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Of Dust & Divinity

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Join us as we journey into the most ordinary parts of life to discover the most extraordinary revelations about the universe and our place in it.
Kristie, Rob, and Kaben talk about ethical birth-mother centered adoptions, our inner longing to have good conversations and just what makes a conversation "good", and we wrap up talking about the soul, shadow work, and poetry.
Kristie, Rob, and Kaben explore the question "where does the soul live?" and "after causing so much pain, is there any use for the church?" -- the journey is unexpected and may not go as you think.
Tiffany, Mia, and Kaben explore the question, "What is home?" through the lens of architecture, mobility, natural beauty, and doing the dishes. Oh yeah, and we get into some pretty existential questions as we explore the tensions between living a big adventure and living rooted and connected to time and place.
Tiffany, Mia, and Kaben explore the emerging trend that says, "You can't be a Christian and be a Marxist." Really? Can you be a Christian and be a capitalist? Why isn't that narrative being questioned, and what is behind trying to drive such a strong wedge between Christianity and Marxism? Does it have to do with some of the BLM leaders aligning with Marxist ideology? And does that mean that, subliminally, the messaging is really, "if you're a Christian, you can't support black lives"? Oh heck no!
Josh, Luke, and Kaben talk about power and advocacy, our skin color and the opportunities we've been given only because the deck is stacked in our favor, and we talk about how the pace of life in the pandemic has really let us reconnect with our kids in meaningful ways.
Josh, Luke, and Kaben talk about the strangest things that's happened during the pandemic, we question the narrative of "busyness" that defines so much of American value, and we explore how much we're learning from our kids and what might be in the future for society if we listen to the children more.
Jon, Christopher, and Kaben talk about life as control freaks, the responsible use of power and how adding friction to the system and lower police brutality, and wrap up talking about implicit bias and how we as white males are doing the internal work of becoming aware and working through it.
Jon, Christopher, and Kaben dig deep into themselves, how being a driver can hurt relationships, and what is behind the urge to perform.
Timira, Chris, and Kaben talk about racism -- from the perspective of being three white people doing the internal work, together. The social media “to-dos” are talked about, and we also struggle with when (or whether) to unfollow certain people on social media. We close talking about the power of proximity.
Timira, Chris, and Kaben continue their conversation through racism, processing as white people. We dig into how past failures have opened doors to listen, lament, and change during this time of national outrage around systemic discrimination against black people in America.
Molly, Isaac, and Kaben talk about being your own boss during quarantine, the tragic mis-match of wage vs impact, the guilt we feel when we know we're going to be okay and know that other's won't be, and we wrap up talking about protests, curfews, and the national guard presence in US cities.
Molly, Isaac, and Kaben deep-dive into Isaac's story of sexuality, spirituality, and freedom. Isaac opens up about what it means to him to be a queer, Christian, man living in America.
Jessie, Ariel, and Kaben get distracted talking about working in Hollywood, fighting chronic disease (and exploring the conspiracy theories surrounding them), and what it means to choose to love--through thick and thin.
Ariel, Jessie, and Kaben touch briefly on the complications of #metoo and the importance of action as well as words. We also talk about mental health, and what it's like to grow up in a house with someone who is famous.
Elisabeth Bennett (@enneagram.life) and Jerrad Lopes (@dad.tired) take us into their homes and into their lives as we learn how the Pacific Northwest is creatively adjusting to the reality that pour-over coffee is *really* time-intensive and how they stay authentic as they lead tens of thousands of people every week into a deeper knowing of the soul.
Elisabeth Bennett (@enneagram.life), Jerrad Lopes (@dad.tired), and Kaben explore the enneagram through the lens of pain, grief, conflict, and our internal motivations (which sometimes are less than admirable).
Ajira, Chelsea, and Kaben explore what it means to be a birth worker and we get side-tracked into how birth work and the social uprising of protests against systemic racism hold a lot of overlap. This conversation spans multiple episodes, and I highly recommend tuning in to the whole thing.
Ajira, Chelsea, and Kaben talk about birthing through the lens of power structures, power fragility, and the immense and magical power that comes through giving birth.
Ajira, Chelsea, and Kaben dive deeper into birthing, engaging source through transitions, and the medical-industrial complex: all the wonderful things about modern medicine and also why births don't fix into the matrix of what a hospital exists to accomplish.