New Era FinTech Podcast

A podcast about FinTech, banking, digital transformation and the world around it, with a strong focus on the Middle East region

Episode 57: Sal Ghaznavi, former CFO at Careem (Uber)

In this episode, I meet Sal Ghaznavi, an executive with 18 years of cross-sectoral work experience, spanning across the UAE, Ireland, Bermuda, and Pakistan, with experience working within FinTech and tech startups. Sal has held key finance and commercial leadership positions at Careem (Uber) - the Middle East, North Africa, and Pakistan’s first and largest unicorn, operating in the ride-hailing, food and grocery delivery, and digital payments space. Sal shares valuable insights into the business environment and opportunities in the Middle East, particularly in the UAE. He highlights the region's high smartphone and internet penetration rates, the approachable regulators, and the government's focus on making the UAE a leader in various industries. Sal also discusses the safety and security of living in the UAE, the cost of living, and the growth potential for businesses. He advises individuals interested in working in the UAE to network, conduct thorough research, and understand the cultural dynamics of the region. For FinTech companies looking to expand into the UAE, Sal emphasises the importance of having 'boots on the ground', building relationships, and understanding the regulatory landscape. You can find out more and connect with Sal via his LinkedIn profile. Takeaways The UAE offers tremendous growth opportunities for businesses, with a welcoming and approachable regulatory environment. The region has high smartphone and internet penetration rates, making it conducive for internet-based companies. Living in the UAE is safe and secure, with a diverse and multicultural environment. For individuals interested in working in the UAE, it is important to network, do thorough research, and understand the cultural dynamics of the region. Fintech companies looking to expand into the UAE should have boots on the ground, build relationships, and understand the regulatory landscape. Chapters 00:00 Remote Recording and Audio Quality 01:49 Sal's Background and Experience in the Middle East and Europe 04:46 Tech Startups and Super Apps in the Middle East 09:42 Living in the UAE: Safety, Diversity, and Growth Opportunities 14:18 The Cost of Living in Dubai 18:25 Finding Job Opportunities in the UAE 20:46 Advice for Moving to the UAE 24:28 Expanding Fintech into the GCC Market 28:48 Approaching the GCC Market as a Supplier or Vendor 31:53 Sal Ghaznavi's Move to London and Opportunities in the Fintech Industry 32:35 Contacting Sal Ghaznavi on LinkedIn Keywords UAE, Careem, Uber, Middle East, Europe, business expansion, fintech, opportunities, safety, security, cost of living, growth potential, networking, relationships, regulatory landscape

07-29
33:06

Episode 56: Santander UK's chatbot walkthrough

In this episode, I show you a series of screenshots I took as I walked through the process of requesting a replacement debit card using Santander UK's chatbot, Sandi. This might be one of those episodes that you might want to watch, rather than just listen to -- you can watch on Spotify, or you can watch the video on the podcast's YouTube channel. Summary Ewan reviews the chatbot capabilities of Santander UK. He compares it to other banks and highlights the strengths and weaknesses of their chatbot systems. Ewan is impressed with Santander's chatbot, called Sandi, as it efficiently handles a simple task of replacing a damaged debit card. He praises Santander for its user-friendly interface, quick response time, and seamless process. Ewan encourages other banks, such as NatWest and Lloyds, to improve their chatbot capabilities to match Santander's level of efficiency. Sound Bites "This is best in class. Absolutely best in class." "NatWest, read this and weep." "Santander, thank you very much for making such a great capability." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Chatbots and Santander UK 02:17 Comparing Chatbot Capabilities: Santander vs. NatWest vs. Lloyds 06:09 The Importance of Simplicity in Chatbot Interactions 09:03 Santander UK's Best-in-Class Chatbot Experience 10:31 Encouraging Banks to Improve Chatbot Capabilities Takeaways Santander UK's chatbot, Sandi, provides a best-in-class user experience for replacing a damaged debit card. Santander's chatbot is efficient, user-friendly, and provides quick responses. Other banks, such as NatWest and Lloyds, have room for improvement in their chatbot capabilities. Ewan MacLeod encourages banks to prioritize user experience and streamline their chatbot processes. Keywords chatbots, Santander UK, Sandi, customer service, banking, user experience

