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Learn from history's greatest innovators, founders, and investors with a mix of interviews and summaries of the best books, essays, and lectures. Each week, Daniel Scrivner decodes the ideas, strategies, and frameworks used by the best innovators, founders, and investors. Past guests include Scott Belsky (Adobe), Gokul Rajaram (DoorDash), Kevin Kelly (WIRED), Sir Ronald Cohen (IMPACT), Erling Kagge (Everest Explorer), along with the founders of Wealthfront, Public.com, Primal Kitchen, 1-800-GOT-JUNK, Levels, and Eight Sleep. Visit OutlierAcademy.com for episode notes, searchable transcripts, videos, and more.
Outliers with Daniel Scrivner is a mix of Founders Podcast, How I Built This, Business Breakdowns, Invest Like The Best, Founder's Field Guide, 20VC (20 Minute VC), The Knowledge Project, What It Takes, and The Tim Ferriss Show.
Outliers with Daniel Scrivner is a mix of Founders Podcast, How I Built This, Business Breakdowns, Invest Like The Best, Founder's Field Guide, 20VC (20 Minute VC), The Knowledge Project, What It Takes, and The Tim Ferriss Show.
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Steve Jobs made an incredible impact on the world by creating two of today's most important companies in Apple and Pixar. Both companies created world-changing products while Steve Jobs was alive in the Macintosh, iPod, iPhone, and Oscar winning animated films such as Toy Story. More importantly, both companies developed the right team, vision, and culture to continue producing world-shaping products decades later — long after Steve's departure. As we learn in this book, Steve's values and ethos live on in both of these incredible companies.
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To Pixar And Beyond: My Unlikely Journey with Steve Jobs to Make Entertainment History
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Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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Steve Jobs made an incredible impact on the world by creating two of today's most important companies in Apple and Pixar. Both companies created world-changing products while Steve Jobs was alive in the Macintosh, iPod, iPhone, and Oscar winning animated films such as Toy Story. More importantly, both companies developed the right team, vision, and culture to continue producing world-shaping products decades later — long after Steve's departure. As we learn in this book, Steve's values and ethos live on in both of these incredible companies.
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Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/172.
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
To Pixar And Beyond: My Unlikely Journey with Steve Jobs to Make Entertainment History
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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My favorite lessons from "To Pixar and Beyond" by Lawrence Levy. Who joined Pixar in 1995, helped Steve Jobs take Pixar public, and built it into the $7.4 billion company Disney eventually acquired.
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Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/183.
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction and Background
(03:10) Anatomy of a Deal and Poker Time
(05:04) #1 Don't Engage in Positional Bargaining
(06:53) #2 Understand the Difference Between Strategy and Tactics
(10:05) #3 Analyze Your Points of Leverage
(14:47) #4 Get Clear on What You Want and Why
(20:32) #5 Wait to Negotiate Until You Have Maximum Leverage
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To Pixar And Beyond: My Unlikely Journey with Steve Jobs to Make Entertainment History
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My favorite lessons from "To Pixar and Beyond" by Lawrence Levy. Who joined Pixar in 1995, helped Steve Jobs take Pixar public, and built it into the $7.4 billion company Disney eventually acquired.
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Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/184.
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction and Background
(03:10) Anatomy of a Deal and Poker Time
(05:04) #1 Don't Engage in Positional Bargaining
(06:53) #2 Understand the Difference Between Strategy and Tactics
(10:05) #3 Analyze Your Points of Leverage
(14:47) #4 Get Clear on What You Want and Why
(20:32) #5 Wait to Negotiate Until You Have Maximum Leverage
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
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After he was dismissed from Apple in the early 1990s, Steve Jobs turned his attention to a little-known graphics company he owned called Pixar. One day, out of the blue, Jobs called Lawrence Levy, a Harvard-trained lawyer and executive to whom he had never spoken before. He hoped to persuade Levy to help him pull Pixar back from the brink of failure. This is the extraordinary story of what happened next: how Jobs and Levy concocted and pulled off a highly improbable plan that transformed Pixar into the Hollywood powerhouse it is today.
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Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/182.
Chapters
(00:00) The Bleak State of Pixar's Business in 1994
(08:06) Steve Jobs' Investment in Pixar
(10:24) The Initial Contract with Disney
(26:27) The Four Pillar Business Strategy
(32:53) Renegotiating the Contract with Disney
(38:10) Don't Engage in Positional Bargaining
(40:36) Understand the Difference Between Strategy and Tactics
(43:11) Analyze Where You Stand in Relation to the Other Party
(45:40) Pixar's Negotiating Power
(48:05) Assessing Strength and Negotiating Terms
(49:27) Knowing What You Want
(51:20) Creative Control and Release Windows
(52:18) Profit Share and Revenue Calculation
(53:42) Building the Pixar Brand
(55:09) Waiting for Maximum Leverage
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To Pixar And Beyond: My Unlikely Journey with Steve Jobs to Make Entertainment History
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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After he was dismissed from Apple in the early 1990s, Steve Jobs turned his attention to a little-known graphics company he owned called Pixar. One day, out of the blue, Jobs called Lawrence Levy, a Harvard-trained lawyer and executive to whom he had never spoken before. He hoped to persuade Levy to help him pull Pixar back from the brink of failure. This is the extraordinary story of what happened next: how Jobs and Levy concocted and pulled off a highly improbable plan that transformed Pixar into the Hollywood powerhouse it is today.
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/183.
Chapters
(00:00) The Bleak State of Pixar's Business in 1994
(08:06) Steve Jobs' Investment in Pixar
(10:24) The Initial Contract with Disney
(26:27) The Four Pillar Business Strategy
(32:53) Renegotiating the Contract with Disney
(38:10) Don't Engage in Positional Bargaining
(40:36) Understand the Difference Between Strategy and Tactics
(43:11) Analyze Where You Stand in Relation to the Other Party
(45:40) Pixar's Negotiating Power
(48:05) Assessing Strength and Negotiating Terms
(49:27) Knowing What You Want
(51:20) Creative Control and Release Windows
(52:18) Profit Share and Revenue Calculation
(53:42) Building the Pixar Brand
(55:09) Waiting for Maximum Leverage
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
To Pixar And Beyond: My Unlikely Journey with Steve Jobs to Make Entertainment History
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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In 2016, Apple published a limited edition anthology, chronicling the last 20 years of Apple's designs simply titled Designed by Apple in California. The book is dedicated to the memory of Steve Jobs.
“The idea of genuinely trying to make something great for humanity was Steve’s motivation from the beginning, and it remains both our ideal and our goal as Apple looks to the future,” said Jony Ive, Apple’s chief design officer. “This archive is intended to be a gentle gathering of many of the products the team has designed over the years. We hope it brings some understanding to how and why they exist, while serving as a resource for students of all design disciplines.”
The book was written and curated over an eight-year period by Jony Ive and features photos by award-winning photographer Andrew Zuckerman. All of the photos were shot in a deliberately spare style that has become a hallmark of Apple's design aesthetic. The books 450 images illustrates Apple’s design process as well as its finished products.
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction
(01:19) Designed by Apple in California
(03:13) Objective Representation of Work
(04:11) Collaboration and Design Process
(05:05) Evolution of Forms and Materials
(06:05) Simplicity and Communication
(07:01) Dedication to Steve Jobs
(08:24) Book Overview
(09:51) Johnny Ive's Perspective
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Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/177.
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In 2016, Apple published a limited edition anthology, chronicling the last 20 years of Apple's designs simply titled Designed by Apple in California. The book is dedicated to the memory of Steve Jobs.
“The idea of genuinely trying to make something great for humanity was Steve’s motivation from the beginning, and it remains both our ideal and our goal as Apple looks to the future,” said Jony Ive, Apple’s chief design officer. “This archive is intended to be a gentle gathering of many of the products the team has designed over the years. We hope it brings some understanding to how and why they exist, while serving as a resource for students of all design disciplines.”
The book was written and curated over an eight-year period by Jony Ive and features photos by award-winning photographer Andrew Zuckerman. All of the photos were shot in a deliberately spare style that has become a hallmark of Apple's design aesthetic. The books 450 images illustrates Apple’s design process as well as its finished products.
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction
(01:19) Designed by Apple in California
(03:13) Objective Representation of Work
(04:11) Collaboration and Design Process
(05:05) Evolution of Forms and Materials
(06:05) Simplicity and Communication
(07:01) Dedication to Steve Jobs
(08:24) Book Overview
(09:51) Johnny Ive's Perspective
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/177.
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For more, explore my full profile of Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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“At this point in my career, I have art directed over 100 products from a rough idea into consumer’s hands. I’ve collaborated with incredible creators like James Clear and Roxane Gay. There came a point where it was very obvious how it all worked and fit together—because I was always interested not just in what I was doing but how I was doing it.” — Joey Cofone
Joey Cofone, Founder & CEO of the much loved “tools for thinkers” company Baronfig, joins me to breakdown his new book, The Laws of Creativity. We cover why creativity isn’t magic, how creators across history from Albert Einstein to Grace Hopper and Bruce Lee wielded creativity to reach incredible heights, practical ways to hone your creativity, a framework for generating ideas, Joey’s process for writing the book, and so much more.
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Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/142.
Chapters
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:49) Origin Story of The Laws of Creativity
(00:06:39) Distilling Down the Laws of Creativity
(00:08:17) What Creativity Is and Why It Isn’t Magic
(00:18:17) On Zeno’s Paradox and Choosing to Finish
(00:22:58) The Laws of Mindset, Action, and Greatness
(00:25:57) Joey’s Favorite Law: The Law of Competition
(00:29:55) The Law of Precision
(00:33:00) The Law of The Muse
(00:36:06) On Borrowing vs Stealing Ideas
(00:39:42) The Law of Simplicity
(00:42:56) The Law of Good Enough
(00:46:51) Joey’s Process for Writing the Book
(00:55:54) Knowing When the Book Was Done
(01:02:07) The Highs and Lows of Creating Baronfig
(01:04:54) Creativity vs Business
(01:08:21) Baronfig: The Idea Company
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Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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About the book.
In his book The Laws of Creativity, Joey debunks why creativity isn’t magic and shares what it is, how it works, and how you can harness it in your everyday life. Learn how to unlock your originality and awaken your creative genius with Joey Cofone—award-winning designer and Founder & CEO of the much loved “Tools for Thinkers'' brand Baronfig.
Each of the 39 Laws of Creativity are illustrated with inspiring, enlightening, and surprising stories of iconic creators across history—including Albert Einstein, Serena Williams, Martin Luther King Jr., Harry Houdini, Grace Hopper, Bruce Lee, and many more. Joey breaks down how these titans of history wielded creativity to reach incredible heights.
“Drawing on decades of experience, Joey Cofone has distilled the elements of creativity into an excellent, easy-to-use guide. The Laws of Creativity provides a roadmap for unleashing the creative force inside you.” — James Clear, Author of Atomic Habits
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“At this point in my career, I have art directed over 100 products from a rough idea into consumer’s hands. I’ve collaborated with incredible creators like James Clear and Roxane Gay. There came a point where it was very obvious how it all worked and fit together—because I was always interested not just in what I was doing but how I was doing it.” — Joey Cofone
Joey Cofone, Founder & CEO of the much loved “tools for thinkers” company Baronfig, joins me to breakdown his new book, The Laws of Creativity. We cover why creativity isn’t magic, how creators across history from Albert Einstein to Grace Hopper and Bruce Lee wielded creativity to reach incredible heights, practical ways to hone your creativity, a framework for generating ideas, Joey’s process for writing the book, and so much more.
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/142.
Chapters
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:49) Origin Story of The Laws of Creativity
(00:06:39) Distilling Down the Laws of Creativity
(00:08:17) What Creativity Is and Why It Isn’t Magic
(00:18:17) On Zeno’s Paradox and Choosing to Finish
(00:22:58) The Laws of Mindset, Action, and Greatness
(00:25:57) Joey’s Favorite Law: The Law of Competition
(00:29:55) The Law of Precision
(00:33:00) The Law of The Muse
(00:36:06) On Borrowing vs Stealing Ideas
(00:39:42) The Law of Simplicity
(00:42:56) The Law of Good Enough
(00:46:51) Joey’s Process for Writing the Book
(00:55:54) Knowing When the Book Was Done
(01:02:07) The Highs and Lows of Creating Baronfig
(01:04:54) Creativity vs Business
(01:08:21) Baronfig: The Idea Company
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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About the book.
In his book The Laws of Creativity, Joey debunks why creativity isn’t magic and shares what it is, how it works, and how you can harness it in your everyday life. Learn how to unlock your originality and awaken your creative genius with Joey Cofone—award-winning designer and Founder & CEO of the much loved “Tools for Thinkers'' brand Baronfig.
