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Author: Michael Spangler and Cody Justice

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Retrieving and applying the historic Reformed faith.
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Michael & Cody continue their response to Pastor Gavin Beers, with focus upon the topic of racial segregation.Follow them on X.MichaelCody
Michael & Cody continue their response to Pastor Gavin Beers, this time focusing upon the topic of racial superiority.Follow us on X:MichaelCody
Michael & Cody sit down again with returning guest, Michael Hunter, to discuss the topic of persecution in the church, each relaying some of their own personal experiences. They also raise some lessons and answer follower questions.
Michael & Cody review and discuss the book, The Sword of Christ by Giles Corey, published by Antelope Hill. Episode outline: book contents summary, our critiques and commendations, particular discussion points, and questions / comments of X followers. Highlights:Is Christianity is right-wing?Why is it legitimate to say organized Christianity is largely corrupt?Should we consider Jews a prime enemy of our faith and civilization?How are Jews involved in sexual degeneracy?Does Christianity support or reject "ethnonationalism"?Is pacifism a requirement for Christians?Violence: lawful at times, or not?Jews, Canaanites, Palestinians, & genetics.Two-kingdom distinction and our present confusions.Republicans & anti-semitism; Ron DeSantis in Israel.Russell Moore: white supremacy is Satanism, blood & soil is idolatry.Paul Gottfried: the loss of Calvinism has produced our present ills.Christianity: Germanized essentially or accidentally?C. I. Scofield: Confederate deserter, miscreant, family-abandoner, heresy spreader.Samuel Untermeyer & John Hagee.Has Christianity always been anti-semitic?The Talmud on the Lord Jesus Christ.Jewish hostility in porn, erosion of obscenity laws, critical theory, freudianism, feminism, pedophilia, gambling, contraception, abortion, ritual murder, and more.Christianity in other regions and among other races.Slavery, pacifism, violence, and the Crusades.
Michael & Cody continue the topic of Christian Race Realism, drawing from Michael's article series from the Pactum Institute, now available for⁠ pre-order as a book from Sacra Press⁠, with a special dedicatory epistle to President Donald Trump. Use code: OLDPATHS at checkout for a discount. Episode highlights:Changes in racesIs race unimportant?Galatians, James, & racial partialityThe Old Testament & interracial marriageThe life-saving virtue of racismVictims & victim blamingGoing on the offenseBeware the "brother" concernsSteel your mind for warIs it possible to flip the shibboleths?Own the Enemy's truthRacial prejudice: a gospel helpBeing a Christian in your raceWhite effeminacy & cowardiceLoss of natural affection linked to loss of the Christian FaithJoel Berry's dingleberry crusadePolitics, association, & religion
Marrow 10: Man's Fall

Marrow 10: Man's Fall

2025-03-1001:12:09

Michael & Cody continue through The Marrow of Theology by William Ames, with focus on man's fall. Highlights:Men and angels in the fall.Causes and consequences of the fall.The parts and motions of sin.Egalitarianism & disordered nature.Satan's method of temptation.The projections & "pious" pretensions of wicked men.The dangers of gullibility and over-charity.The necessity of men to tell women no.The fall as apologetic tool.Embracing hierarchy.Doom of the angels.Thankfulness to God.
Michael & Cody respond to Pastor Gavin Beers of the FCC on the topic of Christian Nationalism, by playing his sermon-review of Stephen Wolfe's book, The Case for Christian Nationalism. They use it as an opportunity for discussion and criticism. Highlights: Christ the Edge Lord Reactionary vs. Stationary CN vibes & memes Dangers of anachronism Nationalism Christianized: bad or good? Reformed political theory: Aristotelian or Biblicist? False dichotomies of Scripture & Nature Rutherford's political non-sequitur The insufficiency of Scripture Covenanter weirdos Romantic ethnonationalism Jewish Supremacy vs. White Supremacy The gospel of blood and soil The Christian Prince Fascists in Scripture Rutherford: against or for CN? Religious establishment: dogmatic or pragmatic? America as it is Popery: compatible with CN? Papists vs. Jews as political malignants Is it wrong to want countrymen who look like you? Non-Christian European vs. Nigerian Anglican Right-wing: natural + common sense No redpilled, based men: no Christian nation Political change: top-down or bottom-up? CNs as the nation; Covenanters as foreignersNational Religion by Gavin Beers (4 Part Series)
Michael & Cody are joined by Michael Hunter for a discussion surrounding the book, The Marrow of Christian Ethics—be sure to pickup a copy—by Benedict Pictet, the nephew of Francis Turretin. The Marrow is a concise treatise of classical reformed ethics which Michael Hunter recently translated and published. Highlights: Hunter's college background and studies Thoughts on retrieval Who is Benedict Pictet? Why publish this book? Survey of the book's contents The discipline of Ethics and how it has been neglected The importance of Ethics for preaching Man as a social creature Maintaining friendships Self-love, priority of love, and hatred Good works—condition of the Covenant of Grace, for eternal glory, etc. Modern views of good works vs. Benedict Pictet Emotions—what they are, what place they have, how they help us in nature Pleasure and Christian hedonismPurchase the book here.Read Michael Hunter's excellent Natural Communties articles here.
Michael & Cody respond to Pastor Gavin Beers of the FCC on the topic of the Bible and immigration, by playing his sermon and using it as an opportunity for discussion and criticism. Highlights: Christian Nationalism Hitler as Christian Prince Fascism and National Socialism Ethnonationalism, and blood and soil Is it wrong to want a nation where people look like you? Is the true religion the primary concern for all political questions? Should we oppose heart piety to political concerns? How should modern-day Japan and Israel inform us on the question of race and nations? Is America a combination of different nations or races? Is it wrong to want to marry someone of the same race? The prevailing mistake of pandering to the margins What is a political application for us today from Israel being oppressed in Egypt? Does this demand open borders? Should this impinge on the White race? The Old Testament, and questions of race and nation Quotes on the Jews from reformed fathers (Keckermann, Burgersdijk, Voetius) What does "one from among thy brethren" mean? America and White supremacy The political heart piety of Nehemiah, Josiah, & Moses How mass immigration has and is harming us Why anti-racism means Kenya must let in Whites, Asians, and Indians The importance of race and genealogy for Christology Are Christian Nationalists and those like them misled by Satan?
Michael & Cody take up the topic of Christian Race Realism, drawing from Michael's article series from the Pactum Institute, and soon to be published as a book with Sacra Press. Highlights: What is race? race realism? Christian race realism? The relation of the family to race. Are races and nations flexible? Scripture on the topic of race. Nature on the same. Is race merely skin color? Are racial differences small or large, fluid or permanent? Should we acknowledge racial diversity? celebrate it? defend it? What is the advantage of appealing to Scripture on this topic? Does Christian Race Realism have utility as an apologetic to unbelievers and right-wingers? What are some examples of oppression in the State today concerning race? what about persecution in the Church? Is Liberalism a form of sociopsychological oppression? The Civil Rights Regime and anti-White evil. David VanDrunen's denial of reality. The shadow confession of the church. Examples of anti-racism in the reformed churches. Should race realists go on the offensive? Israel's civil law and race realism. The ordo amoris and races. Abraham and Isaac seeking spouses from their own. Is the Bible anti-racist? or does it assume race realism? Are the Woke totally wrong, or do they have a point? White supremacy—good or bad?
Michael & Cody continue through The Marrow of Theology by William Ames, with focus upon chapter 10: special government of intelligent creatures. Highlights: Definition of special government. Moral vs. physical government. The relation of man's nature and God's special government. God's condescension in human characteristics and human language in his special government. Divine sanctions: promises and threats. Does God deal with rational men in a rational way? How does Ames define & distinguish a covenant? Is the Suzerain framework good or bad? Angels—same government as man? In what way can we say the fall glorifies God? Use of earthly things for holy ends. Adam as a public person and federal head. The covenant of works and merit. Was there a necessity of Christ's mediation before the Fall? Objections to the covenant of works: the word "covenant" is not used in Genesis; the covenant of works promotes legalism; is faith a part of the covenant of works?; it's unfair for one man to represent all and to risk death. How the covenant of works and of grace should motivate us to holiness. God's justice in punishment of death. The relation between Adam in the garden and Christ in the gospels.
Women & Modesty

