Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of OpsCast, hosted by Michael Hartmann and powered by MarketingOps.com, we’re joined by Ellie Cary, Senior Demand Generation Manager at StarTree. Ellie shares her experience navigating marketing performance challenges, including what happens when teams hit MQL goals but still face cuts, and why ROI visibility has become critical for MOps leaders. Ellie discusses the limitations of attribution and reporting, how over-engineered ...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of OpsCast, hosted by Michael Hartmann and powered by MarketingOps.com, we’re joined by Pradeep Manivannan, Martech Consultant at Academy Sports & Outdoors. Pradeep brings extensive experience from roles at eBay, Salesforce, and Nordstrom, offering a unique perspective on connecting data, building journey-based experiences, and aligning marketing operations across channels. Pradeep explains how to map customer journeys effe...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of Opscast, Michael Hartmann and Naomi Liu are joined by Karen Kranack, Director of Applied AI Strategy and Experience, to explore the intersection of AI, brand strategy, and trust. Karen shares her insights on how AI is transforming marketing and operations, while emphasizing the importance of building and maintaining trust in this rapidly evolving field. We dive into key considerations for marketing professionals as they navi...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of OpsCast, hosted by Michael Hartmann and powered by MarketingOps.com, we are joined by Evan Kubicek, founder of Grow Rogue. Evan brings 15 years of experience in marketing operations and shares insights on what he calls the foundational operations gap, a critical area that many early-stage companies overlook as they scale. Evan explains why addressing foundational processes and systems early on is essential to avoid building ...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com, powered by The MO Pros, Michael Hartmann speaks with Ahmed Datoo, CEO and co-founder of Allgood and a self-described recovering CMO. Ahmed reflects on his time leading marketing teams and shares a candid perspective on why CMOs struggle with attribution, budget allocation for MarketingOps, and the ongoing pressure to justify impact across creative, analytical, and strategic dimensions. The conve...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com, powered by The MO Pros, hosts Michael Hartmann, Mike Rizzo, and Naomi Liu speak with Dean de la Peña, VP of Identity, Data Strategy, and SaaS at Resonate. Dean discusses the role of predictive intelligence in marketing and explains how brands can utilize more comprehensive data signals to enhance audience targeting and personalization. He also outlines the importance of identity resolution and d...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com (powered by The MO Pros), hosts Michael Hartmann, Mike Rizzo, and Naomi Liu delve into one of the most discussed shifts in B2B marketing and revenue operations: the evolving roles of Marketing Qualified Leads (MQLs) and Marketing Qualified Accounts (MQAs). In this episode, you’ll learn: Why the traditional MQL model may be falling short and where MQAs step in.How to realign marketing and sales ar...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In this episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com, powered by The MO Pros, host Michael Hartmann is joined by co-hosts Mike Rizzo and Naomi Liu to explore the role of community within the Marketing Operations profession. What does community look like for Marketing Ops professionals? Why is it more than just networking? And how do different experiences transform what people need from a professional community? To answer these questions, four inspi...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, we talk with Kyle Priest (former CMO, CRO, COO, and President at multiple SaaS firms and agencies) and returning guest Eric Hollebone (President & COO at Demand Lab) to discuss what it really takes for marketing to have a voice at the leadership table. Together, they explore how alignment between marketing, sales, and RevOps creates not only better stories but better business results—and how marketers can shift their mi...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, we talk with seasoned B2B marketing leader Pratibha Jain, who has spent nearly two decades driving demand, growth, and operational excellence across multiple industries. From cloud computing to HR tech, she’s seen—and measured—it all. Together, they unpack how to bridge gaps between marketing, sales, and operations to deliver measurable business impact. Tune in to hear: Why alignment between Marketing Ops, RevOps, and...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, we talk with Carissa McCall, Director of Revenue Operations at Liquibase, to tackle one of the most common challenges in marketing and revenue operations: how to balance strategic projects with the unrelenting pull of daily fires and ad hoc requests. Carissa shares a candid and insightful look into her approach to building a sustainable capacity model, prioritization frameworks, and time management practices that empower he...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On todays episode, we down with Andy Caron, President of Revenue Pulse, to explore the unexpected intersections of curiosity, attribution, psychology, and the marketing operations profession. Andy shares her non-linear journey from costume design and publishing to marketing ops leadership, revealing how seemingly unrelated experiences laid the foundation for a successful career in MarTech and consulting. We unpack the role of curiosity and "ha...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, we sit down with lead scoring consultant Lucas Winter to explore a refreshing, data-first perspective on building lead scoring models—one that challenges the conventional wisdom and AI hype alike. With storytelling flair and practical insights, Lucas discusses how marketers can uncover true buying intent and dramatically improve sales efficiency. Tune in to hear: "Moneyball" Meets Marketing Ops: Lucas applies the Mone...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, we are joined by Janelle Amos, founder and chief strategist at Elevate Growth, to explore how demand generation and marketing/revenue operations teams can thrive through better collaboration, mutual understanding, and strategic alignment. With a rich background in revenue marketing, advising, and podcasting, Janelle brings powerful perspective and practical tips on fostering cross-functional trust, communication, and shared...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, hosts Michael Hartmann, Naomi Liu, and Mike Rizzo come together for a candid midyear conversation about everything happening in the MO Pros community and the broader Marketing Ops landscape. From membership model updates and upcoming events to fresh research and evolving roles, this chat covers a ton of ground. Whether you're a longtime member or just tuning in, this is your go-to catch-up on where things stand in 2025 and ...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, we talk with Ahmad Moore, founder of Pressure Marketing, to unpack his unconventional but deeply inspiring journey into marketing operations. From IT help desk roots to sales leadership and now running his own MOps-focused agency, Ahad shares how leaning into empathy, technical curiosity, and a hunger for alignment helped shape his path. ✨ Tune in to hear: Why marketing ops is “IT with better branding” — and why that matter...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On today's episode, Mike Rizzo talks with Martin Pietrzak, founder and president of Pinch Marketing, to unpack what Google and others have called “the messy middle” of today’s buyer’s journey. Gone are the days of the simple, linear sales funnel. Instead, buyers loop through endless cycles of exploration, evaluation, and self-education before they ever talk to sales — if they do at all. Martin shares how marketing ops pros can embrace this new...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! In today's episode, we talk with Irwin Hipsman, founder of Repititos, to explore the often-overlooked world of customer marketing and the critical role of customer contact data. Irwin shares findings from his recent research report on the state of customer contact databases, revealing why so many organizations struggle with poor data quality and how it impacts customer communications, renewals, and crisis response. Together, they dive in...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! On todays episode, we talk with Rick Collins, Vice President of Demand Generation at ConnectWise, to explore his unconventional yet inspiring journey from IT to marketing operations and ultimately into executive marketing leadership. Rick shares how he transitioned from managing systems to driving demand, the pivotal career moments that shaped his path, and the leadership lessons he’s learned along the way. Whether you're early in your marketi...
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! The rise of AI tools has dramatically changed the landscape of email marketing and sales outreach, creating both exciting opportunities and significant risks. As Mustafa Saeed, co-founder and CEO of Luella, explains in this eye-opening conversation, many revenue teams are now "scared shitless" about how their reps might abuse these powerful new technologies. When AI-powered automation tools are implemented without proper guardrails, organizat...