Not PC with Mark and Rob

Rob and Mark are Apple and tech enthusiasts who like nothing more than a good old muse, moan and laugh about the latest happenings from Apple. Tune in to hear them talk through the latest news, rumours and releases (it’s a bit like having a couple of pints down the pub - this isn’t Newsnight).

Was 2025 A Good Year For Apple?

This week, Mark and Rob are joined by Chris from the Tech Spurt YouTube channel for a big Christmas roundup of 2025 in tech! They reflect on the major releases of the year, determine whether Apple is back on track and hand out some awards.

12-18
01:11:39

Is the iPhone Air honeymoon over?

This week, Mark and Rob are joined by Daniel from the ZoneOfTech YouTube channel. They discuss Daniel's ordeal with the Samsung Galaxy Ring, whether anyone can realistically stick with the iPhone Air over the Pro Max and the allure of tri-folding phones.

11-11
01:12:40

Why YouTubers have to use clickbait

This week, Mark and Rob are joined by YouTuber Pete Matheson to discuss the latest tech news, including the announcement that Android is coming to PC and there are new iPads on the way in October! Plus, Pete gives some insight into his creative process, the need to offload extra work to prevent burnout and how he has wrestled with titling YouTube videos over the years.

10-02
01:09:03

Will Anyone Buy The iPhone Air? (Apple Event Debrief!)

Apple has been busy. Mark and Rob are here to assess which of the new devices look exciting, which might run into some teething issues and which they've actually bought. Is the iPhone Air's battery going to be a major problem? Will that fancy new orange iPhone 17 Pro Max be as eye-catching in real life? And is the Apple Watch SE 3 worth it if it can't save your life on the side of a mountain? All questions answered in this episode!

09-16
01:03:44

How Important Is Smartphone Battery Life?

Mark and Rob are joined by Ben from Lover of Tech this week where he lifts the lid on how he shoots his brutal battery drain tests, why that remains a huge part of what makes or breaks a phone and the lengths creators go to stand out in a crowded market. We also dive into Samsung’s continued stubbornness when it comes to innovating with battery tech and the rather interesting gold statue gifted by Apple to Donald Trump.

08-22
01:16:34

The Perils Of Being A Tech YouTuber

In this episode, Mark, Rob, and special guest Alex from Alex Gear & Tech discuss Apple’s potential move to buy an AI company and the future of foldable phones. They also dive into Tim Cook’s legacy as Apple’s CEO and the ongoing challenges with Apple’s Vision Pro. Plus, they dive into Alex's experience of being a content creator on YouTube, including his creative process and the constraints of playing to metrics like views and watch time.

08-08
01:13:37

Are foldables finally worth buying?

There's a lot to catch up on as we launch Not PC, our new tech podcast now with added guests! This week, alongside Patrick Rambles of YouTube fame, we're digging into Samsung's Z Fold7 and Flip7, the Nothing Phone 3's disputed flagship status, a 'new' Commodore 64 and the logistics of a press trip to New York City!

07-25
01:09:58

BIG NEWS ABOUT EIGHT OR SIXTEEN (WE'RE STILL ALIVE)!

Eight or Sixteen will return...   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com.

05-27
02:05

“They already know everything about me...”

In this week’s episode of Eight or Sixteen, Rob and Mark dive into the latest Nintendo Switch 2. Rob’s also spotted a wild £500 Echo Show from Amazon and Mark discovered a new mysterious Vision Pro app! Links ➡️ £500 Amazon Echo Show: https://geni.us/WmW1R ➡️ CLVX1 combined keyboard and trackpad on Kickstarter: https://geni.us/GKtWcE ➡️ Remind Me Faster: https://geni.us/B2lPdOi ➡️ Samsung ViewFinity S9 5K display: https://geni.us/UBG1mX ➡️ ASUS ProArt 5K display: https://geni.us/XG52a ➡️ BenQ 5K display: https://geni.us/iiRba   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

04-09
56:44

“Watching three British blokes mess around...”

