Paid 2 Draw – An Illustration Podcast

Paid 2 Draw is a new podcast about the business side of illustration hosted by Viktoria Cichoń and David Leutert—two freelance illustrators based in and around Berlin. They interview inspiring creatives about how they make a living doing what they love.

34. Studio MUTI and the Power of Versatility

This week we talk to two of the three founders of Studio MUTI, a Cape Town-based creative studio. Miné Day and Brad Hodgskiss share their journey from starting a small illustration studio in 2011 to now managing a vibrant team of 18 creatives with a diverse range of styles and skills — from animation and lettering to icons and digital painting. Versatility is one of MUTI’s strongest assets. By sharing knowledge, communicating on eye level and a mutual sense of curiosity, they keep on pushing stylistic boundaries and continuously challenge themselves to sustain a shared excitement for the craft. Throughout our conversation, Brad and Miné discuss the difficulties of maintaining artistic versatility, the importance of collaboration, and the balance between creative work and management responsibilities. Their shared understanding of creative problem solving is to aspire to always create the kind of work they can be proud of and that is worthy of landing a spot in their pristine portfolio. Our conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing creative freedom with financial stability, the dynamics of working in a team with diverse specializations, and the excitement surrounding upcoming projects and events. Listen, learn and share this episode with all your illustration friends! And while you’re at it: Sign up to Studio MUTI’s online session & workshop at Creative Works East on October 2nd and 4th, 2025. _________FOLLOW MUTI: Website: studiomuti.co.zaInstagram: @studiomutiDribbble: dribbble.com/studioMUTI_________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram, Spotify and TikTok. _________Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff.

09-22
01:24:49

33. Angela Kirkwood Rediscovered Her Passion for Animation During Covid

Based in Glasgow, Angela Kirkwood is an illustrator and animator known for her whimsical, topsy-turvy worlds filled with expressive characters that inspire joy and curiosity. Having worked for clients like Adult Swim, Nike and The New York Times, her work is characterized by a unique DIY aesthetic that evokes nostalgia for childhood cartoons. Angela transitioned from a career in graphic design during the pandemic to pursuing animation and illustration full-time. In this episode, Angela emphasizes the value of seeking inspiration beyond the screen. She shares how stepping away from the computer and immersing herself in real-life experiences fuels her creativity and helps avoid repetition. Angela believes that seeking out inspiration off-line allows for a more personal touch in her work, helping her create authentic art that resonates deeply with audiences. Angela's approach to character design is both intuitive and intentional, capturing the essence of human emotion in a playful and engaging way. She draws inspiration from everyday interactions, infusing her characters with a sense of joy and underlying complexity. Her characters—although often simple in form—are designed to be easily animated, allowing their personalities to shine through in motion. She also discusses the importance of community support, the impact of AI on jobs, and why life is hard, but reality TV helps. Listen, learn and stop asking for permission to be your own weird, authentic self. _________MENTIONED LINKS: • University of Dundee: BDes Illustration • “The Animator’s Survival Kit” by Richard Williams • Norman McLaren (Scottish-Canadian animator) • “Quasi at the Quackadero” (1976) by Sally Cruikshank • Priit Pärn (Estonian cartoonist & animation director) • Bravo TV _________FOLLOW ANGELA: Instagram: @angelakirkwood Website: angelakirkwood.com Shop: angelakirkwood.com/shop _________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram, Spotify and TikTok. _________Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff.

09-03
01:22:36

32. Brett Stenson — Finding Balance in Art and Life

By popular demand, we finally talked to Brett Stenson from Portland, Oregon. Brett is a multi-disciplinary artist, illustrator and Senior Art Director at Young Jerks. Heavily influenced by forgotten ephemera from bygone eras, Brett’s work reflects a deep connection to the natural world and explores the delicate balance between nature and human existence. In this episode, Brett tells us how the ability to get lost in creating something can feel like an advantage during difficult times. He shares insights into his creative journey — from his early days in Wisconsin to working at Jolby & Friends — and we get a detailed description of his wood-carving process and daily routines, despite dark days and buggy video calls. Throughout the conversation, Brett emphasizes the need for balance in life, the importance of working with a supportive team and how developing his style was a natural process influenced by experiences. We also touch on topics like mentorships, mental health and Midwestern work ethics. And we almost uncover where the milk comes from. Almost. Don’t miss this front-row seat into Brett’s biome! 🧠 And make sure to tell all your design friends about it. Subscribe to stay updated on future convos with other talented artists. _________MENTIONED LINKS: • Milwaukee Institute of Art & Design (MIAD): Product Design Major • Jolby (Portland-based creative studio) • The Dans: Dan Cassaro & Dan Christofferson • Ed “Big Daddy” Roth • Richard Scarry • Nucleus Gallery in Portland • Kelly Thorn (Sr. Art Director at Young Jerks) • “Desperate Oasis” from Weast Coast Games • 'Jimmy Kimmel Live' logo by House Industries • Brett’s Prosperous Innkeeper card for Secret Lair / Magic: The Gathering _________FOLLOW BRETT: Instagram: @brettpstenson Website: brettstenson.com Shop: brettstenson.bigcartel.com YJ Instagram: @youngjerks YJ Website: youngjerks.com _________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok. _________Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

08-19
01:31:26

31. Raman Djafari on Navigating the Animation Industry (Live at The Boys Club Berlin)

Raman Djafari is a Berlin-based illustrator, animator and filmmaker who has created visuals for some of the biggest musicians and brands, including Elton John, Dua Lipa, Coldplay, Adult Swim, The New Yorker and Spotify. Their award-winning “Cold Heart” music video was beamed across the world during Elton John’s Glastonbury performance and has been viewed over 600 million times on YouTube. Currently, Raman is represented as a director by the London-based production studio BlinkInk. Animation is a labor of love. This week, Raman takes us on a deep dive into navigating the animation industry — and shares their love for the craft and the community. With a background in illustration and design, Raman ventured into animation, filmmaking and music videos, expanding his practice and toolset with each project. Transitioning fluently from 2D to 3D animation, they create surreal worlds and characters that transcend all norms and oscillate between the familiar and the fantastical. In this episode, Raman explores the role of artists in envisioning alternative realities through their work. They emphasize the need for fair compensation and the importance of collective action to overcome current labor rights issues in the animation industry. Raman also reflects on his own creative process, the significance of keeping a sketchbook, and the challenges of pursuing personal projects while navigating commercial demands. Don’t miss this intimate conversation with one of the most innovative artists and filmmakers of our time, live-recorded at The Boys Club in Berlin on June 23rd, 2025. _________MENTIONED LINKS: • HTW Berlin: BA Game Design • HAW Hamburg: MA Illustration • Annecy Animation Festival • Artists/Animators: Bobby Chiu, Niki Lindroth von Bahr, Jack Zhang, TOKAY, Daniel Almagor, Haneen Koraz • Directors: Wim Wenders, Andrei Tarkovsky, Alice Rohrwacher • Painters: Cecily Brown, Dana Schutz, Jordan Kasey, Sasha Gordon • Authors: Ottessa Moshfegh, Ocean Vuong • Music videos:“feelslikeimfallinginlove” by Coldplay, “Cold Heart (PNAU Remix)” by Elton John & Dua Lipa, “Pamphlets” by Squid, “Worms” by Ashnikko, “Snow” by FJAAK • BlinkInk (world-class, London-based production studio) • Blender 3D • TVPaint (2D animation software) • Thanks to The Boys Club Berlin for hosting! _________FOLLOW RAMAN: Instagram: @ramandjafariFacebook: ramandjafariartworkTumblr: ramandjafari.tumblr.comWebsite: ramandjafari.comAgency site: blinkink.co.uk/directors/raman-djafari_________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram, Spotify and TikTok. _________Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

07-16
01:41:59

30. Yuko Shimizu’s Journey from PR to Illustration

In this episode, we talk to award-winning Japanese illustrator Yuko Shimizu (清水裕子) about her journey from quitting a career in corporate PR to becoming a successful artist and educator—highlighting all the challenges and triumphs along the way. Our conversation touches on the importance of self-promotion, how to deal with imposter syndrome, and the role of art education in shaping an artist’s career. Instead of fixating on what she can’t affect, Yuko focuses on the things she can control. All we can do as illustrators at any given time is to create the best work within our capabilities—the rest is out of our hands. With over 20 years of experience, Yuko shares valuable insights on finding your unique artistic voice, the significance of mental health in creativity, and the importance of giving back to the community. Working in this field is all about learning to deal with disappointments. Rejection is a normal part of the creative journey and shouldn’t be taken too seriously. This episode is a treasure trove of advice for both aspiring illustrators and seasoned professionals alike. Yuko shares useful tips on how to navigate the creative industry. She emphasizes the need for artists to be genuine, to share knowledge, and to navigate their careers with honesty and humility. _________MENTIONED LINKS: • Artists: Christoph Niemann, James Jean, Marshall Arisman, Minh Uong, Tomer Hanuka, Shepard Fairey, Marcos Chin, SHOUT (Alessandro Gottardo), David Sandlin, Gary Panter, Chip Kidd • Waseda University in Tokyo, Japan • SVA MFA Illustration as Visual Essay • NYT email format: firstname.lastname@nytimes.com • Yuko’s FAQ page • Thanks to Ari Liloan (aka @madeby_ari) for the thoughtful questions. _________FOLLOW YUKO: Instagram: @yukoartBehance: be.net/yukoFacebook: fb.com/pages/Yuko-ShimizuWebsite: yukoart.comShop: yukoart.bigcartel.comYuko’s Skillshare courses Books: “The Cat Man of Aleppo”, “Up, Up, Ever Up!”, “Barbed Wire Baseball” _________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram, Spotify and TikTok. _________Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

06-26
02:14:54

29. Carina Lindmeier: Community Over Competition

Carina Lindmeier is an award-winning illustrator from Austria with a unique style blending playful and figurative elements, rich with textures, colors and patterns. Drawing inspiration from everyday life, pop culture and the culinary world, her goal is to uplift and evoke emotions through her art. Her passion for drawing food and still lives has enabled her to work with the likes of Adobe, Bombay Sapphire, The Wall Street Journal or Penguin Random House. On the episode, we talk to Carina about her journey into illustration, the evolution of her artistic style, and the importance of community and collaboration in the creative field. By leading workshops and sharing knowledge, Carina strives to empower the next generation of creatives. Running your own art studio can be quite challenging, so sometimes it’s good to know you’re not in it all by yourself. Support and encouragement are the corner stones of every successful art business. Sometimes it just takes one person to guide you in the right direction when you’re feeling stuck. Carina shares her passion for mentoring emerging artists and the significance of giving back to the creative community. We also discuss the challenges of rejection, the future of illustration in the face of gen-AI, and the best way to ignore pesty song requests during your DJ set. _________MENTIONED LINKS: • ⁠Kyle’s Brushes⁠ • ⁠Still Here Still Life⁠ • AOI (Association of Illustrators) ⁠Mentorships 2025⁠ • ⁠OFFF⁠ in Barcelona & ⁠Pictoplasma⁠ in Berlin • ⁠Adobe Firefly⁠ _________FOLLOW CARINA: Instagram: ⁠@carinalindmeier⁠Website: ⁠carinalindmeier.com⁠Behance: ⁠be.net/carinalindmeier⁠LinkedIn: ⁠linkedin.com/in/carina-lindmeier-70966763⁠⁠Subscribe⁠ to Carina’s newsletter (via PencilBooth) Carina’s Domestika Course: ⁠Illustrated Portraits: Adobe Fresco for Beginners⁠ _________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠Spotify⁠ and ⁠TikTok⁠. _________Hosted by ⁠Vicky Cichoń⁠ and ⁠Dave Leutert⁠. Music by ⁠Amanda Deff⁠. 

06-18
01:20:52

28. Lisa Tegtmeier on the Evolution of Style

Lisa Tegtmeier is a Hamburg-based illustrator who’s known for bold characters, vibrant colors and energetic compositions. Inspired by nostalgic color palettes from the 60s to the 90s, Lisa creates worlds filled with optimism and empowerment. What her characters are lacking in eyes and noses, they wholly make up for in personality. “Emotion comes through movement,” she says “You can express so much through gestures.” On this week’s episode, Lisa talks to us about how her style has evolved over the years and why it’s important for illustrators to find their niche. She explains how to develop your own voice through experimentation and self-expression, encourages artists to dodge perfectionism and share their work, and—most importantly—to just keep creating. Lisa also shares openly about burnout, mental health and the pressure of keeping up. Freelance life can be quite hectic, so it’s nice to touch grass every now and then. Other topics include: embracing imperfection, developing healthy habits, the human touch in art, and the joy of doing nothing. We hope you enjoy this conversation like a sparrow in a puddle! _________MENTIONED LINKS: • Cowgirl boot-shaped mug • HAW Hamburg: B.A. Illustration / M.A. Illustration • Abstract – The Art of Design: “Paula Scher: Graphic Design” (S01E06) on Netflix _________FOLLOW LISA: Website: lisategtmeier.comShop: lisategtmeier.com/shopInstagram: @lisategtmeierThreads: @lisategtmeierLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lisa-tegtmeierBehance: be.net/lisategtmeierTikTok: @lisategtmeier_________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow @Paid2DrawPodcast on Instagram, Spotify and TikTok. _________Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

06-03
01:27:01

27. Ximena Jiménez Creates Striking Murals with Spray Paint

For the season 4 premiere we talk to lettering legend and muralist Ximena Jiménez. Born in Cali, Colombia, she moved to Argentina in 2014 to study graphic design in Buenos Aires where she fell in love with hand-lettering. Today she creates lettering for brands, paints murals for cafés and restaurants, gives workshops across the globe, and live-paints on jackets at festivals. Her lettering work is raw, dynamic, expressive and immediate while effortlessly conveying important messages about equality, self-care and mental health. After moving to Bogotá—one of the graffiti capitals of the world—she discovered street art and started experimenting with spray cans. Ximena explains how the city has influenced her work as a muralist and gives us a detailed description of her process of creating her signature large-scale, hand-lettered murals using spray paint. Hint: “caps” and “cutting” are a thing, apparently. Throughout the conversation Ximena reflects on the importance of political and personal messages in her art and how she has gained more confidence through therapy and self-reflection. She describes the balance between personal and political art and the value of giving herself permission to take risks. Lastly, Ximena generously shares her social media strategy of focusing on her community rather than viral content to maintain her artistic integrity. Go check out this engaging conversation with one of the best letterers of our time and make sure to tell all your type-obsessed friends about it! _________MENTIONED LINKS: • Berlin Letters Festival • University of Buenos Aires: Faculty of Architecture, Design and Urbanism • Fileteado Porteño (Argentinian sign-painting style) • Bogotá Graffiti Tour • LetterWest 2026 • Circus Network (Gallery from Porto, Portugal) _________FOLLOW XIMENA: Instagram: @jimenezletteringTikTok: @jimenezletteringWebsite: jimenezlettering.comOnline Shop: jimenezlettering.com/tienda_________If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok. _________Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

05-21
01:33:00

26. YONK Pushes Boundaries In Virtual Reality (Live at Pictoplasma Berlin 2024)

YONK is a Dutch 3D animation studio consisting of artistic power couple Victoria Young and Niels van der Donk. Coming from different backgrounds like fine art and graphic design they decided early on to combine their individual skills to create 3D work. Since 2019 they specialize in using Virtual Reality and 3D sculpting tools to create uniquely strange, textured and colorful artworks, animations and character designs for an increasingly international client list such as Google, Sprite, Nike, Amazon and The New York Times, but also just for the sake of creating and having fun experimenting.  In this episode they take us into their world and explain how sculpting 3D figures in virtual reality is more intuitive and less technical than the traditional way with a keyboard and mouse. Working in VR has led to quicker results and helped them discover their unique style. By embracing the explorer’s mindset they experiment in a way where everything is allowed and create a body of work by describing their nightmares to each other.  They generously share how their style gradually developed by not knowing how to do things “properly” and how they made a conscious decision to leave the imperfections and happy accidents in their work to give it a more organic feel. While collaborating they acknowledge each other’s strengths and try to involve each other throughout the whole process to create a cohesive result.  Even though their work is mostly created in VR it can be transferred to many other mediums and be experienced by everyone as an animated video, a 3D print or traditional 2D image. But their activities are not only limited to making art — they also develop tools to solve specific problems within the sculpting or animation programs and share them with the growing VR and 3D sculpting community.  It was that constant sharing of their personal work on Instagram that has caught the attention of potential clients who want be a part of their exciting experiences and set their mark in the VR space. To YONK, client work not only poses creative challenges, but also requires them to incorporate some planning and organizing into their process while still keeping it as intuitive and natural as possible.  _________ MENTIONED LINKS:  • Adobe Medium • Substance 3D Modeler (by Adobe) • Joseph Melhuish • Meta Quest Pro • YONK & Friends (live stream) • Christopher Rutledge • Blender (open-source 3D & animation software) • Step Motion on Blender Market • WarpySTEP v1.2 for Blender (by Will Anderson) • Grease Pencil Resources for Blender • Geometry Nodes for Blender • Dédouze • Other 3D software: Cinema 4D, Houdini, ZBrush, Maya  _________ FOLLOW YONK:  Instagram: @yonk.online Website: yonk.online YouTube: YONK TikTok: @yonk.online Twitch: yonkonline Threads: @yonk.online Twitter: x.com/yonkonline _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. Assistance by Diana Lazaru.  _________ This interview was recorded on May 5th, 2024, during the 20th annual Pictoplasma Conference at silent green in Berlin. Each spring, Pictoplasma transforms the city into an international meeting point for a diverse scene of artists and creatives, trailblazing the face of tomorrow’s visual culture. The central conference brings together 900 key players on a global scale and features 20+ lectures by forward-thinking creatives. The accompanying animation screenings showcase cutting edge short films, with most of the filmmakers present in Q&A rounds. The character lab offers hands-on workshops, immersive media demos, panels and networking. Get your tickets for Pictoplasma Berlin 2025 (May 1st–4th).

01-21
51:01

25. Martina Paukova Finds Growth in Complexity (Live at Pictoplasma Berlin 2024)

Slovak illustrator Martina Paukova has come a long way from originally studying politics to completely switching gears and moving to London — studying at Camberwell College of Arts — to now settling in Berlin. On her path, she developed a distinct style marked by her trademark vector lines, bold color palettes and flat character-driven subject matters, allowing her to accumulate an impressive client list spanning from Google, Apple and The New York Times to IKEA, The Economist, Die Zeit, and many more.  Starting out in the illustration world as a “late bloomer” in her mid 20s, Martina relied on three different ways to land her first clients: University connections, referrals from previous industry projects and competitions (a.k.a. self initiated work).  She explains how one job led to another and how having a set of recurring clients can bring financial stability to one’s career, but can also lead to stagnation and hindering growth. As clients usually hire based on previous work to ensure a safe outcome, it is easy for artists to get stuck in the hamster wheel of repetition.  Martina also points out the importance of not relying on a single way of finding clients (like an agent or referrals or one social media platform) and that as professional freelance illustrators we must be our own agency and find ways to motivate ourselves to grow both creatively and as a business. Even though life tends to get in the way and time for personal development is limited, Martina wants to keep experimenting — dabbling in 3D and textile illustration; maybe even knitting or sewing quilts — to keep herself and her clients excited for what’s to come.  We are definitely excited about Martina’s path to becoming a professional illustrator, just as much as her useful industry insights and hilarious anecdotes like the one where she lost her Apple Pencil on the day of a deadline. _________ MENTIONED LINKS:  • Reps: Agent Pekka & Making Pictures • Camberwell College of Arts • Illustrator on the iPad  _________ FOLLOW MARTINA:  Instagram: @martinapaukova Website: martinapaukova.com LinkedIn: Martina Paukova Twitter: x.com/martinapaukova _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. Assistance by Diana Lazaru.  _________ This interview was recorded on May 5th, 2024, during the 20th annual Pictoplasma Conference at silent green in Berlin. Each spring, Pictoplasma transforms the city into an international meeting point for a diverse scene of artists and creatives, trailblazing the face of tomorrow’s visual culture. The central conference brings together 900 key players on a global scale and features 20+ lectures by forward-thinking creatives. The accompanying animation screenings showcase cutting edge short films, with most of the filmmakers present in Q&A rounds. The character lab offers hands-on workshops, immersive media demos, panels and networking.  Get your tickets for Pictoplasma Berlin 2025 (May 1st–4th).

01-07
45:36

24. Julia Rothman’s Drawings Appear On Literally Everything

Julia Rothman is an award-winning illustrator, pattern maker, NYT columnist and party motivator from New York. Her drawings appear on a variety of things, from newspapers and magazines to posters and billboards, wallpapers, bedding, towels, apparel, mugs and other merchandise. Julia has authored and illustrated over twelve books and has an illustrated column in the New York Times called “Scratch” about small businesses with big personalities.  A lot of her projects were self-initiated. Julia just reaches out to people she wants to work with. She enjoys having a variety of projects at the same time and a lot of them are found by proactively pitching ideas. Many artists may not know this, she says, but she encourages everyone to just take a leap and contact prospective clients. You never know who might need your art.  Julia likes to maintain a regular drawing practice. She always keeps a sketch pad around and can be found doodling most of the time. Sometimes she draws with friends and other times she just draws to stay busy. If she hasn’t drawn for a while, she feels a certain sense of discomfort. She regularly attends drawing nights, meets up with other artists and has co-founded Women Who Draw, an open directory of female* professional illustrators, artists and cartoonists.  On this episode we dive deep into how Julia found her way into the illustration world, what teaching at RISD and SVA has taught her, the benefits of starting the year with a More/Less list, and why you shouldn’t be afraid of bad drawings. She even shares the backstory of how she became a professional party motivator. Such a fun and informative conversation with one of the most prolific illustrators of our time!  _________ MENTIONED LINKS:  • Women Who Draw: an open directory of female professional illustrators • Ladies Drawing Night: a female-only (trans-inclusive) drink and draw • “Scratch”: Julia Rothman & Shaina Feinberg’s New York Times column • The Anatomy Series: The Julia Rothman Collection • “Every Body – An Honest and Open Look at Sex from Every Angle”, Julia Rothman & Shaina Feinberg • Julia’s wallpapers at Hygge & West • Skillshare course: “How to Make A Repeat Pattern with Julia Rothman” • Purchase Julia’s books on Indiebound • Matt Dorfman: art director of the NYT Book Review • Lynda Barry’s “Making Comics” • Vogue article about Julia’s More/Less lists  _________ FOLLOW JULIA:  Instagram: @juliarothmanWebsite: juliarothman.comTwitter: x.com/juliarothmanPatreon: patreon.com/juliarothman HIRE JULIA: juliaaprilrothman@gmail.com _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. _________ Berlin Letters Festival: Come to our live interview with Ximena Jiménez on Sunday, July 7th, at ~1:15pm at silent green in Berlin! ✨ There are also various workshops available during Berlin Letters, even for non-ticket holders. You can find a workshop overview right here. 

06-20
01:11:39

23. Aliyah Salmon Dismantles Stereotypes About Black Femininity With Yarn

Aliyah Salmon is a tactile artist based out of Brooklyn, NY. Her art explores the intricate crossroads of black femininity and the Afro-Caribbean diaspora in contemporary America. Through textiles and collage, her work challenges and reframes simplistic narratives surrounding Black identity. Using traditional textile methods like hand tufting with an Oxford punch needle and bead embroidery alongside modern materials and collage techniques, Aliyah embraces “slow craft” to construct dream-like compositions.  On this episode, Aliyah talks about how she enjoys exploring techniques and materials through 3 different sketchbooks — writing notes, trying out colors with markers and sampling yarn. She loves the process and all the work that goes into making a composition and a piece look good. But more than anything she loves playing with color.  In the digital age it’s important to Aliyah to feel a connection to her work. Understanding how to use your hands to make things, she says, is a skill that everyone should have. Because making stuff with your own two hands is a very grounding experience.  Aliyah embraces pieces she sees as “bad work,” because to her they’re the foundation of the really good ones. No artist creates a hit every time they pick up a pencil. People tend to get discouraged too easily by perceived mistakes, but to Aliyah they’re a gateway to the good stuff. In a way she enjoys being frustrated and challenged, so she encourages everyone to keep making bad work.  _________ FOLLOW ALIYAH:  Instagram: @tyrabanks_officialWebsite: aliyahsalmon.comTikTok: @aliyahsalmon HIRE ALIYAH: aliyah.d.salmon@gmail.com _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff.

06-05
01:07:30

22. Aaron Draplin is Grateful As Sh*t To Be A Creative

Aaron Draplin is on the show this week, giving us a lesson in gratitude. His advice to listeners: “Be thankful as sh*t that you get to be a creative person.” Showing up and getting the job done builds confidence. Or at the very least, it gives you a better understanding of your own creative process.  Aaron is the founder of DDC, Draplin Design Company. With his signature bold lines and colorful illustration style he’s worked for clients ranging from small indie bands to Nike, Patagonia, Target and USPS. When he’s not working from his backyard in Portland he’s out on the open road with his wife Leigh in their iconic orange van, giving talks and workshops about design, typography and illustration.  On this episode Draplin shares some valuable lessons he’s learned after 20 years of freelancing. Don’t quit your job until you’re financially stable enough to take the leap. He says: “If you have a sucky job, do your sucky job and then get home and have fun. And it’ll tip at some point. Like it did for me.”  He talks about his humble beginnings, growing up in Michigan, buying his first computer in Alaska in 1996, moving out West to work at Snowboarder Magazine, and ultimately ending up in Oregon and going freelance in 2004. His Midwestern roots and down-to-earth sensibility shine through in every facet of his career — all the way to his popular side venture, Field Notes memo books.  Aaron generously shares advice on how to make your own stuff, the power of slowing down, giving back and helping other people. We even get to collectively geek out about Dinosaur Jr and he plays us an acoustic version of “Little Fury Things.” And then, towards the end, we go extra deep and talk about where we go when we die. Good times all-around, folks! Another episode of your favorite illustration podcast that’s jam-packed with lil nuggets of wisdom from one of the hardest-working individuals in graphic design.  _________ FOLLOW AARON:  Instagram: @draplinWebsite: draplin.comField Notes: fieldnotesbrand.comDDC Book: ddcbook.comDDC Fonts: ddcfonts.com_________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

05-21
01:36:54

21. Cymone Wilder’s Perfectly Imperfect Painting Process

Cymone Wilder is a full-time Senior Art Director and lettering artist based in Nashville, TN. Since 2013 she has collaborated with clients like HBO Max, Nickelodeon, and Netflix, creating custom lettering artwork for established brands, books, apparel, and more. She is fiercely passionate about producing meaningful and long-lasting work, drawing inspiration from the black experience.  On this episode, Cymone generously shares her wealth of knowledge with the P2D community. She just wants to show people: It’s not as hard as it seems. And she’s no longer bothered by copy cats, because they could never replicate the heart and soul that goes into her work. After all, we’re all individuals with different life experiences.  Cymone also shares her perfectly imperfect painting process, why she began working on canvas and what tools she uses to create her personal projects. Whether she starts with a fully fleshed-out sketch or it turns into more of a trial-and-error approach, she always ends up making something she enjoys. Sometimes she uses sandpaper or a steel brush to add texture and other times she scrapes the wood with the metal ridge from a tape dispenser. With every painting, she says, the process has been different.  Find out why Cymone uses her skill and voice for political messages, how she collaborates with her brother Cedric, and why you should never serve her soup as a main course on this brand-new episode of Paid 2 Draw.  _________ MENTIONED LINKS:  • Cedric Wilder (Cymone’s brother) • co-loop (collaborative artist management agency) • Vincent de Beur • Hoodzpah sisters (Amy & Jen Hood) • Eric Stefanski • Netflix x Target: Stranger Things Product Video• Ryan Appleton (Cymone’s agent)  _________ FOLLOW CYMONE:  Instagram: ⁠@simonandmoose⁠ Website: simonandmoose.comPinterest: simonandmooseAgency Site: co-loop.co/cymone-wilder HIRE CYMONE: hello@simonandmoose.com _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

04-23
01:00:32

20. Marte on the Power of Being Your Own Union

Martina Galarza, aka Marte, is an Argentinian graphic designer and lettering artist based in New York. Inspired by cartoons, graffiti and psychedelia, she’s all about infusing fun and vibrancy into her designs—creating a perfect blend of nostalgia and contemporary cool. In this very personal conversation, Marte opens up about how she had to change her life to avoid burnout and made a point to enjoy weekends and vacations in order to be happy.  Her favorite medium to design for is the poster. She loves how it interacts with the environment, how it changes it, fades and gets torn away. And how it can have an actual impact on an event’s turnout. Starting out by making gig posters for her friends’ bands, she now gets to create work for big-time artists like Paul McCartney, Arctic Monkeys and the Red Hot Chili Peppers.  Even though Adobe Illustrator is Marte’s go-to software, she always approaches every project by drawing with a pencil on paper. Because for her it’s important to be in touch with the material. On this episode Marte shares with us her entire process from rough sketch to finished artwork.  Find out how to create striking posters, why nothing really matters and what rocks have to do with all of it on the latest episode of P2D!  _________ SHOW NOTES:  • Marte’s Domestika course: “Creative Poster Design for Events” • YaniGuille&Co. (Yani Arabena & Guille Vizzari) • Angela Kirkwood • Fileteado Porteño (traditional Argentinian painting technique) • Jim Parkinson • Ken Barber & Andy Cruz (House Industries) • Type@Cooper (post­graduate certificate programs in type design at Cooper Union)• “Milton Glaser: POP”, by Steven Heller, Mirko Ilić & Beth Kleber • TDC Ascenders Competition • Young Guns 21  _________ FOLLOW MARTE:  Instagram: @marte_______Behance: be.net/martevisualWebsite: martevisual.com HIRE MARTE: hola@martevisual.com _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

04-09
01:18:42

19. Florian Schommer: From Touring With Bands to Drawing For Brands

Florian Schommer is an art director and designer working within branding, illustration, editorial design, packaging and contemporary art. Dividing his time between personal projects and collaborating with international clients like Pepsi, Nike, Penguin, Sony Music, Columbia Records and The Guardian, Florian now lives and works in Berlin.  Growing up in the skate and punk scene of the ‘90s, he later attended art college in Düsseldorf while constantly touring the world with a variety of bands. Doing design work for bands during his studies gave him a reason to show his work and make a name for himself. Florian shares how a break-through project for Jägermeister lead to him dropping out of grad school in Hamburg to pursue a full-time career as a freelance creative.  He’s basically had a professional career before his career as an illustrator. Playing in touring bands back in the day has taught him how to navigate an independent creative business today. Art directing record covers and having a booking agent are very similar to working with an illustration agency.  On this week’s episode, Florian also discusses the importance of talking about prices. Because somehow we were all tricked into believing that talking about money is rude. If you’re unsure about how to price a project, don’t be afraid to reach out to your colleagues. Talk to your peers and don’t let clients rip you off.  Now go ahead and listen to this super inspiring conversation with Florian and tell all your illustration friends about it. We’re trying to build a community here!  _________ SHOW NOTES:  • Album art for “Joy Is The Only Treat” by Client • Some Form (3D studio in Berlin-Kreuzberg)• Kjosk (Florian’s old studio in Hamburg) _________ FOLLOW FLORIAN:  Instagram: @florian.schommerBehance: be.net/schommerWebsite: florianschommer.com HIRE FLORIAN: hello@florianschommer.com _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

03-27
01:23:02

18. Ju Mu is Inspired by the Creative Genius of Indigenous Communities

Jurena Munõz Lagunas, aka Ju Mu, is a multi-faceted artist based in Berlin with Peruvian-Chilean roots. Born in Hannover, Germany, she studied Fashion Design in Palma de Mallorca where she developed a fascination for surreal creatures and monsters. The cult of shamanism and the connections between humanity, the spirit world and nature are perennial features of her work and serve as inspiration for her colorful masks, canvases and murals.  Deeply impressed by the creative genius of indigenous communities, Ju Mu implements influences from diverse cultures and creates her very own surreal worlds through patterns, colors and whatever tools she can find. Those ancient tales have informed her profound love for storytelling and it’s apparent in all of her artwork — from costumes to sculptures. Ju Mu is a creative powerhouse who never runs out of ideas. If she could, she would realize every spark of inspiration on her own. But art is a collaborative endeavor, so sometimes it’s best to work with people who know more about a certain technique than you do and to learn from them along the way.  In recent years Ju Mu has started embracing the power of sowing seeds. Because in order for your creative career to stand the test of time you have to play the long game. Good work, she says, will always leave a lasting impact.  You can hear all about Ju Mu’s process and inspiration in this inspiring interview with an incredibly unique artist. Thanks for listening!  _________ FOLLOW JU MU:  Instagram: @jumumonsterWebsite: jumumonster.vsble.meShop: jumumonster.bigcartel.com HIRE JU MU: Jurena.mu@gmail.com _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

03-12
45:47

17. Anna Rupprecht on the Struggle of Running Your Own Commercial Art Business

Paid 2 Draw is back with an all-new season! On the first episode, we get to talk to Anna Rupprecht who is an artist and freelance illustrator based in Berlin. Her art reflects the current zeitgeist through clear contours and interesting image dynamics with diverse protagonists of her generation. Since going freelance after graduating from the University of Applied Sciences in Berlin, she has worked with a wide range of international clients like Adidas, Apple, Netflix, the New Yorker, NY Times and Pinterest.  Anna’s hyper-detailed work stands out with bright colors, unusual perspectives, political themes and bizarre fashion elements. But no matter what style you’re working in, she argues, what it all comes down to is a good idea. The most inspiring people for her are interdisciplinary artists who put their creativity first.  Also, creatives should always make time for quiet contemplation. In order to come up with great ideas, Anna says, boredom is an integral part of the creative process. Sometimes you just need to sit around and do nothing.  We talk about all this and so much more on the season premiere of Paid 2 Draw. From losing herself in the process of trying to fit in to phone-induced depression, the pressure of having to be online, using references and being the last true Heelys ambassador, Anna touched on every subject you could think of. Don’t miss this super inspiring chat we had with one of Berlin’s greatest! And then tell all your creative friends about it.  _________ FOLLOW ANNA:  Instagram: @annarupprecht_studioTikTok: @annarupprecht_studioWebsite: annarupprecht.comBehance: be.net/annarupprecht _________ HIRE ANNA: studio.rupprecht@gmail.com _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Vicky Cichoń and Dave Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

02-27
01:09:16

16. Josephine Rais on the Perks and Pitfalls of Freelancing

Josephine Rais is an artist based in Berlin with a main focus on digital illustration. Having a background in product design and a Master’s degree in strategic design, Josephine’s broad skill set allows for a multidisciplinary approach to her illustration work. Being forced to go freelance after not landing an agency job led to her working for clients like Adidas, Apple, Coca-Cola, Samsung and Die Zeit.  Josephine’s favorite subject to draw is people. She loves capturing the raw emotions and unique energy that Berlin has to offer in her dynamic portraits. Playing with distorted perspectives, she creates bold sceneries of every-day life situations and her diverse protagonists appear on products, animated screens and large-scale murals.  Instagram has given her many opportunities and opened doors for her when she first started out, but, she says, it doesn’t support realness. The platform is seeking a portrayal of perfectionism that’s impossible to attain. But as long as we’re all playing along with it, planning our grids and feeding the algorithm, she fears that things probably won’t change.  On the final episode of season 2, Josephine talks about the art of tufting, why German clients tend to be the (surprise!) least friendly, the importance of knowing your limits as a freelancer and saying ‘no’ — and she shares all the secrets behind her vibrant color palettes. Another really inspiring conversation with one of Berlin’s coolest illustrators! Listen, learn and then tell everyone you know about it. 📢 _________ SHOW NOTES:  • Follow Daniel Stuhlpfarrer on Instagram (Type & graphic designer) • Check out Philipp Basler on Instagram (Digital artist & motion designer) • Vicky’s studio: The Boys Club Berlin (A co-working collective of independent designers in Berlin-Neukölln) • Josephine is represented by The Different Folk • Hire Josy: hi@josephinerais.com  _________ FOLLOW JOSEPHINE:  Instagram: @josephineraisWebsite: josephinerais.comBehance: be.net/josephineraisTikTok: @josephinerais _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Viktoria Cichoń and David Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

06-15
01:33:51

15. Dan Christofferson’s Journey from BeeTeeth to Young Jerks

Dan Christofferson is an illustrator and designer from Salt Lake City, currently based in Philadelphia. He’s a partner and creative director at Young Jerks—an independent brand and packaging studio. Growing up out West, Dan’s work has been informed by the religious heritage of his upbringing and the DIY ethos of Utah’s straight-edge hardcore scene.  On this week’s episode, he explains why illustrators and designers should know their worth and acknowledge the value they’re adding to a client’s product. Dan also gives crucial advice on how artists should run their online shops in 2023. He recounts his journey from working at Big Cartel to having his own successful online shop and ultimately moving to the East Coast to start a studio with his friend Dan Cassaro.  Dan talks about how he’s been working his way back to finding a more impulsive, less refined and—as he calls it—“dumber” way to draw. He’s been un-training himself to draw things out of proportion, trying not to balance everything and allowing his kids to influence more of his work.  Such a fun and informative conversation with one of the greatest! Go tell all your friends about it. Then make some shirts about how good this episode was and wear ‘em around town. It’s so easy!  _________ FOLLOW DAN & YOUNG JERKS:  Instagram (Dan): @beeteethWebsite (Dan): beeteeth.com Instagram (YJ): @youngjerks Website (YJ): youngjerks.com HIRE DAN: hello@youngjerks.com BUY “SNAKES OF WRATH”: snakesofwrath.com BUY YOUNG JERKS MERCH: jerkstore.biz Non-alcoholic agave spirits: drinkparch.com Also, check out Arizona artist Joe Sorren’s work. Dan’s nephew Nathan’s streetwear brand: embodystreetwear.com And follow the other moms & dads at YJ: Dan Cassaro, Kelly Thorn, Brett Stenson  _________ If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow Paid 2 Draw on Instagram and TikTok.  _________ Hosted by Viktoria Cichoń and David Leutert. Music by Amanda Deff. 

05-30
01:34:02

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