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On the 12th Nightmare Before Christmas… The Genesee River flows peacefully through Rochester today, but it still holds a dark memory from the late 1980s. Back then, it became the hunting ground of Arthur Shawcross. He had already served time for murder but was let out early, even though experts warned he was still dangerous. Soon after he arrived, a terrifying pattern emerged: people disappeared near the waterfront, only to be found later along the riverbanks, each death showing the work of a disturbed mind.  Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “Dark Waters: Arthur Shawcross.” Well, folks, we've finally made it to the end of our 8th Annual 12 Nightmares Before Christmas and the end of 2025. We're exhausted and definitely need therapy, but we wouldn't have it any other way. Thank you for spending another year with us. We’ve talked about more murders than any “normal” human should, and you’re still here, clicking play like champions. We appreciate every one of you who listens week after week. You are what keeps us going. We'll be back on January 14th, 2026, with more true crime cases. Until then, lock your doors, and keep passing those open windows! Have a safe and spectacular New Year. Love ya! Cam & Jen Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers/Music by @theinkypawprint Sources are available on ourtruecrimepodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 11th Nightmare Before Christmas... On a sunny November morning in 1971, best friends Debbie Ackerman and Maria Johnson, both just 15, set out for a day of surfing near Galveston, Texas. The two girls were inseparable—bonded by their shared love of the beach, the waves, and the promise of youth. Maria, a newcomer to Galveston, had already endured a turbulent childhood. After her parents split, she bounced between homes and schools before settling into Ball High School. Shy but friendly, she quickly found her place. She loved water skiing, dated a local ski jumper, and spent her weekends at the beach. Debbie, by contrast, was a lifelong islander, what locals called a BOI (“born on the island”). With one brown eye and one blue-green eye, she stood out immediately. She was bold, competitive, and passionate about water sports, often making the local news for her water skiing competitions. Surfing was her favorite pastime, and her friends remembered her as fun, magnetic, and endlessly outgoing. That Sunday, November 14, they planned a short trip to Houston, just over an hour’s drive away, to spend the day exploring. Since neither girl had a car, they decided to hitchhike, a common and almost carefree practice in the early 1970s. Witnesses later reported seeing them outside a Baskin-Robbins near Stewart Beach, laughing and chatting as they bought ice cream. A white van pulled up to the curb. The driver asked where they were headed. “Houston,” one of the girls said. It was his route, he told them. They climbed in. They were never seen alive again. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled: The Eleven Who Went To Heaven: Edward Bell." Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS. Executive Producer/Music by @theinkypawprint. Sources:  https://law.justia.com/cases/texas/tenth-court-of-appeals/1994/1036.html https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-daily-news-journal-1979-tx-edward-ha/37438275/ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/37438275/1979-tx-edward-harold-bell-convicted-of/ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/80125091/edward-bell/ https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/tv/2023/10/03/how-a-shirtless-matthew-mcconaughey-got-his-first-credit-on-unsolved-mysteries-in-1992/ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/5511750/the-waco-citizen/ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/82998028/ed-bell-69-exposure-to-13-year-old/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0737501/ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/80125009/edward-bell/ https://archive.today/20211228093122/https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2017/10/18/243184/investigators-think-they-know-who-killed-eleven-girls-around-galveston-in-the-1970s-2/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Harold_Bellhttps://archive.ph/20131014191511/http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Confessions-of-a-cold-blooded-killer-2187501.php#selection-4701.0-5149.1https://archive.ph/20190823045333/https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Texas-killer-s-death-leaves-unanswered-13783107.php Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 10th Nightmare Before Christmas… Palm Sunday is usually a day of hope and reflection, but in 1984,  East New York faced a horror it would never forget. Families were at home, children played, and neighbors went about their day, but inside 1080 Liberty Avenue, everything changed. Ten lives were lost in a single, shocking act of violence. The house was ordinary, the people inside were ordinary, yet by the end of the day, the community would never be the same. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “Brookly Wept: The Palm Sunday Massacre.” Thank you to our incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers/Music by @theinkypawprint   Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyf59N6MXpQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyQkGsb4W4 https://archives.law.virginia.edu/dengrove/writeup/palm-sunday-massacre https://www.newspapers.com/image/488278617/?match=1&terms=Enrique%20Bermudez https://www.newspapers.com/image/488453267/?match=1&terms=Palm%20Sunday%20massacre   https://www.newspapers.com/image/704164853/?match=1&terms=Palm%20Sunday%20massacre  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 9th Nightmare Before Christmas... On the afternoon of March 12, 2004, a quiet Fresno street exploded with panic. Twenty-five-year-old Sofina Solorio stood outside the boarded-up home where she’d once lived, screaming for Marcus Wesson to release her children. Her cousin, Ruby Ortiz, shouted beside her. Both women had grown up under Wesson’s rule. Both had borne him children. Now they wanted them back. Relatives crowded the curb, furious and ready to force their way in. Inside, Wesson’s family gathered at the windows, shouting back with a strange, fevered devotion. “Judas! Judas!” “Bow down to your master!” When Fresno police arrived, the chaos only deepened. At the center stood Marcus Wesson, fifty-seven, nearly 300 pounds, his graying dreadlocks hanging to his knees. He was eerily calm, answering questions in a soft, measured voice. Officers believed they were dealing with a tense custody dispute. Then Wesson asked for one thing: to say goodbye to the children. He closed the door behind him. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Innocence Destroyed: The Wesson Family Horror." Thank you to our fantastic team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS. Executive Producer/Music @theinkypawprint. Sources:  https://www.crimelibrary.org/noto rious_murders/family/marcus_wesson/13.html https://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/22/wesson/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-questions-in-fresno-slayings/ https://web.archive.org/web/20190827142254/https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-jun-30-me-wesson30-story.html https://abc30.com/post/marcus-wesson-mass-murder-children-killed-convicted-murderer/14518182/ https://abc7.com/archive/7540458/ https://www.amazon.com/Marcus-Wesson-Horrific-Fresnos-Murderer/dp/1703797760 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jury-gives-death-to-killer-dad/ https://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/22/wesson/ https://www.foxnews.com/politics/will-jerry-brown-commute-sentences-of-every-death-row-inmate-in-one-of-his-last-acts-as-california-governor https://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/justice-story-vampire-king-article-1.1621606 http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dad-guilty-of-killing-his-9-kids/ http://www.daily-journal.com/life/wesson-massacre-largely-forgotten/article_389f9b7f-4237-511d-a6b7-b003bddc088a.html https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/marcus-wesson-mass-murder-surviving-family-speaks-abuse/story?id=11089648 https://abc30.com/marcus-wesson-mass-murder-children-killed-convicted-murderer/14518182 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 8th Nightmare Before Christmas… Andrew Urdiales grew up in a troubled home, facing abuse that shaped a deep anger inside him. After serving in the Marines, he turned that rage outward, stalking and murdering women across California and the Midwest. For over a decade, he left a trail of victims that left police struggling to track him down. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “A Marine Without Mercy: Andrew Urdiales.” Thank you to our incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers Nico & Jesse of The Inky Pawprint Sources https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/news/2018/11/05/two-condemned-inmates-deaths-being-investigated-as-suicides/ https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=1e8a0fba-d064-4e7e-954a-ae9607be1273 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Urdiales https://murderpedia.org/male.U/u/urdiales-andrew.htm (the court transcript from his appeal is located on this page under "opinion." https://www.newspapers.com/image/664943243/?match=1&terms=Andrew%20Urdiales https://www.newspapers.com/image/503452488/?match=1&terms=Andrew%20Urdiales https://www.aetv.com/shows/i-survived-a-serial-killer/season-1/episode-1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 7th Nightmare Before Christmas... Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, is the kind of place that sells serenity. Nestled in the lush green folds of the state’s northern panhandle, its glittering lakes and cozy resorts draw tourists each summer, while locals call it the Lake City. It’s a place where doors stay unlocked, where evenings hum with crickets, and where danger feels far away. Eight miles east of town, near the Wolf Lodge campground, a small, weathered house sat back from the road—nearly hidden by the trees. In 2005, it was home to 37-year-old Mark McKenzie, his girlfriend, 40-year-old Brenda Groene, and Brenda’s three children: 13-year-old Slade, 9-year-old Dylan, and 8-year-old Shasta. The family lived their days filled with school, work, and play. Their back door was almost always unlocked. But on the night of May 15, 2005, that small gesture of safety and comfort would be the very thing that destroyed them. That night, a man named Joseph Edward Duncan, 42, slipped through the open back door. He was dressed in dark clothing, wearing black leather gloves, and carrying a shotgun. Along with the gun, he brought duct tape, zip ties, and a claw hammer. The family was asleep. Duncan knew they would be. He had been watching them for days. He’d first noticed Dylan and Shasta playing outside in their swimsuits—laughing, carefree, the way children should be. Something in his twisted mind fixated on that moment. In the quiet town of Coeur d’Alene, a single open door had invited a nightmare that would leave five lives shattered—and shadows that would never lift. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Abducted in Idaho: Groene Family Massacre." Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS Executive Producer/Music @theinkypawprint Sources:  https://rivcoda.org/community-info/news-media-archives/convicted-serial-killer-who-murdered-10-year-old-beaumont-boy-24-years-ago-dies-in-indiana https://web.archive.org/web/20110510093816/http://spokesmanreview.com/sections/duncan/?ID=258599 https://web.archive.org/web/20240616142947/https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/brother-of-molester-duncan-speaks-for-first-time/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/jul/06/duncans-history-by-age-17-he-fit-definition-of-a/#:~:text=In%201980%2C%20a%20psychological%20evaluation,definition%20of%20the%20sexual%20psychopath.%E2%80%9D https://meaww.com/who-was-joseph-edward-duncan-crimes-serial-killer-dies-idaho-groene-family-death-row-brain-cancer https://web.archive.org/web/20110510094245/http://spokesmanreview.com/sections/duncan/?ID=79500 https://www.foxnews.com/story/convicted-child-killer-joseph-duncan-gets-6-life-sentences https://web.archive.org/web/20220219180530/https://casetext.com/case/us-v-duncan-3 http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2011/07/11/08-99031.pdf https://archive.today/20120721053927/http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_cbcf5288-ac50-11e0-9115-001cc4c002e0.html https://abc7.com/archive/8015571/ https://5nchronicles.blogspot.com/2020/07/day-to-day-on-federal-death-row-for-me.html http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/oct/24/shasta-groene-wants-sex-offenders-to-spend-life-be/ https://web.archive.org/web/20110510100116/http://spokesmanreview.com/sections/duncan/?ID=154916 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 6th Nightmare Before Christmas… The Sunset Strip was famous for music, bright lights, and big stars, but in the late 1970s and early 1980s, it also became the hunting ground for Douglas Clark and Carol Bundy. They seemed like a normal couple, but behind closed doors, they were obsessed with control and murder. Together, they lured young women and committed terrible crimes that shook the city. Carol’s love for Douglas and his dark urges made them a dangerous team. Their account shows how quickly obsession can turn deadly. They brought nightmares to a place where dreams are made. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “Down at the Sunset Strip: Douglas Clark & Carol Bundy.” Thank you to Mina for the request. We have the most incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers/Music by @theinkypawprint Sources: https://www.findagrave.com/virtual-cemetery/1296233?page=1#sr-111563846 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Clark_(serial_killer) https://law.justia.com/cases/california/supreme-court/4th/3/41.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkIeADt-Ak (World's Most Evil Killers Season 5 Episode 15) https://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/bundy-carol.htm  (A ton of information on this site.) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/278664481/john-robert-murray https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106907056/carol_mary-bundy/photo https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/260609377/douglas-daniel-clark Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 5th Nightmare Before Christmas... In the summer of 2005, a North Carolina couple slipped away to their Oak Island beach house for a quiet weekend—only to find a stranger renovating their living room. Power tools hummed, drywall dust floated in the air, and the man in work boots calmly insisted the property was his. He even produced a deed, complete with signatures and a tidy paper trail. According to the stranger, he had bought the home from a North Carolina doctor, Dr. William Holbert, for the unbelievable price of $200,000, barely half its value. Holbert, he claimed, was liquidating his sick grandmother’s home in a hurry. But the story cracked quickly. Holbert and his partner, Laura Reese, had already vanished, and the cash from the fraudulent sale had funded their next home in Louisa, Kentucky. By the time investigators arrived, the couple was gone without a trace. It was far from over because wherever Holbert went next, terror followed—and the bodies stacked quietly behind him. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "The Killer Wore Flip-Flops: Wild Bill Holbert: Day 5:12 Nightmares Before Christmas". Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion is by Edward October @octoberpodVHS. Executive Producer/ Music@theinkypawprint  Sources:  https://web.archive.org/web/20100730225302/http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/20100728195827437 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-10874340 https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2017/08/15/serial-killer-wnc-native-wild-bill-sentenced-panama-5-murders/104613034/ https://www.amazon.com/Long-Live-King-Wild-Bill/dp/B09P2657C7 https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20100729/oak-island-forgery-suspect-connected-with-up-to-20-murders-in-central-america https://news.sky.com/story/american-serial-killer-william-wild-bill-holbert-and-ex-wife-jailed-in-panama-10989198 https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/american-accused-of-killing-5-to-face-panama-trial-idUSTRE67408I/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/05/william-holbert-panama-mu_n_671658.html https://nypost.com/2016/07/10/how-a-small-time-crook-became-a-ruthless-killer-with-a-passion-for-real-estate/ http://lithub.com/catching-wild-bill-and-jane-the-end-of-a-killing-spree-in-panama/# https://www.crimetraveller.org/2016/09/jolly-roger-social-club-william-holbert/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 4th Nightmare Before Christmas… On a quiet Florida night, a patrolman sees two cars pulled over. Inside one, a clean-cut man and a woman who whispers, "I'm okay." The officer drives away, unaware he's just left a victim alone with her future killer. That moment was just the beginning. Oscar Ray Bolin left a trail of terror that stretched across Florida. He seemed ordinary, friendly, unassuming, someone you’d never suspect, but his dark side hid in plain sight. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “In the Shadows: Oscar Ray Bolin.” We have the most incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers/Music by @theinkypawprint Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kvw2k42XT0 https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bolin-oscar.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Ray_Bolin https://allthatsinteresting.com/oscar-ray-bolin https://law.justia.com/cases/florida/supreme-court/2004/sc02-37-1.html https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156825804/oscar_ray-bolin https://www.newspapers.com/image/321261395/?match=1&clipping_id=182527083 Obit for Natalie Holley https://www.newspapers.com/image/321261105/?match=1&clipping_id=182527381 discovery of Natalie's body https://www.newspapers.com/image/337978474/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/337978488/?match=1&terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/323050173/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/323050378/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/337973028/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336703396/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336703435/?terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336717960/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/321153755/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/321153750/?terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336829954/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336830012/?terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336830111/?article=66114aac-0352-4e6f-87b5-71ee705b3b80&terms=%22Teri%20Lynn%20Matthews%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/321151367/?terms=%22Teri%20Lynn%20Matthews%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336704359/?terms=%22Teri%20Lynn%20Matthews%22 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156205949/natalie-blanche-holley https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34937887/stephanie_anne-collins https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156206232/teri-lynn-matthews https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/fl-supreme-court/1720993.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 3rd Nightmare Before Christmas... On the sweltering evening of July 14, 1982, a call came into the Waco Police Department that would shatter the community’s sense of safety. Two teenage boys, fishing near the shores of Lake Waco at Speegleville Park, had stumbled across a scene no one could have imagined. Beneath a tree lay a teenage boy. His hands were bound tightly behind his back, a gag shoved into his mouth, sunglasses still shielding his eyes. His chest had been punctured repeatedly. Moments later, officers discovered two more bodies scattered across the park. In that moment, Lake Waco would forever be etched in the memory of a town that had lost its innocence. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast, entitled "The Lake Waco Murders." Murders: Day 3:12 Nightmares Before Christmas". Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS. Executive Producer/Music by @theinkypawprint  Sources:  https://web.archive.org/web/20160304075726/http://www.lakewacomurders.com/html/Melendez%20Pleads%20Guilty.PDF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lake_Waco_murders https://www.kwtx.com/2022/07/13/lake-waco-murders-40-years-later-attorneys-believe-wrongfully-convicted-man-executed/ https://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/25/opinion/the-wrong-man.html?src=pm https://www.amazon.com/Careless-Whispers-Lake-Waco-Murders/dp/0671646060 https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Texas_Gavel_Awards&Template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=19539 http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1991_795370/conviction-overturned-inmate-now-seeks-a-job-deeb.html https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/the-murders-at-the-lake/ http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/3-decades-after-brutal-killings-last-defendant-10858867.php https://web.archive.org/web/20160304081445/http://www.lakewacomurders.com/html/indictments%20near%20teenagers%20deaths.PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 2nd Nightmare Before Christmas… In November 1987, Korrina Malinoski disappears without a trace, leaving her family and a quiet South Carolina town full of questions. Almost a year later, her eleven-year-old daughter, Annette Sagers, vanishes from a bus stop in Monck’s Corner. She leaves behind a short, mysterious note, but no other clues. No evidence. No witnesses. Only decades of unanswered questions.  Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “Like Mother, Like Daughter: Korrina Malinoski & Annette Sagers.” If you have any information about the disappearance of Korrina Korri Lynne Sagers Malinowski or her daughter, Annette Sagers, please contact the Berkeley County Sheriff’s Office at 803-761-7190 or 803-737-9000. We have the most incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen. Executive Producers/Music by @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theinkypawprint.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sources: https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037365115/?match=1&terms=%22Korrina%20Malinoski%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/195218856/?match=1&terms=%22Korrina%20Malinoski%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/665856682/?match=1&terms=%22Korrina%20Malinoski%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/665856682/?match=1&clipping_id=176116906 https://www.newspapers.com/image/665856683/?clipping_id=176116947 https://charleyproject.org/case/korrina-lynne-sagers-malinoski https://charleyproject.org/case/annette-deanne-sagers https://www.oxygen.com/up-and-vanished/crime-news/steven-malinoski-denies-involvement-korrina-malinoski-disappearance https://fox28savannah.com/news/local/bring-them-home-secrets-in-the-swamp-explores-the-story-of-a-missing-mother-daughter-wciv-annette-korrina-sagers https://abcnews4.com/news/local/experts-take-new-look-at-berkeley-county-cold-case-of-missing-mother-11-year-old-girl https://youtu.be/TsGgOY_4c1A?si=YrjpQlaqjDbvPPOE https://youtu.be/7JgGm_sOG3o?si=BOd5LPVJLLPNR1vj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Lowcountry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the 1st day of Nightmares Before Christmas... Nineteen-year-old Sarah Stern was a gifted artist, a young woman passionate about painting, sketching, and all things Disney. Known for her kindness, creativity, and quiet energy, she was loved by friends and family alike. Her disappearance, in December 2016, would shock the close-knit communities of Neptune City and Belmar, New Jersey. But it was who was responsible that would be the biggest shock of all. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “The Sound of Guilt: Murder of Sarah Stern”. Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS Executive Producers/Music by @theinkypawprint Sources:  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/sarah-stern-new-jersey-college-student-murder-friend-liam-mcatasney-sentence-court-guilty/1537853/ https://www.app.com/story/news/local/courts/2023/02/03/sarah-stern-death-murder-liam-mcatasney-conviction-upheld/69866758007/ https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/sarah-stern-father-testifies/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0fRXGTHbrg https://abc7chicago.com/post/jurors-hear-mans-chilling-grisly-confession-to-childhood-friends-murder/5127362/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-man-found-guilty-robbing-murdering-friend-throwing-her-n976681 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-man-found-guilty-robbing-murdering-friend-throwing-her-n976681 https://www.njcourts.gov/system/files/court-opinions/2022/a2155-19.pdf https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/nyregion/nj-liam-mcatasney-sarah-stern-missing.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1hymSRRCXU https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/liam-mcatasney-sarah-sterns-childhood-friend-trial-murder-61421935 https://abcnews.go.com/US/liam-mcatasney-sentenced-life-parole-murdering-friend-sarah/story?id=63869375 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CksZ0lxfXQ0 https://6abc.com/post/ex-classmate-gets-life-in-prison-for-sarah-stern-murder/5357392/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On a quiet summer morning in Chester, a nurse in a tracksuit opened her front door to find detectives waiting. Within minutes, Lucy Letby, the nurse parents trusted with their most fragile infants, was led away in handcuffs. To neighbors, she was the polite young woman who waved from her driveway. To friends, she was giving and kind, the kind of girl who carried spare tampons in her bag in case someone might be in need  But inside the Countess of Chester Hospital, prosecutors said, she had become something far darker: a “malevolent presence” who turned lifesaving equipment into murder weapons, leaving a trail of dead and critically injured newborns in her wake And as she climbed into the backseat, doubt lingered as to whether they had captured a killer, or condemned an innocent woman to the role of one. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Nursing Uncertainty: The Lucy Letby Case.’ Listener discretion is by @octoberpodVHS Music is by our EP @theinkypawprint Sources:  https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/20/lucy-letby-dozens-more-babies-police-believe-chester-liverpool https://books.google.com/books?id=XA0REQAAQBAJ&dq=lucy+letby+classmates&pg=PA10 https://web.archive.org/web/20240705221812/https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/R-v-Letby-Final-Judgment-20240702.pdf https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5147755/why-experts-continue-to-question-the-killer-nurse-lucy-letby-case https://books.google.com/books?id=W7rYEAAAQBAJ&dq=%22lucy+letby%22+furniture&pg=PT3 https://web.archive.org/web/20190226112746/https://www.cheshire.police.uk/news-and-appeals/news/update-on-countess-of-chester-hospital-neonatal-unit-investigation/ https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/13/nurse-lucy-letby-released-on-bail-in-chester-baby-deaths-inquiry https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/15/lucy-letby-discussed-babies-deaths-in-excited-way-inquiry-told https://web.archive.org/web/20240513112618/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-65311400 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Letby https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-65960506 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0y9673rjno https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2022-10-14/who-are-the-children-alleged-to-have-been-murdered-by-lucy-letby https://web.archive.org/web/20240513112618/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/18/what-were-lucy-letbys-possible-motives-for-murdering-babies https://people.com/where-is-lucy-letby-now-11795133 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/09/lucy-letby-serial-killer-or-miscarriage-justice-victim/ https://news.sky.com/story/lucy-letby-trial-hears-how-doctor-raised-concerns-but-was-told-not-to-make-a-fuss-12729381 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michelle MacNeill, devoted mother of eight, wife, and former beauty queen, had a life that seemed enviable. Living in Utah with her husband, Dr. Martin MacNeill, everything looked perfect on the surface, but as we all know, appearances can be deceiving. Just days after undergoing plastic surgery, Michelle was found dead in her bathtub. Her death was ruled an accident caused by prescription pain medication, but her sister and daughters were skeptical. Their suspicions would expose the carefully crafted life her husband presented to the world, showing the real darkness behind Martin MacNeill’s perfect image. Sources: Available on ourtruecrimepodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On December's Special Episode, Cam and Jen talk with Lindsay and Jenn from the podcast Corpus Delicti about a case they are passionate about. In 1994, Robin "Rocky" Myers was sentenced to death for the murder of Ludie Mae Tucker. But did he really stab Ms Tucker to death? Jenn and Lindsay discuss the troubling details surrounding Rocky's conviction and death sentence. We love Lindsay and Jenn and think you will, too! You can find their podcast Corpus Delicti on any podcast platform. Go subscribe now! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It all started on March 22, 1990, when 18-year-old Robin Mihan went missing from Cherokee Street in South St. Louis. Although Robin was only eighteen, she already had two children and was battling a drug addiction. To feed her kids and her habit she had begun working as a sex worker along Cherokee Street. On this particular night, Mihan got into a car with a stranger and would never be seen alive again. Four days later, her body was found inside two mattresses that had been tied around her and dumped along State Highway E. Then, months later, another discovery. Just after 9 a.m. on October 5, 1990, two men were cleaning up outside an apartment building near Page Avenue in St. Louis County when one of them noticed a plastic trash can sitting in the grass. A trash bag was pulled tightly over the top, secured with a wire. As they got closer, the smell hit them — the unmistakable smell of death. Thinking it was a dead animal, one of the men unwound the wire. But it wasn’t an animal. Inside the trash can was the body of a woman. Two women. Two brutal murders. Two bodies were discarded in places where someone hoped they wouldn’t be found. And someone in St. Louis was responsible. Join Jen and Cam on this Our True Crime episode as we discuss: The St. Louis Package Killer: Gary Randall Muehlberg. Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHS Music by our EP Nico, who made it into the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland. This, my friends, is a HUGE deal. We love him and are so proud of him.  @theinkypawprint Sources:  https://www.stlpr.org/show/st-louis-on-the-air/2022-09-23/how-gary-muehlberg-was-revealed-as-st-louis-package-killer https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/comments/xipagf/how_notorious_serial_killer_gary_muehlberg/ https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/serial-killer-charged-murders-four-women-30-years-package-killer/63-e63df0dc-94a0-46b8-9b87-1a511e6b48a1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA92oKiQw5g https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/accused-package-killer-gary-muehlberg-to-be-charged-in-1990-murders/meg https://www.stlpr.org/show/st-louis-on-the-air/2019-07-29/package-killer-cold-cases-remain-unsolved-nearly-3-decades-later https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gary-muehlberg-charged-package-killer-murders-4-women-1990-dna-link-prosecutors/ https://nypost.com/2022/09/20/convicted-missouri-murderer-gary-muehlberg-tied-to-package-killer-murders-of-4-women/ https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/how-the-package-serial-killer-was-finally-revealed/ https://archive.today/20230504160405/https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/investigations/gary-muehlberg-alleged-serial-killer-confessions/63-d9fd7158-5f0f-406d-832a-8903468e0fe8 https://archive.today/20230504160326/https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/accused-package-killer-gary-muehlberg-to-be-charged-in-1990-murders/ https://archive.today/20230504160447/https://www.stltoday.com/news/article_7de1adbd-d41f-5b35-b1f3-24629b4cab3a.html https://archive.today/20230401045934/https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/serial-killer-gary-muehlberg-pleads-guilty-to-first-known-slaying-39769901 https://archive.today/20220920050838/https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/serial-killer-charged-murders-four-women-30-years-package-killer/63-e63df0dc-94a0-46b8-9b87-1a511e6b48a1 https://archive.today/20230504160422/https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/how-notorious-serial-killer-gary-muehlberg-terrorized-st-louis-38526656 https://www.riverfronttimes.com/serial-killer-gary-muehlberg-probably-knows-more-than-hes-saying/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gary-muehlberg-package-killer-admits-killing-brenda-pruitt-donna-reitmeyer-1990s/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cam and Jen were invited to be on The All About Nothing Podcast. They were asked to discuss the murder of Dr Jennifer Wilson. Dr. Jennifer Lee Wilson was a beloved USC professor, a Fulbright scholar, and a passionate advocate for children’s literacy. In 2011, after turning to online dating in hopes of finding love, she met a man who initially seemed charming but soon showed troubling signs of control and obsession. As Jennifer tried to set boundaries and regain her independence, the situation escalated in ways she could never have anticipated. Thank you to Barrett of The All About Nothing Podcast. We really enjoyed talking with you! Plus, thank you for sharing this audio. If you would like to see the whole interview with Cam and Jen, head over to The All About Nothing Podcast's YouTube channel. And a huge thanks to Jesse from https://theinkypawprint.com/ for her research & writing. Sources: University of South Carolina - Wikipedia  MU alumna Jennifer Wilson killed in South Carolina | News | columbiamissourian.com   Bond denied for ex-boyfriend of murdered USC professor 'No! No! No!': Talented Fulbright scholar's awful screams as she was 'stabbed to death by former boyfriend' Aug 30, 2011 Hank Hawes Found Guilty Of Stabbing Jennifer Wilson To Death - FITSNews OCT 16, 2014 Obsessed internet dater stabbed to death university professor who had tried to end their relationship  Accused killer goes to trial in death of popular USC professor | The State  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the early 1970s, New York City was buzzing with a new, single lifestyle. But in January 1973, that freedom took a dark turn. The brutal murder of a beloved young schoolteacher named Roseann Quinn shocked everyone and made national headlines. With the recent news regarding actress Diane Keaton, who starred in the controversial film adaptation, we felt now was the time to revisit the true story that inspired it all. The sensational details of the crime were everywhere, but what you might not realize is that this case directly inspired the famous and often controversial book and movie, Looking for Mr. Goodbar. That story became a significant part of pop culture and changed the way people talked about dating and danger for years afterward. This week, Jen and Cam delve beyond the book, movie, and the rumors to explore the true story of Roseann Quinn, the infamous case that terrified a generation, and the real events behind the fictional scandal. We are grateful for our team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers Nico & Jesse of The Inky Pawprint ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theinkypawprint.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sources:  https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/71076305/johnny_wayne-wilson https://www.nytimes.com/1974/02/17/archives/entombed-the-psychiatrist-always-asked-how-do-you-feel-do-you-hear.html https://www.nakedcitystories.com/goodbarmurder.php https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Roseann_Quinn https://www.newsweek.com/2015/07/17/you-cant-kill-mr-goodbar-351119.html thoughtco.com/the-murder-of-roseann-quinn-972681. https://www.bassettbranches.org/tng/getperson.php?personID=I25920&tree=1A https://slate.com/culture/2012/06/girls-and-sex-once-more-looking-for-mr-goodbar.html  A review of the book, Looking for Mr. Goodbar and it is a scathing, wonderful review. https://www.newspapers.com/image/464310446/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/464335752/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/464326822/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/464323440/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/465011394/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/465651811/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/464961948/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/395440179/?match=1&terms=%22Roseann%20Quinn%22 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/16356892/roseann_m-quinn https://aliciapatterson.org/susan-brownmiller/the-police-the-press-and-roseann-quinn/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4910136/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our good friends, Mike and JT from Brew Crime, join us for November's unsolved crossover. Today, JT tells us about a terrifying six-year murder spree (1990-1996) targeted at least thirteen vulnerable elderly women in Richmond's West End, creating widespread panic. The case was officially pinned on one killer, but the narrative quickly fell apart: the series was split by a two-year hiatus and featured a pronounced shift from the stabbing homicides of six Black women to the homicides of seven White women. The case was hastily "closed" for the Phase II victims through the highly disputed confession of a diagnosed schizophrenic with zero forensic links to the crime scenes, leaving the initial wave of brutal stabbings completely unresolved. The official resolution is rooted in systemic failure and alleged racial bias, ensuring the actual killer, or killers, walked free. Source for the Episode Associated Press. (1996, April 25). Pattern Sought in Richmond Killings. The Roanoke Times. https://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/ROA-Times/issues/1996/rt9604/960425/04250042.htm Cases Solved Using Forensic Genetic Genealogy: How DNA Profiles Crack Cold Cases. (n.d.). Genomelink. Retrieved November 3, 2025, from https://genomelink.io/blog/cases-solved-using-forensic-genetic-genealogy-how-dna-profiles-crack-cold-cases Leslie Burchart. (n.d.). In Wikipedia. Retrieved November 3, 2025, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Burchart Perpetrator typologies and behavioral patterns in strangulation homicides: A Smallest Space Analysis. (n.d.). PMC. Retrieved November 3, 2025, from https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12046104 The Golden Years Murders. (n.d.). In Wikipedia. Retrieved November 3, 2025, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Years_Murders https://richmondstandard.com/richmond/2025/02/26/richmond-city-council-honors-black-nine-guardians-of-justice/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 2003, Lori McLeod and her daughter, Kaysi, were living a modest, quiet life in rural Colorado. Lori occasionally visited a nearby casino to play her favorite card games—a small escape from her everyday routine. There, she met Scott Kimball. He was assisting his mother in a wheelchair when he struck up a friendly conversation with Lori. Scott’s warm demeanor, easy humor, and apparent devotion to his mother made a strong impression. To Lori, he seemed genuine, kind, and trustworthy. But the man she met that night was nothing like the person he truly was. Join us on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast  entitled "FBI Informant, Serial Killer: The Double Life of Scott Kimball" Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music by our EP @theinkypawprint Sources:  https://www.foxnews.com/us/serial-killer-fbi-informant-tricked-feds-for-years-while-preying-on-victims-former-agent https://magazine.atavist.com/2021/the-snitch-fbi-scott-kimball-informant-killer-colorado https://www.denverpost.com/tag/scott-kimball/ https://abcnews.go.com/US/convicted-serial-killer-scott-kimballs-sons-break-silence/story?id=99174449 https://www.crimelibrary.org/serial_killers/predators/scott_lee_kimball/9.html https://www.cbsnews.com/video/serial-killer-hannibal-speaks/ https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article218733255.html https://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-mystery-hannibal-unmasked-20-08-2011/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/o27ohz/in_scott_kimball_the_fbi_thought_it_had_found_a/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAJ4pX8F__E https://www.cbsnews.com/news/serial-killers-life-of-crime/ https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-scott-kimball-now/ https://www.thereviewgeek.com/where-is-scott-lee-kimball-now/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnX57daQ4kY https://www.serialkillercalendar.com/Scott%20Lee%20KIMBALL.php Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices