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Author: Des Linden and Kara Goucher

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Once competitors and Olympic teammates, now friends and podcast partners, Des Linden and Kara Goucher share their hot takes about all things running with a little bit of life-stuff sprinkled in too. Come for the insights on running and stay for the inspiration from two legends in the sport. No filter needed.

This podcast is presented by Brooks Running.
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Any good Nobody Asked Us episode will make you laugh AND cry, and this one is no different.    For this latest installment, Des and Kara cover a hodgepodge of topics, mostly by catching up on their personal lives, and you will learn something new about each of them along the way. Or, maybe you knew about Bougie Des and Homebody Kara already?!   Kara talks about her experiences having her knee drained (!) and watching Colt crush it at the National Junior Olympic XC Championships, while Des gives us the play-by-play on her adventures living the Kiwi-trail life in New Zealand.   Kara shares an emotional moment buying Colt a souvenir for his race, and Des laments her inability to manage the technical downhills like her adventurous counter-parts.    Come for the advice on parenting a young athlete and stay for the tips on maintaining your Delta status OR for the intel on Des's ultra-marathon aspirations OR the BIG announcement about Houston Marathon weekend at the end of the Olipop Top 5. I promise you will not regret listening to this episode... and you're welcome.   There will be one final episode in 2024, coming on December 31st, as Des interviews Kara with her sisters!   Thank you to our sponsors for this one - Brooks Running and Olipop. Support them to support us:  Get your fresh pair of Brooks Glycerin Max at brooksrunning.com. Get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com.
We have a very special guest for this episode, and you won't want to miss it! In fact, this might be the episode to watch on YouTube if that isn't your normal routine. [Don't forget to hit subscribe while you are there.] Introducing... Natalie Steele, Des's older and taller and wiser(?) sister! She joins the show to spill all of the dirt on Des while gushing on her a little bit too. You get an inside peak into their lives as sisters as Kara asks all of the questions you might want to know, including: Who was the biggest troublemaker as a child? Who had the most boys after her? How much did they fight over the landline phone before caller ID?!? How were they as teammates on the high school soccer team together? What did she think of Des moving away to Arizona State and the Michigan? What's it like as a spectator for Des at big races from the Olympics Trials to winning Boston? What would surprise us to know about Des? Where did they get the adventure travel genes? What is she most proud of about Des's journey? This one is full of so many laughs and all of the feels. Get to know Des in a whole new way through Natalie's eyes! For this one, we send a special thanks to Brooks Running for being the best presenting sponsor a podcast could have. Go stock up on your favorite Brooks shoes to support the podcast! And don't worry... Kara's sister episode is coming as the last episode of 2024, releasing on December 31st (Season 2, episode 40). Stay tuned...
2.37. The Nemesis Episode

2.37. The Nemesis Episode

2024-11-2001:08:46

Oh my... where do we start with this episode goodness?!? The highlight of this episode is the long-awaited podcast face-off between Des and her arch-nemesis Dakotah Popehn, nee Lindwurm. They trash talk with all of the intensity of two cats playing with a furry ball before licking each other clean. Combine that with Kara's Minnesota accent showing out in the presence of another Minnesotan, and you can imagine that this episode gets as heated as a cozy, warm blanket on a cold winter's day. Yes, it's amazing... Dakotah gives us the inside scoop on her race and recovery from NYC, and she takes us back down memory lane to talk about qualifying for the Olympics, what it would have meant to her late mother, and what it was like racing in Paris. Plus, she stares down Des while talking about taking at shot at her 50K record. Kara + Des + Dakotah... what more could you want?!  How about another half-episode complete with their hot takes on Matt Choi, the venues for Grand Slam Track, an Olipop Top 6, and the very first bleeped words ever on Nobody Asked Us? (Thank you Des for that). All of this adds up to an episode that you just can't miss.  Thank you so much to our sponsors for this episode. To support them and in turn support the podcast... Get your very own, fresh pair of the new Brooks Glycerin Max or the new Brooks Adrenaline 24 at brooksrunning.com. Send some love to TCS for all they do to support the NYC Marathon and our sport. Tag @tcsnorthamerica in posts about the pod.  To get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. Lift yourself up with a new Lever system from Lever Movement. Use code NobodyAskedUs for 20% off on their site: https://levermovement.com/collections/lever-store. In addition, here is the RW article that Des mentioned on Dakotah: https://www.runnersworld.com/races-places/a60401977/dakotah-lindwurm-emerges-with-unshakeable-self-belief/
First of all, we have to give a massive shout-out to TCS for hosting the Freshy Fresh in their space, right behind the NYC Marathon finish line. They were amazing hosts and also amazing title sponsors for the race, contributing to all of the vibes of the day. We also love how they are using technology to upgrade the runner, the spectator, and the at-home audience experience in so many ways. Plus, they are huge supporters of the podcast, and we love them for it. Thank you TCS! This episode was recorded just a few hours after Des crossed the finish line and Kara exited the broadcast booth where she called the race on the world feed. The takes and reactions are as fresh as they can be. You get a full breakdown of Des's amazing race and the overall results, plus a quick recap of editor Chris's race in the main field. Des gives insight into the race within the race - Dakotah v. Des - which she won, and shares the inevitable, NYC-souvenir-sweatshirt purchase that Ryan just couldn't resist for her. Like any freshy fresh, you will feel like you were in NYC yourself, and what a beautiful and amazing day for racing it was. Editor's note: this was filmed outside near the finish line so there is some background noise which I cleaned up the best I could. It is a hallmark of the freshy fresh episodes, and if that's not your thing, feel free to skip this one and wait for the full NYC recap coming up in a few weeks. 
Live from the Brooks Hyperion House in NYC... it's Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara! For those running on Sunday (tomorrow), we highly recommend you listen today or on your way to the start. This one is jammed with tips to get your mind and body ready for this NYC Marathon course. Plus, you get some bonus content on Halloween costumes vs. NYC fashion, the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and what Des and Kara used to think when racing each other. Thank you to our live audience for all of the great questions! Also, thank you to our sponsors for this episode. To support them and in turn support the podcast... Get your very own, fresh pair of Brooks Glycerin Max or the new Brooks Adrenaline 24 at brooksrunning.com. Download the TCS NYC Marathon app to to track all of your favorite runners including Des and Chris. To get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED.
We are posting this early because we know you need some fun and feisty content for your weekend long runs.   This one is all about Chicago, and Kara promises that it could be a rampage discussing the new world record set by Ruth Chepngetich. Is it or is it not? You be the judge, but we can promise the discussion will be different than you think. This episode represents precisely why Des and Kara started this podcast in the first place. Nobody asked them, and nobody talks about these topics the way they do.   Also, HUGE shout-outs to Brooks athletes CJ Albertson and Susanna Sullivan for finishing as 1st Americans. They both made the live podcast in Chicago, and then crushed it 36 hours later. Coincidence? We think not!   Come for the hot takes on Chicago and stay through the Olipop Top 5 at the end!   Also, thank you to our sponsors for this episode. To support them and in turn support the podcast... Get your fresh pair of Brooks Glycerin Max at brooksrunning.com. Download the TCS NYC Marathon app to prep for tracking all of your favorite runners including Des and Chris on November 3rd. Plus, don't forget to tune into the broadcast to see all of the ways technology is changing the broadcast game thanks to TCS. Get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com.
[New album cover alert!] Another year, another live podcast from Chicago, and this one was even bigger with 250+ in attendance! This episode has everything you would want from a live podcast including a completely-unplanned, surprise guest, who turned Kara into a little bit of an awkward mess ;).  The show starts with some life and travel updates. Des shares how her latest 2 x 6 mile marathon workout went in prep for NYC, and Kara talks about her disdain for airports and Halloween. Don't worry... the whole bit is saved by images of Des as the Swinging Friar, iykyk.  They then turn their attention to a Chicago Marathon preview with a focus on the key American storylines up front. Who wins in the battle of Zach Panning and CJ Albertson? Will the American record go down on the women's side? Oh wait... who is that in the audience who is racing with the elites on Sunday? Enter surprise guest, complete with a birthday serenade from the audience! Unable to top that further, Des and Kara turn to audience questions (captured in full audio by our trusty wireless mic) and then an Olipop Top 5 that you don't want to miss.  Of course, thank you to everyone who came out for the show and to our sponsors for this episode - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. And, we also have to thank our gracious hosts - Fleet Feet Chicago - who always do it right. If you are in Chicago, get your running gear from Fleet Feet Chicago!
Wow, there were a lot of emotions and opinions coming out of last week's episode, and we appreciated them all, mostly. Some of the internet haters get a little too excited, but we know that comes with the territory. Well, today... we get to take a deep breath and enjoy this new episode. No controversies to be seen in this one *wink wink*. Des and Kara start with extended life update. Des updates us on her prep for NYC, and Kara shares her painful experience get PRP in her hip. They talk baseball (go Tigers and Padres!), upcoming travels, Netflix's The Perfect Couple, and Kara's upcoming induction into the Croatian American Sports Hall of Fame.  Then, they turn to the Camille Herron and Wikipedia controversy that somewhat-surprisingly involved Des's 50K record. You hear Des's side of the story and takes from both Des and Kara on the sadness of it all. They also answer the question "should Lululemon have dropped her sponsorship?" Plus, Kara shares some crazy stories that might inspire someone to be a little nicer on the internet.  Finally, the episode ends with some notes on the Chicago Marathon fields and reactions to Athlos, the new track meet just for women, before a brain-fog-ending top 5 brought to you by Ketone-IQ.  Of course, we couldn't do the show without our amazing sponsors. Supporting them is a way to support the podcast: Thank you to today's top 5 sponsor - Ketone-IQ. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Get your fresh pair of Brooks Glycerin Max at brooksrunning.com. Download the TCS NYC Marathon app to prep for tracking all of your favorite runners including Des and Chris on November 3rd. Plus, don't forget to tune into the broadcast to see all of the ways technology is changing the broadcast game thanks to TCS. 
2.31. The Boston Kerfuffle

2.31. The Boston Kerfuffle

2024-09-2401:17:47

This episode features a reluctant guest to talk about the recent changes to the Boston qualifying standards announced by the BAA last week. Yes, Kara dragged me (your editor who is also a running coach) kicking and screaming into this one! We start with some life updates from Kara and Des. Kara shares that she and Adam recently celebrated their 23rd wedding anniversary in Estes Park with a nothing but "Netflix and chill." TMI perhaps? We aren't sure she knows the full meaning of that vernacular, but you do get some Netflix recommendations from her! Des shares her experience running a a workout at the DC Half, hosted by Pacers Running, where she may or may not have annoyed her fellow racers. They also talk about the opening of the magical box from Brooks Running and what was revealed inside. You must listen to get the full intel there. Then, the podcast takes a sad turn discussing the tragic murder of Ugandan Olympian Rebecca Cheptegei. Violence against women has no place in this world, and we encourage you to research and support organizations that are on the ground doing something about it. Check out the Nala Track Club and Tirop's Angels to do just that.  Finally, Chris and Kara nearly come to blows talking at the BQ standards and process, while Des mostly stays out of the fray adding helpful suggestions here and there. You may want to cancel us both after this discussion. We are certain there will be strong opinions on both sides so let us know what you think. We are at least united in our desire for  Boston to continue to be a special place to aspire to race.  We finish with a Super 5 turned Super 6 with our top 6 things from the week including the massive support of the Nobody Asked Us merch. You can still get yours here: https://nobody-asked-us.printify.me/products. Of course, we couldn't do the show without our amazing sponsors. Supporting them is a way to support the podcast: Pre-order your Brooks Glycerin Max at brooksrunning.com (countdown timer and fancy box not included). To get your Super Coffee fix, use code NOBODYASKED for 20% off on Amazon. Download the TCS NYC Marathon app to prep for tracking all of your favorite runners including Des and Chris on November 3rd. Get your healthy dog treats at https://www.simplyamericandogtreattruck.com!
You might have been looking for this episode last week, but things got a little crazy, particularly for Kara. She fills you in on all of the scary details that put Colt in the hospital for nearly a week. He is recovering well and at home now, but it was touch-and-go for a little bit as he ended up with a fluke infection in his chest.  In the meantime, Des was announced in the field for the NYC Marathon, and she shares how it has been challenging to find her motivation recently, especially with a banged up big toe nail.  Presented by Brooks Running, this episode is full of life updates and two special segments from Lever Movement and Super Coffee.  To get your Super Coffee fix, use code NOBODYASKED for 20% off on Amazon. And to get your Lever Movement system, use code NobodyAskedUs for 20% off as well. 
The mood was spicy for this one, fueled by Olipop and post-Olympics sleep deprivation and jetlag! The result is yet another banger episode from Des and Kara. This one starts with some fun behind-the-scenes intel on the Olympic Village and why athletes might choose to stay outside of it.  Then, they very thoroughly address THE elephant in the room, giving their perspectives on the criticism Fiona O'Keeffe has received for not dropping from the marathon. You might have your opinion on this, but I promise you that Des and Kara will teach you a side of this story that you didn't know. It is a lot more complicated than the social media "pundits" might think. After that, they turn to recaps of the M800, W1500, M5000, and both marathons to wrap up their coverage of the Paris Olympics, including some humble pie served very warm. We are sad it's over, but so very happy that it happened. What an epic end to these Games! Thank you to our sponsors for this episode - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com.
First, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors for this episode - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Super Coffee - for their support in Paris. To get your Super Coffee fix, use code NOBODYASKED for 20% off on Amazon. This episode covers it all from track day seven - the jumps, the sprints, the hurdles, and of course, the distance events. Plus, you get short previews for the events still to come, because sadly, this will be the last Freshy Fresh from Paris. Kara has an insane broadcasting schedule over the weekend and won't have time for another podcast until a full Olympics recap coming next week. BUT, this will not be the last you see of Des and Kara in Paris! Stay tuned until the very end for an announcement that will have you very, very excited for the final track event of these Games...
First, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. Des admits to skipping a night of track to recover, and thus missing live perhaps the biggest shocker of these races so far. Plus, your editor gets a cameo appearance to assist with the breakdown. We talk all about the surprise silver from Kenneth Rooks, the scary fall for Girma, rehash a few other moments from these Games, and give you a preview of the marathon course with on-course intel from Des herself.
First of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. Ok, ok... people DID ask for this one, and you got it! This one is 95% about the thriller that was the men's 1500. Get Des and Kara's breakdown and learn if Kara came through on her preview show promise. The Shocker from Hocker was one for the history books (even though Des and Kara predicted it could happen)!
First of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. This episode is jammed packed with so much good stuff. You've got behind-the-scenes broadcasting intel, American gold in the discus, a WR in the pole vault, dominance in the women's 800, and of course, the drama and chaos of an historic field for the women's 5000. Des and Kara break it all down (and more) as only they can!
First of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. In this episode, you get quick hits on the semi-final rounds of the men's 1500m with all of the key players qualifying for the final. Plus, Des and Kara break down the men's 100m final including interesting vibes in the stadium itself from pre and post that photo finish.
Thank you to a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping to make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop - for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com. For the sprint, throws and pole vault fans, this one is for you. They breakdown the women's 100m final, the mixed 400m relay (hello Femke Bol!), the shot put 1-2 from Crouser and Kovacs, and an unfortunate (or fortunate?) "doink" in the pole vault, plus preview the men's 1500m semifinals. The track has been on fire so far and so are Des and Kara! And if you are looking for that video... 
First of all, we have to thank a special sponsor Ketone-IQ for helping make these Olympic episodes possible. Save 30% on your first subscription order & receive a free six pack of Ketone-IQ with https://ketone.com/NOBODYASKED. Thank you also to our other sponsors - presenting sponsor Brooks Running and Olipop for their support for these episodes in Paris. As usual, to support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com.  The show notes will be brief so we can get these up quickly. In this one, Des and Kara talk all about their arrivals in Paris, the vibes in the city, the drama of the early rounds for the M1500 and W800, and of course, cover the triumph and emotion of Grant Fisher's medal in the M10000. Such an exciting start to Track and Field in Paris!
Editor's note: Des and Kara will blame me for this episode, while I would like to take credit. You be the judge!  The overview of this episode is pretty straightforward. Des and Kara catch up on their lives as usual... they preview a few Olympic events... they answer some questions from a friendship/partner Q&A and then finish with another Olipop Top 5. Simple enough and yet oh so good. You don't want to miss this one! Some early content teasers: Team Pasta and/or Team Past (thank you Barilla)! Des's ideal birthday and birthday gift (Sorry Ryan... Des wants her own boat!). The potential chaos of the Olympic marathon route. Kerr, Ingebrigtsen or... Hocker? A reason for Kara to streak in the Olympic stadium? Fearing Kipyegon no more? The Hassan quadruple?  And then for the good part, where Des and Kara answer questions from a NY Times Q&A called... "The 36 Questions That Lead to Love." As introverts, they are uncomfortable with it, but they dive in reluctantly anyway and we learn so much... The questions are part fun, part deep, and occasionally dark. They are two friends who are more likely to sing to themselves than give anyone a call, and we love them for it. Enjoy learning new things about Des and Kara! To support the podcast and get your Olipop fix, use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off at drinkolipop.com.
Is it your birthday, girl? 'Cause you lookin' like a present Is it your birthday, girl? Let's celebrate it Is it your birthday, girl? Make a wish, 11:11 Is it your birthday, girl? Let's celebrate it.- Lizzo It's Kara's birthday, and of course we are celebrating with this latest episode of Nobody Asked Us presented by Brooks Running. There are so many presents in this one... Kara hopped up on Super Coffee. Per usual, crazy intro banter. Some love for your 40s. Stories of Des lifting weights?! Recaps from the final two days of the Oly Trials (W10K, M5K, W1500, M800). Surprise Olympians named post-Trials. Paris Diamond League madness, world records, and leveling up. UK Olympic selection rants. The Super 5 with a super, Super Coffee discount. And perhaps the biggest present of all... a very special guest joins for the final ~30 minutes, and you won't want to miss it. It might be Kara's birthday, but we are all getting presents! After all, as the great Lizzo says... "Every day, every day is a birthday, hey every day is a birthday, hey, if you a bad b***h, today is your day." To get your Super Coffee discount, please use this link to order and add code NOBODYASKED for 20% off at check-out. Code valid on Amazon only. On Prime Day - July 16/17 - the code will bump to 25% off!
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