFK assassination, noting potential connections to hidden truths about UAPs and covert government agendas. Other topics discussed include abductions, national security concerns, and the significance of capturing more high-definition evidence to advance the conversation on UAPs.
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In this episode, the discussion centers on the escalating developments in the UAP field, highlighted by Lue Elizondo's upcoming book, Imminent. The hosts delve into Elizondo's experiences and revelations, emphasizing his role as a pivotal figure in the ongoing disclosure movement. They touch on the implications of his work and the potential impact of his new book, which promises to shed light on previously undisclosed information. The episode also covers broader topics such as the influence of UAPs on global politics, the role of the media in covering these phenomena, and the potential consequences of disclosure. The conversation underscores the tension between the slow pace of official disclosure and the growing public awareness fueled by figures like Elizondo.
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In this episode of "Need to Know," Bryce Zabel and Ross Coulthart delve into the history of UFO phenomena, marking significant anniversaries from 1944 to the present day. The hosts discuss notable sightings and events, emphasizing that UFO encounters are not recent phenomena but part of a long-standing historical pattern. They touch on key incidents like the 1944 Foo Fighters, the 1974 John Lennon sighting, and the 1994 Ariel School encounter, highlighting both the historical depth and global nature of UFO sightings. The episode also addresses current legislative efforts concerning UFO transparency and the potential implications of upcoming U.S. presidential politics on UFO disclosure. The overarching theme is the persistent, yet elusive quest for clarity and disclosure within the UFO community, underscored by a call for historical awareness and government transparency.
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In this episode, Ross Coulthart reports from an undisclosed location in the U.S., sharing insights from the SCU conference in Huntsville, which concentrated on scientific approaches to UAPs. He reflects on a recent interview with Colonel Karl Nell, discussing Nell’s remarks about long-standing interactions between non-human intelligence (NHI) and humanity. Meanwhile, Bryce Zabel in Los Angeles connects the 80th anniversary of D-Day to contemporary secrecy around UAPs, emphasizing the impact of such secrecy on public trust and innovation. They explore the skepticism about governmental transparency on UAPs and consider how the political landscape might influence the push for disclosure, especially with the upcoming elections.
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In this episode, hosts Bryce Zabel and Ross Coulthart delve into the complexities of UAP investigations, spotlighting the AARO's dubious reporting and the Pentagon's evasion in acknowledging UAP incidents. They explore the recent Eglin Air Force Base encounter and the broader implications of drone sightings that challenge national security. The hosts critique the media's failure to engage deeply with these issues, emphasizing the need for greater transparency and investigative rigor in covering UAP and drone encounters. Featuring pilot testimonies and expert analysis, this episode uncovers the ongoing secrecy and the quest for truth in the increasingly convoluted field of ufology.
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It's an issue that's touched many in the UAP community, and worthy of a long discussion: fatigue from covering UAP, interacting with the community, fending off the flamers and trying to stay grounded. Bryce shares the tale of his ten-year hiatus while Ross commends Curt Jaimungal's recent decision to 'step away' for a while. But there's also hope, says Ross, citing three members of Congress and their attempts to interview an Air Force pilot over his 2023 sighting - and the video he captured.
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Ross and Bryce take turns teeing off on the Defense Department's report that was supposed to chronicle the US government's history of dealing with the UFO/UAP issue. Among their conclusions about the reports "conclusions:" It's more Pentagon obfuscation to deter public attention; a kneejerk polemic against former AARO head Sean Kirkpatrick's critics; not a hint of historical review; and from a couple of lawmakers who talked to Ross: Congress is NOT letting this issue go.
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"Voldemort," in this podcast, is Bryce's new name for Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the now-former head of AARO, the Defense Department's "All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office." Bryce and Ross rip Kirkpatrick's exit statements, including his assertion that a soon to be released Pentagon report will say it's found no evidence of aliens, only allegations circulated repeatedly by UFO claim advocates. The other big event in the episode: "Need to Know," the song! Bryce explains the history of the song he co-composed - and we play it!
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Bryce and Ross begin 2024 with a quick look back at the big events of last year: David Grusch's revelations and the gutting of the Schumer Amendment to the Defense bill. Then they look ahead to this year and an upcoming House Oversight Committee hearing, Lue Elizondo's book and Grusch's op-ed piece on the heels of the US government slightly loosening what he's able to reveal. And Ross drops a big hint about what could be a very big story: new data from the James Webb Space Telescope.
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Disappointment and some disagreements in this episode, as Ross and Bryce review the amended version of Sen. Chuck Schumer's disclosure language in the new Defense bill. Ross blames "lickspittle Congressmen" in the pockets of the aerospace companies for turning Schumer's disclosure proposals into a "flaccid limp lettuce leaf." The two set the table for a future discussion on what both believe would be a very bad idea: "catastrophic disclosure."
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Approaching the 60th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Bryce and Ross examine the similarities between the efforts to conceal the truth about the President's death and concealing the truth about UFO/UAP. Also: as predicted in the last episode, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick is, indeed, leading AARO. So who will succeed him? And will that person bring a different opinion about whistleblower David Grusch?
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Ross and Bryce catch up on several developments of the past few weeks, including the latest report from AARO. Ross calls out what he labels "completely disingenuous" statements by the agency's head, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, downplaying the UAP reports the agency reviewed in the 2023 US Government fiscal year. Ross calls the report "The Big Yawn." Ross and Bryce disagree on whether private aerospace firms, who've spent millions of their own dollars on crash retrieval, should be forced to turn any physical evidence over to the government. And Bryce reviews the high points of 1948, a banner year that saw dozens of credible UFO/UAP sightings.
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Ross and Bryce are back with tough words for what they call the "word games" being played by the Department of Defense, NASA and others in the US government about the evidence - or lack of evidence - regarding what we know about UAP and the possibility of non-human intelligence. Bryce scorches NASA Director Bill Nelson over his "lack of evidence" comments, and Ross takes an AP reporter to task for apparently not even reading a government report before questioning officials about that very report. And the hosts do a "lighting round" of comments on several other recent UAP developments.
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They expected it, and it's here: serious attempts to discredit Defense Department UFO whistleblower David Grusch. Ross summarizes what he calls the "slimeball" attempts to vilify Grusch, including the exploitation of his battle with PTSD. Ross notes that The Pentagon has always known about that, and gave Grusch a very, very high security clearance, anyway. Bryce and Ross also wonder if the momentum in Congress to explore the government's history of UAP research has been lost. They discuss the very intense effort to remove UAP language from the Defense Authorization Act. And Bryce, who's just back from Sweden, recounts one of the earliest documented UAP encounters - just after World War II in Sweden.
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We have contact! No, not that kind. Ross has made contact with Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, head of The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office. Ross shares his email exchange with Kirkpatrick, including the Latin motto on his email signature. Ross and Bryce talk about what may, or should, be the next level of Congressional hearings (maybe the full Intelligence Committee, not just a sub-committee). Ross really wants the intelligence community's Inspector General at that next hearing to answer one important question. And both have advice for nudging your lawmaker about the UAP issue: forget email, write a real letter!
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Ross and Bryce share their first impressions of the House Oversight Committee's national security subcommittee hearing on UAP. Whistleblower David Grusch was joined by two former military pilots who reported UAP years ago. Ross and Bryce say it was a big day - the first of what they hope will be more to come. The witnesses deferred several questions to a closed-door hearing, and Ross tore into the Defense Department for its "statement" on whether DoD has any evidence of non-human intelligence. They also noted Grusch's phrase "administrative terrorism" in describing some of what he's gone through since coming forward.
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That would be Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-NY, the Senate Majority Leader. Ross says a proposed amendment to next year's National Defense Authorization Act contains explicit references to non-human intelligence - and there must be a reason for that vetted language. A reason that the Senator knows. Bryce raises this issue of the "controlled disclosure" of UAP information the government may have. And who "owns" crash wreckage or any other material that's been sitting in labs and warehouses for decades?
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Ross and Bryce reflect on the incredible developments of the past months, starting with Ross's interview of former government UAP investigator David Grusch. They agree that more is happening on the UAP front than ever before - especially in the US government. They note that three Congressional committees are considering language that explicitly refers to life and material of non-earth origin. And both agree: this is a great time to be alive.
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