07-26
15:22

CVC Series: Episode 2 - Simon Hardie from Findexable

Welcome to the second episode in our dedicated Corporate Venture Capital ("CVC") series here on New Era FinTech Podcast. Today we're meeting Simon Hardie, CEO and founder of Findexable. Simon discusses the importance of innovation in the CVC space and. emphasizes the need for organizations to have a clear understanding of what innovation means to them and to measure its impact. Hardie also highlights the opportunities in emerging markets, particularly in the Middle East and Africa, where there is still significant room for growth in the fintech sector. Simon advises organizations to conduct deep research and gain insights into the market and potential investment opportunities. Additionally, he stresses the importance of having the right team, stakeholders, and decision-making processes in place for successful CVC initiatives. If you'd like to find out more about Simon, he's available on LinkedIn. His company website is http://www.findexable.com. Chapters 00:00 Background and Introduction to Findexable 06:12 Challenges and Tensions in Financial Services Innovation 09:13 Success Factors for Corporate Venture Capital 11:28 Opportunities in the Marketplace and Middle East Africa 20:17 Working with Findexable and Best Practices 25:43 Conclusion and Contact Information Takeaways Organizations need to have a clear understanding of what innovation means to them and measure its impact. Emerging markets, particularly in the Middle East and Africa, offer significant opportunities for growth in the fintech sector. Deep research and insights are crucial for identifying market opportunities and potential investments. Having the right team, stakeholders, and decision-making processes in place is essential for successful corporate venture capital initiatives. Keywords simon hardie, findexable, innovation, corporate venture capital, CVC, financial services, emerging markets, Middle East, Africa, research, insights, team, decision-making

07-12
33:01

CVC Series: Episode 1, Grant Niven from Mingzulu

Welcome to the first episode in our dedicated Corporate Venture Capital ("CVC") series here on the New Era FinTech Podcast. In today's episode, Grant Niven, founder and partner of Mingzulu joins me to discuss the role of CVC in the fintech and financial services ecosystem. Grant gives us an overview of his background in financial services as well as his experience working with growth-stage founders, established banks, and the investment community. Together we define the concept of CVC and explore the different types of CVC methodologies generally in use. We set out the main drivers behind why financial institutions choose to engage in CVC, (i.e. maximizing returns, strategic alignment, speed to market) -- and we discuss the challenges and considerations in setting up a CVC unit within an organization such as a bank. Grant shares insights on the questions and concerns financial institutions have when considering CVC and the need for a clear understanding of the value CVC can bring to the organization. If you'd like to discuss financial services CVC with Grant and the team, reach out to him directly on LinkedIn here: Grant Niven. His company website is here: Mingzulu.com. Standby for the next CVC series episode coming very shortly! If you've any recommendations for individuals we should be featuring across the CVC series, please send me a note to ewan@ned.partners. Takeaways Corporate venture capital (CVC) is a strategic investment by a corporation in external startups or ventures, with objectives that go beyond financial returns. CVC allows established organizations to innovate, partner with startups, and gain access to new technologies and markets. The main types of CVC methodologies include financial returns-focused, strategic-focused, and hybrid models that balance both objectives. Organizations engage in CVC to maximize returns, achieve strategic alignment, and gain speed to market. Setting up a CVC unit within an organization requires careful consideration of the strategic intent, operationalization, and governance. The founder community in the Middle East is generally open to the idea of corporate venture capital (CVC) and sees it as an opportunity for growth and scaling. Speed and alignment are crucial in CVC partnerships, and founders look for organizations that can move quickly and provide long-term support. Clear strategy and top-down support from the organization are essential for successful CVC initiatives. Diversity in cap tables and collaboration with other investors can be attractive to founders. Financial institutions considering CVC need to have a clear understanding of the value it can bring to the organization and align it with their strategic goals. Internal processes and governance can be a challenge in implementing CVC, and organizations may need to consider external partnerships. The Middle East offers significant opportunities for growth and innovation in the CVC space, particularly in sectors like e-commerce and telecommunications. Governments and central banks play a role in supporting the CVC ecosystem through initiatives like sandboxing and regulatory transformation. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to CVC in Fintech 02:50 Understanding CVC: Strategic Alignment and Financial Gain 07:35 Differentiating CVC from Traditional Venture Capital 13:49 CVC as a Tool for Innovation and Brand Enhancement 22:49 CVC's Need for Speed and Operationalization 24:01 Engaging with Founders in the CVC Journey 24:57 The Challenges of Funding for Founders 26:41 Strategic Alignment and Acceleration Opportunities 27:36 Diversity of Cap Tables and Complementary Investors 28:10 The Appeal of CVC for Founders 29:50 Setting Up a Successful CVC 35:31 Outsourcing CVC to Established Players 41:16 The Growth Potential of CVC in the Middle East and Africa

07-10
46:24

Episode 53: Eric Fulwiler of Rival on better FinTech marketing

In today's episode, I'm sitting down with Eric Fulwiler, Co-Founder and CEO of Rival, the digital marketing powerhouse. Eric's storied background with the likes of 11:FS (he was CMO) and VaynerMedia (the GaryV company) means he's precisely the guy I wanted to put in front of you to discuss your marketing. FinTech companies tend to really struggle with Sales and Marketing. I know dozens who find it such a hard nut to crack. So I spent this episode firing questions at Eric about how FinTech CEOs should really be thinking about managing their Marketing -- and by extension, their sales. Eric gives nugget after nugget of perspective that I think will be useful for almost every FinTech leader. In more detail In this conversation, Ewan and Eric discuss the challenges that fintech companies face when it comes to marketing and engaging with banks. Eric emphasizes the importance of crafting a differentiated narrative and focusing on relevant, authentic, and differentiated content experiences to earn the attention of the target audience. He also suggests that marketing should be more like a media company, with a focus on collecting, retaining, and monetizing attention. Eric highlights the need for marketing to generate future demand and tells a story that is different and adds value to the audience. He also mentions some companies that are doing good work in this space, such as Strise and Move. Takeaways Craft a differentiated narrative and focus on relevant, authentic, and differentiated content experiences to earn the attention of the target audience. Marketing should function more like a media company, with a focus on collecting, retaining, and monetizing attention. Tell a story that is different and adds value to the audience, rather than just focusing on the features of the product or technology. Build a brand that is recognized and trusted by the target audience, which can lead to warm leads and stronger relationships. Consider innovative and differentiated approaches to marketing, such as hosting unique events or partnering with mini media companies. Utilize paid advertising effectively to distribute content and experiences to the target audience. Consider acquiring or partnering with mini media companies to leverage their existing awareness and trust with the target audience.

07-08
28:51

Episode 52: HSBC's chatbot walkthrough

Here's a screenshot walkthrough of the HSBC UK chatbot -- calling it Conversational AI is somewhat of a stretch. I've also recorded this for my other project, Conversational AI News. I would recommend you watch this one on Spotify so you can follow along with the screens, or you can find it on my LinkedIn profile or directly on the Conversational AI post.

07-03
12:23

Episode 51: Chatbot head-to-head (Lloyds vs NatWest)

In this episode, I'm putting the Lloyds Bank chatbot head-to-head with the NatWest chatbot and see how both systems handle the same enquiry. At the start of the episode, I begin by outlining the concept of Conversational AI chatbots and then I do a screenshot walk-through of each chatbot's responses as I experienced it. This episode is best watched, rather than listened to - so I would recommend checking it out via Spotify so you can see the video.

07-01
28:14

Episode 49: Key strategies for selling to banks with Dan Ilett of Tollejo

In this episode, I'm talking with Dan Ilett of Tollejo about sales and marketing techniques for FinTech companies selling to banks. We discuss the importance of building relationships, understanding customer needs, and differentiating from competitors. Dan emphasizes the need for collaboration between sales and marketing teams and the value of listening to customers. He also introduces the concept of "The Mirror", a research approach that helps companies gather feedback from customers and align their messaging and positioning. Dan recommends engaging with advisors and focusing on nurturing relationships with potential customers. Something very close to my heart -- because I've been going on about this for a long time. If you'd like to discuss these ideas with Dan, drop him a note via his LinkedIn profile or direct at dan at tollejo.com. Takeaways Building relationships and understanding customer needs are crucial for FinTech companies selling to banks. Collaboration between sales and marketing teams is essential for effective sales and marketing strategies. Listening to customers and gathering feedback through research programs like the Mirror can help companies align their messaging and positioning. Engaging with advisors and nurturing relationships with potential customers are effective tactics for driving sales. Sound Bites "Getting known before you walk in the door is one of the most important things you can do in this space." "The most important column in your pipeline is the nurture column." "Most companies have more relationships than they think." Chapters 00:00 Introduction: Selling to Banks in FinTech 01:07 Background and Building Communities 03:21 The Value of Executive Summaries in Bids 06:06 The Importance of Getting Known Beforehand 07:25 The Limitations of Cold Calling 09:40 The Power of Third Party Validation 13:34 The Role of Marketing and Sales Collaboration 14:16 The Importance of Listening to Customers 16:37 Understanding Customer Needs and Aligning Messaging 16:46 The Mirror: Gathering Feedback and Insights 18:08 Aligning the Team's Understanding of Value Proposition 20:30 Differentiation in Messaging and Positioning 22:35 Building Relationships and an Advisory Board 32:50 Starting with a Listening Exercise Keywords sales, marketing, FinTech, banks, relationships, customer needs, differentiation, collaboration, listening, Mirror, research, advisors, nurturing

04-15
33:45

Episode 48: Is it time to launch eSIM data roaming in your bank mobile app?

In today's episode, I'm discussing the opportunity of launching an eSIM roaming offering for your bank. I think this can be a compelling additional service feature (and fee earner) for many institutions. I talk through my thinking and give some suggestions for the vendors that banks might consider to talk with including (in no particular order) gigs.com, 1Global, Airalo and Holafly. Also Breeze given their recent announcement with Western Union. Other vendors are available I'm sure! (I don't have any relationships with these companies.)

03-28
26:37

Episode 47: Getting out from behind your desk

In today's episode, I'm discussing the importance of getting out from behind your desk (again). This was inspired by a conversation I had with a bank CIO last week discussing techniques and ideas of 'staying up to date' when you're surrounded by pressure on a constant basis! This one is mostly aimed at senior executives working in banks. Let me know what you think!

03-26
27:27

Episode 46: Roundtables - a guide for FinTech vendors

In today's episode, I am discussing roundtables. This is an ultra-compressed version of the workshops I regularly host for FinTechs interested in learning how to host effective roundtables for bank executives. I've been to a lot of them as a bank executive and I've experienced some great ones... and some not-so-great ones. I have compressed many of the points into this episode -- so if you've got a roundtable coming up, I hope this can be useful. As always, if you need any advice or perspective, or if you need someone to host your upcoming roundtable, please reach out.

03-22
49:38

Episode 45: Tom Green from Uqudo

I have long been a fan of identity and authentication player, Uqudo and today I'm bringing you an interview with their Chief Operating Officer, Tom Green. I asked Tom to give us an overview of Uqudo and the company's offerings and to comment on some of the trends he is seeing in the wider marketplace around the topic of digital identity and verification. You can find Tom's profile on LinkedIn right here.

02-20
17:28

Episode 44: James Barker of Tech Market Access on the business of sales

I have been banging on about the importance of the right sales methodology for FinTech companies for the longest time. In today's episode, I sit down with Sales expert, James Barker of Tech Market Access, to discuss the business of sales. James talks about his approach to enabling financial technology vendors to best engage and then convert prospects. You can find James on his LinkedIn profile.

02-12
25:04

Episode 43: Tesco Bank and Banking as a Service (BaaS)

In today's episode, I'm discussing the LinkedIn post I wrote about the news that Barclays Bank will buy Tesco Bank for about GBP 700M. My post was asking what things would look like, instead of selling the bank, Tesco -- the British supermarket behemoth -- moved everything to run on top of a Banking as a Service provider. How would this work? Could it work? What are the possibilities? I recorded this podcast to explore the topic in a bit more detail. Some of the providers I mentioned are Griffin, The Bank of London, NatWest Boxed, Clear Bank and audax. There are many more to consider.

02-09
23:35

Episode 42: Lana Brandorne on Stockholm FinTech Week

In this episode, I sit down with Lana Brandorne, co-founder of Stockholm FinTech Week to find out more about the event (12-16th February next week) and to get her view of the growing FinTech ecosystem in the country. You can connect directly with Lana on her LinkedIn profile and book tickets at the Stockholm FinTech Week website. If you're heading to the event, do let me know and let's see if we can meet for a coffee.

02-08
22:30

Episode 41: Get yourself to Stockholm!

In this episode, I'm previewing the interview I've got coming up with Lana Brandorne, co-founder of Stockholm FinTech Week. I briefly discuss the Swedish (and Nordic) ecosystems and suggest that visiting the event next week in Sweden could be a good idea, especially if you're aiming to connect with banks, vendors and other suppliers driving the FinTech ecosystem in the Nordics. Let me know if we can say hello or have a coffee -- the quickest way to contact me is via my LinkedIn profile. Standby for the interview with Lana coming shortly.

02-07
04:32

Episode 50: Claus Nielsen from CX Facts

In this episode, I'm meeting Claus Nielsen from CX Facts. CX Facts is a platform that provides customer perception data to banks and large corporates. Claus explains that while transactional data is readily available, there is a lack of customer perception data, which is crucial for understanding how customers view the bank's products and services. CX Facts aims to bridge this gap by offering a SaaS tool that allows banks to collect feedback from customers in real-time and analyze the data through a dashboard. This helps banks and corporates optimize their banking relationships and improve customer satisfaction. Takeaways CX Facts provides a SaaS tool that allows banks and large corporates to collect customer perception data in real-time. Transactional data is readily available, but there is a lack of customer perception data, which is crucial for understanding how customers view the bank's products and services. The platform allows banks to ask as many customers as they wish, as often as they wish, and provides a dashboard for analyzing the data. CX Facts helps banks and corporates optimize their banking relationships and improve customer satisfaction. Improving Banking Relationships with CX Facts Bridging the Gap: CX Facts and Customer Perception Data "We had transactional data, but we didn't necessarily know what did the customers think of us." "We can build a solution where banks get access to a SaaS tool where they can ask as many customers as they wish, as often as they wish, do it globally, and then have a dashboard where they can, of course, dice and slice the data." "There's an underlying dissatisfaction, unfortunately, but they can't, of course, everyone's being polite and often over lunch or the like, but they don't have that data." Keywords: Claus Nielsen, CX Facts, customer perception data, banking relationships, customer satisfaction, SaaS tool, real-time feedback Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:32 Issues with Customer Perception Data in Banking 06:16 The Importance of Customer Experience 12:10 Targeting Treasury and Banking Teams 19:25 Trends in Customer Feedback

06-27
19:32

Episode 40: Getting in the room with banks

In this episode, I'm doing a mini summary of the workshop I regularly host for fintechs, regtechs and vendors selling to banks. In many firms, the marketing, sales and business development is somewhat disjointed - often because it's been working really well that way in the past. Now though, it's increasingly difficult to connect to the target bank executives if you don't already know them. In this taster, I take you through some of the topics I like to discuss during my workshops. If you'd like to know more, drop me a note and let's have a conversation: I'm ewan@ned.partners.

01-25
51:10

Episode 39: Subaio & subscription management

In this episode, I'm discussing the subscription management pioneer Subaio. Just last week I was with the company at their 2024 offsite and held a workshop with them on the topic of "a day in the life of a banking executive". Thank you to the Subaio management for the opportunity to contribute and thank you to the whole team for their great welcome and hospitality. You can find more about Subaio at http://www.subaio.com.

01-21
17:01

Episode 38: Engaging with bank executives

In this episode, I discuss some techniques and ideas around how to think about engaging with bank executives in the context of introducing your product or service to them in the most effective manner.

01-16
26:50

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