On Location With Sean Martin And Marco Ciappelli

Guest: EJ Wise, Founder & Principal, WiseLawOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/wiselaw3/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesAgainst the energetic backdrop of Melbourne's CyberCon, hosted by ISA, the conversation dives into the global nature of technology's influence. The trio reflects on pressing topics such as privacy, cybersecurity, and the shifting landscape of cyber law, all while situated in one of Australia’s most tech-forward cities.EJ Wise’s Journey and PerspectiveEJ Wise shared her remarkable career path, starting as a member of the U.S. Air Force JAG Corps and later founding her boutique law firm in Australia in 2018. Her firsthand experience sheds light on Australia’s relatively recent introduction of comprehensive cyber laws and the ongoing need to bridge the gap between technological innovation and legislative action.Educating Consumers: A Shared ResponsibilityA key focus of the conversation was consumer awareness. EJ highlighted the critical need for industries to take responsibility for educating the public, much like banks have historically done with financial literacy. The discussion also touched on embedding technological literacy into early education, ensuring children grow up with a clear understanding of privacy and digital security.Technology and Ethics in TensionThe group examined the ethical challenges posed by advancing technologies, especially regarding surveillance and data privacy. From facial recognition in retail spaces to the increasing capabilities of modern devices to monitor user behavior, the conversation drew thought-provoking parallels between these innovations and the history of advertising practices.The ethical implications of such technologies go far beyond convenience, raising questions about transparency, consent, and societal norms in the digital age.Legal Frameworks and Industry ResponsibilityMarco and Sean explored the evolving role of legal frameworks in holding industry players accountable for consumer safety and privacy. EJ’s insights provided a grounded perspective on how regulatory environments are adapting—or struggling to adapt—to these challenges.The discussion underscored a growing trend: companies must not only comply with existing laws but also anticipate and mitigate the societal impacts of their technologies.Encouraging Dialogue and ReflectionThroughout the episode, the importance of open dialogue and introspection emerged as a recurring theme. By examining how technology shapes society and law, the discussion encouraged listeners to reflect on their digital habits and the privacy trade-offs they make in their daily lives.ConclusionWhile the conversation didn’t provide all the answers, it illuminated the complexities of the interplay between technology, law, and society. EJ, Marco, and Sean left listeners with an invitation to remain curious, question norms, and consider their role in shaping a more ethically aware digital future.This episode captures the spirit of CyberCon 2024—sparking ideas, inspiring debate, and reinforcing the need for thoughtful engagement with the challenges of our hybrid analog-digital society.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guests: Benji Zorella, eLearning Instructional Designer, CyberCXOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjiz/Rebecca Caldwell, Phishing Content Specialist, Phriendly PhishingOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bec-j-caldwell/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesKicking off the episode, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli highlight the uniquely local flavor of the conference. With Benji and Bec calling Melbourne home, the guests reflect on the value of attending such a prominent event in their backyard while drawing on their experiences as hosts of their own cybersecurity podcast.Unmasking Phishing in the Digital AgePhishing takes center stage as Benji and Bec share stories and insights about the dangers lurking behind cleverly crafted scams. Sean Martin draws a clever comparison between traditional fishing methods and the digital phishing tactics cybercriminals use today—hooking victims by exploiting their trust and curiosity.Benji drives the conversation deeper, explaining how a person's digital footprint—especially in an age of AI-driven tools like deepfakes—can be weaponized for deception. The guests underscore the importance of remaining vigilant and minimizing the personal information we leave online, turning our digital habits into our best line of defense.Cybersecurity Education: The First Line of DefenseShifting gears, the group emphasizes the need to move beyond relying solely on tech-driven safeguards and focus on building a culture of cybersecurity awareness within organizations. Bec Caldwell shares actionable strategies, likening cybersecurity education to learning how to drive—starting small and gradually building confidence in spotting risks. Empowering employees to question suspicious contexts fosters not just better security, but a collaborative culture of accountability.AI: Friend or Foe?The role of AI emerges as a hot topic, sparking a discussion about its dual impact on cybersecurity. While AI enables sophisticated phishing attacks, it also holds the potential to strengthen defenses. The panel imagines AI tools evolving to provide real-time security nudges, similar to how cars alert drivers to potential hazards. It’s a balancing act, as AI must be wielded thoughtfully to enhance—not replace—human vigilance.The Human Factor in CybersecurityThroughout the conversation, one message resonates: the enduring power of human intuition. Benji recounts a gripping story of a CEO who thwarted a highly advanced phishing attempt with a simple, old-school phone verification. This moment reinforces the idea that while tech can improve security measures, the human touch remains irreplaceable.Future-Proofing CybersecurityAs the episode winds down, the group reflects on thought-provoking audience questions from the conference. From AI’s impact on CISO responsibilities to how generational shifts in digital communication shape cybersecurity strategies, the guests underscore the need for adaptability as both technology and society evolve.A Final Call to ActionMarco Ciappelli and Sean Martin wrap up with a clear takeaway for their listeners: stay curious, ask questions, and embrace skepticism online. The key to navigating today’s cyber landscape is a mix of awareness, education, and the occasional gut check—because even in a tech-driven world, the human element is our greatest asset.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesBytes with Bec and Benji podcast: https://www.phriendlyphishing.com/resources/podcastsLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

