Outlaws with TS Madison

When a Libra born to an Aries links up with another Aries? Baby, something divine and dangerous is about to happen — and the cosmos can’t contain it. Today, TS Madison sits down at the mic with the one and only comedian, actor, and unapologetic truth-teller Ms. Pat. They talk about everything from "The Ms. Pat Show" and its 95% true-to-life origins to her astounding journey from hustling in Atlanta to Emmy-nominated sitcom star. Ms. Pat opens up about raising kids while hustling, the importance of building generational wealth, and how mentors like Lee Daniels and Jordan E. Cooper helped her turn her story into a hit. Then, Ms. Pat gets all the way real — about unlearning homophobia, raising a gay daughter, losing friends who couldn’t evolve, and how shocked she was initially when she realized just how many parents abandon their queer kids. She drops parenting gospel, too: stop hiding behind religion, stop kicking your kids out at 18, and start watering their flowers instead of pouring gasoline on them. Plus: being a sexually active grandma, why she refuses to babysit, why she hated her daughter's cheerleading coach so much, what Hollywood taught her, and why she wasn’t pressed when Lee Daniels cut her scene from "The United States vs. Billie Holiday" (“my check cleared!”). All this, and Ms. Pat proves she’s the definition of an ally — loud, loving, and learning out loud. 🎬 Don’t miss "Ms. Pat Settles It" — Season 3 premieres on BET tonight (Tuesday 11/4) at 10 PM ET / 9 CT — the same day this episode drops! "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Blue Wall King meets the U·biq·ui·tous Queen! Today on “Outlaws,” TS Madison sits down with Terrell Grice—creator and host of the hit YouTube series "The Terrell Show," now in its seventh season featuring icons like Keke Palmer, Chloe Bailey, The Clark Sisters, Tia Mowry, Michelle Williams, Cynthia Erivo, Kelly Clarkson, and Coco Jones. Guests on his show are expected to sing *down*—but Terrell might just make an exception for Maddie to stop by and shake the table. (And okay, listen... if you caught her "Little Shop" audition to play Audrey II in our Wayne Brady episode, you already know Maddie can do it all.) Terrell tells Maddie how his unexpected path from reality-TV producer to YouTube creator led to one of the internet’s most beloved music talk shows—now boasting over 1.4 million subscribers and counting. Once the BuzzBalls start flowing (yes, in actual glasses), the conversation turns into a lively deep dive into their favorite vocalists, Brandy nostalgia, Whitney Houston devotion, and a debate comparing the R&B queens of the ’80s and ’90s to today’s generation of artists. Both Madison and Terrell grew up in the church, and they open up about how queerness reshaped their families’ faith and expanded their understanding of love. Terrell reflects on his so-called “Villain Era”—giving his mom the space to grieve the future she once imagined and finding their way back to each other. Together, he and Madison unpack the similarities and differences between coming out as gay vs. trans, the tension of wanting to preserve family relationships if you can (while still appreciating the power found in creating a 'chosen family'), and the joyful moments that follow the hard conversations and make it all worth it—like watching your Apostolic grandmother live her BEST life at the Caesars Palace slot machines at 3AM. "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on "Outlaws," TS Madison welcomes her longtime friend Tamar Braxton — Grammy-nominated singer, Emmy-nominated producer, and historic "Big Brother " champion — for a two-friends-chatting-at-the-kitchen-table kind of conversation that goes way deeper than the headlines.  Maddie gets Tamar to proudly run her résumé — five octaves, four Grammy nominations, and four #1 shows across four different networks. Then, they unpack: what Tamar learned from being a reality TV “villain," how Madison felt about “Queens Court," why Tamar returned to “The Braxtons,” and the passing of Tamar’s sister Traci. Also: tensions between Black women, grief counseling, the term "Liberal Christianity," celibacy, what sparked Tamar's connection to the LGBTQ+ community, whether or not she'd ever go on a dating show again, and more! And, finally, with an assist from our in-studio team Maddie figures out the proper term for an ally like Tamar, who’s not one of the girls but also IS one of the girls. This is one of the most personal and wide-ranging "Outlaws" episodes yet — full of laughter, truth, and the kind of honesty that only happens when two icons are completely at ease. Tune in to “The Braxtons” on We TV (for live broadcast) and/or stream it on Philo or ALLBLK – especially this Friday 10/24, as you may see some exclusive behind-the-scenes content of the making of today’s episode! "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The doctor is IN today– this week’s episode of "Outlaws" is holy, hilarious, and dare we say... HEAVENLY. TS Madison sits down with her longtime friend, dentist, reality TV star, and Congressional candidate, Dr. Heavenly Kimes from "Married to Medicine." Dr. Heavenly shares with Maddie how she got into dentistry, from early encouragement to study medicine to the search for a speciality that would also allow a work life balance. Because she’s not just a doctor and a business woman, but a wife and mother of three kids too! The pair get into Dr. Heavenly’s dive into the reality TV world with “Married to Medicine." Dr. Heavenly says reality TV gave her the training she needed for her next career move– politics. That’s right, Dr. Heavenly is running to represent Georgia’s 13th district in Congress! She and Madison delve into her decision to run for office, what she plans to do once she wins, and why it’s important to get out the vote. TS Madison reminds us that now more than ever, as so many vulnerable groups face attacks from the federal government, it’s important to bring humanity back into politics! "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Step right up – Jimbo the Drag Clown is here! The Clown of the North joins TS Madison in the “Outlaws” ring, and they kick things off with a look back at her “RuPaul’s Drag Race: All Stars” Season 8 win. Maddie floats the idea of an Olympic-style competition for every past champion. Not just a few, but ALL of them. We NEED to see this pantheon of Queens united– but unfortunately, as Maddie and Jimbo recognize, not everyone would be here to return. Madison and Jimbo pause to honor their beloved sister The Vivienne, who left us far too soon, which inspires a conversation about Jimbo’s sobriety journey.  Jimbo takes us through her origin story and how embracing her queerness changed her life. She talks about her complicated relationship with her father, who she remained estranged from until his deathbed, and the difficult realization that goodbye’s don’t always look like they do in the movies.  Next, we’re traveling back to the start of the COVID-19 lockdown– which just so happened to coincide with Jimbo’s debut on “Canada’s Drag Race.” Jimbo talks about the initial stress of watching the world shut down during her moment in the spotlight, but how, in a way, this turned out to be a blessing in disguise. When the world gets dark, we want to laugh, and Jimbo says she still meets people who tell her she helped get them through 2020! Of course, “Drag Race” was just the beginning. Jimbo shares how her All Star’s winnings helped her produce her dream project, “Jimbo’s Drag Circus” and her plans to take her clowning to the big screen. Madison and Jimbo agree, everybody’s got a clown in them! (Well, at least Maddie did once upon a time…) "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment. Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.  Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There are few in this world that are as controversial, raw, and authentic as TS Madison AND own up to it– and today’s guest is one of them. For a conversation all about sexuality and power, Maddie is joined by Cherry Thee Boom! Don’t get it twisted– TS Madison is all about uplifting the girls! Cherry might be a humble country girl at heart, but she IS that girl, with her very own podcast, “Cherry on Top”, and an upcoming book, “Black Butterfly Rising”. And in her introduction, Cherry reminds us that people are ALWAYS going to criticize you but that’s no reason to dim your light! We’re shaking the table this episode, as Madison and Cherry share their experiences with sex work and navigating the world as Black trans women. Cherry shares her philosophies on men, romance, and sex, and the advice she received when she first started her transition. The pair talk jealous from cis women, intercommunity hostility, and the purpose of labels. And we’re breaking down what really makes a DL man. Neither Maddie or Cherry is known for holding back, and they’re not starting now. And this episode reminds us, the girls are tired!  "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Messy Monday? Meet Talk Your Sh!t Tuesday! This week, Maddie chops it up with writer, actor, sexual/mental wellness advocate, and fellow iHeart podcast host Brandon Kyle Goodman! Reunited for the first time since the GLAAD Award nominated Logo Legend special where BKG and friends gave Maddie her flowers, they’re picking up right where they left off. Brandon’s talking all things gay, nonbinary, and polyamorous… and what it’s like to navigate those identities in today’s political climate.  Madison and Brandon reflect on their intersecting identities of being Black, queer, and trans, and how those identities show up in the entertainment industry. Brandon shares the joy of working on “Big Mouth,” a show which they say championed the importance of diversity of all kinds in the writers room. But shows like “Big Mouth” are more often the exception than the rule, and Hollywood still has a lot of work to do to make sure everyone is seen and heard– on screen AND in the writers room. Brandon shares pivotal moments from their own life, including how “Sister Act 2” inspired their creative journey and how their mom became a Born Again Christian, sparking Brandon’s villain era. But, as they remind us, sometimes you need to be the villain in someone else’s eye in order to live your authentic life. In a time when there’s incredible pressure to conform, Brandon asks us, who would you be if society never got its hands on you? To hear more from Brandon Kyle Goodman, check out Tell Me Something Messy on the iHeartRadio app, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts. "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ask and you shall receive! This week’s guest is our #1 most requested—by a landslide—LUENELL! Amid her nonstop touring schedule, she blesses the "Outlaws" studio to chop it up with TS Madison, and listen… we’re already nominating this episode for the "Outlaws" Hall of Fame. First, Luenell dives into her roots in small-town Arkansas and why she goes by just one name. From there, the conversation takes off: her wild bank robbery story (and how she got caught), a brief stint as a sex worker, why she was unable to watch Princess Diana’s funeral, overcoming addiction, and the surprising ways prison taught her to appreciate life’s little things. We also get a behind-the-scenes look at her illustrious comedy career, working with fellow legends like Adam Sandler and Eddie Murphy—whether that’s hanging upside down on a stripper pole or voicing cartoon characters with the "Hotel Transylvania" franchise. Plus, Luenell spills on reconciling with Leslie Jones while filming "Coming to America 2." Madison and Luenell also unpack Hollywood’s brutal beauty standards, how a surprise FaceTime from Rihanna landed her a Savage X Fenty modeling gig, and how that experience paved the way for her (now retired) OnlyFans. "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, we’re joined by the Queen of Melrose herself, Cosmo Lombino! Owner of Cosmo's Glamsquad, Cosmo & Donato, and Fashion Whore, Cosmo has styled everyone from celebrities to the girl next door– and of course, our host TS Madison! Maddie and Cosmo reminisce on their first meeting in one of Cosmo’s shops 15 years ago… and the shoes Maddie still needs to pick up… Cosmo’s bringing Melrose to the studio, with a Medusa-esque headpiece perfect for Madison. And let’s hear it for the kimono! Could we be seeing an on-site Outlaws styling sesh in the future?? From fur coats one week to food stamps the next, Cosmo gets into her Scorsese-esque childhood in the Bronx. Maddie asks the big questions like, can you be a crime boss and a Jehovah’s witness? And of course, we dive into the story of her family’s move to California, which went viral in 2024.  Family is a big theme of this episode, as Maddie and Cosmo share their own journeys with their families and why it’s important for parents to love their gay children. God loves his girls and God loves his gays– don’t get it twisted!  "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, TS Madison is joined by YouTube royalty– actress, model, philanthropist, and mother of 3 (cats), Gigi Gorgeous! Maddie starts the conversation by coaching Gigi on how to talk her shit! She IS that bitch! The pair talk about the early days of YouTube, and how being in the right place at the right time led to Gigi’s iconic billboard on Sunset Boulevard. Maddie talks about admiring Gigi as one of the ORIGINAL rich trans girls on the Internet, and seeing her as a model of success early on in both of their careers. But it’s not all LA sunshine and lipgloss– Maddie and Gigi get into the nuances of being trans icons, from the competition within the community to the pressures to be the perfect role model to the extra barriers trans women of color must face. The girls get into navigating dating, chasers, and how the community keeps itself safe! We get a glimpse into some key moments in Gigi’s life– including how she went from being a diving champion to a makeup guru, her villain era as what she dubbed “the city gardener”– and of course, being detained and nearly imprisoned in Dubai.  And for the first time in “Outlaws” history, for Ban it, Bitch, we’re banning a ban: Gigi says young broke trans girls deserve the right to shoplift! "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We’ve got a true queer power couple in the studio today: THE Raven-Symoné and Miranda Maday, co-hosts of the hit podcast Tea Time! Raven’s been in the spotlight since diapers, but don’t get it twisted – Miranda is every bit a powerhouse herself, with an Emmy to boot. Nothing’s off-limits in this conversation. We’re tackling the biggest (and girthiest) questions about strap-ons: Raven wants to know, why pink? Madison counters, why not? And are “flesh-tone” strap-ons outdated—or still the ultimate hipwear?? Raven gets candid about growing up under the Disney microscope, the pressures around gender identity and presentation, and how meeting Miranda changed everything. In just 38 minutes, this episode covers so much ground—from why entertainers get paid so much, to what it’s like navigating private pain while in the public eye, to why the powers-that-be are so terrified of social media. And of course, what it actually means to represent the LGBTQ+ community (or as they call it: the Labiquita!) as public figures. "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For this episode of Outlaws, TS Madison is joined by the QUEEN of comedy herself, Mo’Nique! These girls go way back, and Mo’Nique shares a story about her and Madison’s first interview together. The pair talk about their respective journeys to stardom and navigating Hollywood as plus sized girls. Whether your trans or cis, there’s a lot of pressure to change who you are, but Mo’Nique isn’t having it. She reminds us that the public fell in love with THE TS Madison as she is, loud, live, and in COLOR! Next, Mo’Nique spills about her relationship with her husband Sidney Hicks, and how she fell in love with her best friend. She talks about how this relationship has opened up new ways of seeing herself, and what she deserves– and what we all deserve from love! And of course, neither our host or our guest today shies away from controversy– sometimes on opposite sides. We get a peak behind the scenes at how TS Madison helped reconcile Mo’Nique and Lee Daniel’s working relationship. And we’re all winning because of it! Could we see more TS Madison-facilitated reunions in the future? Could we see a conversation between Mo’Nique and Oprah? Or Tyler Perry? Mo’Nique and Maddie say the door is open! "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With a multifaceted career both onscreen and behind the camera, Orlando Jones is the definition of a storyteller. And he’s no stranger to being called an outlaw– from "Mad TV" to Mr. Nancy, Orlando’s been shaking things up since the 90s!  To start off, Orlando tells TS Madison about his evolution in the entertainment industry. An early adapter of mobile media content, Orlando’s media company won the first ever virtual reality Emmy Award. Next, they get into the nuances of centering Black voices in entertainment– storytelling is a powerful tool, and Orlando wants to see more stories by and for Black America!  And of course, we have to get into the “American Gods” of it all. Madison thanks Orlando for his work shaping the show’s iconic, Mr. Nancy– not only playing the character on screen but developing the character in the writer’s room as well! The pair talk Mr. Nancy’s iconic monologues, the show’s reimagining of spirituality and mythology…and of course get into the details of Orlando’s controversial firing from the show– which prompted fan backlash and boycotts of the show’s third (and ultimately final) season. That’s not all– in an exclusive moment, Orlando Jones reveals he’s just finished a Mr. Nancy novel! Could we see a role for TS Madison if (and when) it’s ever adapted for the screen??? "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on Outlaws, we’re bringing you the iconic Miss Lawrence! From Housewives to slaying the real estate game, this episode spotlights Black queer excellence. TS Madison and Miss Lawrence share their love for each other, as two groundbreaking voices of reality TV.  Miss Lawrence talks his sh!t, with a previous career as one of the most sought after hairstylists in Atlanta which then laid the groundwork for his eclectic career in the entertainment industry. Madison and Lawrence dish on the public perception of flamboyant Black queens and the expectations that they will not succeed– which makes it even more important to celebrate their wins! Both of these icons have changed the way Blackness, queerness, and femininity are seen on and off screen– and their work is paying off! The duo delve into the highlights of Miss Lawrence's career– from his “Villain era” of pushing his team towards greatness, to the chance encounter that inspired him to close his salon and move onto bigger and brighter things, to working together on Bros and maybe a future project on the “sacrifices of the boot”… We’re then treated to a surprise facetime call and Maddie’s showstopping rendition of Happy Birthday for Miss Lawrence’s niece. And for this week’s Ban It, Bitch, Miss Lawrence is taking on Hookah bars (he’s saving all our voices, y’all!) In times like these where some are trying to erase Black and queer history, it’s now more important than ever to uplift voices like Miss Lawrence, that embody the abundance, excellence, and greatness we’re all capable of. We’re here and we’re not going anywhere!  "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Teresa Josephine Marie Fortenberry 🫱🏻‍🫲🏾Thunderstorm Madison.  We’re mixing it up today with the internet’s favorite good Southern Christian girl, Terri Joe. Terri’s here to share the word of the Lord with TS Madison, and how she navigates the world as a true child of God amidst abominations like vampires, welfare, hair dye, and pork chops. Terri shares stories from growing up in Bon Temps, Louisiana, including her…unique conversion therapy method, granted to her by God. Over the years, Terri Joe has cured many a hommaseggsyuhs (except for her nemesis Saucy Santana) and her work is far from over! Unfortunately, Terri Joe had to leave unexpectedly mid-interview, but the phenomenal Kelon Campbell steps in to take over the rest of the episode! Madison shares her love for the success of Kelon’s alter ego and how sharing the stage with Terri Joe has been a longtime dream! Kelon reflects on how Terri Joe came to be, taking the stage with Madonna, and going live with legends (Doja Cat!). We get into everything from the night he was escorted by security out of Shawty Bae’s birthday party, to the upcoming TERRI JOE MOVIE in the works! Did y’all know that was happening?! Madison encourages Kelon, as an Outlaw and as one of the seeds of her garden, to speak on his accomplishments with a little more pride moving forward – because if you can't celebrate yourself, how in the hell you gonna celebrate somebody else?! AMEN. "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

BRETMAN ROCK has entered the chat! Bretman joins Maddie all the way from Hawai'i. We kick things off with a conversation on gender identity and B’s experiences growing up in Hawai‘i as a non-binary Filipino kid. Bretman shares how being raised among cultures where mahu and bakla are not only respected but revered helped him embrace the entire spectrum of gender identities. Madison opens up about her own experiences and ongoing learning regarding nonbinary identities. Then, as always, TS Madison asks her guest to talk his shit – and BABY, Bretman understood the assignment. Millionaire at 18? Check. Living his ancestors’ greatest dreams? Check. Peacocks in the backyard? Check. Bretman shares his origin story at a Wal-Mart, and Maddie helps him unpack his genuinely jawdropping villain era (trust, you HAVE to hear this one…!!!). We cover so much in this one: influencer “shelf-lives,” family trauma, bottoms who don’t use Pure for Men, generational healing, and why tourists in Hawai’i should NOT pet the seals!!! This is the crossover episode you didn’t know you needed. "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

TS Madison is joined by the legend, the mother, the trendsetter, the seed planter, Maddie’s future presidential pick– Laverne Cox! Laverne is the DEFINITION of a trailblazer, as the first trans woman to grace the cover of Times Magazine, British Vogue, Cosmo, Essence, and so much more. And she’s not kicking down the ladder– Laverne says the best part of fame is getting to inspire and create space for up-and-coming trans and queer artists. She may be the first when it comes to nominations and accolades, but she will NOT be the last! Two pillars of trans media, Laverne and Madison discuss breaking into the entertainment industry as Black trans women, and the double standards and setbacks that are all too common. Laverne talks about her own journey waitressing in New York for years and almost getting evicted before reaching career success with Orange Is The New Black– and now executive producing and starring in her own TV series, Clean Slate. And there's no question why Maddie wants to see this TV star in office– Laverne talks gender theory, from reading Judith Butler and bell hooks in college, to what it means to be a trans person in 2025. Laverne provides insight into how the patriarchy demonizes trans women and cis women alike, why intersectionality is important, and breaks down the dangers of Project 2025 for all of us. It’s not an easy time, as trans and queer folks face more and more political attacks every day. But it’s voices like Laverne’s that remind us of our power. "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Last week, Madison talked with Monét X Change, so it’s only fitting that today we have the other half of “Sibling Rivalry” on the pod– it’s “RuPaul’s Drag Race” Season 8 winner, Bob the Drag Queen! Drag superstar, comedian, Madonna’s MC– Bob’s adding “author” to an already impressive resume, with his new book "Harriet Tubman: Live in Concert!" But before getting into that, Madison and Bob talk Drag Race, douching etiquette, sobriety, and concealed carry– if you needed another reason not to mess with Maddie. Bob talks about his lifelong obsession with Harriet Tubman and everything she accomplished in her long life. Bob shares his favorite photo of Harriet looking regal as hell in her 90s and the book’s heartfelt dedication to Bob’s late mother, as well as anecdotes from his research. Manifestation is a big theme in this episode– from historical examples to personal ones. These are southern girls, so we’re mixing scripture and spells– from reflecting on Harriet Tubman’s spirituality, to on-air-manifesting Madison’s next collab. And Bob talks about getting a glowing review from his favorite performers of all time– is the key to meeting your heroes getting them tattooed on your body? Or maybe just a mood board… "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, Madison is joined by “Drag Race” alum, the one and only Monét X Change! To start off, we’re talking about the gender spectrum– she, her, he, him, they, them, and whatever else you want to throw in there. The ladies have a cross-general conversation about how expectations of gender identity and presentation have changed. Monét talks about her pronouns in and out of drag, and deep questions such as, to boob or not to boob? Doth the position maketh man (or woman)?  Next we’re going nuclear– we all know Maddie doesn’t play and she doesn’t pull any punches. Monét’s villain era inspires today’s target… a certain blond haired talk show host who thinks she can hate on the trans community and still love the Ru girls. Okay… Like Madison says, if you don’t want to go nuclear, don’t press the button! This episode is bringing you big topics– like the importance of voting rights– and even bigger questions. Like, what the f*ck is a caramel macchiato?? Is New York really worth the winters? When will Madison become a regular judge on “Drag Race”? And will we see Madison follow in Monét’s footsteps as a future star of “The Traitors”??? "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

He’s a Libra, he’s successful, he’s amazing, he’s a trendsetter…a bad bitch all around, in this episode TS Madison is joined by the Material Gworl himself, SAUCY SANTANA! They discuss the impact of growing up watching "Real Housewives of Atlanta" and "RuPaul’s Drag Race" MADE Saucy Santana, exploring makeup as a teenager, swapping gender expectations for authenticity, and Maddie shares her own experience transitioning at 17.  Doesn’t matter if you’re he/him, she/her, they/them, this episode is for the GWORLS! Madison and Saucy talk intersectionality, fighting back against prejudice from within their own communities. We’re all in the fight to tear down white supremacy together!  Next, we get into Santana's villain era, his days reading bitches on twitter, how fame changed that, and also, we learn about the moment when Maddie realized she had become an elder.  "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.