Mouse. Baptisms. Mark 7. We kick off with a rogue mouse in the studio (and Josh’s very holy solution), celebrate seven baptisms in one family, and then dive into Jesus’ confrontation with the Pharisees in Mark 7. From lip gloss and mouse traps to the weight of Scripture, the conversation wrestles with why traditions can bless or bind, how the Spirit—not systems—makes us clean, and what real fruit looks like in our families and churches.
“What if Jesus’ miracles in Mark 6 are more than stories—what if they’re glimpses of God’s glory breaking into our world?” In this episode of Not Yet Now, Zach and Jill Dasher explore the feeding of the 5000, Jesus walking on water as a New Exodus, and theophany moments that reveal His divine nature. The conversation dives into house church community, multi-generational faith, and the disciples’ struggle to grasp the fullness of Christ’s power. Discover how the kingdom of God brings healing, restoration, and overflowing hope as we follow the Spirit’s lead in daily life.
Ever wondered how faith intersects with today's cultural and political landscapes? In this episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, we dive into the complexities of cultural and theological conversations in today's world. Join us as we explore the role of the church and individual Christians in navigating political and social issues, the importance of being led by the Holy Spirit, and the power of truth in transforming lives. We also address listener questions about theology and discuss the impact of historical Christian figures on modern society. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges us to engage with the world around us with faith and conviction.
We pause our regular rhythm to process the heartbreaking murder of Charlie Kirk. With raw honesty and deep sorrow, we reflect on the weight of evil, the fragility of life, and the hope we cling to in Christ’s victory over sin and death. Together we wrestle with the “not yet” of ongoing pain and injustice, while holding fast to the “now” reality that Jesus is King and His kingdom cannot be shaken. Our hearts are with Erica, their children, and the entire family as we mourn, pray, and look to the cross where justice, love, and hope converge.
A wilderness, five thousand hungry people, and a Shepherd who provides. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Zach, Jill, and Brandon dive into Mark 6 and the miraculous feeding of the five thousand. More than a story about multiplying bread and fish, this moment reveals the heart of God, the mission of Jesus, and the abundance of the Kingdom breaking into a desolate place. Why does Jesus lead his disciples into the wilderness, a place of scarcity, only to meet them there with overflowing provision? What does this miracle reveal about His compassion, His teaching, and His role as the Good Shepherd? And how does it connect to the Exodus, Ezekiel 34, Psalm 23, and the greater story of God dwelling with His people? The conversation explores: • The “desolate place” as wilderness language, echoing Israel’s journey. • Jesus fulfilling Old Testament prophecies as the true Shepherd of His people. • The abundance of God’s Kingdom breaking through scarcity. • The importance of Jesus’ teaching before the miracle of provision. • How eschatology—our view of the end—shapes how we live in the present. • Why the desert becomes Eden when the King is present. The feeding of the five thousand is not just about physical bread; it’s about the Shepherd who restores, provides, and brings rest to His people. In Christ, scarcity becomes abundance, wilderness becomes green pasture, and every desolate place overflows with life.
Two banquets. Two kingdoms. Two radically different outcomes. In Mark 6, Jesus sends His disciples out with nothing but His authority—calling them to rely completely on God’s provision—while Herod throws a feast that spirals into manipulation, pride, and ultimately the death of John the Baptist. Zach and Jill Dasher unpack this powerful contrast, showing how one kingdom leads to life and mission, while the other ends in corruption and death. Along the way, they trace connections to the Old Testament priesthood, the staff of Moses, and the call for believers today to live as God’s temple, empowered by His Spirit and set apart for His purposes.
Dumpster diving for unexpected treasures—you never know what you’ll find! In this episode, we dive into Mark 6:1-6, exploring Jesus’ rejection by His own people and what it teaches us about faith, doubt, and belonging. Along the way, we share wild stories from chaotic church gatherings like breakfast casseroles and reveal how sincerity beats cynicism in creating genuine connections. These conversations remind us that faith isn’t just a transaction—it’s a relational, transformational journey with God, who is our ultimate prize. Tune in for powerful insights, surprising stories, and a fresh take on life, faith, and miracles.
Did Zach’s failed mullet experiment end with a shaved head or a trip to the hair-plug clinic? In this episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, dive into Mark 5, a chapter packed with healing, faith, and the power of Jesus to bring life out of death. From Jairus’s desperate plea to the bleeding woman’s bold interruption, the crew explores how Jesus meets people in moments of crisis, shows His sovereignty without rigidity, and reminds us that His path is never random but always purposeful. They unpack what it means to have faith in Jesus rather than the faith of Jesus, and why the difference matters when prayers feel unanswered. This conversation touches everything from “big boy miracles” (like raising the dead) to the deeply relational heart of God—who stops for the hurting, who makes the unclean clean, and who invites us to bring our brokenness to Him. Along the way, they wrestle with sovereignty, suffering, unanswered prayers, and the danger of mistaking the signposts of healing for the ultimate destination. Join Zach, Jill, and Brandon for a rich, honest conversation about faith, healing, and hope in the God who sees, knows, and loves His people.
From chains to freedom—imagine the most broken, the most unclean transforming into a powerful testimony of hope and healing. In this compelling episode, we dive into the powerful story of the demon-possessed man from Mark 5. Here, Jesus boldly crosses the sea into Gentile territory, intentionally bringing the Kingdom to those far from God, fulfilling prophecies and extending His grace to the nations. Jill and I just wrapped up a transformative week with amazing kids from a local children’s home, and it struck me: our identity as children of God is where our true power lies. Much like that man who encountered Jesus, our pain can become our superpower. As we explore this remarkable story, we’ll dive into the clash of light and darkness and how Jesus brings freedom to the captive. This isn’t just a random moment; it’s a moment of divine purpose as He reaches out to the unclean and breaks the chains of sin and shame. Join us on this journey from shame to wholeness, embracing our identity as living temples filled with His light. This episode is all about the redemptive power of Jesus and His promise to bring His Kingdom to each of us in a chaotic world. Trust me, you won’t want to miss it!
As political storms rage around us, how can we find calm in the chaos? In this enlightening episode of Not Yet Now, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher and Brandon Hudson explore the tempestuous climate of our modern world, where even the simplest aspects of life are swept into the whirlwind of political drama. They delve into the importance of viewing individuals as unique contributors rather than getting lost in the ideological turbulence that seeks to divide us.Against this cultural backdrop, the team emphasizes the necessity of fostering genuine conversations and deepening our relationships, reminding us that true connection transcends judgment. Recalling their church's inception during the tumult of COVID, they draw on the story from Mark 4, where Jesus calms the storm, challenging listeners to reflect on their future aspirations in the midst of uncertainty.They examine the unparalleled authority of Christ and how a deeper understanding of God's character guides us toward authentic faith. Parallels between Jesus and biblical figures like Jonah and Moses emerge, highlighting that true grace comes from God's condescension, not our attempts to decipher Him.Rich with compelling insights, this episode encourages listeners to trust in God's sovereignty during life's storms and to actively seek His presence. Join the conversation as Zach, Jill, and Brandon underscore the significance of suffering as a pathway to release grace into the world, reinforcing that our ultimate promise of peace is found in our relationship with God.Tune in to realize how Jesus remains uncancelable amidst life’s trials, offering us a beacon of hope and the transformative power of faith and community.
Zach and Brandon set the record straight and dig deeper into what really bears fruit. The hosts unpack the idea that all of Scripture—from Moses to Paul to the Gospels—is inspired by the Holy Spirit, and no part should be elevated over another. It’s not about red letters or black letters; it’s all God’s Word. But this episode isn’t just about clarifying a misunderstanding—it’s about shifting the conversation entirely. Zach and Brandon challenge the tribalism in the Church today, where honest disagreement is often met with personal attacks and cancelation. Have we lost our ability to have authentic, grace-filled conversations? They explore the temptation to rely on systems, theology, and frameworks as substitutes for real relationship with Christ. While helpful, these constructs can easily become distractions if they’re not rooted in the living presence of Jesus and the leading of the Spirit. Throughout the conversation, the hosts return again and again to the image of the mustard seed, the wheat, and the scorched earth—reminding us that the Kingdom of God is not something we build or strategize into existence. It’s something God is already doing. We are simply invited in. Our job? Plant. Water. Tend. But God alone gives the growth. They ask, what kind of soil is Christ calling us to be? Sometimes, it’s scorched earth where all of our striving ends—but it’s there the holy seed remains. It's not about what we can build for God, but about yielding to what He is building in us. As they share personal stories of how their own church emerged from devastation—literally from the rubble of a hurricane—Zach and Brandon testify that obedience, not strategy, led to unexpected fruit. In the Kingdom, the way forward is not strength but surrender. Not control, but trust. 💬 “Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone.” (John 12) 🌱 The call is not just to get your theology right—it’s to die to yourself. Because on the other side of that surrender? Life. Real fruit. The Kingdom. 🔔 Subscribe and join the journey toward Spirit-led, honest faith. 📩 Share your thoughts or questions at [contact info, if applicable]. #NotYetNow #ZachDasher #BrandonHudson #KingdomOfGod #HolySpirit #FaithJourney #RedLetters #GraceAndTruth #ChurchDiscourse #SeedToFruit
Dive deep as the crew unpacks the significance of truly hearing and responding to God’s Word, the importance of disrupting the soil of our hearts, and the transformative power of faith. In this thought-provoking episode of the Not Yet Now podcast, hosts Zach and Jill Dasher, alongside Brandon, engage in a lively discussion about the parallels between Isaiah 6 and the Parable of the Sower from Mark 4. Explore the practical implications of the four types of soil and how they relate to our own spiritual journeys. Are we allowing the cares of the world to choke out the life of the Word in us? How can we cultivate good soil that bears fruit in our lives? With personal anecdotes and biblical insights, the hosts challenge listeners to evaluate their own responsiveness to God’s message. Join us for an enlightening conversation that emphasizes the beauty of inclusion in the Kingdom of God, the necessity of true engagement with faith, and the promise that those who genuinely seek will be transformed. Tune in for practical applications that can help guide you in nurturing a rich, fertile heart ready to receive and act on God’s Word.
Why did Jesus choose to speak in parables? Why not just lay it all out clearly? Join the trio of Zach and Jill Dasher, along with Brandon Hudson, as they explore the stickiness of stories and how they shape our understanding of the world around us. Jesus’ parables invite us into a deeper relationship with Him—one that transcends mere knowledge. We’ll discuss the importance of heart posture in receiving God’s message, the significance of being the right kind of soil, and how humility unlocks the secrets of His kingdom. Discover how God isn’t arbitrarily excluding people from His grace but rather inviting us into a heartfelt love relationship. We'll also unpack how the promise of God finds fulfillment in the seed of Jesus Christ and explore the open secret of the kingdom: “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Tune in to learn how leaning in with an open heart can transform our lives and help us bear the fruit of love, joy, and peace. Let’s embark on this journey together, seeking the heart of the matter and uncovering the richness of Jesus’ teachings!
Are you dating, considering dating, or parenting someone through dating? This raw and heartfelt episode features Zach and Jill, along with their son Max Dasher and his girlfriend Annabelle, and is definitely worth a listen. Zach and Jill discuss the beauty of marriage and God's design behind it as they unpack the reasons for delaying physical intimacy until you are in a covenant. Jill opens up about a past relationship and the tough decision she had to make, which led her into a season of loneliness. This conversation is anything but surface-level. From Zach’s attempts to deter the two from dating to Max’s confession that he wished they had listened to his father’s advice, this episode is filled with real-life, applicable wisdom from a Christian perspective.
From broken-down cars and cell phones to kicked-down doors and family disagreements, this episode has it all. It’s often said that the best conversations begin with confession, and that’s precisely how this episode on marriage unfolds. The night before this recording, the Dasher family experienced a disagreement that adds a little extra color to this flavorful and enriching discussion, filled with topics such as: How do you know they’re the one? Do you need the perfect “setup” to get married? What does it mean to be known? Comparison, and what happens when the honeymoon phase is over. Tune in as two young newlyweds discuss the joys and challenges of merging different family dynamics while learning to “leave and cleave.” Zach and Jill share crucial lessons they have learned through their mistakes and attempts to “pretend their way” through marriage. If you’re looking for an honest conversation from two married couples who don’t claim to be experts but are simply pursuing the heart of God through the power of the Holy Spirit, then you won’t want to miss this episode. The fig leaves are coming off in this challenging yet truth-filled discussion, encouraging us to reach a greater level of knowing our spouse.
“What if I’ve blasphemed the Holy Spirit?” It’s a question that lingers in the minds of many believers—and honestly, it’s one we’ve heard more than a few times. It’s a question I have asked myself before. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Jill, Brandon, and I sit down to unpack this often misunderstood and deeply sobering topic. We dig into what it actually means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, why this sin is treated differently in Scripture, and how the Holy Spirit’s role is to guide us into truth, reveal the heart of God, and continually call us to repentance. But when that voice is rejected—when God’s revelation is persistently denied—the consequences are eternal. Throughout the conversation, we explore the importance of community in keeping our faith anchored. Our identity as believers isn’t just personal; it’s communal. We were never meant to walk this road alone, and when it comes to discerning truth, fighting spiritual apathy, and turning back to God, the support of a Christ-centered community is essential. We also talk about the seriousness of sin and the danger of a heart that becomes hardened over time. A healthy fear of God is actually good for us; it keeps us spiritually alert and dependent on grace. But here’s the good news we keep coming back to: repentance is always available to those who seek it. The fact that you’re concerned about blaspheming the Spirit may be the very sign that your heart is still soft enough to respond. Ultimately, we land where we always do—at the cross. Christ’s sacrifice is enough. No matter your past, no matter your questions, He is sufficient. So if this has been weighing on you, don’t carry it alone. Join the conversation, and let’s walk through it together.
Will you join the kingdom or stand against it? In this episode, we dive deep into a riveting confrontation in Mark 3, where Jesus boldly transitions from speaking truth to entering the fray. The simple act of healing a withered hand reveals profound truths about power, compassion, and community. The Pharisees were not seeking truth; they were ready to accuse, embodying a spirit of suspicion that still breeds division today. This episode unpacks the polarizing relationship between the Pharisees and the Herodians, who found unity not in truth, but in enmity toward Jesus. Their anger over the healing stemmed from a fear of losing control. Jesus, however, remains steadfast in his mission, moving with compassion and clarity. When they go low, he dives even deeper—into purpose, love, and the essence of life. The kingdom is not just about avoiding death; it invites us into unity under Christ. Jill shares an eye-opening excerpt from her book, Shallow, highlighting the dangers of slander that poison the body. We discuss how Jesus redefines the Sabbath—not as a rule to break, but as an original intent to restore. His choice of twelve disciples isn't random; it's a reconstruction of Israel’s foundation, building a new temple that includes all of us. This conversation will challenge how you view conflict, control, compassion, and the movement of God. It doesn’t need a strategy—just willing hearts to follow the King.
Why does rest feel so wrong? In a culture that idolizes hustle and busyness, the idea of Sabbath can feel almost rebellious. But Jesus said something stunning: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” What if rest wasn’t a command to obey but a gift to receive?In this episode, Zach and Jill Dasher are joined by Brandon to unpack the deep spiritual roots of Sabbath—from Eden’s stillness to Jesus’ fierce defense of rest. Together, they peel back the layers of guilt, performance, and fear that keep us from ceasing.You’ll hear: • Why true Sabbath exposes us more than it soothes us. • How we use busyness like fig leaves to cover our fear and shame. • The danger of turning rest into another box to check—or a spiritual competition. • What it means to “get rid” instead of “get right” before God. • Why Sabbath is a mirror into our identity—and a doorway into real freedom. This isn’t just a call to slow down. It’s a call to come home. To take off your sandals. To drop the comparisons. To be with God unguarded, unhurried, and unmeasured. This is Sabbath as invitation, not obligation. A gift from the One who is never in a hurry and never in doubt. “You don’t get right to come near to God—you get rid.” Join us as we rethink rest in a restless world. Not Yet Now Episode 33 will change the way you see your calendar—and your soul.
When a man of God like Phil Robertson finishes his race, the ripple effects can’t be measured in headlines — they’re found in legacy. In this special episode of Not Yet Now, Zach and Jill reflect on the life and passing of Zach’s Uncle Phil: a patriarch whose quiet obedience to King Jesus bore fruit across generations. At a time when our culture dismisses the value of fathers, mothers, and generational wisdom, we pause to honor a man who defied that trend — not with power, but with steadfast love and truth. Phil’s life was rooted in the Genesis mandate to be fruitful and multiply, not just biologically, but spiritually — raising up sons, daughters, and disciples anchored in the Kingdom. We talk about what it means to live slow in a microwave culture, to let wisdom ferment with time, and why the death of a faithful elder might just be one of the most countercultural moments we can celebrate. This is a call to remember. A call to honor. A call to live for something that outlives us.
"How do you start a house church?” It's one of the most honest—and loaded—questions we’ve been asked. In this episode of Not Yet Now, we open the door to a vulnerable, Spirit-led conversation about the church outside the institution. Through stories of hurt and healing, we wrestle with the tensions between tradition and authenticity, programs and presence, leadership and love. We explore what it means to gather in the name of Jesus, not around discontent, but around communion and community. If you’ve been burned, bored, or just burdened by church-as-usual, this episode invites you into something smaller, slower, and maybe more sacred.
Rick and Amy Leibold
Great discussion! The question, "What was God doing before he created the Earth?", places God in time, and it is a difficult question for me to wrap my head around.