This engaging Brand Story episode comes to you from AISA CyberCon 2024, in Melbourne, where Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli explore with Jade Wilkie how ThreatLocker empowers organizations to achieve Zero Trust security and Essential Eight compliance through innovative tools and real-time adaptability. Learn how industry insights from the conference are shaping the future of cybersecurity solutions while keeping human-centric strategies at the forefront.Learn more about ThreatLocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974Note: This story contains promotional content. Learn more.Guests: Jade Wilkie, Account Executive APAC, ThreatLocker [@ThreatLocker]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jade-wilkie-salesprofessional/ResourcesEssential Eight: https://itspm.ag/threatq55qZero Trust World: https://itspmagazine.com/zero-trust-world-2025-cybersecurity-and-zero-trust-event-coverage-orlando-floridaLearn more and catch more stories from ThreatLocker: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/threatlockerView all of our AISA Cyber Con 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaAre you interested in telling your story?https://www.itspmagazine.com/telling-your-story

Guest: Joseph Carson, Chief Security Scientist (CSS) & Advisory CISO, DelineaOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephcarson/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesAt AISA Cyber Con 2024, amidst the bustling energy of Melbourne, the conversation between Sean Martin, Marco Ciappelli, and Joseph Carson provided a unique perspective on cybersecurity challenges and insights. The setting wasn’t just a backdrop—it was a canvas where shared experiences and professional journeys painted a vivid picture of evolving cyber threats and collaborative defense strategies.The Dynamics of EngagementThe dialogue kicked off with a casual and candid exchange, where the speakers reflected on the nuances of attending conferences—long walks between sessions, weather swings, and the unexpected yet pleasant surprise of encountering familiar faces. Marco and Sean seamlessly blended humor and camaraderie into their conversation, making the technical discussion both engaging and relatable.Insights on Ransomware RealitiesJoseph Carson shared a deeply technical yet accessible walkthrough of ransomware attacks. He explained his approach to recreating real-world scenarios to educate organizations on vulnerabilities and lessons learned. He highlighted that while AI garners much attention, attackers often rely on basic techniques that remain effective. His revelation that many victims still struggle with simple misconfigurations and weak credential management served as a stark reminder of cybersecurity’s foundational importance.The audience's reaction underscored the relevance of these insights. Many attendees, identifying parallels with their organizational experiences, approached Carson afterward to share stories or seek advice. This interactive exchange emphasized the importance of open dialogue and proactive learning in addressing cyber threats.Ethical and Strategic Considerations in CybersecurityThe discussion also touched on the ethical dilemmas surrounding ransomware payments. Carson recounted incidents where organizations faced the difficult decision to pay ransoms to save critical operations. His narrative of assisting a cancer research organization emphasized that these decisions are fundamentally business-driven, balancing continuity against principles.Sean and Marco expanded on the implications of regulatory frameworks. They debated the effectiveness of Australia’s laws permitting ransomware payments under strict disclosure conditions, exploring whether such measures could foster collaboration between government agencies and the private sector or inadvertently sustain the criminals’ business model.Global Trends and Local ChallengesThe conversation delved into how sanctions and geopolitics influence cybercrime. Carson explained how ransomware operators adapt their strategies, targeting regions with fewer regulatory constraints or financial barriers. He emphasized the need for global cooperation to create a resilient cybersecurity ecosystem, advocating for shared intelligence and collaborative defense measures.Marco’s observations on the societal aspect of cybersecurity resonated strongly. He noted that resilient countries could inadvertently shift the burden of ransomware to less developed regions, highlighting the ethical responsibility to extend cybersecurity efforts globally.Final Thoughts: Building a Safer Digital WorldThe discussion wrapped up with a call for cooperation and proactive measures. Whether through fostering societal awareness or tightening organizational controls, the speakers agreed that tackling cybercrime requires a unified effort. Carson emphasized that sharing knowledge—be it through podcasts, conferences, or direct collaboration—creates a ripple effect of security.This conversation at AISA Cyber Con wasn’t just an exchange of ideas but a demonstration of the power of collaboration in combating the ever-evolving challenges of cybersecurity. Through humor, storytelling, and expertise, Sean, Marco, and Carson left their audience not only informed but inspired to act.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Ahmad Salehi Shahraki, Lecturer (Assistant Professor) in Cybersecurity, La Trobe UniversityOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmad-salehi-shahraki-83494152/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesDuring this "On Location" podcast episode at AISA CyberCon 2024, host Sean Martin welcomed guest Ahmad Salehi Shahraki to discuss cutting-edge developments in access control, identity management, and cybersecurity infrastructure.Ahmad, a lecturer at La Trobe University specializing in authentication, authorization, applied cryptography, and blockchain, shared insights into transitioning from traditional access control models like Role-Based Access Control (RBAC) to more advanced Attribute-Based Access Control (ABAC). Ahmad emphasized that while RBAC has served as the backbone of organizational security for decades, its centralized nature and limitations in cross-domain applications necessitate the shift to ABAC. He also highlighted a critical aspect of his research: leveraging cryptographic primitives like attribute-based group signatures to enhance security and privacy while enabling decentralization without relying on blockchain.Sean and Ahmad explored the technical and operational implications of ABAC. Ahmad described how this model uses user attributes—such as location, role, and organizational details—to determine access permissions dynamically. This contrasts with RBAC's reliance on predefined roles, which can lead to rule exploitation and administrative inefficiencies.Ahmad also discussed practical applications, including secure digital health systems, enterprise environments, and even e-voting platforms. One innovative feature of his approach is "attribute anonymity," which ensures sensitive information remains private, even in peer-to-peer or decentralized setups. For example, he described how his system could validate an individual’s age for accessing a service without revealing personal data—a critical step toward minimizing data exposure.The conversation expanded into challenges organizations face in adopting ABAC, particularly the cost and complexity of transitioning from entrenched RBAC systems. Ahmad stressed the importance of education and collaboration with governments and industry players to operationalize ABAC and other decentralized models.The episode closed with Ahmad reflecting on the robust feedback and collaboration opportunities he encountered at the conference, underscoring the growing interest in decentralized and privacy-preserving solutions within the cybersecurity industry. Ahmad’s research has attracted attention globally, with plans to further develop and implement these models in Australia and beyond.Listeners are encouraged to follow Ahmad’s work and connect via LinkedIn to stay informed about these transformative approaches to cybersecurity.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

The HITRUST CyberInsurance Webinar unveiled an innovative approach to acquiring cyber insurance, highlighting a streamlined process designed to benefit organizations of all sizes and sectors. Gathering insights from industry leaders including Sean Martin, Josh Ladeau, Sidney Prasse, Robert Booker, and Blake Sutherland, the discussion centered around the HITRUST Shared Risk Facility and its value proposition for organizations seeking robust cyber insurance coverage.Josh Ladeau, CEO of Trium, emphasized the importance of reducing volatility in the insurance market. He pointed out the challenges organizations face with traditional insurance processes, including cumbersome questionnaires and inconsistent underwriting requirements. By leveraging HITRUST certifications, the Shared Risk Facility offers a consistent, transparent, and efficient pathway for obtaining coverage, ensuring organizations can focus more on their core operations rather than administrative burdens.Sidney Prasse, a cyber specialist at McGill and Partners, highlighted the comprehensive nature of HITRUST certifications, which provide a high level of assurance and a robust framework for organizations. Prasse elaborated on the return on investment (ROI) that organizations gain from this streamlined approach, not only in terms of competitive premiums but also through time and resource efficiencies.Robert Booker, Chief Strategy Officer at HITRUST, elaborated on the rigorous processes involved in HITRUST certifications. He explained that these certifications require organizations to demonstrate their security maturity comprehensively, which in turn provides insurers with verified, reliable data. This reliability and transparency in security posture are critical, as they enhance the trust between insurers and insureds, making the underwriting process smoother and more accurate.Blake Sutherland, EVP of Market Engagement at HITRUST, emphasized the importance of proactive engagement between IT security teams and finance or risk management teams within organizations. He noted that the HITRUST approach helps bridge gaps between these departments, ensuring a unified and effective strategy towards obtaining and maintaining cyber insurance coverage.The webinar underscored that the HITRUST Shared Risk Facility is not just about easier and more efficient insurance processes; it also represents a strategic advantage in the market. Organizations that are HITRUST certified can differentiate themselves, demonstrating a high level of security and compliance that can be pivotal in securing business contracts. This differentiation is particularly crucial as businesses increasingly rely on third-party attestation to verify their security measures.Ultimately, the HITRUST CyberInsurance Webinar showcased how strategic partnerships and innovative approaches can transform the traditional cyber insurance landscape, providing organizations with the tools they need to effectively manage risk and achieve better overall security.Learn more about HITRUST: https://itspm.ag/itsphitwebNote: This story contains promotional content. Learn more.Guests: Blake Sutherland, EVP Market Adoption, HITRUST [@HITRUST]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/blake-sutherland-38854a/Robert Booker, Chief Strategy Officer, HITRUST [@HITRUST]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbooker/Sidney Prasse, Partner, McGill & PartnersOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidney-prasse-297894aa/Josh Ladeau, CEO, Trium CyberResourcesEnhancing Cyber Insurance with HITRUST: Streamlining Coverage through Strategic Partnerships (Session): Learn more and catch more stories from HITRUST: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/hitrustView all of our HITRUST Collaborate 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/hitrust-collaborate-2024-information-risk-management-and-compliance-event-coverage-frisco-texasAre you interested in telling your story?https://www.itspmagazine.com/telling-your-story

