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On this special episode, Sonari Glinton sits down with 33-year Wall Street veteran and fellow Morgan Stanley podcast host Carla Harris to discuss their careers, the roles they play in fostering opportunity and their experiences around equity in the economic landscape. The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and figures contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2022 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton finds out how changing climates and unpredictable weather will continue to impact coffee crops, create shipping delays, and raise the price of a cup of joe, and what some are doing to help create resilience in the face of these challenges. We meet Luiz Araripe, a Brazilian coffee exporter who’s been in the business for over 40 years. He describes how recent droughts and frost have devastated many farmers. Climate scientist Anders Levermann explains how changing weather will impact the global supply chain for coffee and even more complicated goods. Finally, we hear from Mariana Vasconcelos who grew up on a farm in Brazil and co-founded Agrosmart, a tech company that helps farmers become more sustainable and resilient to climate change. Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2022 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton finds out why some pet owners struggled to find canned food, what’s in pet food to begin with, and why competition for key ingredients may be forcing that to change.Along the way we meet David Saltz, who went to great lengths to track down the only food his finicky cat, Tiger, will eat. Dana Brooks, President of the Pet Food Institute, explains the supply chain challenges pet food makers are facing and Rachelle Cantet of Entoma Petfood outlines why insect protein may be the ideal pet food of the future. Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton finds out why the trucking industry is short tens of thousands of drivers, and how the pandemic exacerbated the problem. We learn about the ways the industry is changing to recruit new drivers - and keep the ones it has - and how innovative thinking and technology could lead to an industry-wide overhaul.In this episode we meet Christopher Johns, a British trucker who’s been driving for 15 years, and knows firsthand why this job is so tough. Kendra Hems, President of the Trucking Association of New York lays out the challenges her industry is facing, and how it’s changing as a result. And Kunwar Walia, a transportation design researcher, unearths some of the baseline issues and how new ways of approaching old problems could help drivers, the industry and the whole supply chain.Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton explores the great kettlebell shortage of 2020, as closed gyms led to unprecedented demand for home exercise equipment. We learn how manufacturing overseas made kettlebells difficult to get, and how bringing the manufacturing to the U.S. and supply chain diversification provided ways to meet the demand, but were far from simple solutions.In this episode we meet Jennifer Lau, co-owner of FitSquad who experienced the kettlebell demand firsthand. At the same time, Jay Perkins, the co-founder of Kettlebell Kings saw his supply of overseas manufactured kettlebells stall when demand was at its highest. We go to Viet Nam to meet Dinh Tien Vu, Director of Vietnam CastIron who was able to manufacture kettlebells in his foundry while Chinese factories were shut down. And we talk to Joe Franklin of USA-Iron, who was able to make kettlebells quickly by producing domestically in the USA.Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton explores why we’ve all been warned to start holiday shopping early. We discover how toymakers are navigating shipping delays, what’s causing those delays, and why local, independent shops have an important role to play in alleviating supply chain shortages.On this episode of our supply chain season, we meet Nora O’Leary, President of Manhattan Toy, who’s had to make some tough decisions this year. Lars Jensen, CEO of Vespucci Maritime, is an expert in the shipping world who breaks down exactly what is breaking down, and why. And we meet Keewa Nurullah, a toy store owner in Chicago, who believes supply chain challenges are highlighting the importance of local, independent shops.Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton delves into the workings of the just-in-time inventory model and how it let down millions of frontline workers at the start of the pandemic. We find out how relationships along the supply chain are deeply critical, and how new technology is provoking a rethink in healthcare manufacturing.In the episode we meet Dr. Andy Artenstein, an infectious disease specialist and Chief Physician at Baystate Health in Massachusetts who went to extremes to get PPE for his staff of thousands. Vanessa Iarocci tells us about how supply chain relationships helped save her business as she pivoted from selling uniforms to PPE. Guarav Manchanda, Director of Medical Market Development at FormLabs, describes being at the hub of a PPE supply chain solution network and what 3-D technology could mean for the future of healthcare manufacturing.Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

In March 2021, the Ever Given cargo ship got stuck in the Suez Canal and opened the world's eyes to the vulnerability of a system we rely on each and every day. In this episode we meet Jan Unander, a Swedish importer who had goods aboard the Ever Given and almost lost his business because of the delays. Jake Slinn, the owner of JS Global Cargo and Freight Disposal, takes us to the Port of Felixstowe to illuminate how much cargo went to waste as a result of the Ever Given stoppage, and the traffic jam of ships stuck behind it. Finally, we meet Port Chaplain Julian Wong, who visited the Ever Given when it docked in Felixstowe and deeply understands the stressful lives of the people who work on cargo ships. Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

The pandemic pushed parents, particularly working mothers, past a breaking point. As the U.S. begins to recover from the economic and social setbacks stemming from so many women leaving the workforce to care for their kids, we look at the history and future of childcare. Host Sonari Glinton talks with three working mothers who have lived through the ups and downs of childcare. Sonia McDaniel is an essential hospital worker and single parent to four daughters between the ages of three and 20. During the pandemic, with daycares and schools closed, she had to find creative solutions to keep her working and keep everyone safe. Ciera Maul has three kids under the age of five and if it weren’t for her company’s onsite daycare, she wouldn’t be in the workforce. Finally, we hear from Julie Kashen, working mother, and economist at The Century Foundation. She has devoted her career to finding public policy solutions for domestic workers and working moms and she feels like people are finally paying attention to childcare and the care economy. The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast. This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it. © 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC.  Members SIPC.