This week on Eight or Sixteen, Mark shares what he calls his best experience ever—an unforgettable visit to a pretty famous racetrack. There's also chat about his ongoing thoughts on the iPhone 16E, while Rob dreams up the ultimate PC build, complete with analogue dials.... Links: MyCarly OBD car gadget: https://geni.us/RBEH Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe: https://geni.us/QGNvygN Chappell Roan Tiny Desk Performance: https://geni.us/IB1qA1h Lola Young – Messy: https://geni.us/pqfZ New Pebble watches: https://geni.us/HK1yJgp Somfy Home Automation: https://geni.us/v3uEz3 Clevetura CLVX1 keyboard/trackpad: https://geni.us/E1sfT LG OLED Ultrawide: https://geni.us/l1nU Streacom DA6 case: https://geni.us/8iGVvH VU1 e-ink analogue dials: https://geni.us/2YrIX Streacom DB4 cube case: https://geni.us/skSuiB Roborock Saros Z70: https://geni.us/poJydZ   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com.

03-25
58:35

“Weird AI robots walking around everywhere..."

In this episode Mark and Rob discuss MWC highlights, a quirky take on World Book Day, and the OnePlus Watch 3. They also dive into Apple's latest launches from the iPhone 16E, iPads with (and without) the AI, and the new MacBook Air colours. Tune in for all this and more! If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

03-11
52:31

"Everyone needs a magnetic goose"

This week, Mark shares his thoughts on the BYD Seal vs. Tesla Model 3, while we dive into Apple's refreshed Powerbeats Pro—are they a real AirPods Pro alternative? Plus, a mysterious Apple event is on the horizon, and Rob has a Valentine’s Day story you won’t want to miss. Links ➡️ Stephen Wilson Jr “I’m a song” live perfomance: https://geni.us/xEUpLXl ➡️ Mark’s BYD Seal vs Tesla Model 3 TikTok: https://geni.us/DMyFc ➡️ Nothing Phone (3a) coming soon: https://geni.us/NYEdqEq ➡️ OnePlus Watch 3: https://geni.us/vjA9x ➡️ Migrate purchases between Apple IDs: https://geni.us/Ci9r ➡️ ASUS ProArt PA27JCV 5K display: https://geni.us/nmYlNZw ➡️ Tapestry app for building your own universal chronological timeline, now out of beta: https://geni.us/KQ60C4 ➡️ Reeder, a less hands-on alternative: https://geni.us/8l71 ➡️ Magnetic goose: https://geni.us/b5BWC   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

02-20
59:14

"Exceptionally Happy About That Sausage...”

Samsung's latest Galaxy S25 lineup, the return of Pebble smartwatches, and Apple's latest financial results—this episode is packed with big tech news! Mark shares updates from Barcelona and his new newsletter, while Rob dives into the fate of Meta Portals. Plus, a quirky macOS Calculator trick you might want to try. 🚀 Sign up to Marks newsletter for access to my free Discord community, weekly behind-the-scenes content & exclusive perks: https://newsletter.markellismedia.uk/subscribe   Astropad Bookcase: https://geni.us/clCUfKr Astropad Rock Paper Pencil: https://geni.us/JQIk   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

02-05
01:06:58

"The coveted, 'Mark Ellis Reviews' BEST TOILET AWARD"

Mark and Rob are back with another packed episode of Eight or Sixteen! This week, they dive into the best (and weirdest) tech from CES 2025, including Lenovo’s rollable laptops, and a robot vacuum with an Inspector Gadget arm. Mark shares his “Best in Show” highlights, Rob talks WiFi 7 and heated seats, and a bizarre electric salt spoon you didn’t know you needed. Links Hotdog vs Chicken: https://bigpotato.co.uk/products/chicken-vs-hotdog?variant=43051952210171 Withings Omnia: https://www.withings.com/uk/en/landing/omnia Saros Z70 robot vacuum with an Inspector Gadget arm: https://global.roborock.com/pages/roborock-saros-z70 Latest effort from Amagami Ham Ham creators Mirumi: https://www.ux-xu.com/news/ces2025_1 Also Nékojita FuFu: https://www.ux-xu.com/news/ces2025_2 Electric Salt Spoon: https://www.kirinholdings.com/en/newsroom/release/2024/0520_01.html LG 45” 2160P 21:9 Ultrawide display: https://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/gaming/45gr95qe-b/ Jeff Beck guitar auction viewings until 22nd January (scroll down for the virtual tour): https://www.christies.com/en/events/jeff-beck-the-guitar-collection/what-is-on#exhibition Razer Project Arielle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8grHBWtgjDQ M4 Mac mini CNC aluminium case: https://zeerawireless.com/products/zeera-macforge-gen2-cnc-aluminum-case-for-2024-mac-mini-m4 MacPaw Eney AI automation a la what Rabbit said they could do, but for Mac (and might actually work): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWmvO25o6pw Web-based Eney simulation: https://macpaw.com/eney-waiting-list ShiftCam Planck 2TB external SSD: https://prelaunch.com/projects/planck-ssd-powerful-storage-hidden-in-your-palm-planck-ssd-powerful-storage-hidden-in-your-palm DJI Flip drone: https://www.dji.com/uk/flip Nintendo Lego Gameboy troll announcement: https://x.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1877400996462166302 Nintendo Switch 2 trailer launched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ InCase “Designed by Microsoft” collection: https://www.incase.com/collections/productivity-accessories Klack mechanical keyboard simulator app: https://tryklack.com   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com  

01-21
59:29

“Demise of the stovetop”

In this episode, Mark and Rob reflect on an eventful 2024, covering everything from travel highlights and their favourite tech purchases to the biggest disappointments of the year. Rob shares his hands-on experience with OneUI 7 Beta, Samsung’s latest innovations, and his new tech toys, while Mark looks back on standout reviews and missed opportunities. Plus, a look ahead at what 2025 might bring, including Apple’s rumored HomePod with a display, Nintendo’s Switch 2, and Samsung’s S25 Ultra. Links BookCase by Astropad: https://geni.us/bdfZ Google/Samsung XR headset - basically Android Vision Pro: https://geni.us/0GRPiR ResMed $120 Vision Pro Kontor strap with counterweights: https://geni.us/vhV9 Flow Launcher (basically Raycast for Windows): https://geni.us/x3Sj Official Raycast for Windows waitlist: https://geni.us/THo236T Festivitas app - Christmasify your Mac: https://geni.us/hRS16r If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

12-30
01:07:27

"Apologies to Andy McBain!"

Join Mark and Rob for another episode of the Eight or Sixteen podcast and more tech ramblings. From starting to talk about Christmas decorations, to an interesting song about a duck and some grapes, just your typical Eight or Sixteen podcast! And a personal apologies from Niall to Andy McBain, for the incorrect scheduling.... ➡️ Ghost newsletter/publishing platform: https://geni.us/FZtkm8 ➡️ Aqara U200 Smart Lock https://geni.us/TcNIK ➡️ Govee Christmas Tree Lights: https://geni.us/e7fZY ➡️ Aqara FP2 presence sensors: https://geni.us/j0PFw ➡️ Philips Sonicare 9900 toothbrush with USB-C charging case: https://geni.us/kXJyBWH ➡️ Suri alternative toothbrush: https://geni.us/35D0qUP ➡️ Smart water bottle: https://geni.us/7DqK9 ➡️ Upright Posture gadget: https://geni.us/bYVBD ➡️ Withings U-Scan wee analyser: https://geni.us/pb4HR ➡️ iCloud passwords extension for Firefox: https://geni.us/wjzxQ3 ➡️ Wallace and Gromit video shot on iPhone and projected 300-foot high onto Battersea Power Station: https://geni.us/2j3hk ➡️ Apple Christmas Advert: https://geni.us/lXv8E ➡️ M4 Mac mini so small you can fit it in the base of a G4 iMac, as Chance Miller of 9to5Mac has done: https://geni.us/CAILA ➡️ Satechi M4 Mac mini dock: https://geni.us/je6y ➡️ M4 Mac mini adornments: https://geni.us/FO3Mj ➡️ M4 Mac mini Power Mac G3 case: https://geni.us/pOwQ ➡️ Christian Selig’s M4 Mac mini-shaped desk ornaments: https://geni.us/TrH4E5 ➡️ Microsoft Windows 365 Link thin client for their Cloud PC service: https://geni.us/IAzsIc3 ➡️ Put Windows on your face: https://geni.us/cGvy ➡️ This Is An Xbox campaign: https://geni.us/7SJRKbA ➡️ One UI 7 beta started rolling out today: https://geni.us/L4JJjm ➡️ The Verge subscription - $7 a month or $50 a year: https://geni.us/njr2vai ➡️ Delicious Library: https://geni.us/aklsT ➡️ TinyPod: https://geni.us/XszRc ➡️ Astropod BookCase: https://geni.us/C9RqKf4 ➡️ Free alternative for Bartender macOS app: https://geni.us/AZWhZcc ➡️ EE’s WiFi 7 offering - included in 1.6Gb/s plan, or £10 a month on lower tiers: https://geni.us/t4By ➡️ The Duck Song: https://geni.us/JwFKcun ➡️ The Duck Song official plush you can’t buy (but there are knockoffs on eBay): https://geni.us/oo7SbCR   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

12-07
01:03:04

"Marques has been a naughty boy"

In this episode Mark and Rob dive into the power-packed M4 Mac mini, questioning whether its upgrades are worth the price, and the surprising 3D-printed Mac Pro case that’s making waves. They explore the Oppo Find X8 Pro, growing BlueSky exodus numbers, and why AppleCare+ refunds are suddenly popping up. Plus, Rob’s accidental car purchase, frustration with smart locks, and the return of a quirky Casio gadget!  Links ➡️ 3D Printed Mac Pro case for M4 Mac mini: https://geni.us/BK2qETK ➡️ Jeff Beck guitar auction: https://geni.us/SIzmBA ➡️ Spatialify app to convert iPhone Spatial Videos for playback on Meta Quest: https://geni.us/xP1EM4Z ➡️ Pixelmator bought by Apple: https://geni.us/3ce9V ➡️ Croissant app - crosspost to Threads, Mastodon, Bluesky: https://geni.us/eDqgAve ➡️ Aqara U200 Smart Lock with HomeKey support that fits UK doors: https://geni.us/MlCOI ➡️ Nuki Ultra smart lock just announced - but no HomeKey support: https://geni.us/Zclwann ➡️ Apparently the TinyPod is rubbish according to two-dimensional David on YouTube: https://geni.us/hpwiPTv ➡️ TinyPod: https://geni.us/0jpqdS1 ➡️ Whack a tiny Casio Digital Watch on your finger - Casio Smart Ring: https://geni.us/0TkSI ➡️ Or get a massive one: https://geni.us/sp7se   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com.

11-20
01:02:03

“Life is too short for dangly straps”

Join Rob and Mark for more tech waffling and meandering down limitless cultural cul-de-sacs! If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com. Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

11-02
01:09:33

“They’ve Sherlocked our podcast!”

In this episode, Mark and Rob dive into the latest Apple M4 benchmarks leak, comparing it to the infamous iPhone 4 incident, and explore what surprises we might see at the upcoming Apple October event. They also discuss the Meta Quest 3S and how it stacks up against its competition, alongside the newest developments in VR and AR, including Meta’s Orion project. Make sure to watch until the end so you don't miss out on a quirky little Nintendo Alarm Clock!   ➡️ Meta Quest 3S: https://geni.us/LbbvX ➡️ Wordle VR for Quest: https://geni.us/7YWYo ➡️ Meta Orion Augmented Reality Glasses: https://geni.us/AQfrq ➡️ Fifth Generation Snap Spectacles with AR: https://geni.us/dm9jGW ➡️ Pico 4 Ultra VR/MR alternative to Quest: https://geni.us/5KqHd ➡️ Trailer for “Submerged” – Apple’s first Immersive Video short film for Vision Pro: https://geni.us/NgaXmr ➡️ Severance returns to Apple TV+ 17th January 2025: https://geni.us/Ajmn ➡️ Apple TV+ and Amazon Prime Video deal: https://geni.us/S8xAke ➡️ NothingOS 3: https://geni.us/iMBMAX ➡️ Nothing Ear (Open): https://geni.us/cSOAr ➡️ Samsung Developer Conference – OneUI 7: https://geni.us/WQkeR3C ➡️ Honor Magic V3 foldable: https://geni.us/jAeBKX ➡️ Honor Magic Pen: https://geni.us/UjWx ➡️ Bonkers Honor 100W wireless charger: https://geni.us/Y648a ➡️ Nintendo Alarm Clock – Alarmo: https://geni.us/WToEBwT ➡️ Clock-sized Casio retro A158W watch: https://geni.us/lAM72jx   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

10-12
56:52

"He loves to get his otoscope out"

In this episode, Mark and Rob dive into Apple’s latest reveals, from the new iPhone 16 line up (the good and the bad), to the AirPods 4 and Apple Watch Series 10. Are any of Apple latest launches really worth it?   If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.   Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

09-29
57:48

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