Women & Modesty

2025-02-1802:19:00

Michael & Cody take up the topic of women and modesty. First, they define woman; second, they define and distinguish modesty; third, they consider some examples of immodesty and applications of modesty, including motives for modesty; and fourth and finally, they wrap up with objections and submitted questions. Highlights:Nature, experience, and Scripture on womanSocial and aesthetic power of womanPersonal & sensual modesty / immodestyWhat is the relation of modesty to the law of God?Other principles, like charity and loyaltyWhat place do women have in social media?Loud, argumentative, unruly womenWomen in male spaces: why a problem?What constitutes sensual immodesty?How have modesty standards regressed?The magistrate & public immodestyRosaria Butterfield, Chris Gordon, Anthony DiehlShould pastors preach on women's modesty?The use of "whore" and immodestyWomen weaponizing sexualityThe refreshing, enriching power of modestyFor whom are the sensual treats?Is modesty objective or subjective?What is the relationship between modesty in dress and behavior?Must women hide their figure to be modest?Are pants immodest? What about makeup? Showing hair?The red dress controversyMust modesty be boring?Resources:David Silversides'⁠ sermon on modesty⁠⁠Manuscript⁠ of SilversidesFree book:⁠Christian Modesty & the Public Undressing of America⁠ by Jeff Pollard
Marrow 8: Providence

Marrow 8: Providence

2025-02-1852:15

S2E15—Marrow 8: Providence — Michael & Cody continue through ⁠⁠The Marrow of Theology⁠⁠, by William Ames, with particular focus upon Providence. Highlights: What is providence? its etymology? its parts? and how is it distinct from the decree, counsel, and creation? How should we consider God's attributes (e.g. justice, wisdom, holiness) in relation to providence? Primary and secondary causes: what are they, why should we care, and what can we learn? Participation in the divine. Should this doctrine beget activity or passivity in us? The abuse of providence. Ordinary and extraordinary providence; Hurricane Helene and western North Carolina. What is God's incarnate justice and comfort? How do they relate to providence? President Donald Trump and the bullet—extraordinary providence? Fear and thanks. Conservation and government: what are they: how can we see them today? what can we learn? Paul, Titus, and the imitation of God's conservation and government. Common government vs. special government. How does God cause secondary causes? How can we draw comfort from the seeming conflict of secondary causes? Thomas Cartwright's applications. Romans 8:28 and providence. If God causes all things, does he cause sin? If not, do we have hope? How should Christians think this through?
S2E14: Haitian Crusaders w/ Matt Marino — Cody, Michael, & returning guest, ⁠Matt Marino⁠, engage in discussion on two chief topics: the dynamics of immigration and the metaphysics of historiography. Inspired by Matt's two articles: ⁠Who is the Sojourner?⁠ and ⁠The Lost Tools of Learning from History.⁠ Highlights: Sojourner—defined and abused. Is America being deliberately destroyed through illegals? Abuses of Scripture to justify demographic warfare. Can we love humanity in general? Who is a neighbor?—can Wolfgang Musculus help us here? The imago Dei and immigration. How is our compassion exploited? Is the government required by God's law to remove illegals? Who is a native? Is C. Jay Engel's "Heritage American" helpful? Can Aristotle help? What place does race play? Culture? The ⁠"Anglo-Saxon supremacy"⁠ demanded by the VA Senate in 1905 + the NC and SC demands of immigrants of Celtic, Teutonic, and Saxon origins. Is America facing an identity crisis? Has the 1965 Hart-Celler Act radically redefined America? The failure of Blacks to assimilate into White America—real, important? Discussing race & politics without lighting our hair on fire. The reality of race as expressed in voting patterns. Hostiles vs. Hospitables. If the "immigrants" are in need, why are they all military-aged males? Natural law—does it require distinct nations and borders? The place of voting in these things. Political liars and gaslighters. Is the invasion of illegals a judgment of God? Gideon & Samson as lesser saviors of God's people while God was yet judging his people. The prophets on strangers as a judgment. Passivity and pacifism—besetting sins of our age and church? Is it a matter of natural law to defend your own people and place, even using violence if need be? How John Piper & James White fail here. Metaphysical thinking and the Crusades, the Civil War, and WW2. What place should the Civil War have in our thinking today? The South as one of the last holdouts of Christian orthodoxy; as a real opponent against egalitarianism, including upholding slavery; and as upholding racial superiority and inferiority. Are things that are not the gospel important? "Not the gospel" is deployed against political interests. Apolitical posture—idolatry? The punch right, kiss left spirit. Should "metaphysical thinking" be applied to WW2? The failure of piecemeal facts vs. the narrative. The place of shotgun facts in destroying the narrative. Proxy battles vs. substance, e.g. Romanists vs Protestants, the Crusades, etc. Can a syllogism convert the masses? The place of vibes and memes in sociopolitical renewal. The Holodomor, 10M Germans starved, Adolf Hitler & Christianity. Righteous deconstruction. Stephen Wolfe as a brilliant Twitter troll. Historiography as self-loathing and damning heroes. Dabney & Secession; Crusades & the present invasion of the West by Islam. The difference between how Crusades may have been used by Romanists in the past vs. how they are abused today against us. Responding effectively to the shibboleths and struggle sessions of words like racist, Nazi, white supremacist, and events like WW2, the Civil War, and Civil Rights. The danger of friendly fire & undue fear. Do not play the disavowal game. Purity spiraling & the failure of the Right to unite against a common enemy. Struggle sessions as opportunity for victory. The rationality of becoming white supremacist.
Marrow 7: Creation

Marrow 7: Creation

2025-02-1801:27:47

S2E13—Marrow 7: Creation — Benjamin, Michael, & Cody continue through ⁠The Marrow of Theology⁠, by William Ames, with particular focus upon Creation. Highlights: Creation ex nihilo. What is the creator-creature distinction? Is macro-evolution compatible with Christianity? What about micro-evolution, speciation, & natural selection? Will earth or heaven be our final home? The 3rd heaven and annihilation of earth. What are angels, and why is the idea of angel-human hybrids stupid? 1 Enoch, Jude, Nephilim, sons of God & daughters of men. Fanciful speculation about the angelic and spiritual world. Pit bulls—utter abomination or useful destroyer of creatures? "Grace restores nature"—what does this mean and why should we care? Is it crucial? Ames & Paul: modern sexists. Do ladies need to get out of politics? Beth Moore & Rosaria Butterfield. Men need to restrain their women. Dominion—what is it? How should it factor into our thinking and ethics?
Marrow 6: Decree of God

Marrow 6: Decree of God

2025-02-1801:12:23

S2E12—Marrow 6: Decree of God — Benjamin, Michael, & Cody continue through The Marrow of Theology, by William Ames, with particular focus upon the decree of God. Raised in this episode: The counsel of God. Divine perfections in the decree. Thomas Cartwright on the question. What role does God's glory have in the decree? The danger of denying God's decree. In what ways does God's decree govern time and history? How should we meditate upon this? Learning from Stonewall Jackson. Middle knowledge and its failure. The free offer of the gospel and its relation to the decree. Why do some deny the free offer? How should this chapter prevent abuses in preaching and evangelism? Infralapsarianism vs. supralapsarianism. Does Ames take a side? What does Dabney say? The problem of evil and the decree of God.Buy A Treatise of Christian Religion by Thomas Cartwright ⁠⁠here⁠⁠.Visit ⁠⁠Sacra Press⁠⁠ for more books.
S2E11—Stephen Wolfe: CN Civil Law Q&A — Benjamin, Michael, & Cody are joined again by ⁠Stephen Wolfe⁠, this time to discuss some of the material from his book, ⁠The Case for Christian Nationalism⁠, specifically chapter 6 on the topic of civil law. Michael gives a brief update on his OPC situation. Highlights: Why has this chapter not had as much interest as others? What is the relationship between civil law and natural law? Is it possible for secular liberals or libertarians to affirm Stephen's position? Do we need to oppose individuality and collectivity? Would Owen Strachan approve of Stephen's use of Cicero? James Lindsay vs. R. L. Dabney. How is this material both intellectually and experientially satisfying? Does the magistrate have power to touch the conscience? What is the danger of the magistrate being prudentially minded? Is the magistrate forbidden from any interest in the souls of his people? Can the Christian Prince use civil power to facilitate religion and spiritual good? Is Stephen saying anything new here, or can we find this in men like Thomas Cartwright? Why does the magistrate punish heresy or blasphemy? What can we learn from the way people treat "racists"? Does the shifting national expression of Old Covenant Israel suggest that the judicial law is universally applicable? What are some of the weaknesses of theonomy? Has Stephen's opinion of theonomists changed since writing his book? What does Stephen think about some of the civil problems in Canada? Is there a sharp distinction between revolution and civil resistance? What are the books that Stephen is working on?
Eschatology & Israel Part 2

Eschatology & Israel Part 2

2025-02-1803:19:20

S2E10: Eschatology & Israel Part 2 —Benjamin & Cody continue their discussion and debate concerning Israel in Romans 9-11, briefly reviewing the ground covered in the last episode, and marching forward through many of the particulars in chapters 10 and 11.Cody maintains and elaborates on his position that Romans 9:6 and Romans 11:25-26 is speaking of True Israel vs. False Israel, and that Paul's interest is to parse through the complexity of the present using the past (the OT) as a key, rather than to predict some distant future event, and that when Paul speaks of Jewish salvation he is incredibly reserved. Benjamin maintains and elaborates on his position that every instance of the word "Israel" concerns only ethnic Israelites, i.e. elect vs. non-elect, and that Paul envisions a definite future salvation for the Jewish nation, which Benjamin sees as being rooted in places from Ezekiel and Jeremiah.Touched on in this episode: What does Paul mean by "their fulness" in Romans 11:12? Why does Cody think men make unwarranted deductions about ethnic Israel's future in Romans 11? To what end has the Jewish nation fallen? What is the "mystery" of Romans 11:25? Are there any other passages which should bear upon this question? Why does Paul use the word οὕτως in Romans 11:26, and how should this best be translated and understood? Is Jeremiah 31 in any way relevant for the future of the Jewish nation and its salvation? Is Hosea important to understanding the identity of Israel in Romans 9-11? What should we make of Paul's citation in Romans 11:26-27? Is it from Isaiah? Is it salvation? Is it judgment? Is there a chiastic structure to Romans 9-11? In what way is the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 relevant to our interpretation of these things?
Eschatology & Israel Part 1

Eschatology & Israel Part 1

2025-02-1801:27:48

S2E9: Eschatology & Israel Pt. 1 — Benjamin & Cody take up a more free-form discussion. They lay out the basics of eschatology, both in terms of the millennium and the different interpretive approaches. Then they follow this up with a longer debate on Israel and Romans 9-11, where their differences and disagreements are shown. Touched on in this episode: Benjamin & Cody's different experiences with eschatology and the question of the future of the Jews. Why care about the Jews in relation to eschatology? What is the context of Romans 11? How should we understand Israel in Romans 9:6? What is Paul's burden in Romans 9-11? Is Paul prophesying the future or parsing through the present? What did Calvin and others say on Romans 11:25?
Piety Provoked

Piety Provoked

2025-02-1801:11:40

S2E8: Piety Provoked — Benjamin, Michael, and Cody take up the topic of piety provoked, derived from Psalm 119:139. They parse through the key parts, raise a number of scriptural examples and confirmations, and give some applications. They touch on things like: Zeal must issue in being provoked. Should we have enemies? Is there a place in the Christian life for hatred? to be indignant? to wield anger? The danger of false or misguided zeal. Examples from Paul, Phinehas, David, Elihu, and Christ. The balance between mocking and weeping. Whether warnings against being a reactionary are useful or straitjacket us from agency? The inevitability of zeal and being provoked. Why did Luther counsel Melanchthon to sin boldly? The unintended danger of faddish zeal. What are some benefits of being provoked? Is it always wrong to allow the enemy to dictate the terms of battle, or are there instances where God blesses those who fight in faith and embrace the antithesis?
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