During the latest Brand Story episode recorded as part of the On Location series at HITRUST Collaborate 2024, host Sean Martin speaks with Ryan Griffin from McGill Partners about the intricacies of cyber insurance.Ryan Griffin, who plays a key role at the cyber insurance brokerage firm McGill Partners, shares insights into the importance of cyber insurance for large and complex organizations. Griffin outlines how the company helps clients understand and quantify their cyber risks before negotiating with over 100 cyber insurers to secure coverage. This rigorous approach is crucial given the volatile nature of cyber risks.One of the significant challenges in the field, Griffin notes, is the counterparty risk involved in contractual relationships between large organizations. He emphasizes the necessity for businesses to carry adequate insurance coverage, akin to traditional liability insurance. Griffin reflects on the market evolution where organizations now see the value in cyber insurance, which should ideally cover rare but high-impact events.The episode also highlights the pivotal role of data in understanding and pricing cyber risks. Sean Martin brings attention to the collaboration between McGill Partners and HITRUST. HITRUST's extensive data on cybersecurity and privacy maturity provides Griffins' team with a strong foundation for tailored cyber insurance solutions. Griffin praises HITRUST’s reliable framework that has been in place since 2007-2008, saying it’s a key differentiator in the cyber insurance space.Sean Martin also notes the ongoing evolution in how organizations approach cyber insurance. Historically, the market's response to cybersecurity certifications has been lukewarm, but there is a shift towards utilizing credible, respected frameworks in insurance solutions. HITRUST certifications, such as the R2 certification, now play a crucial role in demonstrating an organization's efforts to mitigate risk and are instrumental in securing favorable insurance terms.Griffin further discusses the multifaceted stakeholders involved in procuring cyber insurance within organizations. He talks about the need for simplifying cyber risk management for different organizational roles, particularly the non-technical insurance buyers. Griffin emphasizes making the insurance process less intimidating by leveraging compliance and cybersecurity measures already in place.Ryan Griffin underscores McGill Partners' mission to create a mature and sustainable risk pool, making cyber insurance predictable and reliable for their clients. The collaboration with HITRUST showcases a tangible effort towards improving trust and efficiency in the cyber insurance market. With accurate, trustworthy data, McGill Partners is dedicated to reducing insurance barriers and ensuring organizations are well-prepared to meet their cyber risk management needs.Learn more about McGill and Partners: https://itspm.ag/mcgill-and-partners-o89wNote: This story contains promotional content. Learn more.Guest: Ryan Griffin, Partner, McGill and PartnersOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanpgriffin/ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from McGill and Partners: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/mcgill-and-partnersVideo Podcast: Introduction to HITRUST’s Cyber Insurance Facility: https://itspm.ag/hitrusp5x6Learn more and catch more stories from HITRUST: https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/hitrustLearn more about 7 Minutes on ITSPmagazine Short Brand Story Podcasts: https://www.itspmagazine.com/purchase-programsNewsletter Archive: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/tune-into-the-latest-podcasts-7109347022809309184/Business Newsletter Signup: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-business-updates-sign-upAre you interested in telling your story?https://www.itspmagazine.com/telling-your-story

Guest: Mikko Hypponen, Chief Research Officer (CRO) at WithSecure [@WithSecure]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/hypponen/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/mikkoHosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesDuring the AISA CyberCon 2024 in Melbourne, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli sat down with Mikko Hypponen to discuss the irreversible nature of technology, the challenges it presents, and its impact on society. The discussion focused not on the event itself but on broader issues and ideas that shape our relationship with technological innovation.The Irreversible Nature of InnovationMikko emphasized that once a technology is invented, it cannot be uninvented. Strong encryption was one of his key examples: it secures communication for individuals and organizations, yet it is also used by criminals to evade detection. This duality underscores the reality that every innovation carries benefits and drawbacks. Mikko noted, “Even if we wanted to get rid of strong encryption, it’s not possible. Criminals would still use it.”The conversation also touched on artificial intelligence. Mikko highlighted how innovations build on past advancements. Decades of progress in digitizing information, developing the internet, and creating cloud infrastructure have made today’s AI capabilities possible. He reflected on how large technological revolutions often take longer than anticipated to develop but eventually surpass expectations in scope.Technology as a Double-Edged SwordThe group explored societal challenges posed by technology, such as the impact of social media on youth and ethical questions around ransomware. Mikko pointed to the breach of the Vastamo psychotherapy center in Finland, where hackers stole sensitive patient records and demanded ransoms from both the clinic and its patients. He argued that, in some cases, paying the ransom might result in less harm, even though it contradicts the principle of not funding criminal activity.Marco raised the issue of preparing young people for social media, comparing it to teaching a child to drive before handing over car keys. The discussion emphasized the importance of gradually introducing tools and systems while fostering understanding of their risks and responsibilities.Building on the PastMarco noted how foundational technologies, like the internet, enable further innovations. Mikko agreed, citing how AI’s rapid rise was made possible by decades of previous work. He stressed that each technological leap requires the groundwork laid by earlier developments, creating platforms for new ideas to flourish.The group also discussed the limitations of regulation. For example, cryptocurrencies, built on mathematical principles, cannot be fundamentally altered by laws. Instead, regulation can only address interactions between real-world currencies and blockchain systems. Mikko observed, “Math doesn’t care about your laws and regulations.”Closing ThoughtsThe conversation underscored that innovation is inherently a trade-off. Every advancement brings both opportunities and challenges, and society must navigate these complexities thoughtfully. Mikko highlighted that while the benefits of technologies like encryption, AI, and the internet are significant, they also create new risks.Sean, Marco, and Mikko’s discussion emphasized the importance of understanding and adapting to technological change. While we can’t control the pace of innovation, we can shape how it integrates into our lives and institutions. This ongoing dialogue remains essential as society continues to grapple with the implications of progress.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Leanne Ngo, Associate Professor, La Trobe UniversityOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leanne-ngo-86979042/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesDuring AISA Cyber Con 2024 in Melbourne, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli sat down with Dr. Leanne Ngo to discuss cyber resilience, community impact, and the role of culture in cybersecurity. Their conversation explored the intersection of technology, education, and human connection in the pursuit of a safer and more secure society.Dr. Ngo shared her perspective on resilience, highlighting its evolving definition. While digital tools increase opportunities for connection, she emphasized that face-to-face interaction remains vital, especially for vulnerable communities. Her work in promoting cybersecurity awareness involves building trust and understanding among diverse groups, tailoring approaches to their unique needs and cultural contexts.The discussion turned to the importance of culture in cybersecurity, with Dr. Ngo describing it as a gradual process of change driven by action and integration into everyday life. She stressed that cyber awareness—often focused on knowledge—must evolve into behavioral transformation, where secure practices become second nature both at work and in personal lives. This requires understanding the subcultures within organizations and communities and adapting strategies to resonate with their specific dynamics.Sean also brought up the concept of belief as a cornerstone for driving cultural change. Dr. Ngo agreed, emphasizing that confidence and a growth mindset are essential in fostering resilience. Drawing on her experience as a mentor and educator, she described how instilling belief in individuals’ capacity to contribute to a secure society empowers them to take ownership of their role in cybersecurity.The conversation explored practical ways to bridge the gap between technical solutions and human-centered approaches. Dr. Ngo highlighted her work with the Australian government’s "Stay Safe, Act Now" campaign, which focuses on localizing cybersecurity education. By adapting materials to the values and practices of various communities—such as the South Sudanese and Cambodian populations—her initiatives create relatable and impactful messaging that goes beyond surface-level translations.Education and workforce development also emerged as key themes. Dr. Ngo underscored the importance of short, targeted training programs, like micro-credentials, in addressing the growing skills gap in cybersecurity. Such programs offer accessible pathways for individuals from all backgrounds to contribute meaningfully to the industry, supporting Australia's ambition to be the most cyber-resilient country by 2030.Closing the discussion, Dr. Ngo reinforced that cybersecurity is fundamentally about people. By fostering empathy, understanding, and a collaborative spirit, society can build resilience not just through technology but through the collective effort of individuals who care deeply about protecting one another. This belief in human potential left an enduring impression, inspiring attendees to think beyond traditional approaches and embrace the human element at the core of cybersecurity.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Abbas Kudrati, Asia’s SMC Regional Chief Security, Risk, Compliance Advisor, Microsoft [@Microsoft]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/akudrati/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/askudratiHosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesDuring the On Location series at AISA Cyber Con 2024 in Melbourne, a significant conversation unfolded between Sean Martin, Marco Ciappelli, and Abbas Kudrati about key cybersecurity themes and strategies relevant to the Asia-Pacific region.Abbas Kudrati, a seasoned cybersecurity professional and cloud advocate, shared insights into the state of cybersecurity in the region. He highlighted that ransomware remains one of the top threats, particularly in Asia and Australia. This persistent issue underscores the importance of robust data governance and access control. Abbas emphasized that organizations must establish strong security foundations, including data classification and access management, to prepare for the complexities introduced by AI. Without these measures, companies risk exposing sensitive information when leveraging generative AI solutions.The discussion also touched on data sovereignty, a critical topic for governments and defense organizations in Australia. Abbas noted the growing number of localized data centers built by major cloud providers to meet sovereignty requirements. While private sector organizations tend to be less stringent about data location, government entities require data to remain onshore. Frameworks like IRAP and Essential Eight are instrumental in ensuring compliance and guiding organizations in implementing consistent security practices.Zero Trust emerged as a transformative concept post-pandemic. According to Abbas, it simplified cybersecurity by enabling secure remote work and encouraging organizations to embrace cloud solutions. He contrasted this with the rise of generative AI, which has introduced both opportunities and challenges. AI's potential to streamline processes, such as analyzing security alerts and automating vulnerability management, is undeniable. However, its unbounded nature demands new strategies, including employee education on prompt engineering and responsible AI use.Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli explored how AI can revolutionize operations. Abbas pointed out that AI tools like security copilots are making cybersecurity more accessible, allowing analysts to query systems in natural language and accelerating incident response. He stressed the importance of using AI defensively to match the speed and sophistication of modern attackers, noting that attackers are increasingly leveraging AI for malicious activities.The conversation concluded with a forward-looking perspective on AI’s role in shaping cybersecurity and the importance of maintaining agility and preparedness in the face of evolving threats. This dynamic exchange provided a comprehensive view of the challenges and advancements influencing cybersecurity in the Asia-Pacific region today.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Ambassador Brendan Dowling, Ambassador for Cyber Affairs and Critical Technology, DFATOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendan-dowling-7812b4261/AT AU Cyber Con | https://canberra2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/brendan-dowlingHosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesThis conversation with Brendan Dowling gave us a glimpse into the strategies, challenges, and collaborations shaping Australia’s digital future—and reminded us all that the cyber frontier is not just a technical battlefield but a deeply human one.The Role of a Cyber AmbassadorDowling began by discussing the unique responsibilities of a Cyber Ambassador, a role that integrates cybersecurity into foreign policy at the highest levels. He emphasized how this position, once viewed as an innovative experiment, has become a strategic necessity for national security. As cyber threats grow increasingly complex and borderless, cyber diplomacy has emerged as a critical tool for fostering stability and trust on the global stage.Strengthening Global CollaborationDuring the discussion, Dowling highlighted the collaborative nature of Australia’s cybersecurity efforts. He explained how cooperation within government agencies and partnerships with international allies are key to staying ahead of emerging threats. These relationships enable critical information-sharing, strategic alignment, and unified responses to incidents, underscoring the interconnectedness of today’s digital ecosystem.Navigating AI and Ethical ChallengesThe conversation turned to artificial intelligence and its growing role in society. Dowling addressed the ethical considerations of AI development and deployment, stressing the importance of balancing innovation with responsibility. He described Australia’s approach to advocating for ethical design and policy frameworks that protect privacy and human rights while maximizing AI’s benefits.Building Resilience in Critical InfrastructureCritical infrastructure was another focal point of the discussion. Dowling acknowledged the increasing complexity of protecting vital systems, from industrial control processes to supply chains. He emphasized resilience—not only in preventing attacks but in responding swiftly and effectively when incidents occur. This approach ensures that essential services, such as energy and manufacturing, can continue to operate even under pressure.Cultural Contexts in CybersecurityDowling also reflected on the role of cultural differences in shaping cybersecurity strategies. He shared experiences from his international work, where addressing issues like online safety and disinformation often requires sensitivity to local norms and values. Tailoring cybersecurity approaches to diverse cultural contexts, he noted, is vital for fostering trust and collaboration across regions.Conclusion:As the conversation concluded, Dowling reaffirmed the need for continued cooperation, innovation, and cultural understanding in tackling global cyber challenges. Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli expressed their gratitude, leaving listeners with a clear message: cybersecurity is not just a technical issue—it’s a global, ethical, and deeply human challenge that requires collective effort.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesAustralia's global opportunity and responsibility: shaping a more secure region and a safer digital world (Session): https://canberra2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/australias-global-opportunity-and-responsibility-shaping-a-more-secure-region-and-a-safer-digital-worldLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager / Sr Lecturer, AusCERT / UQOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivano-bongiovanni-cybersecurity-management/At AU Cyber Con | https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/ivano-bongiovanni-ibtppHosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesThis AISA Cyber Con 2024 On Location podcast episode recorded in Melbourne spotlights critical discussions led by Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager for AUSCERT and Senior Lecturer in Cybersecurity at the University of Queensland. The dialogue centers on pivotal issues shaping organizational approaches to cybersecurity, from decision-making factors to data governance and regulatory influences.Bongiovanni discusses his research on decision-making in cybersecurity, conducted across six large organizations. By interviewing professionals at operational, tactical, and strategic levels, the study examines the multifaceted factors driving decisions, such as configuring security systems or choosing cyber insurance. The research identifies four primary influence levels: industry, organizational, team, and individual. Key drivers include regulations at the industry level, organizational culture, and access to collaborative professional forums. These insights aim to provide decision-makers with a reflective framework to ensure comprehensive and informed choices.Another prominent focus is data governance. Bongiovanni emphasizes its role as both a foundation for robust cybersecurity and a potential avenue for organizational value creation. He highlights the challenges organizations face in mapping, managing, and securing their data. While traditionally viewed through a lens of loss prevention, he argues that effective data governance can unlock operational efficiencies and new business opportunities. This aligns with a broader industry shift to link cybersecurity investments to strategic value creation, rather than purely protective measures.The episode also touches on evolving regulatory landscapes. Bongiovanni outlines the increasing scrutiny on board members and CISOs (Chief Information Security Officers) regarding cybersecurity accountability. While Australia is still catching up with global trends, parallels are drawn to the U.S., where regulations like the SEC’s proposed cyber disclosures link leadership liability to organizational cybersecurity practices. In Australia, existing duties of care under the Corporations Act are becoming focal points for regulatory expectations.Information-sharing frameworks, such as ISACs (Information Sharing and Analysis Centers), also feature in the discussion. Bongiovanni underscores their importance in fostering collaboration, particularly in sectors like higher education and healthcare. He notes the ongoing cultural shift encouraging organizations to share threat intelligence securely, which is essential for collective resilience.Through Bongiovanni’s contributions, this episode highlights both the challenges and opportunities in cybersecurity decision-making, emphasizing a nuanced understanding of regulatory, cultural, and technical dynamics.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesFuture is now: Cautious reflections and bold predictions on cyber security in the years to come (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-FsEVnuge9uHow do we make decisions in cybersecurity? Operational, tactical, and strategic decision-making in the age of AI (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-BdOGZjahUeThe executive playbook: Elevate your cyber security through data governance (Workshop): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/workshops/workshop-rxAAQPTLUJLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Daisy Wong, Head of Security Awareness, MedibankOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/daisywong127/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesKicking off the conversation, Marco noted the absence of his co-host Sean, whose focus often leans technical. This opened the door for a deeper exploration into the human and operational side of cybersecurity, an area Daisy Wong is uniquely equipped to discuss.Daisy’s career journey, from earning a marketing degree to becoming Medibank’s Head of Security Awareness, is rooted in understanding human behavior. Her hands-on experience with phishing emails and time spent in a pen-testing team revealed how critical culture and communication are to effective cybersecurity.The Power of Communication and Culture in CybersecurityDaisy highlighted how her ability to simplify complex technical language became the cornerstone of her work in cybersecurity awareness. She emphasized that soft skills, like communication, are just as essential as technical know-how in navigating today’s cyber challenges.Drawing cultural parallels, Daisy shared analogies from her cultural heritage, like the tradition of removing shoes before entering a home, and compared them to cybersecurity practices. Marco added an Italian twist, pointing to customs like cheek-kissing as a metaphor for ingrained behaviors. Together, they underscored how fostering a security-first mindset mirrors cultural conditioning—it requires intentionality, consistency, and collective effort.Breaking Barriers and Building BridgesOne of the key takeaways from the discussion was the need to break down the misconception that cybersecurity is solely a technical field. Daisy argued for creating environments where employees feel safe reporting security concerns, regardless of their technical background.She shared strategies for fostering collaboration, like simple yet impactful initiatives during Cyber Awareness Month. These efforts, such as wearing branded T-shirts, can make security a shared responsibility and encourage open communication across teams.Staying Ahead in an Evolving Threat LandscapeDaisy also spoke about how cyber threats are evolving, particularly with the rise of generative AI. Traditional warning signs, like spelling mistakes in phishing emails, are being replaced with far more sophisticated tactics. She emphasized the need for organizations to stay adaptable and for individuals to remain vigilant.While AI offers tools to identify risks, Daisy and Marco agreed that personal accountability and fundamental awareness remain irreplaceable in ensuring robust security practices.In this lively episode of On Location with Marco Ciappelli, Daisy Wong spotlighted the indispensable role of human behavior, culture, and communication in cybersecurity. Her insights remind us that while technology evolves, the human element remains at the heart of effective cyber defense.Cybersecurity isn’t just about systems and software—it’s about people. And as threats become more sophisticated, so must our strategies, blending technical tools with cultural awareness to create a resilient and adaptable defense____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Sian John, Chief Technology Officer, NCC GroupOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/sian-john/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesDuring the recent AISA Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne, notable figures Sean Martin and Sian John engaged in a compelling conversation about emerging trends and significant topics within the cyber industry. The discussion covered a range of subjects from the importance of availability in operational technology (OT) security to the environmental implications of artificial intelligence (AI) and analytics. Sean Martin noted the communal focus of the conference, highlighting how initiatives driven by members of the industry, like those led by the AISA Perth chapter (as noted by Sian John), contribute significantly to the cybersecurity community.Sian John MBE provided an in-depth perspective on the global regulatory landscape, pointing out how digital disruption is driving an increase in regulations. She emphasized that privacy regulations now affect more people worldwide than ever before. John observes that while some regions might roll back regulations, the overall trend is increasing around regulatory scrutiny.Another key topic was the carbon impact of AI and analytics. Sian John pointed out the substantial environmental cost associated with training large language models, referencing research by PwC and Microsoft showcasing the significant carbon footprint involved. She argued for the need to integrate sustainability into technological advancements, coining it 'green by design.'The conversation also touched on the vital importance of OT security in the context of achieving net-zero carbon emissions and advancing renewable technology. John pointed out that while OT security has been a topic of discussion for some time, the urgency is now heightened as regulatory focus intensifies and renewable energy projects increase. When it comes to triggers that drive action, finance could win out over regulation in this case.The dialogue also explored the broader implications of security, extending beyond the traditional realms to incorporate business resilience. Martin stressed the necessity for organizations to adopt a risk-aware approach that encompasses both cyber and business risks. He posits that mature organizations, which effectively integrate resilience into their operations, are more adept at navigating regulatory changes and emerging threats.Finally, the cost of security and operational efficiency was discussed. Both speakers agreed that in a world with rising power costs, the drive towards efficient, sustainable practices is also economically motivated. This underscores the intersection of cost, regulation, and sustainability in today's business strategies. As the conversation drew to a close, the future-oriented outlook shared by both speakers reflected a pragmatic approach to the complexities of modern cybersecurity, emphasizing efficiency, regulatory compliance, and sustainability.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf

Guest: Jinan Budge, Vice President, Principal Analyst serving Security & Risk professionals, ForresterOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jinan-budge-2898132/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesThe Australian Cyber Conference Melbourne 2024 is a dynamic hub of innovation, bringing together top cybersecurity professionals and thought leaders to tackle the industry’s most pressing challenges. On this On Location Recording Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli have a  conversation with Jinan Budge, Vice President at Forrester Research, focusing on the vital role of human-centered security in today’s evolving landscape.Building a Human-Centered Cybersecurity CultureOne of the central themes of the discussion was the shift from traditional security awareness programs to human risk management. Jinan Budge emphasized the need to move beyond treating people as liabilities and instead design security practices that align with individual behaviors and motivations. This evolution toward human-centered cybersecurity is essential to addressing the unique risks posed by human behavior while fostering a culture of adaptability and trust.Collaboration Between Enterprises and VendorsThe podcast highlighted the shared responsibility between enterprises and vendors to advance security practices. Enterprises must embrace adaptive security solutions tailored to their workforce, while vendors have a pivotal role in driving innovation and educating the market. This partnership is key to creating flexible, effective solutions that meet the needs of diverse organizations, from startups to global enterprises.Understanding the Human Element in Data BreachesBudge introduced a framework she calls the “wheel of human element breaches,” which categorizes risks such as social engineering, human error, and insider threats. This comprehensive approach pushes the conversation beyond the common narrative of phishing attacks, encouraging organizations to adopt holistic strategies that address the root causes of human-driven vulnerabilities.Education and Continuous LearningMarco Ciappelli and Jinan Budge underscored the importance of integrating cybersecurity education into early learning environments. Instilling digital safety habits at a young age helps build an instinctive understanding of cybersecurity, preparing future generations for the increasingly digital workplace. This foundation ensures smoother transitions into organizational cultures where cybersecurity is second nature.ConclusionThe discussions at the Australian Cyber Conference Melbourne 2024 illuminated the industry’s growing focus on human-centered strategies and collaboration between enterprises and vendors. These efforts underscore the importance of proactively addressing human risks and integrating cybersecurity education into every level of society. Events like this continue to shape the future, offering invaluable insights and inspiration for those dedicated to advancing the field.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf