No Bras Required

You know that moment when your kid gets in the car and announces, "My coach hates me"? And suddenly your inner mama bear is grabbing her broom, putting on her shoes, and preparing to send a 1700-word email. Yep. We've been there. This week, we're talking about one of the most important skills we can help our kids develop, coachability. Not obedience. Not blindly doing whatever an adult says. And definitely not raising kids who never question anything. We're talking about helping kids learn how to hear feedback without immediately thinking, "I'm terrible," ask questions when they don't understand, handle disappointment, advocate for themselves, and then actually do something with the feedback they've been given. Because eventually, our kids are going to have coaches, teachers, bosses, directors, professors, colleagues and all sorts of people telling them, "Hey, you could do this better." Our job isn't to make sure they never hear it. Our job is to help them know what to do when they hear it. In this episode, we chat about: What being genuinely coachable actually looks like Why correction can so easily become "I'm bad" in a child's mind The difference between feedback about performance and feedback about worth Why perfectionist and high-achieving kids can struggle when things suddenly get hard How the words we use as parents and coaches can accidentally create unhelpful associations Why "good girl" might not always land the way we intend The difference between being uncomfortable because you're growing and being uncomfortable because something isn't right Why kids need to learn that knowing more than them isn't an insult, it means they're in the right room How to teach kids to advocate for themselves respectfully Why correction is not rejection How parents can support their kids without immediately jumping in to rescue them What to do when your child says, "My coach hates me" Why we should get curious before we get angry The importance of allowing kids to experience disappointment, frustration and failure Why we love the phrase, "Do you want to be heard, helped or hugged?" How to praise effort, resilience and behaviour instead of simply labelling kids as "talented" or "good" Why sometimes the best response to feedback is simply, "Thank you" And, importantly, how to teach kids the difference between being challenged and being genuinely unsafe or mistreated And yes, there may also be a few stories about Oscar winners, historians, attorneys, negotiators, lactose-intolerant children and parents ready to launch a full-scale investigation into casting decisions. Because apparently, correcting a child's pointed toe can become a family emergency. One thing we really want you to remember: Your child doesn't need to leave every room feeling like the best one in it. They need to learn how to leave a room knowing how to get better. Because eventually, we won't be standing next to them fixing everything. And that's really the goal.

We made it to a whole year! What started as two studio-owning mums sitting down to talk about life, business, kids, leadership, menopause, marriage, boundaries, bras, and basically everything in between has somehow turned into 52 episodes. So obviously, we needed three episodes to celebrate our anniversary. In this one, we're looking back at the lessons, laughs, questionable decisions, and big conversations that have shaped our first year of No Bras Required. We're talking about the leadership lessons we wish we'd known 10 years ago, why being a leader is really about serving the people around you, and why sometimes the best thing you can do is stop rescuing everyone and let them be uncomfortable. We also get into procrastination, communication, boundaries, changing your mind, being successful and exhausted at the same time, motherhood, marriage, menopause, and the very important life advice of sometimes just taking off your bra, having a snack, and going to bed. Because apparently that is a business strategy now. In this episode: Why leadership isn't about being "the boss", it's about serving the people you're trusted to lead. The difference between managing people and actually developing leaders. Why you need to stop rescuing your team and let people learn from their mistakes. How procrastination can be a pretty good clue that you're avoiding something uncomfortable. Why boundaries aren't mean, and why "clear is kind." The power of picking up the phone instead of sending 47 increasingly awkward emails. Why you are allowed to change your mind about your business, your goals, your life, or what success looks like. The reminder that you can be successful and exhausted at the same time, but you don't have to stay exhausted forever. Why your kids don't need perfect mums, they need present mums. And, of course, why sometimes the answer really is to take off your bra, grab a snack, and go to bed. Most importantly, we talk about what this first year has really meant to us. When we started, we wanted this podcast to feel like two girlfriends sitting on the couch, hashing out life together. A year later, that's still exactly what we want it to be. Because we've talked about everything from diapers to death, and somehow we keep coming back to the same message: You're not the only one. We're all figuring it out. We're all changing. We're all getting things wrong. And we're all allowed to laugh at ourselves along the way. Thanks for being part of year one. Now let's see what year two brings. And remember, sometimes you don't need another strategy. You just need to take off your bra, have a snack, and go to bed.

We thought we were going to finish our anniversary recap in one episode. Spoiler alert: we did not. Because apparently Patti and Meghan have 17 talking points, approximately zero ability to stay on topic, and far too much to say about heating pads, leadership, parenting, vacuums and getting older. So welcome to Part Two of our anniversary episode. This week, we're looking back at some of the conversations that made us laugh, cry, think, panic before hitting publish, and occasionally wonder whether we'd accidentally cancelled our own podcast. We also get into one particular Reel that went a LOT further than we ever expected. What started as a little leadership gold nugget about asking your team, "Why are you asking me this?", turned into a much bigger conversation about leadership, assumptions, internet opinions, and the fact that apparently people can decide your entire personality based on 60 seconds of video. And honestly? There was a lot to learn from that. Then we disappear down the parenting rabbit hole, because obviously we do. We talk about what we thought motherhood would be versus what it actually became, the parts of parenting our brains have conveniently deleted, watching our kids leave home, and the strange new world of empty nests, quieter houses and eating Kit Kats for dinner because, well, we're adults and we can do whatever we want. We also have a very important conversation about getting older and becoming the people we used to make fun of. Comfortable shoes? Suddenly fascinating. Sleep? Extremely important. Parking? Weirdly important. Thermostats? A serious matter. Vacuums? Don't even get us started. And finally, we confess a few things from the CEO chair, including what we wish we'd known about leadership ten years ago, the mistakes we've both made, and the lesson that sometimes you can believe deeply in someone's potential while still recognizing that they aren't the right person for the role. This episode covers: The podcast episodes that made us laugh, cry and think Why the "Permission to Pivot" and "Gift of Ordinary Days" conversations still stick with us The viral leadership clip that got people talking Why asking "Why are you asking me this?" can actually be a leadership question, not a judgment What motherhood looked like in our heads versus what it actually became The strange emotional shift when your kids start leaving home Why May-cember needs to be a thing, and why September deserves its own ridiculous name The things we suddenly care about now that we're older, including soft pants, comfortable shoes and cooling car seats What we wish we'd known about leadership ten years ago Learning to trust your gut, especially when something isn't working Why we've learned to put safeguards around our belief in people The hiring lessons we learned the hard way And yes... We're doing a Part Three. Because apparently we still haven't made it through the list. If you've been listening for a while, we'd love to know which episode has been your favourite so far. And if you're newer around here, this is your sign to go back and have a little podcast binge. We've got plenty of conversations waiting for you. Find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube, and come hang out with us for the next episode. Coffee or tequila. You know the drill.

🎉 ONE YEAR. FIFTY EPISODES. ZERO BRAS REQUIRED. Well, friends... somehow we made it. One whole year of No Bras Required. Fifty episodes of business chats, parenting chaos, marriage complaints, menopause moments, leadership lessons, Costco love, questionable segues and enough unsolicited advice to keep us talking for approximately another 47 years. Honestly, when we hit record on episode one, we had absolutely no idea what this little podcast would become. We just knew two things: Patti and Meghan had a lot to say. Someone, somewhere, might need to hear it. And apparently... you did. In this first part of our anniversary celebration, we're looking back at where this whole thing started, what we've gotten right, what we've definitely gotten wrong, the conversations we never expected to have publicly and the moments that made us realise, "Oh wow, people are actually listening to us." We revisit everything from the origin story of No Bras Required, to parenting teenagers, rescuing our kids too much, annoying husbands who breathe incorrectly, menopause rage, the invisible workload of women and the shocking realisation that comfortable shoes are now a personality trait. We also talk about why this podcast has never fit neatly into one category. Because neither do we. We're business owners. We're mums. We're wives. We're friends. We're educators. We're navigating grief, aging parents, launching kids into adulthood, changing bodies, changing businesses and all the messy bits of real life in between. And honestly? That's kind of the whole point. This podcast was never supposed to be polished perfection. It's supposed to feel like sitting down with two girlfriends in soft pants, coffee or tequila nearby, laughing about life and occasionally saying the thing everyone else is thinking but doesn't want to say out loud. So grab your drink of choice and come celebrate with us. Because this is only Part One... and trust us, we still have plenty to talk about. IN THIS EPISODE, WE TALK ABOUT: 🎉 Celebrating one year and 50 episodes of No Bras Required 👯‍♀️ How the podcast name came to be and why it instantly felt like us 🎙️ What we thought this podcast would become... and why we intentionally didn't put it in a box 💬 The messages from listeners that remind us why these conversations matter 😂 What we've gotten right, including never being able to stay on one topic ⏰ What we've gotten wrong, mainly our complete inability to set a timer 🧠 The invisible workload women carry and why we need more grace for each other 💍 Marriage, annoying husbands, dishwasher arguments and seasons of romance 🛟 Why rescuing everyone isn't actually helping them 👩‍👧 Parenting teenagers and letting our kids learn how to adult 👵 The many things we're officially too old for, including uncomfortable jeans and standing at concerts ❤️ The deeper conversations we never expected to have about grief, death, parenting, mental health, money and identity 🎧 Why No Bras Required will probably never fit into one neat little category... and why we're perfectly okay with that And don't worry, friends. We're not done reflecting yet. Part Two is coming next week, and we're diving even further into the viral moments, parenting, May-December and all the ways we've become the people we used to make fun of. So stay tuned. And as always... Bras are optional. Soft pants are strongly encouraged.

September has arrived, and apparently everyone is supposed to magically have their life together. Backpacks? Packed. Lunchboxes? Somewhere. Dance schedules? Hopefully. Business plan? Definitely. Emotional stability? Let's not get carried away. In this episode of No Bras Required, Patti and Meghan are talking about the absolute juggle that is September, especially when you're a mum, a business owner, or both. They chat about the chaos of back-to-school spending, becoming the family taxi service again, the mental load that changes as your kids get older, and the strange mix of pride and sadness that comes with sending your kids off into the world. For Patti and Meghan, this September feels particularly different. Their kids are growing up, some have left home, and they're both discovering what this next season of motherhood actually looks like. And then there's the business side. September isn't just a fresh start for the kids. For many studio owners, it's the real beginning of the business year. It's time to get the team back into rhythm, execute the plans you made months ago, communicate clearly with families, and resist the temptation to try to do absolutely everything yourself. Basically, it's a lot. But underneath all the chaos is a really lovely reminder: sometimes the thing we're grieving is also the thing we worked so hard to create. In this episode, we chat about: Why September can feel even more chaotic than December. The back-to-school juggle, including the never-ending expense of getting kids ready. The invisible mental load that changes as our children grow. The strange combination of relief, worry and freedom when your kids start driving. Why September is actually the start of the business year for many dance studios. The importance of planning your year ahead instead of constantly reacting. How good communication can make a huge difference to your studio families. Why parents need information in both big-picture and bite-sized formats. The emotional reality of becoming an empty nester. Learning that you can be incredibly proud of your kids while still grieving the version of motherhood that's changing. Rediscovering yourself, your relationship and your freedom when the kids need you differently. And, naturally, the possibility of puppies. The big takeaway You don't have to choose between being excited about what's next and feeling sad about what's changing. Both can be true. Your kids can grow up, leave home and need you less in the everyday sense, while still needing your advice, your recipes, your support and, apparently, your homemade food. And maybe this next season gets to be about you, too.