In this episode, writer/philosopher Savriel Dillingh speaks to Joost and Johan from Terzij de Horde and Kimothy and Gijs from Teardrinker - both performing at the Terzij de Horde release show on December 6th at TivoliVredenburg.This episode focuses on making metal/hardcore in times of collapse, and with a specific focus on using the intensity of these genres as a call to arms. The discussion is lively and dives into topics like the roles of masculinity, joy, anger, religion and activism in loud music. How do we understand the power and limitations of making music for a better world? What are the tensions between being expressive versus being strategic about societal change?Teardrinker will perform alongside Terzij de Horde at their vinyl release show, December 6th at TivoliVredenburg. Get your ticket at: https://www.tivolivedenburg.nl/agenda/54467034/terzij-de-horde-06-12-2025Host: Savriel DillinghGuests: Terzij de Horde & TeardrinkerArt by Christian Degn, design by Mirko Meerwaldt