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Today’s case takes us to Mason City, Iowa. It's July 25, 1993, and like most school-aged kids, summer is the reward after being stuck in a classroom for nine months. Six-year-old Amber Duncan was no different. After an afternoon of playing on a Slip 'n Slide with her best friend, Brittney, Amber headed home around 3 PM, still wet from a day of fun in the water. As the little girl waved goodbye to her best friend, no one could have known it would be the last time she'd be seen. But Amber wasn’t the only one to go missing. What followed were years of agonizing questions and desperate searches. This is one of the most disturbing cases I've ever covered, and the man at the center of it all is a real-life Walter White. Join Cam and Jen as we discuss ‘Kingpin: Dustin Honken’ on Our True Crime Podcast episode. Listener Discretion of by the Edward October of @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our executive producer Nico @theinkypawprintSources:https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrNOWYmPKFmVggc5DAPxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzMEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1721871526/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.desmoinesregister.com%2fin-depth%2fnews%2flocal%2fcolumnists%2fcourtney-crowder%2f2020%2f07%2f12%2fdustin-honken-execution-trail-crime-put-iowan-death-row-drugs%2f5403810002%2f/RK=2/RS=HhKSf7aq8OWHRitbTAwQtEiqyZ4-https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/gangsters-americas-most-evil/4755644071207856112/seasons/3/episodes/dustin-honken-episode-2/57b0b5d6-dea2-30e7-bec2-b7d4dfce899fhttps://www.ajc.com/news/local/opinion-maybe-wife-killer-fred-tokars-got-fate-worse-than-death/PbgkmWIwbkkvFTQoNczcSK/https://casetext.com/case/honken-v-united-states-4https://malefactorsregister.com/wp/1024/https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/07/16/us/ap-us-federal-execution-meth-kingpin.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20191207201717/https://www.kimt.com/content/news/Judge-temporarily-stops-execution-of-north-Iowa-mass-murderer-Dustin-Honken-565288091.htmlhttps://apnews.com/article/shootings-iowa-ap-top-news-in-state-wire-terre-haute-824b3ba56e1be497e98100b9e7b91420https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/https://openjurist.org/184/f3d/961/united-states-of-america-v-dustin-lee-honkenhttp://www.cncpunishment.com/forums/showthread.php?4741-Dustin-Lee-Honken-Federal-Execution-July-17-2020https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/fred-tokars-lawyer-who-set-murder-his-wife-dead/RZ0wVVjemrUPMQKaF8ntdK/https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrNOWYmPKFmVggc5DAPxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzMEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1721871526/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.desmoinesregister.com%2fin-depth%2fnews%2flocal%2fcolumnists%2fcourtney-crowder%2f2020%2f07%2f12%2fdustin-honken-execution-trail-crime-put-iowan-death-row-drugs%2f5403810002%2f/RK=2/RS=HhKSf7aq8OWHRitbTAwQtEiqyZ4-https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrNOWYmPKFmVggc4jAPxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzIEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1721871526/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.desmoinesregister.com%2fstory%2fnews%2fcrime-and-courts%2f2019%2f07%2f25%2fdustin-lee-honken-federal-execution-angela-johson-federal-death-penalty-iowa-murders-timeline%2f1826709001%2f/RK=2/RS=YtsWsQgcDI48elvf.BKm54sHlu0-https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-iand-3_01-cr-03046/pdf/USCOURTS-iand-3_01-cr-03046-1.pdfhttps://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrFGjrYPaFmkc8bhzMPxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzcEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1721871960/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.nytimes.com%2f2020%2f07%2f17%2fus%2fdustin-honken-federal-execution.html/RK=2/RS=fX6jqJdCbcKXgN1_WwAJd1PWlH8-https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/columnists/courtney-crowder/2020/07/17/dustin-honken-execution-iowa-man-executed-federal-prison-terre-haute-indiana-methamphetamine-murder/5456933002/https://www.desmoinesregister.com/in-depth/news/local/columnists/courtney-crowder/2020/07/12/dustin-honken-execution-trail-crime-put-iowan-death-row-drugs/5403810002/https://www.desmoinesregister.com/in-depth/news/local/columnists/courtney-crowder/2020/07/12/dustin-honken-execution-trail-crime-put-iowan-death-row-drugs/5403810002/

On a warm, partly cloudy night in Vidor,(ViE Dur) Texas, a newspaper boy, up early for his route, noticed that a black 1991 Mercury sedan was pitched forward in the ditch just off Interstate 10. The ditch was located between West Bolivar and the freeway access road. He immediately called the police to report the vehicle and that he was pretty sure there was a body in the front seat. When the police arrived on the scene at West Bolivar and I-10, they immediately saw that there was a body of a woman sitting behind the steering wheel of the car. Her body was upright, back against the seat, and her head was turned toward the right, slightly nestled against the headrest. Her feet were pulled back toward the seat, and she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt. When officers called out, “Ma’am?” she did not respond. They checked for a pulse and found that she was dead. The woman’s purse and ID were sitting upright on the car's floorboard, but the police already knew who she was. Kathy Page was the wife of Steve Page, whom Detective Ray Mosely had known for most of his life. This murder inspired the Oscar-winning movie Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, which Starred Frances McDormand, Woody Harrelson, Sam Rockwell, and Peter Dinklage.Join Jen and Cam as they discuss "Behind the Billboards: The Murder of Kathy Page."If you have any information on the murder of Kathy Page, please call 1-800-252-TIPS to contact Texas Crime Stoppers, or you can submit a tip to Crime Stoppers online at crimestoppers.com. All tips are anonymous.Thank you to the listener who requested this episode.Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintIf you have any information on the murder of Kathy Page, please call 1-800-252-TIPS to contact Texas Crime Stoppers, or you can submit a tip to Crime Stoppers online at crimestoppers.com. All tips are anonymous.Sources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmnWxIqTN2Y&ab_channel=BBCNewshttps://www.southernfriedtruecrime.com/10-the-murder-of-kathy-pagehttps://unsolved.com/gallery/kathy-page/https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/tx-court-of-appeals/1406707.html (You honestly don't need any other source.)https://www.nbc4i.com/news/the-real-story-behind-three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri/https://www.newspapers.com/image/1001703865/?match=1&terms=Kathy%20Pagehttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156228571/monica_nicole-pagehttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22467735/dorothy_ann_fultonhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156039670/lucille_katherine_pagehttps://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Kathy_Pagehttps://people.com/crime/real-life-three-billboards-inspired-texas-murder-case/https://www.memorialofvidor.com/obituaries/dorothy-fultonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Billboards_Outside_Ebbing,_Missouri

Today, we are headed to Riverdale, Georgia, on August 2, 2004, where the Fayetteville Sheriff’s office gets a call from a 16-year-old named Sara Polk, who informs them that there had been a murder or two, to be exact, and proceeds to give them the address of the location where the killing had occurred. Det Bruce Jordan takes the call and arrives on the scene to find two people savagely murdered. The first victim, 74-year-old Carl Collier,  was located in the kitchen, which had blood spatter everywhere. Walking through to discover the next victim, investigators see a small bloody barefoot print on the floor. The print would lead them to the basement stairs. Detectives make their way down the stairs, where they see the second victim, 73-year-old Sarah Collier, at the bottom of the staircase. The scene was bloody and brutal. It was clear that the perpetrator was violent and skilled in murder. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled  ‘All I Want To Do Is Kill: The Collier Murders'As always our listener discretion by our bestie @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our best executive producer Nico @theinkypawprintSources:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teens-plead-guilty-to-stabbing/https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/2021/s21a0871.htmlhttps://www.amazon.com/Want-Kill-Pinnacle-True-Crime/dp/0786018615https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/young/teen_killers/index.htmlhttps://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/killer-couple-murderous-lesbian-teens-holly-harvey-sandra-ketchumhttps://www.vanceholmes.com/court/trial_harvey.htmlhttps://www.gpb.org/news/2020/03/09/investigation-discovery-channels-twisted-love-investigates-georgia-murdershttps://accesswdun.com/article/2005/4/147573https://archive.thecitizen.com/archive/main/archive-050415/pc-09_mother.htmlhttps://accesswdun.com/article/2004/8/163417https://www.wtoc.com/story/2234202/preliminary-hearing-in-teen-double-murder/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4193880/How-girl-15-stabbed-grandparents-death-drugs.htmlhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt1531239/plotsummary/https://www.nydailynews.com/2017/02/04/devil-child-slaughters-her-grandparents-steals-their-car-to-pick-up-more-pot-cocaine/

Greg stared at his phone and wondered why Joanna, his girlfriend and flatmate, wasn’t answering his calls. Greg had spent the weekend with his family in Sheffield, U.K., which was about four hours north of Bristol, where he shared the apartment with Joanna. Maybe she was just busy. It was, after all, the weekend before Christmas.  But still, it wasn’t like her to not reply to him at all. Could her phone be dead? If it was, it had been dead all weekend because she hadn’t responded to his calls or texts since before 8:00 p.m. on Friday.“Joanna?” he called out as he entered. But he got no answer. Her purse was there. The keys were there, and a bottle of cider sat on the counter. It was half full. Where was she? He called her cell phone again, calling her name and looking in the closets. He stopped. Her cell phone was ringing from inside the flat. “Joanna!?” he called out again. Any hope he had that Joanna was somewhere in the apartment was dashed as he realized the phone was ringing inside her coat pocket. The temperatures had not reached above freezing the whole weekend. Now he was really worried; Joanna wouldn't have left without her coat. Now he was really worried. With a sinking feeling in his gut, he called the police.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "The Only Murderer In The Building: Joanna Yeates."Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joanna_Yeateshttps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/28/joanna-yeates-case-vincent-tabakhttps://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/tv/senseless-murder-joanna-yeates-how-22641648https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16063153/who-joanna-yeates-how-did-she-die/https://youtu.be/_HMIM8ScKt0si=AHLbnVKa5dHE7befhttps://youtu.be/LXMixkwtjYgsi=ZBgI3VsBsel_Glm4https://youtu.be/K1My3HfOuVo?si=9EzfIq43taP5wpKlhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/754124703/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/723901797/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/723910638/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/754102963/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22%20murderhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/754182143/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22%20murderhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/754182311/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22%20murder

Today's case takes us to Marietta, Georgia. The book centered on this case was one of the first true crime books I had read, and it has always stuck with me. The book Secrets Never Lie: The Death of Sara Tokars- A Southern Tragedy of Money, Murder, and Innocence Betrayed is by R. Robin McDonald. It is November 29, 1992, and Thanksgiving weekend has just ended. 39-year-old Sara has been visiting with her parents and her sisters in Bradenton, Florida, for the holiday weekend, but it was time for her and her two boys, 6-year-old Ricky and 4-year-old Mike load up the Toyota SUV to make the 9-hour trek back home to Marietta Georgia, an affluent suburb of Atlanta. After the three had departed, Sara’s husband Fred called the parent's home to inquire if they were on the road yet. Fred, who had been there earlier, had departed earlier as he had a meeting with a client that he couldn’t miss. Sara’s father, Dr John Ambrusko, had answered the call from Fred and told him they they had just departed. It was almost 10 pm when Sara and the boys pulled into her garage. Sara started to unload the car as one of the boys had fallen asleep in his car seat. As she was unloading, a strange man came out of the darkness. The man, who was carrying a sawed-off shotgun, forced Sara and little Ricky back into the car. What happened next is what nightmares are made of, what mothers fear most, and is proof that true evil exists. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “The Big Lie: The Murder of Sara Tokars.”Listener discretion by the fab Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our EP Nico @theinkypawprintSources:Secrets Never Lie: The Death of Sara Tokars- A Southern Tragedy of Money, Murder, and Innocence Betrayed is by R. Robin McDonaldhttps://www.atlantamagazine.com/great-reads/sara-tokars-murder/https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/fred-tokars-lawyer-who-set-murder-his-wife-dead/RZ0wVVjemrUPMQKaF8ntdK/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401217/https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/2020/05/13/former-attorney-fred-tokars-dies-in-prison-28-years-after-arranging-wifes-murder/https://www.ajc.com/news/local/opinion-maybe-wife-killer-fred-tokars-got-fate-worse-than-death/PbgkmWIwbkkvFTQoNczcSK/https://hmichaelharvey.medium.com/tokars-the-breaking-bad-snitch-dies-in-prison-e0dead8f0af6https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/cobb-county/friends-feel-renewed-sadness-sons-metro-atlanta-man-who-had-wife-murdered/6MIDSIC7TBCFXHCPIG55X6Q76A/https://www.frettholdandhamp.com/obituary/Michael-Tokarshttps://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/fred-tokars-who-hired-hitman-to-kill-wife-sara-tokars-dieshttps://people.com/crime/fred-tokars-mastermind-killing-wife-1992-dies-prison/

It was 1996, and all anybody could talk about in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada was the Abbotsford Killer. A few months before, a sadistic, barbaric individual had beaten two girls with a baseball bat, raped one, and thrown her body in the Vedder River.The killer taunted the police and terrorized an entire community of 108,000 people by promising that there would be more bodies. And he was still at large. People, especially women, were terrified to go anywhere.What would make somebody do something like that? What would make him taunt the police and terrorize the victim’s family? Join Cam and Jen as they discuss You're Next: The Abbotsford KillerThank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:Please go to OurTrueCrimePodcast.com for a complete list of sources. 

Former Dauphin County Chief Detective Thomas Brennan’s phone rings between 3 am and 4 am from a responding officer requesting assistance on a crime scene. When the detective arrives, he notices a car pulled close to a ditch. Brennen, who received training at the FBI Behavioral Science Unit during his tenure with the state police, knew immediately what he was dealing with when he arrived at the Conrail crime scene. After Brennan asks the officer for details, the officer explains that a Conrail train security guard had stumbled onto a man attacking a woman. The man was startled and he ran off. Thankfully the victim was injured but alive so he called for police and waited with her until help arrived.  Detective Brennan noted that the vehicle’s trunk was open and inside was what many would call a “kit” such as rope, and duct tape, as in things to help someone kill or at least bind another person. Outside the car on the ground were plastic mats, seemingly to cover the ground inside the ditch. It was now clear to Brennan that this man had planned to kill his victim, put her in that ditch, and drive away. What was also clear to the detective was that this was not this man’s first time killing someone, he had done it before and he knew what he was doing. Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss ‘Steelton Serial Killer: Joe Miller.’As always, the listener discretion is by our bestie Edward @octoberpodVHSJust like our music is by our bestie Nico @theinkypawprintThis episode is sponsored by the amazing sleepcreme.comIf you don’t experience better sleep, they will refund your money. So what do you have to lose except another night of amazing rest? Order your bottle at sleepcreme.com That is sleepcreme.comYou will love it. Sources:https://www.cor.pa.gov/About%20Us/1989-SCI-Camp-Hill-Riot/Documents/01-oral%20histories%20-%20transcripts/ORAL%20HISTORY%20--%201989%20Camp%20Hill%20Riot%20-%20Joe%20Miller.pdfhttps://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/04/the_grisly_history_of_joseph_m.htmlhttp://inmatelocator.cor.pa.gov/#/https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrilzEabGdmhi0nxk4PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNiZjEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZANEMjY4MjBZSF9DXzEEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1718082714/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fcriminaldiscoursepodcast.com%2fjoseph-miller%2f/RK=2/RS=REGPWwbZxnb8gEVcjUqHncqYYX4-https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/contests/convicted-serial-killer-joseph-miller-charged-in-1997-cold-case-murder/521-c6f1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Daniel_Millerhttps://local21news.com/news/local/new-murder-charge-filed-against-most-prolific-killer-in-dauphin-co-historyhttps://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/local/20080725_Pa__court_backs_life_in_prison_for_killer.htmlThe compulsion to rape and kill: Inside Steelton serial killer Joseph Miller’s mindStory by John Luciew | jluciew@pennlive.comhttps://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/04/the_grisly_history_of_joseph_m.html

In the summer of 1991, Krystal Naab was sixteen years old. She lived in a mobile home in Ramsey, Illinois, with her mother and two siblings. She spent time with her boyfriend, whom she had plans to marry, and hung out with her friends. Everyone described Krystal as a genuinely sweet person.July 23rd was shaping up to be a scorcher, and by 7:30 a.m., it was already warm and humid. Since one of Krystal's chores was to mow the lawn, her brother Curtis woke her up before he left for work. He reminded her that it would be hot and that she needed to cut the grass while it was still cool outside. Curtis then headed out the door to do landscaping work for his uncle, unaware of the horror he would later return to.When Curtis arrived home at 4 p.m., he found Kyrstal lying face-down on the floor in a pool of blood just inside the entrance to the trailer. She had been stabbed 81 times with a pair of scissors the family kept in a china cabinet in the living room.A small, white truck was seen by neighbors in Krystal's driveway that day from 10 a.m. to3 p.m., so police thought she must have known her killer. When they asked Curtis if he knew anyone with that type of truck, he immediately came up with a name.Thank you to YA-MAN USA for sponsoring this week's episode. To experience the future of beauty, you can visit yamanusa.com and use code TCP for a 20% discount.Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://casetext.com/case/heaton-v-gaetz-3https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Krystal_Naabhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Heaton_casehttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/104419438/krystal-lyn-naabhttps://casetext.com/case/people-v-heaton-4https://www.newspapers.com/image/997895931/?match=1&terms=Krystal%20Naabhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/79698617/?match=1&terms=Krystal%20Naabhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/79801795/?match=1&terms=Krystal%20Naabhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/997884459/?match=1&terms=Krystal%20Naabhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/80161002/?match=1&terms=%22Krystal%20Naab%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/80160972/?match=1&terms=%22Krystal%20Naab%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/80158341/?match=1&terms=%22Krystal%20Naab%22https://www.themidwestcrimefiles.com/post/dna-does-not-lie-the-krystal-naab-storyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsey,_Illinoishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_witnesshttps://www.newspapers.com/image/309528138/?match=1&terms=Krystal%20Naabhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw8h0Wd_9KI&t=42s&ab_channel=makingatruecrimererhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMhs4_uR9Aghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzb6jszwABohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-rPuZ9YcrI

*Content Warning: This episode deals with domestic violence that may be disturbing to some of our listeners.If you or someone you love needs help, please call the National Domestic Abuse Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 (SAFE) or visit their website at https://www.thehotline.org/. Thank you to Jessi and Kristin for speaking with us about their friend Leanne.Leanne Davidson Beck was known for being fiercely independent, tenacious, and kind. She had a good heart, and she was loved by everybody who knew her. Leanne was a ‘go-getter,’ and her friends say she’d always be the one encouraging them to get up and do fun things instead of sitting around bored. She could always find the positive in bad situations, and she was always giggling. Leanne was an only child, so she made lots of friends throughout her life who she remained close to and treated like family. When Leanne met a man who Leanne fell in love with, her friends and family were excited for her as she would finally get what she had always wanted: a loving, happy family.  That excitement would soon turn into concern. At 3:07 am on the 29th of August 2021, Leanne’s husband made a panicked call to 911, stating that his wife had vomited and was not breathing. When paramedics arrived, they noted that Leanne’s eyes were fixed, and they were unable to locate a pulse. Despite the lifesaving efforts carried out by the officers on the scene, Leanne Davidson Beck was pronounced dead at around 3:30 am. She was just 33 years old. Join Jen and Cam on this Our True Crime Podcast Special “The Unexplained Death of Leanne Davidson Beck.”Join Justice for Leanne Beck Facebook group for information and updates. Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHSMusic is by our E.P. @theinkypawprintWritten by Fern @eoacrimeSources: https://www.azfamily.com/2023/03/09/18-months-after-her-death-family-peoria-nurse-still-looking-answers/#:~:text=PEORIA%2C%20AZ%20(3TV%2FCBS,held%20accountable%20for%20her%20death.https://ncadv.org/statistics#:~:text=1%20in%203%20women%20and,be%20considered%20%22domestic%20violence.%22&text=1%20in%207%20women%20and,injured%20by%20an%20intimate%20partner. https://ncadv.org/statistics#:~:text=1%20in%204%20women%20and,of%20sexually%20transmitted%20diseases%2C%20etc.  https://www.solacewomensaid.org/policy-campaigns/awareness-campaigns-awards/love-bombing-affection-today-abuse-tomorrow/  https://www.thehotline.org/resources/signs-of-love-bombing/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/why-bad-looks-good/202107/why-do-domestic-violence-victims-return-abusers https://www.healthline.com/health/how-long-can-you-go-without-peeing

On August 7, 1995, in Aroma Park, Illinois, 9-year-old Christopher Meyer approached his mom, Mika Moulton, asking for permission to visit the Aroma Park boat launch by the Kankakee River. Christopher, who spent his summers with his mother but resided with his father, Jim Meyer, in Walla Walla, Washington, during the school year, was eager to explore. Mika permitted him to go but set a curfew, instructing him to return home by 5 pm.  When 5 o'clock came and went, Mika began to worry. She went out to search for Christopher but was unsuccessful so she returned home to phone the police and report Christopher missing.  At the time, no one knew it but Christopher was not this person’s first victim. Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast on this episode entitled “The Murders of Tara Sue Huffman and Christopher Meyer.”Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our EP @theinkypawprintOneSkin sponsors this episode. OneSkin is the world's first skin longevity company. Focusing on the cellular aspects of aging, OneSkin keeps your skin looking and acting younger for longer.  If you want 15% off use the code OTCP when you checkout at oneskin.co. This is only for a limited time.  That’s 15% off oneskin.co with code OTCP.  After you purchase, they’ll ask you where you heard about them, support our show, and tell them we sent you.Sources:https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/buss-timothy.htmhttps://www.chicagotribune.com/1996/07/03/july-3-1996-buss-woes-stem-from-childhood-doctor-says/https://casetext.com/case/people-v-buss-4https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/comments/sgeb6r/in_1981_a_13_year_old_boy_named_timothy_buss/https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/jul/06/killer-sentenced-to-death-in-murder-of-10-year-old/https://daily-journal.com/news/local/timothy-buss-asks-shorter-prison-time/article_638f3aa8-8ed8-5bd8-ac6c-d9fe8e7c3d74.htmlhttps://www.newspapers.com/article/southern-illinoisan-tara-sue-huffman-ki/24824721/?locale=en-UShttps://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19960706&slug=2337897https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-09-03-mn-41912-story.htmlhttps://www.chicagotribune.com/1996/07/04/july-4-1996-buss-father-blames-himself-for-sons-behavior/https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/il-supreme-court/1008442.htmlhttps://medium.com/@criminalmatters/13-year-old-sexually-assaulted-killed-5-year-old-12-years-later-he-killed-again-a4597417af20

In April 2001, Jerry Heimann's son, Greg, had come to Washington State to visit his father. When his father didn't pick him up from the airport, he grew concerned. When he arrived at his father's home, and there was no answer, he broke into the house. Jerry wasn't there, and neither were most of Jerry's belongings.  As he made his way into the dining room, he found an 89-year-old grandmother, Evelyn, and an Alzheimer's patient slumped in her wheelchair. She had been left alone, starving. Greg called 911.When police asked the neighbors if they had seen Jerry, they said they hadn’t seen anyone at the residence after the live-in housekeeper and elder helper, Barbara Opel, had backed a U-Haul into Jerry’s driveway, packed it full of things from Jerry’s house, and left. Soon, police knocked on Barbara Opel's hotel room door, asking her, her children, and their friends to come down to the station to answer some questions about the whereabouts of her employer, 64-year-old Jerry Heimann. Barbara spun a story of how Jerry was dying of terminal prostate cancer, and he was just finished with this world. He’d given her all his earthly possessions, and she had no idea where he was. Nobody else talked to the police. They did not betray Barbara. But eleven-year-old Derek did. When the police asked him if he knew where Jerry was, he simply said, “Yes. He’s dead.”Join Cam and Jen as they discuss. "Mommy Dearest: The Murder of Jerry Heiman"Thank you to YA-MAN USA for sponsoring this week's episode. To experience the future of beauty, you can visit yamanusa.com and use code TCP for a 20% discount.Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/little-girl-lost/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Opelhttps://www.heraldnet.com/news/sentenced-to-50-years-in-everett-slaying-hell-get-out-after-21/https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/16566644/jerry_duane-heimannhttps://murderpedia.org/female.O/o/opel-barbara.htmhttps://www.seattleweekly.com/news/little-girl-lost/https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B01DQ3K84A/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s2 Investigation Discovery: Deadly Sins Season 2 Episode 8; Mommy's Little Killershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4xtkBOfP84&ab_channel=DanielleKirstyhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/1032029517/?match=1&terms=Barbara%20Opelhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/1047870461/?match=1&terms=Heather%20Opelhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/1048777719/?match=1&terms=Heather%20Opelhttps://ivisontrust.org.uk/child-sexual-exploitation/what-is-trauma-bonding/#:~:text=The%20term%20'trauma%20bond'%20is,bond%20is%20damaging%20to%20them.https://wainnocenceproject.org/marriam-oliver/https://www.heraldnet.com/news/a-2001-killer-then-13-will-be-released-from-prison-early/https://www.heraldnet.com/news/witness-details-teen-plot-to-kill/

In the early hours of May 14, 1983, two California Highway Patrol officers pulled over a suspected drunk driver on the San Diego Freeway in Mission Viejo, California. Instead of staying in his vehicle, the driver jumped out, pouring the contents of a beer bottle onto the road as he exited. His disheveled appearance caught the officers' attention as he approached their patrol car. The officers asked for the man’s driver’s license, and he readily admitted that he had been drinking beer, but he claimed to be sober. Sergeant Michael Howard approached the vehicle and noticed a man slumped in the passenger's seat, partially obscured by a jacket, with empty beer bottles strewn around his feet. A folding knife was visible on the driver's seat. Howard tapped on the window, but there was no response. The man was unconscious and had no shoes on. His pants were unzipped, with his genitals hanging out of his pants. The officer attempted to find a pulse, but there was none. A closer look at the man indicated that the man had been strangled. This standard DUI arrest just changed to murder, but this is far from the only murder this man would commit. Join Jen and Cam of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ as we discuss “The Scorecard Killer: Randy Kraft.”Listener discretion is by the talented @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our executive producer @theinkypawprintSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_of_Darkness_(book)https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/serial-killer/the-scorecard-killer-southern-california-man-may-have-murdered-as-many-as-67-victimshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Kraft#Conviction_and_incarcerationhttps://randykraft.com/the-victims/https://latimes.newspapers.com/article/the-los-angeles-times-randy-kraft/138310135/?locale=en-UShttps://skdb.fandom.com/wiki/KRAFT_Randy_Stevenhttps://inmagazine.ca/2022/03/queer-crime-was-serial-killer-randy-kraft-wrongly-convicted/https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/comments/15wby08/all_randy_krafts_victims_suspected_connected_and/https://www.ranker.com/list/randy-kraft-facts/christinatedescohttp://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/Kraft,%20Randy%20_spring%202007_.pdfhttps://www.foxnews.com/us/iowa-teen-identified-victim-scorecard-killer-randy-kraft-nearly-50-yearshttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1402694.htmlhttps://www.allgaylong.com/blog/randy-kraft-the-sadistic-scorecard-killer/https://bonlinetr.unionjill.org/content?c=scorecard+killer&id=12https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-11-29/scorecard-killer-victim-identified-michael-ray-schlicht-orange-county-randy-krafthttps://longbeachize.com/articles/the-disturbing-creepy-history-of-long-beachs-scorecard-killer-randy-kraft/https://www.ocregister.com/2023/11/28/after-49-years-orange-county-investigators-id-a-presumed-victim-of-serial-killer-randy-kraft/https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/serial-killer/the-scorecard-killer-southern-california-man-may-have-murdered-as-many-as-67-victimshttps://randykraft.com/

All considered twenty-five-year-old school teacher and beauty queen Irene Garza to be a “devout” Catholic. She attended daily mass at Sacred Heart Church in McAllen. There was nothing pretentious or fake about Irene, and she lived her faith. Being good to others was part of her life’s mantra. She told a friend of hers that she found strength and comfort from her daily communion, so it was only natural that she would go to confession that Saturday evening before Easter. In fact, her family said that Irene attended confession every Saturday, whether she needed to or not.Irene arrived for confession around 7:00 p.m., entered one of the confessionals, and seemingly disappeared. Five days after she went missing, on April 21st, 1960, the body of Irene Garza was found floating in the 2nd Street irrigation canal, just three miles from the Sacred Heart church where Irene was last seen. Police only had one suspect in mind for her murder. He was the last person to see Irene the night she left. In fact, he heard her last confession. His name? Father John Feit.Join Jen and Cam as they discuss "A Wolf In Priest's Clothing: Irene Garza."Thank you to YA-MAN USA for sponsoring this week's episode. To experience the future of beauty, you can visit yamanusa.com and use code TCP for a 20% discount.Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/unholy-act/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/irene-garza-murder-john-feit-former-priest-dies/https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2712047-Irene-Garza-Autopsy-Reporthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Irene_Garzahttps://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/justice/garza-cold-case-timeline/https://www.smh.com.au/world/break-in-cold-case-police-arrest-former-beauty-queens-priest-in-her-1960-killing-20160211-gmrhii.html?deviceType=texthttps://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/evidence-photos-in-the-irene-garza-murder-case/46/ https://www.dps.texas.gov/apps/coldCase/Home/Details/151https://www.podles.org/case-studies/Irene-Garza-Case-Study-page2.htmhttps://www.youtube.com/watchv=49lv3dxmJPE&ab_channel=TrueCrimeDailyhttps://www.youtube.com/watchv=Rv3zXIfcktk&ab_channel=Dr.ToddGrandehttps://www.youtube.com/watchv=xBVH5obMP10&ab_channel=48Hourshttps://www.youtube.com/watchv=Q5F0VH5Xtg&ab_channel=SouthernFriedTrueCrimehttps://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0B8Q4MGDT/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s2 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19637079/irenegarza#:~:text=Irene's%20grave%20is%20directly%20behind,main)%20entrance%20on%20Taylor%20road.https://www.newspapers.com/image/297589688/match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/639672534/match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/1023010954/match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/524696319/match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/62579186/match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/61614977/match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/758165070/?match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/374718697/?match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/300234201/?match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/297588687/?match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/297592897/?match=1&terms=Irene%20Garzahttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1FewdmV-7P7eNAkheJ8JlruYfW4nj-5_N/view https://www.cbsnews.com/news/church-officials-shielded-priest-suspected-of-murder-for-decades/https://www.podles.org/case-studies/files/Murder-of-Irene-Garza.pdf

Nancy Brophy fills her novels with romantic betrayals and murder. It’s a far cry from her quiet life in the suburbs, where she and her chef husband, Dan, are living out their golden years. But when Dan is shot dead, Nancy finds herself at the center of a murder case that could be ripped from the pages of her novels.From Wondery, this is a story about what happens when the line blurs between fiction and reality.Listen to Happily Never After: Dan & Nancy early and ad-free on Wondery+.Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts.https://wondery.app.link/HNADN-OTCP

Warning: Today's episode deals with mental health struggles. If you or someone you love need help please contact 988, where resources are available to you. On Friday, July 25, 2002, Ernie Williamson woke up to the alarm at either 6 or 6:30 AM, preparing to head to work. As he starts his day, his 6-year-old daughter, Cassandra, affectionately known as Casey, approaches him, telling him she is hungry. Ernie assures her that he'll quickly take a shower and then accompany her across the street to grab breakfast. Since Ernie and Angela had separated, the couple wanted to raise their children, Chelsea--age 12, Casey—age 6, Elizabeth—4, and little Ernie—2,  in a loving co-parenting style, Angela and the kids stay with her father at on Benton Street in Valley Park; while Ernie stays right across the street.As Ernie gets ready, he has no worries since a family friend, 24-year-old Johnny Johnson, is still asleep on the couch.  Both Angela and Ernie have known Johnson since he was a child. However, upon finishing his shower and returning upstairs for Casey, he discovers that she is nowhere to be found inside the house. Casey is missing.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Little Girl Gone: Casey Williamson.”Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHSMusic by our E.P.  @theinkypawprintSources:https://people.com/johnny-johnson-murdered-casey-williamson-executed-7569504https://fox2now.com/news/true-crime/a-2002-st-louis-area-sleepover-ends-with-kidnapping-murder/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpIwxvWyM50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMCbX7cPEzAnewspapers.comhttps://www.kansascity.com/news/state/missouri/article277306138.htmlhttps://fox2now.com/news/missouri/casey-williamsons-mother-devastated-after-convicted-killer-given-stay-of-execution/https://apnews.com/article/missouri-execution-casey-williamson-johnny-johnson-b0d87ed6e459e49cb53f9b4fa5fcd738https://nypost.com/2023/08/02/eerie-final-words-of-vampire-who-killed-6-year-old-girl/

Annie McCarrick, an American living in Ireland, left her home on March 26, 1993, and vanished into thin air. Her father, John McCarrick, said, “It’s as if somebody came along and just vacuumed her up off the planet.”  It's been thirty-one years since Annie was last seen. Many theories have been suggested and investigated in Annie’s disappearance. One is that Annie was abducted and murderedby a total stranger. And for most people, this theory seemed the most plausible for decades. The reason for that is because of the other women who have gone missing in eastern Ireland, in an area that is known as the Vanishing Triangle.Join Cam and Jen as they talk about 'Someone Knows: Annie McCarrick & The Vanishing Triangle".Thank you to YA-MAN USA for sponsoring this week's episode. To experience the future of beauty, you can visit yamanusa.com and use code TCP for a 20% discount.Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://www.amazon.com/Missing-Barry-Cummins/dp/0717183939https://www.newspapers.com/image/725159400/?terms=Annie%20McCarrick&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/913673397/?terms=Annie%20McCarrick&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/470589379/?terms=Annie%20McCarrick&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/913673929/?terms=Annie%20McCarrick&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/913673265/?terms=Annie%20McCarrick&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/472309257/?terms=Annie%20McCarrick&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/914594619/?terms=Annie%20McCarrick&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/1007818080/?terms=%22Annie%20McCarrick%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/260654830/?terms=%22Annie%20McCarrick%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/723889044/?terms=%22Annie%20McCarrick%22&match=1 https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/newsday/name/john-mccarrick-obituary?id=5147570 https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/05/13/we-are-confident-now-in-a-way-that-we-were-not-in-the-past-that-annies-case-will-be-fully-investigated-says-nancy-mccarrick/ https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/05/08/enniskerry-sightings-of-annie-mccarrick-now-deemed-unreliable-with-gardai-focused-on-dublin-4/https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/05/08/the-myth-of-irelands-vanishing-triangle/https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/bombshell-claims-annie-mccarrick-stalked-29922380https://www.garda.ie/en/crime-prevention/crimecall-on-rte/crimecall-episodes/2023/27-march-2023/murder-of-annie-mccarrick.htmlhttps://www.independent.ie/life/family/mothers-babies/never-forgotten/26497937.htmlhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/723387067/?terms=%22Fiona%20Pender%22&match=1 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1g4jzj8y1o 

Today, we are going to Harrington, Delaware, where 41-year-old Charles Holden returns home from work just after 1 am. Pulling up to his home, he notices a man lurking outside, peeking in the windows. Charles, who shares the property with his mother, left the scene to phone the police. Charles explained to the dispatcher that he feared the man was trying to break into his mother’s home and was worried since she lived alone.  Charles went back to the location to wait for the police.  Corporal Myrna Williams Kinney of the Delaware State Police arrived, walked around the house, and discovered a window on the back of the house had been shattered. Charles's heart sank as he worried about his elderly mother. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ as we discuss “The Hitchhiker: The Murder of Dorothy Donovan.”This episode is sponsored by SleepCreme.com.  Go to SleepCreme.com and order today to experience better sleep, If you don't get better sleep, they will refund your money, simple as that.As always, our listener discretion is by @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our executive producer Nico @theinkypawprintSources:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1847944/https://tt.se/media/image/sdl6DlqWhr5rbkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mSAimU3THQhttps://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Dorothy_Donovanhttps://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-272822.htmlhttps://veritycreates.medium.com/killer-hitchhiker-the-murder-of-dorothy-donovan-b6c5dfc6d359https://www.facebook.com/341180555899616/posts/in-memory-of-dorothy-donovanshe-was-born-dorothy-mae-bonney-on-may-18-1921-in-bu/2557279680956348/https://www.reddit.com/r/tipofmytongue/comments/6opxy3/tomt_hitchhiker_kills_family_member_of_the_man/

It was a cold and snow-covered morning in February 2010 when Thomas and Lynn Love decided to take the scenic route to Woodbridge, a suburb of Alexandria, Virginia. The area had recently been pummeled with snow, not once but three times that month, leaving record-breaking accumulations across the Washington, D.C. area.They drove by Prince William Forest and turned east onto Minnieville Road. The area is a sleepy suburb, with wide open roads interspersed with the occasional subdivision or neighborhood. However, large parts are still fields and woods, so the deer often play dodgeball in the traffic. So, Thomas drove more cautiously than usual. As their vehicle approached Alps Road, Thomas saw something move. He pulled over and got out of the car. When his wife realized what they were looking at, she, too, got out of the vehicle.It was a woman, half-dressed, covered in slush and snow and blood, stumbling toward them. She was scraped from the knees down, her face pitted with tiny red dots, and the whites of her eyes were reddish-purple. Shivering, she said in a hoarse whisper, “I’ve been raped and beaten. Where’s Lisa? Is she alive?” Lynn wrapped the woman in a blanket, put her in the car, turned up the heat, and then called 911.There was no way at that moment that the Loves could fully comprehend that they had just played a small part in catching a murderer, freeing a wrongfully imprisoned man from jail, and bringing closure to three families, all by saving the life of the half-frozen woman now seated in their backseat.Join Jen and Cam as they discuss "Never A Marine"Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:Complete list of sources on Our True Crime Podcast websiteArticle written by Harry Jaffe that Jen mentioned.https://www.washingtonian.com/2012/09/11/predator-in-the-ranks-inside-a-real-life-ncis-murder-case/ https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-4th-circuit/1872283.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Avila-Torrezhttps://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/jorge-avila-torrez-ex-marine-sentenced-100-years-for-murder-laura-hobbs-krystal-tobiashttps://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2018/09/19/convicted-va-killer-already-facing-death-penalty-admits-slaying-two-girls-illinois/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jztATNJWkI4&t=1005s&ab_channel=FilmRiseTrueCrimehttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serial-killer-jorge-avila-torrez-part-1/id1485570562?i=1000574610182https://www.newspapers.com/image/231654382/?terms=%22Laura%20Hobbs%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/985345195/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/968520596/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/289692678/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/289557482/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/985371463/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/989774158/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/968128861/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/989750339/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/989750457/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/837503025/?terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/270354636/terms=%22Jorge%20Torrez%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/280551681/terms=%22Amanda%20Jean%20Snell%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/241270581/terms=%22Amanda%20Jean%20Snell%22&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/241781685/terms=Osama%20Atari%20Torrez&match= https://www.newspapers.com/image/241712166/terms=Osama%20Atari%20Torrez&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/233123001/?terms=Krystal%20Tobias&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/411004539/?terms=Krystal%20Tobias&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/83669236/?terms=%22Laura%20Hobbs%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/231678431/?terms=%22Laura%20Hobbs%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/443579225/?terms=%22Laura%20Hobbs%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/598412415/ https://www.newspapers.com/image/232984854/?terms=%22Laura%20Hobbs%22&match=1 https://www.newspapers.com/image/232976432/?terms=%22Laura%20Hobbs%22 

We are headed to Indiana, near the famed Speedway where the iconic Indy races unfold. It's September 12, 2000, around 7 a.m. when a call comes into police, reporting a vehicle ablaze near Decatur Township off State Road 67. Detective Larry Sanders swiftly responds, observing the inferno and sensing its deliberate nature. Amidst the efforts to douse the flames, a chilling discovery emerges from the trunk: a charred body, its gender indiscernible, limbs bound with wire. Amidst the chaos, crucial identifiers - the car's license plate and VIN - are found, linking the vehicle to Robby Bott. Robby, a resident of Morgan County, Indiana, leaves investigators grappling with unsettling questions: Is the deceased indeed Robby Bot? How did he end up in the trunk? And, most urgently, who perpetrated this heinous act, and what drove them to such brutality?Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Natural Born Killers: Joshua Maxwell and Tessie McFarland.’This episode is sponsored by Oneskin. It’s about skin longevity, targeting the root causes of aging to help you look and feel your best at every age. Get started today with 15% off using code OTCP at oneskin.co. (it is co, not com) Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our EP @theinkypawprintSources:https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/death_row/dr_info/maxwelljoshua.htmlhttps://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/2002/02/22/brooklyn-murder-suspect-on-trial-in-texas/118393996/https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/03/11/Texas-executes-sheriffs-sergeant-killer/71481268362604/https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-indiana-man-who-murdered-2-executed-in-texas-2010mar11-story.htmlhttps://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Shootout-Suspect-Admits-Slaying-Confession-2733133.phphttps://www.upi.com/Archives/2000/10/18/Pair-wanted-in-crime-spree-arrested-in-SF-shootout/2552971841600/https://www.wthr.com/article/news/prosecutors-want-local-trial-victims-family-doesnt/531-6490bb0f-1b55-432a-84c3-d8331e1eac7chttps://www.themarshallproject.org/next-to-die/tx/nsbhpd2ohttps://thecinemaholic.com/joshua-maxwell-tessie-mcfarland/https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/ex-convict-stripper-lured-men-sex-killed-them-for-cashhttps://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-indiana-man-who-murdered-2-executed-in-texas-2010mar11-story.htmlhttps://caselaw.findlaw.com/in-court-of-appeals/1091648.htmlhttps://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Midwest-fugitives-fled-grim-histories-3051111.phphttps://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Set-to-die-today-killer-calls-his-spree-senseless-982016.php

In 2007, Carly became friends with a musician named Brandon Kane on MySpace. The two initially bonded over their love of music, and soon, Brandon regaled her with stories of growing up in the wide-open spaces of the American Southwest and traveling to other exotic places. Carly hung on to his every word. Carly soon shared with her mother that she’d “met” this awesome guy named Brandon Kane. Within 18 months, Brandon quickly became Carly’s entire world.  Unfortunately, Brandon Kane didn't exist.The ease with which one online predator was able to groom, lure, and murder fifteen-year-old Carly Ryan in Australia would not only rock the nation but would make headlines globally. It was a horrifying wake-up call. The world suddenly realized that the darling invention of social media had teeth, and it could bite.Join Jen and Cam as they discuss 'Taking the Bait: The Carly Ryan Story'If you're worried that your child is being groomed online or sexually exploited, please report it.USA call 1-800-843-5678  or go online to Cyber Tipline https://report.cybertip.org AustraliaCall Crime Stoppers at 1800 333 000 or report online at crimestoppers.com.au.UK Make a report https://www.ceop.police.uk/safety-centreor police on 101 or online at www.police.ukThank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://www.carlyryanfoundation.com/https://www.openaustralia.org.au/senate/?id=2017-06-13.185.1https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/the-ex-wife-of-carly-ryans-killer-garry-francis-newman-says-she-suffered-decades-of-abuse-at-his-hands/news-story/a44fffae2985ec53c6a21945358036b0https://youtu.be/VV43ezxdg5M?si=YwLqursVJ2Ardo3vhttps://youtu.be/1co77A5sQG0?si=wfgfABfNZDIgXFochttps://youtu.be/feSqADrsreU?si=y7Ijd-4BwUwLM2Gchttps://youtu.be/tQ7jQUEHRd0?si=_9c9EglisUADiLBrhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Carly_Ryanhttps://victimsofhomicide.fandom.com/wiki/Carly_Ryanhttps://www.smh.com.au/national/sex-predator-jailed-for-life-20100331-revm.htmlhttps://www.wikiwand.com/en/Murder_of_Carly_Ryanhttps://truecrimediva.com/carly-ryan/https://www.aph.gov.au/-/media/wopapub/senate/committee/legcon_ctte/completed_inquiries/2010-13/criminal_code_misrepresentation/report/d01.pdf?la=en&hash=133D29B0BFE5FF028A354F2857AB4FB639A8075Ahttps://www.newspapers.com/image/753739453/?terms=%22Carly%20Ryan%22%20Australia%20murder&match=1 (lots of errors in this article)https://www.azafap.org/about/https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Garry_Francis_Newmanhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/mother-of-murdered-teen-carly-ryan-still-fighting-online-predators/GKDOD2VR536THPXNZQ56HK6I2A/https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1409https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:%22chamber/hansards/f6578188-998f-424eb4ef-/0241%22#:~:text=Stephen%20Newman%20was%20charged%20with,and%20that%20was%20Carly%20Ryan