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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com

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The Browns quarterback room was headed for change already this season, but Deshaun Watson’s setback, which GM Andrew Berry announced on Monday, only reinforces the idea that the room will look completely different in 2025. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk quarterbacks on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by answering a question about how the Browns just now found out about Watson’s setback before they discuss all the ways the Browns could decide to attack the position this offseason. They also talk about Berry’s draft history and whether he can be trusted to get this draft right. They even get into Baker Mayfield leading Tampa Bay to the playoffs and why he was able to do it. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson suffered a setback in his recovery from his ruptured Achilles and, regardless of what the team’s plans were for him before this, it feels like this is a significant moment in his future with the team. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Watson’s future following this revelation from GM Andrew Berry’s end-of-season press conference. Does this change anything for the Browns moving forward? What will happen with Watson now? Then they get into what Berry said about running back Nick Chubb and if it’s possible he might not be back next season. Is there a price and a role for him that could keep him in a Browns uniform? Lastly, they talk Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and the mystery surrounding his status for next season. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns are seeking a new identity and the pieces are in place for them to find it after two big events on Sunday. First, they fired offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, opening the door for them to return to a familiar identity while also trying to find someone who can help them remake their offense and quarterback room this offseason. The other development is they landed the No. 2 pick in the draft after the Patriots beat the Bills on Sunday. This sets up the opportunity to either pick a quarterback or take someone who can help their quarterback succeed. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recap the entire day in Berea on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about potentially going back to a familiar scheme and if they should before they talk about the approach at quarterback and if they have to take one at No. 2. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns will start Bailey Zappe on Saturday afternoon against the Ravens in the final game of the season. Dorian Thompson-Robinson is also expected to play in the game. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the Browns' decision to start Zappe and what they expect from him. They also talk about the jostling for draft position and where the Browns stand with one game left. Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Are the Ravens any different from the first time these teams played? What can the Browns do to try slowing down Lamar Jackson? Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns could start either Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe on Saturday against the Ravens, and head coach Kevin Stefanski left the door open to play both in the team's season finale at M&T Bank Stadium. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the quarterback decision and if it matters. Then they talk about wide receiver Cedric Tillman going on injured reserve and how it adds another layer of difficulty to building the roster for next season. They even try to name all 39 quarterbacks who have started for the Browns since 1999. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at the film from Sunday's loss to the Dolphins. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns restructured Deshaun Watson’s contract once again on Friday, opening up a future exit strategy from the $230 million fully guaranteed contract they gave him in 2022. It also means he’s sticking around for at least another season. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the potential of Watson playing for the Browns on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss why it’s not a crazy thought to think that he couldn’t end up back on the field in a Browns uniform and not just disappear quietly into the night. They also talk about the Browns draft plans and the state of the roster as the season comes to a close. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns lost their home finale of the 2024 season on Sunday, bowing to the Miami Dolphins, 20-3, at Huntington Bank Field. The Browns fell to 3-13 and will wrap up their 2024 campaign next Sunday in Baltimore. That means the Browns draft position improved and they could find themselves in a position to draft a new quarterback. In this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down dig into how the Browns should approach things if they do end up landing a Top 3 pick in the draft. Is it quarterback or bust? Is there a reason to pass on a quarterback if one is available? What does it mean that they have stumbled into a potential franchise-altering pick all of a sudden? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns return home for their final home game of the season, hosting the Miami Dolphins, who might be fighting for their playoff lives when they arrive — depending on what happens on Saturday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about left guard Joel Bitonio’s comments about his future and what he’s considering as he thinks about retiring or coming back after this season. Then they talk about the Dolphins and what they’re bringing to Cleveland on Sunday. Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Is Miami’s offense as dangerous as it was a year ago? How does the Browns' defense match up? What makes Miami’s defense successful? Lance also makes his pick for the game. Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It’s a Christmas Day edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, so we’re putting some of the Browns talk aside and we’re talking Christmas. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by going over some of their favorite Christmas things. They talk about their favorite movies, favorite songs, favorite tradition, favorite aesthetic and their Christmas hot takes. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at what he saw on the film when he studied the Browns' 24-6 loss to the Bengals. Then Lance and Dan do a draft of Christmas movies, coming up with their favorites and must watch movies.  Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns came into this season with high expectations and, instead, are going to leave it with a high draft pick. It has raised questions about the state of the roster and what they need to do this offseason to fix everything that went wrong. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe take the topic head-on during Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by talking about Dorian Thompson-Robinson and why Kevin Stefanski is starting him again. Then they dive into how they would approach this offseason. Is tanking the right move? Do they need a complete teardown of the roster to build it back up? Can they be title contenders next season? Is a soft reset more appropriate? They discuss it all. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns lost to the Bengals on Sunday, 24-6, but Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are more focused on what pass rusher Myles Garrett had to say on Friday and what he added to those comments on Sunday, even after he passed the 100 career sack mark. That’s where they start their postgame Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast. Are they surprised fans are siding more with Garrett after he voiced his displeasure? What does it say about the approval rating of the organization that they are so readily siding with Garrett? What does that all mean as far as the potential of postseason changes and if it could spur change? They also spend a little time on the loss, including the play of quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns are on to Cincinnati this week, traveling south to face the Bengals for the second time this season. Cincinnati is clinging to faint playoff hopes and the Browns hope to dash them with an upset on Sunday. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-11 Browns try to play spoiler in another AFC North matchup. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What is allowing Joe Burrow to have so much success this season? How can the Browns slow the Bengals passing attack? What about that shaky Bengals defense? Lance also makes his pick for the game. Finally, Ashley joins Mary Kay and Dan to wrap up the podcast with their picks for Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns will be in the quarterback market this offseason and we’re still waiting for the full market to take shape, but one domino fell this week when Atlanta benched Kirk Cousins in favor of rookie Michael Penix Jr. Cousins has a history with Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski, so should there be at least some interest in facilitating a reunion between the two? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Dorian Thompson-Robinson taking over as Browns starter but then they pivot to Cousins. Is Cousins done or can the Browns revive him? Is he too old for them to look at as a starter for next season? What factors do they need to consider on their roster next year and beyond? Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns are making the switch to quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson, benching Jameis Winston after he threw three more interceptions on Sunday in a loss to the Chiefs. Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock start Wednesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision to switch to Thompson-Robinson and what to expect from the second-year signal caller as he takes over for Winston. Then Lance Reisland joins the pod to talk about the switch and what he saw when he watched the film of the loss to the Chiefs. Lance and Dan talk about the play of Jerry Jeudy, the run game, the defense and more. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns and head coach Kevin Stefanski will make a quarterback decision later this week, either sticking with Jameis Winston or replacing him with Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision and whether there’s a legitimate case for sticking with Winston as the starter after he threw three more interceptions on Sunday. They also get into the future of Nick Chubb after he suffered another season-ending injury against the Chiefs and if the Browns should bring him back. And they talk about Mary Kay’s report over the weekend that Deshaun Watson will be back with the Browns next season. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns fell to 3-11 on Sunday with their 21-7 loss to the Chiefs, who are now 13-1 and still hold the No. 1 playoff seed in the AFC. Now the Browns face a decision at quarterback after head coach Kevin Stefanski benched Jameis Winston in favor of Dorian Thompson-Robinson in the fourth quarter. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down all the machinations of a potential quarterback change in their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also discuss another season-ending injury for running back Nick Chubb and where they go from here with him and do a vibe check after a brutal football game all around on Sunday. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns are out of the playoff chase but they can still play spoiler the rest of the way, something they will try to do Sunday against the Chiefs, who come to Huntington Bank Field with a 12-1 record and a two-game lead over the Bills for the No. 1 seed in the AFC. First, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to Browns owner Jimmy Haslam offering his support to GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski. Could that change between now and the end of the season? Will there be other changes? They they transition into their normal preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-10 Browns try to upset the two-time defending Super Bowl champions. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. How are the Chiefs winning all these close games? How good is the Chiefs defense? Outside of Patrick Mahomes, what is the most worrisome thing about their offense? Lance also makes his pick for the game. Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns are hosting Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field and it’s a reminder about the 2017 draft. The Browns, of course, picked Myles Garrett No. 1 overall and he’s on his way to the Hall of Fame but what if they had drafted Mahomes? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the vibes around the team before they pivot to Mahomes. Of all the teams that passed on Mahomes, the Browns came out the best as far as the player they picked, but what if they had picked him. Would he still become the player we know now? What lesson can the Browns learn from that draft and the Chiefs' pursuit of Mahomes and what the Browns didn’t see that year that Kansas City did. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns are preparing to host the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday and it has Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe thinking about all kinds of things. They get into all of it on the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, starting with what they expect from Jameis Winston the rest of the way as the Browns starter. Then Ashley makes the case for why it matters if Taylor Swift will be in attendance at Huntington Bank Field or not on Sunday before Mary Kay and Dan talk about Deshaun Watson's rehab and his future with the Browns, if there even is one. Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on the tape from the Browns 27-14 loss to the Steelers on Sunday in Pittsburgh before he and Dan talk about their favorite pizza places in the Akron and Cleveland areas. Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Browns were officially eliminated from the playoffs on Sunday in their 27-14 loss to the Steelers and it made some wonder if they might decide to start looking at some younger players, including backup quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson. That’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the Tuesday Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, featuring questions from our Football Insider subscribers. Should the Browns hand things over to Thompson-Robinson and, if not, why? Are Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry safe and could things change over the last month of the season? Would Baker Mayfield have been able to be the player he is in Tampa Bay if he stayed with the Browns? They cover all that ground in the latest edition of the podcast. Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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