Each of the 39 Laws of Creativity are illustrated with inspiring, enlightening, and surprising stories of iconic creators across history—including Albert Einstein, Serena Williams, Martin Luther King Jr., Harry Houdini, Grace Hopper, Bruce Lee, and many more. Joey breaks down how these titans of history wielded creativity to reach incredible heights.
“Drawing on decades of experience, Joey Cofone has distilled the elements of creativity into an excellent, easy-to-use guide. The Laws of Creativity provides a roadmap for unleashing the creative force inside you.” — James Clear, Author of Atomic Habits
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In this episode of Friday Five, Daniel Scrivner shares his five favorite ideas from the book 'Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success' by Ken Segall. The book explores Apple's obsession with simplicity and how it has contributed to the company's success. The five ideas and stories discussed include starting with small groups of smart people, expressing a single idea clearly, the power of speaking human, being a ruthless enforcer of high standards, and the importance of marketing based on values.
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction
(01:55) #1 Start with small groups of smart people and keep them small
(04:21) #2 People will always respond better to a single idea expressed clearly
(06:38) #3 1,000 songs in your pocket and the power of speaking human
(07:59) #4 Good enough is not good enough. Be a ruthless enforcer of high standards
(08:52) #5 In a complicated world, marketing is about values
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Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/176.
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Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
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In this episode of Friday Five, Daniel Scrivner shares his five favorite ideas from the book 'Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success' by Ken Segall. The book explores Apple's obsession with simplicity and how it has contributed to the company's success. The five ideas and stories discussed include starting with small groups of smart people, expressing a single idea clearly, the power of speaking human, being a ruthless enforcer of high standards, and the importance of marketing based on values.
Chapters
(00:00) Introduction
(01:55) #1 Start with small groups of smart people and keep them small
(04:21) #2 People will always respond better to a single idea expressed clearly
(06:38) #3 1,000 songs in your pocket and the power of speaking human
(07:59) #4 Good enough is not good enough. Be a ruthless enforcer of high standards
(08:52) #5 In a complicated world, marketing is about values
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/176.
Watch and listen.
Watch this episode on YouTube
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
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"Simple can be harder than complex. You have to work hard to get your thinking clean, to make it simple. But it's worth it in the end, because once you get there, you can move mountains." — Steve Jobs
To Steve Jobs, simplicity was a religion. It was also a weapon. Revolution after revolution, Jobs proved that Simplicity is the most powerful force in business. It guides the way Apple is organized, how it designs products, and how it connects with customers.
As ad agency creative director, Ken Segall played a key role in Apple's resurrection after Steve Jobs returned. He helped create such marketing campaigns as Think Different. By naming the iMac, he also laid the foundation for naming waves of i-products to come.
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/175.
Watch and listen.
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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"Simple can be harder than complex. You have to work hard to get your thinking clean, to make it simple. But it's worth it in the end, because once you get there, you can move mountains." — Steve Jobs
To Steve Jobs, simplicity was a religion. It was also a weapon. Revolution after revolution, Jobs proved that Simplicity is the most powerful force in business. It guides the way Apple is organized, how it designs products, and how it connects with customers.
As ad agency creative director, Ken Segall played a key role in Apple's resurrection after Steve Jobs returned. He helped create such marketing campaigns as Think Different. By naming the iMac, he also laid the foundation for naming waves of i-products to come.
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/175.
Watch and listen.
Watch this episode on YouTube
Find this episode in your favorite podcast app
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
Brought to you by HVMN. With Ketone-IQ, fuel your best anytime with a boost of awesome-feeling energy and clarity. Unlock the power of nature's superfuel—no fasting or keto diet required.
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"Simple can be harder than complex. You have to work hard to get your thinking clean, to make it simple. But it's worth it in the end, because once you get there, you can move mountains." — Steve Jobs
To Steve Jobs, simplicity was a religion. It was also a weapon. Revolution after revolution, Jobs proved that Simplicity is the most powerful force in business. It guides the way Apple is organized, how it designs products, and how it connects with customers.
As ad agency creative director, Ken Segall played a key role in Apple's resurrection after Steve Jobs returned. He helped create such marketing campaigns as Think Different. By naming the iMac, he also laid the foundation for naming waves of i-products to come.
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/174.
Watch and listen.
Watch this episode on YouTube
Find this episode in your favorite podcast app
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
Brought to you by HVMN. With Ketone-IQ, fuel your best anytime with a boost of awesome-feeling energy and clarity. Unlock the power of nature's superfuel—no fasting or keto diet required.
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"Simple can be harder than complex. You have to work hard to get your thinking clean, to make it simple. But it's worth it in the end, because once you get there, you can move mountains." — Steve Jobs
To Steve Jobs, simplicity was a religion. It was also a weapon. Revolution after revolution, Jobs proved that Simplicity is the most powerful force in business. It guides the way Apple is organized, how it designs products, and how it connects with customers.
As ad agency creative director, Ken Segall played a key role in Apple's resurrection after Steve Jobs returned. He helped create such marketing campaigns as Think Different. By naming the iMac, he also laid the foundation for naming waves of i-products to come.
Explore the episode notes.
Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/174.
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Explore my full summary for the book featured this week.
Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success
For more, explore my full profile on Steve Jobs.
Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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"It is easy to forget that, when he was a student, the man who brought us the Macintosh, iPhone and iPad (and, with his little finger, Pixar) collected bottle caps to make ends meet. The need to stretch every nickel informed the way Apple was run during the early days." — Mike Moritz
In 2015, Mike Moritz wrote an opinion piece for The Financial Times called "Imitators take note — Steve Jobs was more than a showman." It's a great reminder that the best businesses — including Apple — are the most capital efficient businesses. That what matters isn't how much you raise, but the business you build with what you raise. And that even Apple, started out life being incredibly cheap and capital efficient.
Being frugal and stretching every nickel ensures that your business is as durable as possible. While revenue will always ebb and flow, expenses are typically subject to inertia. Expenses tend to build up invisibly, almost imperceptibly, and can require heroic acts to shrink. While is why it's so important to build a culture of frugality from Day One — ensuring that as many dollars spent as possible go toward strategic expenses that sustain and grow your business.
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"It is easy to forget that, when he was a student, the man who brought us the Macintosh, iPhone and iPad (and, with his little finger, Pixar) collected bottle caps to make ends meet. The need to stretch every nickel informed the way Apple was run during the early days." — Mike Moritz
In 2015, Mike Moritz wrote an opinion piece for The Financial Times called "Imitators take note — Steve Jobs was more than a showman." It's a great reminder that the best businesses — including Apple — are the most capital efficient businesses. That what matters isn't how much you raise, but the business you build with what you raise. And that even Apple, started out life being incredibly cheap and capital efficient.
Being frugal and stretching every nickel ensures that your business is as durable as possible. While revenue will always ebb and flow, expenses are typically subject to inertia. Expenses tend to build up invisibly, almost imperceptibly, and can require heroic acts to shrink. While is why it's so important to build a culture of frugality from Day One — ensuring that as many dollars spent as possible go toward strategic expenses that sustain and grow your business.
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Search and down a transcript and find links to related books, interviews, lectures, and more: outlieracademy.com/173.
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Who is Steve Jobs? Wisdom From The Man Who Built Apple, NeXT, and Pixar
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“The investment management business actually looks a lot more like every other business, where there's products, there's marketing, and there's distribution, and you have to be outstanding at all three of those things in order to succeed in this business.” – Robert Cantwell, Founder and CIO of Compound Kings
Chapters
(00:02:23) Introduction
(00:04:53) Defining a compounder (growth, profitability, high ROIC)
(00:06:22) Investing in challenging markets
(00:14:26) Robert’s thoughts on the rise of active management
(00:17:28) Why so much money is still in mutual funds
(00:19:33) Thematic ETFs and where they can go wrong
(00:39:05) Why investing in public markets is so challenging
(00:46:09) Top three positions in Compound Kings today: Meta, ServiceNow, and Adyen
(01:05:35) What it’s like to build an ETF business
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About Robert Cantrell and Compound Kings.
Robert Cantwell is the Founder of Upholdings and Portfolio Manager of Compound Kings, which is an exchange-traded fund focused on investing in companies often called compounders. Compounders are typically profitable, growing, and generate very high returns on invest capital (ROIC).
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“The investment management business actually looks a lot more like every other business, where there's products, there's marketing, and there's distribution, and you have to be outstanding at all three of those things in order to succeed in this business.” – Robert Cantwell, Founder and CIO of Compound Kings
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