OverReaction Monday

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 2:00 - The Steelers will be playing in the AFC Championship Game 6:50 - The Cardinals are winning a home playoff game in two months 9:15 - The Jets would’ve had a better record with Zach Wilson this season 13:30 - If Jerry Jones calls this offseason, Bill Belichick should hang up 18:45 - The Panthers will finish 2nd in the NFC South 22:00 - It’s time for Drew Lock SZN in New York 25:45 - The Bears made a mistake keeping Matt Eberflus before this season 31:20 - Jared Goff is the biggest liability to a Lions Super Bowl win 36:30 - NFL Week 11 predictions FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics:   1:20 -   Saints fire Dennis Allen reactions 3:00 -   Flacco szn is over – Colts should go back to Anthony Richardson ASAP 6:35 -   The Bengals are making the playoffs 8:45 -  Micah Parsons should ask for a trade instead of re-signing with the Cowboys 12:20 - The Texans are frauds as AFC contenders 17:00 - The NFC West will be the only division to get 3 playoff teams 22:50 - The Commanders will be the NFC’s 1-seed 25:30 - The Bears need to make Kliff Kingsbury an offer he can’t refuse to bet HC this offseason 30:50 - The Packers are going to miss the playoffs 34:00 - NFL Week 10 predictions FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A   == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics:   2:05  -   Jameis is taking the Browns to the playoffs 8:15 -  We’re getting another Bills-Chiefs AFC Championship Game 12:10 – NFC North is only getting two playoff teams 16:40 - Kirk Cousins will be Comeback Player of the Year and MVP Finalist 22:15 - The Eagles are the 2nd-best team in the NFC 26:30 - The Packers should start Malik Willis until Jordan Love is 100% healthy 31:00 - NFC West is the best division in football 35:30 - The Cowboys will have a top 10 pick in the 2025 NFL Draft 40:30- NFL Week 9 predictions   FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics:   2:00  -   Russell Wilson will lead Steelers to the AFC North title  8:15 -   The Shanahan/Purdy combo will never beat the Chiefs 13:30 - The Giants should make the move and start Drew Lock this week 15:40 - Jared Goff should be at the top of the MVP discussion 21:00 - The Aaron Rodgers experiment in NY has been an utter failure 28:30 - The Colts can win the AFC South…IF they start Joe Flacco the rest of the way 31:45 - There will be multiple 10-win teams in the NFC that miss the playoffs 34:00 - Patrick Mahomes is not a top 10 QB right now despite being undefeated 39:30 - Future NFL predictions   FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics:   3:00  -  The Lions are the best team in the NFL 6:10 -   Mike Zimmer will end up being scapegoat for Cowboys’ woes 9:00 -   The Vikings will be odd man out in NFC North battle royale 13:00 - Everyone owes Caleb an apology for saying he shouldn’t have gone 1st overall 17:50 - Drake Maye will finish in top 3 in the Rookie of the Year race 22:10 - The Raiders made a mistake not going after Jim Harbaugh 26:00 - Lamar Jackson is going to win his 3rd MVP award this season 28:00 - Tonight is the biggest game of Aaron Rodgers’ career 31:30 - Future NFL predictions FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics:   1:30  -  Vikings/Jets recap 3:30 -    Sunday night vs Steelers was the best win of Dak’s career 6:45 -   AFC North is getting just one playoff team 9:00 -   The Bill’s first 3 games were all a mirage…they’re not making the playoffs 11:20 - Joe Burrow is playing better than any QB right now despite 1-4 start 16:30 - Aaron Rodgers should not have come back this year 21:50 - The Falcons have the best offense in the NFC 25:00 - The Giants won’t finish last in the NFC East 28:15 - All three rookie starting QBs will make the playoffs 31:30 - Future NFL predictions FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 2:15  -   Ravens are the Chiefs biggest threat in the AFC 6:15 -  Vikings are the best team in the NFL 9:25 -   Commanders will in the NFC East 14:25 - Colts should start Flacco until he loses even if Richardson is healthy 19:20 - 49ers don’t need McCaffrey to make the playoffs 25:15 - It’s time for the Patriots to start Drake Maye 31:15 - The only way Russell Wilson plays this year is for another team 34:15 - We’re officially on Jameis Winston watch in Cleveland 36:30 - Chiefs should for Tyreek Hill 38:45 - Jets won’t make the playoffs this season 42:00 - NFL Week 5 headline predictions FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball The Jim Jackson Show (debuts Oct3): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432 No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson (debuts Oct2): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708 ____ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 1:15  -  Cowboys not signing Derrick Henry is biggest whiff of Jerry Jones’ ownership 6:45 -   Will Levis is the next young QB on bench watch 9:00 -   Sam Darnold will be an MVP finalist 11:45 - Malik Nabers is so good that the Giants will end up keeping Daniel Jones beyond this season 16:15 - Andy Dalton will keep Panthers from having a top-10 pick next year 20:15 - Justin Fields will lead the Steelers to the NFC North title 24:50 - A 3-0 team is going to miss the playoffs 29:15 - The Saints turned back into a pumpkin/they are who we thought they were before the season 32:00 - Malik Willis will be a starting QB somewhere in 2025 34:30 - We jumped the gun on anointing the Texans as the AFC team to dethrone the Chiefs 37:15 -NFL Week 4 headline predictions FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 1:45  -   The Saints are the best team in the NFL right now 6:15 – The Cowboys are fraudulent Super Bowl contenders 10:40 - The 49ers let the wrong QB walk to Minnesota 15:45 - The Packers are going undefeated with Malik Willis at QB 20:00 - The Cardinals are going to win the NFC West 24:15 - The Bucs are legit Super Bowl contenders 30:00 - The Ravens will miss the playoffs 32:50 - Sean Payton should’ve stuck with Russell Wilson 36:55 - The Jags’ 0-2 start proves they shouldn’t have paid Trevor Lawrence 39:15 - Just give Jim Harbaugh Coach of the Year right now 44:15 - NFL Week 3 headline predictions FOLLOW US HERE:  Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: Overreaction Monday: http://apple.co/richeisenshow What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 1:45 - With Cousins clearly not 100%, the Falcons should start Penix in Week 2 6:30 - Sam Darnold is taking the Vikings to the playoffs 9:30 - Dave Canales is already on the hot seat in Carolina 13:40 - Justin Fields should be the Steelers starter the rest of the season 18:45 - The Cowboys had the most impressive Week 1 win 21:30 - The Browns need to move on from Deshaun Watson ASAP 24:40 - We are officially on Drew Lock watch for the Giants 28:30 - The Patriots won’t have a top 10 draft pick in 2025 31:25 - Baker Mayfield will be in the MVP conversation all season long 35:45 - The Packers should call Tom Brady… or at the very least Ryan Tannehill 40:00 – Predicting NFL Week 2’s headlines FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 3:00 - Regardless of what happens this season, Dak should play somewhere else next year 8:30 - The AFC West will only get one playoff team 11:15 - The Eagles vs Packers will foster the most Week 1 overreactions 14:30 - Neither Chiefs nor 49ers will make the Super Bowl 18:00 - This is finally the year Mike Tomlin finishes under .500 22:30 – Three NFC North teams are playoffs bound 26:45 - The Panthers won’t have the worst record in the NFC South 29:30 - Trevor Lawrence will be in the top 5 in MVP voting 32:30 - There will be at least two undefeated teams come November 35:15 - We’re going to get a new Super Bowl champion this year   FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 2:00 - Either Aiyuk or Ja’Marr Chase will miss Week 1 5:15 - The Dolphins will win the AFC East 8:30 - We’re not talking about the Seahawks enough 13:00 - Spencer Rattler will be Saints’ QB1 by Halloween 18:00 - Drake Maye won’t let the Patriots have the worst record this season 22:00 - The Eagles will reach the NFC Conference Championship Game 25:00 - A 2023 last-place team will win a playoff game 28:45 - This is the last year of the 49ers’ Super Bowl window FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 2:30 - Daniel Jones will have a better year than Aaron Rodgers 5:00 - The NFC East is only getting one playoff team 7:30 - Nobody will win more than 12 games this season 11:00 - Three QBs in their 1st or 2nd season will make the playoffs 15:00 - The Patriots should start Drake Maye Week 1 19:45 - The Bills are going to miss the playoffs 23:30 - A quarterback will throw for 4,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards this season 28:30 - The Falcons will be the 1-seed in the NFC 32:15 - Russell Wilson will be a Top 10 QB this season 36:00 – If Mahomes 3-peats this year he passes Tom Brady as G.O.A.T. QB   FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 3:00 - Justin Fields will start Week 1 for the Steelers 7:00 - Two of the QBs who signed monster contracts this summer will miss the playoffs 9:45 - Mike Evan will regret not signing with the Chiefs or Texans 13:30 - Jordan Love will finish higher in MVP voting than Aaron Rodgers 18:45 - Xavier Worthy + Hollywood Brown will be the best WR duo in 2024 21:30 - CeeDee Lamb and Dak shouldn’t play a down without a new contract 25:45 - Josh Allen is the most underrated QB in the NFL 29:30 - If Deebo Samuel returns kickoffs he’ll set a record for return TDs   FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 2:30 - Half of the teams in Rich’s Top 10 June Power Rankings will miss the playoffs 6:15 - Bears receivers will have the most TD catches in NFL this season 10:15 - Browns will have AFC North’s best offense with new OC Ken Dorsey 12:45 - The Giants won’t finish last in the NFC East 20:35 - The Dolphins will end their 24-year playoff win drought 24:15 - The Falcons will be a Top-5 scoring team in the NFL 27:45 - Gardner Minshew will take the Raiders to the playoffs 30:45 - Someone other than the Chiefs/Ravens will be the AFC’s #1 seed 33:00 - Mike Tomlin won’t see the end of his latest contract extension   FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 1:00 -   The Chiefs are starting the season 0-3 3:40 -   The Jaguars should make Trevor Lawrence prove it before giving him $50M/year 7:15 -   The Patriots will have a top3 pick again in 2025 10:00 - Brian Burns and Kayvon Thibodeaux will set the sack record for teammates 13:20   Deshaun Watson is the QB under the most pressure this season 20:40   The Rams are playing with fire by not giving Stafford a new deal 24:10   Mike McDaniel is on the hottest seat heading into the 2024 season 28:30   Jordan Love will finish in the top 5 in the MVP race 29:20   At least two NFL teams will go from worst to first 31:10   What is the NFL doing giving the Jets 6 primetime games??? FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 2:30  -   The Bears will play a primetime game in Week 1 5:55 -  The AFC Championship Game is going back to KC this season 7:30 -  Despite offseason inaction the Cowboys will be 1st NFC East repeat champs in 20 years 10:00 - No matter who’s the QB, the Falcons will be the 1-seed in the NFC 14:10 - Jim Harbaugh will have the Chargers in the Super Bowl in next 3 years 17:20 - One of the 1st-round WRs will break Puka Nacua’s rookie yards record 19:15 - The Giants screwed up not taking a QB 6th overall 22:10 - Half of the 1st-round QBs will make the playoffs 24:40 - Kyler-to-Marvin will be the most prolific QB/WR duo this year 27:25 - We WILL see Tom Brady in a Raiders uniform this season 30:00 - Carson Beck will be the #1 overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A == Please check out other RES productions: The Rich Eisen Show: http://apple.co/richeisenshow  What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: http://apple.co/whatthefootball Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 3:15 -   Six QBs will be drafted in the 1st Round 5:55 - JJ McCarthy will be drafted higher than we all think 07:20 - The Patriots should pass on Jayden Daniels if Drake Maye goes 2nd 11:50 - The Bills should trade for Brandon Aiyuk and keep Super Bowl window open 14:05 - The Cowboys will make everyone’s “all-in” jokes look stupid next season 18:00 - The Eagles and Howie Roseman will do something mind-blowing 19:50 - A mystery team will trade up that we all didn’t see coming 22:30 - Teams are going to regret passing on Michael Penix Jr. 26:40 - The NFL should move the Draft up a month and start Free Agency in April 30:00 – Zach Wilson is taking the Broncos to the playoffs next season Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics: 2:00 - Kirk Cousins + loaded offense = Falcons serious NFC contenders 5:50 - Justin Fields will not be a starting QB next season 10:30 - AFC East will only get one playoff team next season 13:20 - Saquon will out-rush the leading RB from rest of NFC East teams combined 17:00 - Packers are the team to beat in the NFC North 20:45 - Derrick Henry will break NFL’s single season rushing record with Ravens 23:15 - The Texans will be the Chiefs’ biggest threat in the AFC 25:00 – Dak & McCarthy’s next playoff berth will be with teams other than Cowboys   FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A weekly staple on ‘The Rich Eisen Show’ since 2018, ‘Overreaction Monday’ is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today’s topics:  3:15 - Five QBs will be drafted in the top 20 6:00 - Xavier Worthy is a 1st Round lock after his Combine record 40 8:00 - Marvin Harrison Jr. won’t be the first WR drafted 12:30 - Caleb/Rome Odunze could be a top 5 QB/WR combo next season 17:15 - Kirk Cousins won’t be a Viking next season 21:00 - Steelers would be insane to run it back with Pickett/Rudolph next season 24:45 - The Onside Kick should be a 4th & Whatever play 29:00 - It would be a mistake to expand to 18 regular season games FOLLOW US HERE: Apple: http://apple.co/overreactionmonday Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5w2ZpmA1JsDQfMZVXbFE6A Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices