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Legal Talk Network On the Road covers the latest conferences, bar meetings, industry events, and trade shows. Recorded live from the conference room floor, our hosts interview bar presidents, committee and section chairs, and other leaders to offer an exclusive look at the biggest events in legal, as well as what is on the horizon for those who practice law.
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The 2025 Legal Trends Report is here—fresh with the latest insights into genAI, billing strategies, marketing tactics, client experience, and so much more. Adriana Linares and Ernie “The Attorney” Svenson sit down with Joshua Lenon, Lawyer in Residence at Clio, to gain a deeper perspective on the major findings in this year’s report. They discuss statistical shifts in legal practice data and consider both the inefficiencies and new possibilities revealed for lawyers and law firms.
Clio’s full 2025 report is available now—completely free for all attorneys:
Legal Trends Report | Data-Driven Insights for Law Firms | Clio
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Listen in for insider tips on Clio’s newest products for law firms everywhere. Kim Bennett chats with Michelle Dunlea about new Clio offerings for intelligent legal workflows with integrated AI through Clio Work, Clio Library, and much more. Michelle shares insights into practical use cases for these new tools to increase productivity and profitability for law firms of all sizes.
Michelle Dunlea is Vice President of Product at Clio, leading the innovation and development of Clio’s portfolio of products to meet the evolving needs of legal professionals.
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Clio Work
Clio Grow
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Fidu
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AI in legal should allow lawyers to do better work for clients and create more accessible legal services, but it can be difficult for attorneys to wrap their heads around how and why this technology can change things for the better in their law firms. At ClioCon 2025, Gyi Tsakalakis sat down with Ed Walters to discuss strategies for embracing AI that reflect the care and wisdom attorneys must use as they integrate this revolutionary technology into legal practice.
Later, they also discuss the latest offerings from Clio, including new potential for better legal work through the Clio Work product powered by AI assistant Vincent and the Clio Library.
Ed Walters is the Chief Strategy Officer of vLex and the co-founder of Fastcase.
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What gets measured gets improved. In this On the Road episode, Bryan Billig, VP of Customer Education at Assembly Software, breaks down the most important data points law firms should be tracking—and the ones they shouldn’t stress over. From intake sources and case inventory to staff productivity and marketing ROI, Bryan explains how to turn firm data into actionable insights. Learn how consistent data entry, smart reporting, and a culture of measurement can reveal bottlenecks, boost efficiency, and strengthen your bottom line.
Bryan Billig is Vice President of Customer Education at Assembly Software.
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Finding fulfillment in your legal career goes beyond technical skills. In this On the Road episode, Chad Aboud, Chief Commercial Officer at Good Lawyer and keynote speaker at the 2025 Legal Up Virtual Conference, shares how attorneys can uncover their natural gifts, align them with meaningful goals, and identify the environments where they thrive. Drawing from his own journey from big law to in-house roles to his current position, Chad outlines three core pillars that help lawyers design careers that feel purposeful, energizing, and impactful. Whether you’re just starting out or seeking a reset, discover practical steps to “job craft” a path that brings out your best.
Chad Aboud is Chief Commercial Officer at Good Lawyer.
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Even experienced attorneys can stumble when it comes to ethics. In this On the Road episode, Joe Scott introduces Jordan Turk, Director of Education and Attorney Development at Smokeball, who breaks down the ten most common ethics mistakes lawyers make—and how to avoid them. From lapses in diligence and communication to mishandling client funds, failing to return files, and advertising pitfalls, Jordan offers practical strategies and real-world examples to help attorneys safeguard their practice and reputation.
Jordan Turk is the Director of Education and Attorney Development at Smokeball.
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Video is no longer optional. It’s essential. In this special episode of On the Road, attorney, content creator, and video consultant Temi Siyanbade shares how legal professionals can harness video to expand their reach, build authority, and attract aligned opportunities. She introduces her “READY” framework, guiding lawyers through practical steps to reframe visibility, establish a clear message, assemble simple gear, draft with direction, and most importantly— say yes to showing up. From building client trust to positioning yourself as a leader, discover why visibility through video isn’t vanity, but a bold move toward the future of law.
Temi Siyanbade is an attorney, content creator, and video consultant for legal professionals.
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Hosted by Michael Semanchik, For the Innocent exposes the shocking reality of wrongful convictions through raw, first-person stories from the exonerated. Season 3 returns September 9th featuring powerful accounts from Amanda Knox, JJ Velasquez, Bruce Lisker— three exonerees whose names have become synonymous with injustice— and more.
Through their voices, uncover how the justice system failed them, what it took to win back their freedom, and the lifelong impact of being branded guilty while innocent. Plus, hear legal and criminal experts break down the systemic flaws from false confessions and eyewitness misidentifications to flawed forensic science and corrupt police officers. This season uncovers the truth behind America’s most haunting wrongful convictions.
Season One and Two are now available.
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Wealth Counsel’s robust estate planning drafting software has united with LEAP’s sleek automations to create a powerful end-to-end solution for estate planning and administration. Dan Lear talks with Ari Bulmash to discuss the combination of these technologies, along with other examples of merging tools in the legal technology sphere. They also look ahead to consider the implications of developments in AI and legal tech for attorneys and the future practice of law.
Ari Bulmash is Director of Estate Planning and Administration at LEAP Legal Software US.
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Dan Lear talks with Jordan Turk of Smokeball about her career and how she moved on from her work as an attorney to get involved in legal tech companies. Jordan offers realistic tips for lawyers on how to be creative in your career path and venture into new arenas. Later, they chat about Jordan’s many CLE class offerings for lawyers and which topics are currently top of mind, including AI, fee agreements, cross-examinations, and much more.
Jordan Turk is Director of Education and Attorney Development at Smokeball.
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Case management software’s AI and automations will continue to become more essential in lawyers’ everyday practice, but attorneys should still maintain a human touch to ensure high quality in their work. Dan Lear talks with Jim Garrett about his ideology and approach to AI tools and how to apply them in effective ways in your law firm. Later, if you're feeling very out of the loop on AI’s uses in legal, Dan and Jim share tips for becoming AI-literate in manageable ways.
Jim Garrett is Chief Technology Officer at Assembly Software, a legal profession provider of innovative case management software.
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If the post-conference blues are taking hold, fear not! InfoTrack’s Legal Up conference is right around the corner with plenty to look forward to. Lisa Kirkman welcomes Alex Braun of InfoTrack to discuss Legal Up 2025, the largest FREE virtual conference available for legal professionals. The conference strives to be people-centric, offering sessions for individuals with diverse life experiences in a wide variety of practice areas. If you’re looking to enhance your career, gain new insights, and network with peers, register now! Legal Up 2025 takes place April 23-24.
Learn more: Legal Up 2025
Alex Braun is Product Marketing Manager at InfoTrack US.
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Lawyers know they need to think about processes and efficiency in their practice, but it’s not always easy to map your workflows when you’ve got so much else on your plate as a busy attorney. Dan Lear welcomes Lauren Murphy to learn how she helps law firms automate workflows to create reliable consistencies in their processes. Implementing automation helps firms streamline everyday tasks, discover solutions to pain points, prevent missed details, and boost growth.
Lauren Murphy is Vice President of Product Market Strategy at ProfitSolv.
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Boosting efficiency starts with basic tools your law firm probably already has! But, if you’re not engaging with your tools effectively, your firm may very well be falling behind the competition. Niki Black and Stephanie Everett talk with Dan Lear about their session on enhancing law firm workflows and client experience with simple, innovative technology. Embracing tools for scheduling, finances, communications, and more improves your firm’s productivity, draws in new clients, and helps you do your best work.
Nicole Black is an attorney, author and journalist, and serves as the principal legal insight strategist at MyCase (AffiniPay). She is the nationally-recognized author of “Cloud Computing for Lawyers” and co-authored “Social Media for Lawyers: The Next Frontier”.
Stephanie Everett is CEO and a Law Firm Business Coach at Lawyerist and serves as Affinity Consulting Group’s Chief Growth Officer. She is a co-author of Lawyerist's book, “The Small Firm Roadmap”.
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Not all used law firm computers have to end up in a landfill! PCs for People can take your retired computers, securely delete old data, and refurbish them for low income households. Zack Glaser talks with Loren Williams about PCs for People’s mission to provide technology access to those in need. They discuss the processes involved in ensuring data security in their operation and explain how your law firm can donate to this eco-friendly, community-serving program at facilities all over the country.
Learn more at www.pcsforpeople.org.
Loren Williams is Regional Account Manager at PCs for People, a nonprofit social enterprise that specializes in secure and environmentally friendly IT recycling.
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When it comes to your law firm’s finances, you need to ensure that your practices are efficient, confidential, and compliant. Karolina Sikorska and Lydia Malone welcome Peggy Gruenke of CPN Legal to talk through the benefits of expert accounting and bookkeeping for law firms. Peggy shares her passion for helping attorneys build better businesses and how CPN leverages Clio’s systems to create a seamless experience for law firms.
Peggy Gruenke is co-founder of Cincinnati-based CPN Legal, which provides accounting and bookkeeping services to law firms, including Clio Grow and Manage setup and workflow design.
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Naturally, it is essential for a legal tech business like Clio to be in compliance with the laws and regulations that govern the attorneys they serve. So, how do they ensure that their platform can do what it needs to do for their clients? Laurence Colletti sits down with Niamh Pollak to learn how Clio navigates compliance across a huge number of geographic areas and unique practice area needs. They discuss Clio’s efforts to help lawyers transform and grow their practices with tools that meet the changing needs of modern law firms.
Niamh Pollak is Vice President of Legal at Clio.
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Setting a clear vision for your law firm can be challenging for many attorneys. Lawyers are highly educated and intelligent professionals, but they may not have the business knowledge to maximize their success. Dan Lear welcomes Mark Britton and Alex Shipillo to hear about their session on practical business strategies for modern, competitive law firms. They talk about developing fundamental values, identifying key performance indicators, effective collaboration, and other operational principles for transforming your legal practice.
Mark Britton is the founder of the legal marketplace, Avvo.com.
Alex Shipillo is the Vice President of Growth Marketing at Clio.
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Are current tech regulations adequately keeping pace with rapid changes in the area of technology? Working together, what can lawyers and regulators do to move forward ethically—always with access to justice in mind? Speakers Jayne Reardon, Chris Bentley, and Phil Brown share highlights from their discussion on the current landscape of this area, with a particular focus on the justice gap. They share their ideology on improving legal service delivery with technology and encourage fellow legal professionals to be innovators and advocates for leveraging technology in the fight for greater access to justice.
Jayne R. Reardon is a Partner and Deputy General Counsel at FisherBroyles LLP, a distributed global law firm.
Chris Bentley is the Managing Director of the Legal Innovation Zone and the Law Practice Program, both housed at Toronto Metropolitan University.
Phil Brown is the Acting Director of Practice Supports and Resources at the Law Society of Ontario.
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Differentiating your law firm in a competitive market is essential for success. Dan Lear talks with session speakers Bob Simon, Rob Dickson, and Jenny Dingus about highlights from their panel geared toward midsize and large law firms. In the new age of AI, they discuss the latest implementations for legal software (including Clio Grow), genAI tools, automation, marketing, and more, helping firms understand how to adapt to changing trends.
Robert Simon is a trial lawyer and founder of the Justice Team and Justice HQ.
Robert Dickson serves as the Managing Partner of Dickson Frohlich Phillips Burgess, PLLC, one of the fastest-growing law firms in the Pacific Northwest.
Jenny Dingus is the Senior Vice President of Global Sales at Clio.
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