Willie Wright is 63 and lives alone in Cleveland, Ohio while his daughter Lauren lives over 500 miles away in North Carolina. We listen as they talk about the future and how they’ll manage as Willie gets older. Then we meet Iris Yafuso Toguchi, who relies on Kupuna Care, a Hawaiian state program for caregivers, to keep her mother, Irene, at home. Registered nurse Rudy Sukna has spent 20 years working at one of the largest nursing homes in New York. Despite staffing issues, dangerous working conditions, and losing many of his patients to COVID, Rudy still believes nursing homes are a good option for seniors. Finally, we meet Sylvia Mendoza who struggled to find her late mother, Lupe, a nursing home that felt like home... then she discovered The Green House Project.Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton talks to Celeste Headlee, journalist and author of Do Nothing, about burnout, and how that led her to reorient her life and approach to work. Next, we meet Jomar Reyes, who worked at Danish digital marketing agency IIH Nordic as they transitioned to a 4-day work week. Finally, Jennifer Scott is a bike courier and labor activist in Toronto and her work schedule makes 9-5 look like a dream. Jennifer explains how gig workers are fighting for more sustainable careers.Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

Host Sonari Glinton checks in with college student Jacob Sarasohn. When his art school classes went virtual, Jacob decided to put college on hold and become an Emergency Medical Technician. We find out how that experience changed him and if he’ll go back to college. At Georgetown University, we meet Bushra Shaikh and her professor, Elizabeth Grimm, who found ways to make their Zoom class meaningful and effective. Tech CEO LaShana M. Lewis had a difficult time finding her place at college and ended up leaving without a degree. She struggled for years to land a job in her field, until an apprenticeship program offered a breakthrough. Finally, Sonari speaks with Brenda A. Allen, President of Lincoln University, a historically Black university about how a shift to virtual school during the pandemic has brought home the value of the campus experience.Disclaimers: The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and figures contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it. © 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Members SIPC.

Malls were originally designed to be the centerpiece of a community. For a long time, they were. Between the boom in online shopping and over-retailing, many malls were struggling even before the pandemic. Now, experts predict every 1-of-4 malls in the U.S. may close over the next five years. For this episode, we travel around the world to figure out why we go to the mall, how to build them more sustainably and how failing malls are being reimagined.As head of the California Fashion Association, Ilse Metchek visits a different mall every week. She believes malls are no longer about shopping, they’re about experiences. To get a sense of how top-tier experience malls work, we head to Singapore, where restaurateur Howard Lo takes us inside the world-renowned Jewel Changi. Next up: Melbourne Australia, where architect Stephen Choi gives us a tour of Burwood Brickworks, a mall designed around sustainability and climate change. Lastly, we visit the Landmark Mall in Virginia, where Monise Quidley helped turn a defunct department store into a homeless shelter.Disclaimers: The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast. This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it. © 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

In this first episode of our new season, we meet Shelli Taylor, who became the CEO of Alamo Drafthouse Cinemas just weeks after the pandemic temporarily closed all their locations. Cameron Bailey, Artistic Director and Co-Head of the Toronto International Film Festival, talks about diversity in Hollywood, and how the past year is shifting the films and filmmakers we celebrate. Then we meet Vicky Ding, who runs a film sales company in Beijing, where theatres are booming as China takes the lead as the biggest box office in the world.Disclaimers:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and data contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC and Morgan Stanley Smith Barney LLC. Members SIPC.

After nearly two decades of reporting on culture and the economy, host Sonari Glinton meets people who are looking for solutions to the cracks exposed by the pandemic. From how we care for our children and elderly, to what to do with shopping malls... these are stories of everyday people trying to figure things out, and where they’re finding hope.

The pandemic has created a huge mental health crisis. We’re all feeling the strain and many of us are admitting, for the first time, that we need help. It’s ok to not be ok. In the last episode of our season, we look at how this pandemic forces us to examine our own mental health, and helps us erase the stigma around asking for help.Host Sonari Glinton hears how COVID-19 exposed how broken our mental healthcare system already was. Dr. Curtis Wittman reflects on the mental health crisis from the health care front line. Ghazal Azarbad explains why this was the year she took therapy seriously. Camesha L. Jones is a therapist who is seeing more first-time patients than ever. And Dr. Kristen R. Choi is a Registered Nurse who teaches at UCLA. She’s thinking through how this crisis creates opportunities for new approaches and technologies for managing our own mental health.If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health, the following is a list of some mental health resources: In the U.S.A. In the UK. In Canada. For Kids and Teens.The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and figures contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it. © 20201Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Members SIPC.

Education was one of the pandemic’s first casualties. When schools closed overnight, students and teachers switched to virtual classrooms—a massive social experiment that hasn’t been easy on anyone. But it also revealed opportunities to rethink the ways in which we teach, and what is most valuable in education.Host Sonari Glinton speaks with students and teachers to find out how their lives have changed when it comes to school. Eight-year-old Escher Olson moved to a new country with his family, so that he could go to school in person rather than virtually. His mother, Sophie Olson, talks about why they made that decision. Olivia Clarke, a 16 -year-old student—and new author—opted into remote learning at her private girls school. She noticed that, like her, everyone else in her grade who did the same was Black. Ilana Drake and Pratham Dalal talk about what they fear losing when they can’t attend high school in person. Professor and teacher Lindy Elkins-Tanton says online learning will fail if we don’t change how we teach. And elementary school teacher Eppie Miller built an outdoor classroom to help her students through the pandemic. Special thanks to YR Media for helping us connect with the high school students featured in this episode.The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and figures contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast. This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it. © 2021 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Members SIPC.

Before the pandemic, about half of all Americans dined out at least twice a week. The pandemic has pushed hundreds of thousands of restaurants into bankruptcy—and the rest are struggling to stay afloat. In order to keep the lights on, many have shifted their business models, and are embracing innovations and experimentation.Host Sonari Glinton checks in with his friend Steve Lombardo in Chicago, who manages the Gibsons Restaurant Group. They’ve been hit hard by the pandemic. Colleen Vincent of the James Beard Foundation gives us a reality check on the restaurant industry at large—and explains why the stakes are so high. Executive Chef Shaun Garcia, from Soby’s in South Carolina, is teaching would-be diners how to cook his menu in their own homes. Chef Ed Hardy embraces the ghost kitchen model to cook his way out of trouble. And Chef Lex tells us what it was like to cook inside the NBA Bubble.Disclaimer Text:The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and figures contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it. © 2020 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Members SIPC.

Thanks to the pandemic, some 40% of Americans no longer head into the office to get work done. For many, the shift to remote work could be permanent, and yet millions of others do not have that luxury. This trend exacerbates the fault line between those who can, and those who can’t. But as much as experts tout “the end of the office”, a few with years of remote work experience argue that there’s a shelf life to this new way of working - and downsides that must be considered. Host Sonari Glinton hears from NASA astronaut Jessica Meir on her extreme remote work experience stationed aboard the International Space Station during the outbreak. Over in the UK, Ashley Mitchell sold everything he owned and moved himself - and his job - to a tropical paradise. In Mexico, Ali Darwich has worked remotely for years with Modern Tribe. Along with Shane Pearlman, the company founder, they advise us on the benefits and risks of shifting to a distributed workforce. And finally, Michelle Lee is an office workspace designer; she hopes the post-pandemic office is more than just plexiglass and cubicles.The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and figures contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast.This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it. © 2020 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Members SIPC.

Barren airports, anchored cruise ships, vacant hotels—it’s impossible to run a tourism business when international borders close and most of the world shelters in place. There is no doubt the pandemic has pushed the travel industry into a corner: one estimate suggests the industry will lose a trillion dollars in 2020 alone. How do you come back from that? For the time being, it feels like travelling for pleasure is a thing of the past, but the urge to leave home for a little while and explore something new is strong. And pent-up demand from locked-down, would-be tourists could flood the world again soon—but at what cost? What opportunities exist to rebuild a healthier, more sustainable industry?Host Sonari Glinton explores how travel could change. Sound designer Shawn Cole takes his family on a staycation adventure and Brian Hazelton of Winnebago tells us it’s been a record sales year. Meanwhile, Jessica Nabongo, the first Black woman to travel to every country in the world, is stuck at home, and she questions why she travels. In Barbados, Valerie Workman mourns the loss of an industry her island nation is nearly wholly dependent on, but also welcomes the break from the crowds. Traveler and writer Pico Iyer believes travel is about much more than visiting a new place—he says it’s fundamental to being human. And journalist Elizabeth Becker believes it’s time to rethink how we travel when we inevitably do so again.The guest speakers are neither employees nor affiliated with Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC. (“Morgan Stanley”). The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Morgan Stanley. The information and figures contained herein has been obtained from sources outside of Morgan Stanley and Morgan Stanley makes no representations or guarantees as to the accuracy or completeness of information or data from sources outside of Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley is not responsible for the information or data contained in this podcast. This podcast does not provide individually tailored investment advice and is not a solicitation of any offer to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument or to participate in any trading strategy. It has been prepared without regard to the individual financial circumstances and objectives of persons who receive it.© 2020 Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC, Members SIPC.