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Exploring the Struggle before Success
Pay Your Dues with Greg Inglin:
Exploring the Struggle before Success
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Curious what drives the world’s most successful leaders to keep going even when failure seems inevitable? This podcast is a motivational discussion for ambitious leaders, entrepreneurs, and those committed to personal growth. We’ll uncover stories of mental resilience & leadership challenges from athletes, business leaders, and entertainment icons. Whether you’re building a career, seeking redemption stories, or the best motivational podcast for self-improvement, this podcast delivers actionable advice. Subscribe to the podcast for lessons from failure and the motivation to progress forward.
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In this episode of Pay Your Dues, Greg Inglin talks withGeorge Gilder, a prominent American economist, futurist, author, and investor, famous for his influential work on supply-side economics (especially his book Wealth and Poverty) and his insightful analyses of technology's impact, predicting the rise of the internet and blockchain. But did you know that George is also an accomplished runner, who is still putting in the miles at the age of 86 years old? Amazing!George shares his story of how he started running, and whyit is so important to him to this day. Often running six miles per day, George recently finished second in the World Championship 10K for his age division. This inspiring story of perseverance and pure enjoyment for movement will help motivate you in your own life. Guest Resources:The Gilder Technology Report: https://www.gilderreport.com/Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/49124414Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ggilder1 Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on his website or LinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating!Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 The Joy of Coaching and Running03:53 A Lifelong Passion for Running06:38 Staying Active in Winter09:15 Competitive Spirit in Aging12:06 The Connection Between Running and Mental Clarity14:24 Diet and Longevity16:54 Managing Expectations in Running19:27 The Philosophy of Time and Money26:45 The Value of Time as Currency33:23 The Evolution of Technology and Time Management40:06 Predictions and Reflections on Technology46:59 The Impact of AI and Future Technologies54:40 Personal Reflections and Future Aspirations
There are few examples of resilience and perseverance betterthan Anthony Robles. Born with one leg, Robles refused to see limitation. Instead, he saw opportunity – and turned that belief into an NCAA Wrestling Championship Title, a best-selling book, and a major motion picture called Unstoppable.Join Greg Inglin as he looks back at this amazing journey with Anthony, who shares his struggles along the way. How he almost quit in high school and then again in college, only to find hope from a group of third grade students and their letters of encouragement. Anthony’s mom played a big part in his mental fortitude, anddespite their struggles as a family, Anthony managed to navigate some tough situations without a strong father figure in his life.Hollywood loves his story too, as Amazon produced a majormovie where Jennifer Lopez plays his mom, and captures the struggle and the triumph of his journey. This is not a wrestling story…it’s one of faith, perseverance, and a belief despite facing the biggest odds. Guest Resources:Anthony on IG: @arobles125The Book: Unstoppable: From Underdog to UndefeatedThe Movie: Unstoppable on Amazon Prime Gues idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on his website orLinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 The Essence of Wrestling04:11 Overcoming Early Challenges07:10 The Importance of Support Systems10:15 Navigating Crossroads in Life13:12 The Role of Faith and Motivation16:26 Resilience in the Face of Adversity19:07 The Journey to the National Championship22:18 The Power of Perspective25:12 Becoming Unstoppable28:03 Giving Back and Inspiring Others
In the high-stake world of high finance, pressure comes withthe job and can cause many great minds to burnout. Learning how to navigate such a stressful world has led Sebastien Page into a deep study on learning, leadership, and fulfillment. Join Greg Inglin as he explores Sebastien’s book “The Psychology of Leadership” and the practical elements we all can use form his studies.Sebastien is Chief Investment Office at T. Rowe Price,overseeing a team that manages more than $500 Billion in assets. You can often find him on CNBC or Bloomberg TV. Sebastien opens up about his upbringing in Canada, and what he learned from his father who was both a finance professor and a cattle rancher. After a near fatal bout with burnout, Sebastien started to study work cultures and habits that created the best environments. Greg and Sebastien explore the intrinsic motivation and how thinking long term creates short term benefits mentally and physically. Guest Resources:Sebastien on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sebastien-pageSebastien on IG: https://www.instagram.com/sebastienpagebook/About My Guest: Sébastien Page is the Global Multi-AssetDivision's head and Chief Investment Officer at T. Rowe Price. He is an investment professional with extensive experience at firms like PIMCO and State Street Global Markets. Page is also an author of several finance books and articles, and is a frequent commentator on financial media. He has beenwith T. Rowe Price since 2015, where he leads a team that manages over $500 billion in assets. Before joining T. Rowe Price, he held senior positions at PIMCO and State Street Global Markets. Page holds a Master of Science in finance and a Bachelor ofBusiness Administration from Sherbrooke University and is a Chartered Financial Analyst® (CFA) charterholder. He wrote "The Psychology of Leadership" and co-authored "Factor Investing and Asset Allocation" and "Beyond Diversification". He has also co-authored severalaward-winning research papers. Page is a regular on financial media outlets like Bloomberg TV and CNBC. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on his websiteor LinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Growing Up on a Farm: Lessons in Work Ethic04:12 The Psychology of Flow and Engagement07:04 Distraction in Modern Society09:50 The Intentionality of Leadership12:56 The Power of Consistency and Habits16:03 Understanding Leadership through Psychology19:12 The Role of Personality in Leadership21:59 The Journey of Writing a Book24:59 The Importance of Mindset in Performance32:51 The Extrovert-Introvert Leadership Debate35:35 Key Personality Traits for Leadership40:40 The Role of Stress in Performance44:41 Breathing Techniques and Decision Making48:45 Learning from Losses and Building Resilience52:52 The Importance of Meaning and Engagement55:52 Understanding and Preventing Burnout01:01:28 Thinking Long-Term for Leadership Success
In this conversation, Craig Robinson opens up about his pivot from the C-Suite to author, mentor, and advocate for the pursuit of happiness. After attending MIT and Harvard Business School, Craig’s climb up the corporate ladder was impressive and his leadership skills put him at the top of some of the country’s largest real estate firms.However, Craig was seeking fulfillment in other ways that led to a pivot and his desire to take a different path. Craig talks about putting ego aside, seeking personal growth and joy by investing in what mattered to him most: relationships, career, and faith. This self-discovery led to better life balance, mental health, and his desire to research and write a book on happiness.Craig also reflects on his heritage and the impact of his ancestors, highlighting the significance of understanding one's identity. This is a great conversation for those that areseeking change, big or small, and how to curiosity over conviction can open our minds to new possibilities.What you can expect from this episode:How the influence of African American leaders in Atlanta inspired CraigHow education and mentorship played a crucial role in Craig's successWhy Craig's journey was not linear; it was filled with challengesThe importance of nurturing individual talents in childrenEmbracing change and adapting to new opportunities is essential. Fulfillment comes from focusing on purpose,community, and being stretchedHow pursuing a portfolio career can lead to greater balance and joyWhy courage is essential when changing life prioritiesWhy happiness cannot be crowdsourced; it must come from withinHow relationships are key to long-term happiness and healthExamples of how small, intentional changes can lead to greater happinessGuest Resources: www.craigrobinson.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigmrobinson/ Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on his websiteor LinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating!Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Roots in Atlanta: A Journey of Influence02:58 The Power of Education and Mentorship06:01 Understanding Heritage and Identity09:07 Navigating Academic Challenges and Opportunities11:58 The Role of Community and Support14:53 Finding a Path in Real Estate17:51 The Importance of Networking and Seizing Opportunities20:48 Seasons of Career Growth and Leadership24:02 Embracing Leadership and Personal Fulfillment30:23 Finding Your Flow: The Key to Fulfillment31:44 The Courage to Pivot: Embracing Change in Career36:01 Happiness: A Choice or a Discipline?39:39 The Role of Relationships in Happiness48:11 Wrestling with Identity: The Ego's Impact on Happiness51:22 Surprising Insights: What Really Brings Happiness?55:40 Creating Space for Happiness: Small Steps to Big ChangesAbout My Guest: Craig Robinson is an experienced independent board director, c-suite executive and advisor forcommercial real estate, professional services and technology companies. Craig currently serves as an independent director for Lessen, Roofstock, and Second Nature. He is also a Strategic Advisor to Dunes Point Capital, a privateinvestment firm that has invested over $5B in industrial and service companies since 2001. Over the course of his career, Craig has led business units within both large global public companies and private mid-cap growth businesses such as Industrious (now CBRE), WeWork, Newmark, and Colliers International. He is a member of the Harvard Business School Alumni Board and has served as advisor to several growth companies. Craig earned his MBA from Harvard Business School, and his BS from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Outside of work, Craig is a founding member of the Leadership Now Project where he is a passionate advocate for working and fair democracies.
Join Greg Inglin as he welcomes Jim Shapiro, renowned head football coach and dedicated foster care parent, for an authentic discussion on character development and the art of positive coaching. Known for building team culture at King’s High School near Seattle, Jim’s approach to mentoring goes far beyond the scoreboard. Over 32 years, he has shaped the lives of young athletes and fostered over two dozen children, showing that fostering children and coachingfootball both share deep lessons in selflessness and resilience. Jim shares powerful stories about fostering children—how embracing the joys and challenges of being a foster carer has influenced his work with young men on the football field. He explains why building team culture starts with encouragement and how positive coaching creates lasting change. You’ll hear about overcoming negative self-talk, the power of words and mentorship, and proven strategies for character development that work for coaches, parents, andbusiness leaders. What You Can Expect from This Episode:-Jim Shapiro's personal journey as a coach, foster dad, and mentor-The emotional challenges and rewards of foster care and adoption-Lessons from coaching legends and using love, not fear, as motivation-Building team culture through selflessness and encouragement-How sports and faith intersect to shape resilient leaders-Advice for young coaches, parents, and business leaders alike Guest Resources:Jim on Twitter/X: @JimShapiroBetter Fundraising: betterfundraising.comBook: Building Champions: (Email Greg or Coach Shap for pdf)About Guest: Jim Shapiro has led Kings High School football for over three decades, mentored thousands of teens, and fostered 24 children. He is an author, nonprofit advisor, and passionate advocate of character-driven leadership. Feedback or guest ideas? Connect with Greg on his website or LinkedIn. If you enjoy the show, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’ssegments:00:00 The Journey of Foster Care and Adoption06:59 Coaching as a Calling12:56 The Impact of Coaches18:56 The Power of Words and Encouragement22:28 The Power of Self-Talk23:35 Balancing Aggression and Sportsmanship26:11 Transforming Young Men Through Coaching27:36 The Evolution of Coaching Style29:23 The Reward of Mentorship30:32 Navigating Parent Relationships32:17 Transformational Coaching Principles33:16 Teaching Selflessness to Young Athletes35:30 The Impact of Technology on Coaching36:38 Navigating Disappointment and Loss39:14 Encouragement for Young Coaches41:01 Investing in Continuous Learning
Join Greg Inglin as he goes deep with Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of the Spartan Racing Series, entrepreneur, author, and lifelong advocate for pushing the limits of human potential. From his gritty childhood in Queens to nearly losing the Spartan business during COVID, Joe shares hard-won wisdom about resilience, doing the impossible, curating mental toughness, raising strong kids, and building an enduring global movement around challenge and community.Joe opens up on the business’s near-collapse and recovery after the pandemic, why endurance and hardship are crucial to growth, and how lessons from a pool cleaning business, Wall Street, and failed attempts to get into Cornell shaped his relentless drive. Hear why he believes everyone needs to put a hard date on the calendar, why community is the real magic of Spartan, and how seemingly small habits and perspectives can transform lives—even in the face of daunting obstacles.What You Can Expect from This Episode:- How Joe went from Queens kid to global fitness leader- Turning personal struggle and business failure into fuel for growth- What the pandemic taught about business, adaptability, and grit- The role of community and friendship in overcoming big challenges- Practical advice for parents to raise more resilient kids- How military values, global travel, and “failing forward” keep Joe and Spartan innovating- Science-backed reasons to do hard things for your body and mindGuest Resources:Joe on IG: @realJoeDeSena Joe’s Email: joe@spartan.com About My Guest: Joe De Sena is CEO and founder of Spartan, adventure racer, author (including "10 Rules for Resilience for Families"), and a passionate advocate for getting uncomfortable and transforming lives through adversity. His events have drawn millions worldwide and inspired tattoos, community, and even military integration.Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on his website or LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating!Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 From Vermont to Florida: A New Chapter03:54 The Spartan Empire: Growth and Impact07:02 Endurance and Upbringing: Shaping a Resilient Mindset09:50 The Journey to Cornell: Academic Perseverance12:59 Wall Street to Spartan: A Career Transition15:53 Finding the Endurance Bug: A Personal Transformation18:49 Building a Business: From Hobby to Spartan Race21:51 Challenges and Triumphs: The Spartan Journey24:48 The Pandemic Impact: Resilience in Business27:52 Resilience in Business: Overcoming Financial Struggles32:37 Harnessing Doubt: Finding Strength in Naysayers37:19 Cognitive Benefits of Hardship: Changing Biology Through Challenges38:33 Raising Resilient Kids: The Role of Parents in Toughening Up41:14 Curating Mental Toughness: Overcoming Self-Doubt42:35 Defining Resilience: Learning from Life Experiences43:43 Failing Forward: The Mindset of Persistence45:25 Future of Spartan: Motivating Change in Society47:18 Learning from Global Perspectives: Innovation Through Diversity48:26 Finding Fun in Challenges: The Thread of Enjoyment51:51 Impact on the Military: Building Connections Through Hardship
Dive into the world of former NBA pro Spencer Hawes as he sits down with Greg Inglin to talk Huskies basketball pride,Seattle basketball brotherhood, the emotional departure of the Sonics, how he handled money and pressure during his NBA career, and the transformative power of mentorship. Spencer shares candid stories about NBA trades, setbacks,confidence, and life after basketball - including current business ventures and community contributions in the Pacific Northwest. He also looks forward to the hopeful Sonics return to Seattle. If you’re curious about what life in the NBA is really like, the impact of trades on athletes, or how players transitionbeyond their playing days, this episode pulls back the curtain. Spencer’s honesty about regrets, lessons learned, and the importance of giving back to the next generation will resonate with sports fans, parents, and dreamers alike. What You Can Expect from This Episode:- Stories of basketball heritage, community, and mentorship in the Pacific Northwest- Behind-the-scenes look at the business and human experience of NBA trades and career transitions- Personal insights on resilience, regret, and rediscovering passion after the game- The importance of paying it forward and building community off the court Guest Resources:Spencer on IG: https://www.instagram.com/spenceneedleSpencer on Twitter/X: https://x.com/spencerhawes00About My Guest: Spencer Hawes is a former NBAcenter and proud Seattle native who spent ten seasons in the league, playing for teams including the Sacramento Kings, Philadelphia 76ers, Cleveland Cavaliers, Los Angeles Clippers, Charlotte Hornets, and Milwaukee Bucks. A product of a multi-generational University of Washington Huskies family, Spencer is deeply rooted in the Pacific Northwest basketball community. Now retired from professional basketball, he’s dedicated to mentoring young players, supporting local camps, and pursuing ventures in real estatedevelopment and the wine industry - all while continuing to champion the Seattle sports scene and advocate for the NBA’s return to his hometown. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on his websiteor LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Huskies Heritage and Family Legacy03:54 The Basketball Brotherhood of the Pacific Northwest07:06 Reflections on the Sonics' Departure09:52 The Journey to the NBA: High School to College12:57 Navigating Early Career Challenges15:50 The Impact of NIL and Financial Management18:58 Mentorship and Transitioning to Professional Basketball22:07 Building Confidence in the NBA27:26 Reflecting on a Decade in the NBA30:20 The Impact of Trades on a Player's Career35:45 Navigating Life After Basketball39:39 Lessons Learned and Regrets41:43 Engaging with the Next Generation47:04 Current Ventures and Future Aspirations50:10 The Reality of Being an NBA Player
In this eye-opening episode, join Greg Inglin for an intimate conversation with Nathan Vass—a Seattle urban artist, filmmaker, and one of the city's youngest and most compassionate city bus drivers. From riding the notorious Route 7 through Seattle's most diverse neighborhoods to witnessing firsthand the complex realities of homelessness and mental health struggles that often unfold on the bus, Nathan shares raw stories that reveal the human side of social issues. Curious how he manages to find hope, build community, and navigate danger behind the wheel? Tune in to discover how driving a city bus can open windows into lives we often overlook—and why acknowledging those unseen moments can change how we see our city and each other. What You Can Expect from This Episode: - Powerful stories and insights from the frontline of Seattle’s public transit system and the diverse communities alongRoute 7- A heartfelt exploration of homelessness and mental health awareness through the eyes of an empathetic urban bus driver- Thought-provoking reflections on social issues, compassion, and the transformative power of paying attention in theordinary moments of urban life Guest Resources:Nathan Vass’ Website: https://www.nathanvass.comDeciding To See: The View from Nathan’s Bus: https://www.nathanvass.com/book.htmlAbout My Guest: Nathan Vass is a Seattle-based author, filmmaker, photographer, and longtime city bus driver renowned for his empathetic storytelling and observations from behind the wheel of Route 7, one of the city’s most dynamic and challenging lines. Drawing on his experiences with thousands of riders across diverse neighborhoods, Nathan’s acclaimed books "The Lines That Make Us" and "Deciding to See" explore themes of community, respect, grief, and resilience, while his creative work in photography and film further reflects his commitment to illuminating the humanity in everyday urban life. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on hiswebsite or LinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating!Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 The Fascination with Buses04:09 The Journey to Becoming a Bus Driver07:17 Driving the Challenging Route 710:04 Building Community Connections13:02 The Importance of Interaction16:08 The Art of Writing and Remembering19:03 Navigating Difficult Situations22:21 The Tragic Story of Sean Yim28:49 The State of Third Avenue33:19 Compassion in the Face of Adversity38:32 The Impact of Fentanyl on the Community43:52 Understanding the Homeless Experience50:13 Finding Hope Amidst Challenges54:28 Creative Pursuits and Future Projects
Discover the remarkable journey of Phyllis Campbell, a trailblazing leader in women’s banking and philanthropy, whose impact resonates throughout the Pacific Northwest. In this powerful episode, Phyllis shares her inspiring cancer battle and how it deepened her commitment to community impact, resilience, and gratitude. She discusses breaking barriers in a traditionally male-dominated industry, championing diversity and inclusion, and driving meaningful change through board governance and strategicphilanthropy. Listeners will gain profound insights into leadership, mentorship, and creating lasting legacies by embracing adversity and purpose. What You Can Expect from This Episode: - A moving account of family history and resilience, including WWII internment and generational grit.- Candid stories of shattering glass ceilings in banking, defying discrimination and rising to CEO roles in the bankingworld, guided by mentorship.Gain expert perspectives on board governance, fostering impactful philanthropy, and the importance of giving back tostrengthen communities. Guest Resources:Phyllis Campbell’s Website: https://www.phyllisjcampbell.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllisjcampbell/Reading Now: https://www.phyllisjcampbell.com/reading-roomFeatured Board Roles: Remitly (RELY), Air Transport Services Group (ATSG), Advisory Board of SanMar, Allen Institute,US-Japan Council About My Guest: Phyllis Campbell is an acclaimed business leader, board advisor, and advocate for inclusive leadershipin the Pacific Northwest. With over 40 years of executive experience, she has shaped organizations as CEO of U.S. Bank of Washington, led the Seattle Foundation, and served on numerous private and public company boards. Known forher integrity and strategic insights, Phyllis specializes in advising CEOs and boards on culture, diversity, and transition planning. Her unwavering resilience and commitment to community are rooted in her family’s history and personal battle with cancer. Today, Phyllis mentors emerging leaders, inspiring positive change in business and philanthropy. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on his website or LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Facing Adversity: A Personal Journey04:25 The Importance of Community and Support07:22 Shifting Perspectives: Time and Gratitude10:18 Contentment and the Present Moment13:11 Family Legacy: Resilience Through Generations16:24 Overcoming Discrimination: A Woman's Journey in Business19:25 Mentorship and Belief: The Power of Support22:04 Career Growth: Lessons from the Banking Industry25:11 Leadership and Imposter Syndrome28:18 The Role of Mentors in Career Advancement33:16 Navigating Gender Bias in Leadership35:59 Transitioning to Nonprofit Leadership41:12 The Reluctance to Join JP Morgan Chase44:45 Lessons from Jamie Dimon49:44 The Importance of Mentorship53:17 Embracing Failure as a Learning Tool55:39 Taking Risks in Career Choices
What happens after the whistle when NFL players hit the sidelines battered and bruised? In this episode of Pay YourDues, host Greg Inglin sits down with David Stricklin, Head Athletic Trainer for the Seattle Seahawks, to uncover the physical and mental grind it takes to compete in professional football. From 15-hour training camp days to recoveringfrom devastating injuries, Stricklin shares powerful stories of resilience, leadership, and the human side of life inside the NFL Seahawks locker room.Hear stories about former head coach Pete Carroll, wide receiver Tyler Lockett, and other pivotal team members. Whether you’re a football fan, an athlete, or someone chasing excellence in your own career, this conversation offers wisdom you won’t forget. What You Can Expect from This Episode: - A detailed look at the long days and hidden challenges of NFL training camp and gameday preparation.- Emotional stories from the highs of a Super Bowl win to the heartbreak of a crushing Super Bowl loss.- Lessons on leadership, resilience, and managing pressure—applicable far beyond the Lumen football field. Guest Resources:Seattle Seahawks: WebsiteMentors & influences highlighted: Patrick Olson (South Kitsap High School), Barney Graff (Oregon State), Sam Ramsden (Seahawks Director of Player Health & Performance)About My Guest: David Stricklin is the Head Athletic Trainer for the Seattle Seahawks, where he’s provided expert care toNFL athletes since 2010. A South Kitsap High School graduate, Stricklin discovered his passion for athletic training after a football injury led him to pursue exercise science at Central Washington University and sports medicine atOregon State. Known for his process-oriented approach, compassion, and leadership, Stricklin oversees athlete health, injury rehab, and recovery throughout each grueling NFL season. He is respected for his tireless work ethic, authentic relationships, and dedication to player well-being. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on hiswebsite or LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Introduction to NFL Training Camp Dynamics04:07 A Day in the Life of an NFL Trainer07:03 Building Relationships and Handling Cuts10:08 The Comprehensive Role of Athletic Trainers13:02 Navigating Injuries and Player Availability15:54 The Evolution of Injury Management in the NFL19:08 The Emotional Toll of Injuries21:56 Resilience and Mental Health in Players25:00 Personal Journey and Career Insights32:37 The Super Bowl Journey37:50 The Bond of Championship Teams40:44 The Aftermath of Loss41:39 Adapting to Change43:32 Leadership Lessons from Coaches45:03 The Damar Hamlin Incident48:22 The Sideline Experience52:27 Impactful Players and Growth55:23 Relentless Leadership57:50 The Reality of Being a Player01:00:17 Recovery and Technology01:03:37 Gratitude and Purpose
In this episode of Pay Your Dues, host Greg Inglin sits down with veteran Major League Baseball umpire Mike Muchlinski to talk about his incredible journey from a baseball-loving kid in central Washington to one of the fewer than 100 full-time umpires in the big leagues.Mike shares his path, starting from his days as a player, to his decision to go to umpire school and his years of "paying his dues" in the minor leagues. The conversation offers a unique look behind the scenes of Major League Baseball umpiring, covering topics such as: - The replay system and what goes on inside the MLB replay headquarters.- How the role of an umpire has evolved with the introduction of the pitch clock and other modern rule changes.- The future of the sport, including the potential for an automated ball-strike system, and the challenges of makingthat technology work.- How umpires handle the pressure of being judged on every decision and the importance of having a strong support system at home.- The sacrifices required to be a Major League umpire, including long stretches of time away from family during the baseball season. This episode is a testament to the dedication and commitment required to succeed at the highest level and provides a rare look into the life of a professional umpire. Mike's story highlights the importance of focus, continuous learning, and a passion for one's craft. What you can expect from this episode:- An inside look at the life and career of a Major League umpire, from the minor league grind to the big leaguespotlight.- Unique insights into the MLB replay system and the potential future of the automated ball-strike system.- Candid reflections on the sacrifices of a demanding profession and the importance of a strong support system to navigate the pressures of the job.Guest Resources:Mike Muchlinski: Wikipedia About My Guest: Mike Muchlinski is a full-time Major League Baseball umpire who has been in the league since 2006. A native of central Washington, Mike's love for baseball started at a young age. After playing in high school, he decided to pursue umpiring and attended the Jim Evans Academy of Umpiring. After years of hard work and dedication in the minor leagues, he received the call to The Show, making his Major League debut in Seattle. Mike is part of a small group of fewer than 100 full-time MLB umpires, a staff that only sees one or two open spots a year. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 The Ease of Train Travel03:36 Understanding the Replay System in Baseball06:33 The Dynamics of the Replay Room09:37 Impact of Replay on Umpiring12:28 The Future of Automated Ball Strike System15:33 Mike's Journey to Becoming an Umpire18:50 The Path to Major League Umpiring29:10 The Journey to Becoming an Umpire30:39 The Challenges of Minor League Baseball33:21 Learning and Growth in Umpiring36:04 The Dynamics of Umpiring at Different Levels39:05 The Memorable Major League Debut42:27 The Evolution of Umpiring Skills44:16 Adapting to the Fast-Paced Game50:06 Modern Changes in Baseball and Umpiring51:19 Focus and Training for Umpires52:50 The Importance of Focus in Umpiring55:42 Health and Medical Checks for Umpires57:09 The Evolution of Umpiring: Age and Fitness01:00:55 Handling Judgment and Pressure as an Umpire01:02:17 Balancing Family Life and Umpiring Career01:06:22 Faith and Community Support in Umpiring01:09:13 The Sacrifices of Being a Major League Umpire01:13:26 Celebrating Milestones: Jen Pawol's Historic Game01:15:56 Reflections on the Journey to the Big Leagues
In this episode of Pay Your Dues, host Greg Inglin sits down with Fred Rivera to explore his remarkable rise from a blue-collar upbringing in Los Angeles to becoming a respected leader in sports law, Executive Vice President and Special Advisor for the Seattle Mariners, as well as CEO & Founder of The Rivera Group, a trusted sports business advisory firm. Drawing from the conversation, Fred shares vivid stories of his hardworking grandparents, how baseball became his childhood anchor, and the struggles he overcame as a student before finding his path through law school. The episode dives into emotional intellect, mentorship, developing leadership skills, and what defines the qualities of a good leader - highlighting lessons from Fred’s tenure at the Department of Justice and his impactful role with theMariners. Listeners gain unique insight into leadership qualities, the realities of sports law, and the role community and business play in shaping major league sports organizations. What you can expect from this episode: - An inside look at Fred Rivera’s journey from a hardworking family in Santa Monica to leading in sports law. - Candid reflections on emotional intellect, leadership skills, and the qualities of a good leader - featuring stories aboutmentorship, overcoming self-doubt, and lessons learned from legendary figures like Janet Reno. - Real-world insight into how sports law intersects with business, community engagement, and modern challenges such as team ownership, highlighting the unique impact of leadership in the world of professional sports. Guest Resources: The Rivera Group: WebsiteFred Rivera: LinkedInAbout My Guest: Fred Rivera is a seasoned legal and sports executive with a rich career spanning government service,private law practice, and professional sports management. Born and raised in Southern California in a hardworking, blue-collar family, he forged his path through education beginning at community college and culminating in law school at Gonzaga University. Fred’s early career included a notable tenure as a trial lawyer in the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division, where he developed expertise in lending discrimination and gained deep insights into financial institutions and business leadership. Transitioning to private practice, he rose to managing partner at a major Seattle law firm, Perkins Coie, overseeing a large team and a prestigious client roster. Later, as general counsel for theSeattle Mariners, Fred played a pivotal role in player arbitration, community engagement, stadium lease negotiations, media operations, and real estatedevelopment. Now leading the Rivera Group, he advises on sports franchise investments and fractional ownership, blending his legal acumen with his passion for sports to drive innovative business endeavors in the industry. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Foundations of Hard Work and Passion04:00 The Journey to Education and Law School06:47 Early Career and Influences in D.C.09:50 Transitioning to Private Practice12:54 Leadership and Managing at Perkins Coie15:48 The Role of Community and Advocacy18:44 Becoming General Counsel for the Mariners29:32 Navigating Arbitration in Sports Contracts31:14 The Emotional Connection of Sports to Community33:47 The Cultural Significance of Sports35:44 The Role of Sports in Economic Development37:57 Community Engagement and Youth Involvement in Sports41:07 The Evolution of Sports and Entertainment Districts43:01 Fractional Ownership in Sports Teams47:03 The Global Impact of Sports Investment49:45 Reflections on Personal Growth and Legacy
Experience the passion, grit, and community at the heart of running with this inspiring episode featuring Mario Fraioli - renowned running coach, Boston Marathon veteran, and creator of The Morning Shakeout podcast and newsletter. Mario opens up about his deep connection to the Boston Marathon, his journey from improving as a young cross country runner to building a legacy as a coach, and the lessons learned from mentors who shaped his path. In this conversation, Mario shares advice on running, the rise in marathon participation, and how consistency, community, and storytelling fuel both marathon runners and everyday athletes. Whether you’re an aspiring marathon runner, a coach, or simply love endurance races, this episode is packed with wisdom and motivation to power your running journey. What you can expect from this episode: - Boston Marathon stories: Why running the Boston Marathon six times shaped Mario’s coaching philosophy and forged a lifelong bond with the event and community. - Endurance, strength & coaching success: Insights into running, strength and conditioning, the critical role of consistency, and building relationships with marathon runners and cross country athletes. - Behind The Morning Shakeout: The evolution of Mario’s acclaimed newsletter and podcast, thoughts on communication in the digital age, the running boom, and the power of paying it forward in coaching. Guest Resources: The Morning Shakeout: Website, Podcast Mario Fraioli - Website, Coaching, Instagram About My Guest: Mario Fraioli is an acclaimed running coach, writer, and six-time Boston Marathon finisher. He is the creator of The Morning Shakeout, a celebrated newsletter and podcast dedicated to running culture, coaching, and storytelling. With a background in competitive cross country and marathon running, Mario has inspired thousands through his coaching, writing, and passion for building strong, supportive running communities. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating!Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 The Boston Marathon: A Personal Connection03:40 The Journey into Running06:52 From Basketball to Cross Country09:36 The Competitive Spirit in Running12:39 Transitioning to College Running15:56 The Influence of Coaching18:36 Writing and Storytelling in Sports24:59 The Journey Begins: From Small Town to Big Dreams27:45 Seeds of Passion: The Evolution of a Coach and Writer32:39 Learning from the Best: Mentorship and Growth in Writing35:54 The Birth of a Coaching Career: From Passion to Practice38:33 Consistency is Key: The Secret to Success in Running40:35 The Morning Shakeout: Crafting a Consistent Newsletter50:46 Building Connections Through Communication52:44 The Intersection of Running and Music54:25 Remembering Joe Vigil: A Coaching Legend01:02:30 The Essence of Coaching: More Than Just Training01:05:43 The Solitude and Community of Coaching01:07:27 The Future of Writing: Contemplating a New Book01:09:55 The Running Boom: Understanding Its Popularity01:13:27 Staying Connected: The Morning Shakeout Podcast Newsletter
Nearly 20 years ago, the Seattle SuperSonics were swept away by a new owner, relocating to Oklahoma City, and Sonic Fans still can't believe it ever happened. Today's guest does a deep dive into what lead up to Seattle losing it's team.If you’re curious about the true stories behind NBA superstars, lost franchises, and the real work it takes to “pay your dues” as a writer, this episode is for you. Greg Inglin welcomes award-winning author and journalist Jon Finkel, whose books, like "Hoops Heist," "Heart Over Height," "Mean Joe Greene: Built By Football," and "1996: A Biography", have captured the grit, resilience, and inspiration at the heart of sports. Jon reflects on his journey from writingfor Men’s Health and GQ to chronicling basketball royalty, ranking athletic presidents, and sharing honest stories about fatherhood through bestsellers like "The Life of Dad" and "The Dadvantage." Don't miss this deep-dive on the NBA’s hidden legacy, how writing mimics athletics, the mentorships between Seattle hoop stars, and why saying “yes” (and surviving “no”) creates enduring impact - in sports, in writing, and in life. What you can expect from this episode:- Seattle SuperSonics, Hoops Heist, and building an NBA dynasty: Discover how Jon captured the lost legacy of theSeattle SuperSonics and the interconnected stories of Jamal Crawford, Isaiah Thomas, Brandon Roy, and others shaping basketball culture.- Resilience in writing and sports: Hear Jon’s behind-the-scenes journey from hustling for magazine bylines to collaborating with icons like Mean Joe Greene and Nate Robinson - plus how rejection and persistence led to a bestselling career. - Fatherhood and growth lessons: Jon shares advice and stories from "The Life of Dad" and "The Dadvantage," revealing how elite athletes, writers, and dads navigate fatherhood, vulnerability, and lasting impact. Guest Resources: Jon Finkel: Website, The Midlife Male, Instagram, Books & Biceps Email ListJon’s Books: Hoops Heist, The Life of Dad, Advantage plus these. About My Guest: Jon Finkel is an accomplished author, journalist, and editor with a distinguished career writing for prominent publications such as Men’s Health, GQ, The New York Times, and Muscle & Fitness. He is the author of numerous acclaimed sports biographies, including Hoops Heist, Mean Joe Greene: Built By Football, and Heart Over Height with NBA star Nate Robinson. Jon also created the popular Greatest Stars of the NBA book series for the NBA’s “Read to Achieve” program. As a passionate storyteller andfather, he explores fatherhood in books like The Life of Dad and The Dadvantage. Jon brings a unique perspective on resilience, sports culture, and personal growth. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Nostalgia for the Hulkster, Hulk Hogan03:57 The Art of Wrestling Performance07:00 Behind the Curtain: The Real Hulk Hogan10:05 Writing the Macho Man Biography13:03 The Connection Between Fathers and Wrestling16:05 Exploring Seattle Basketball History19:03 Nate Robinson: A Unique Journey22:01 The Legacy of Seattle Basketball24:31 The Dual Sport Dilemma27:40 The Sonic's Hoop Heist31:11 Civic Responsibility and Team Sentiment33:41 Cultural Impact of the Sonics38:37 The Legacy of Seattle Basketball42:49 Writing Journey and Fatherhood Insights50:53 The Journey of a Writer53:27 Overcoming Rejection and Embracing Persistence57:25 The Transition from Nonfiction to Fiction01:01:13 The Life of Dad: A Unique Collaboration01:04:38 Reflections on Parenting and Cherished Moments01:11:25 The Greatest Sports Year Ever: A Retrospective01:15:39 Building a Community Through Writing
Are you and your family preparing for the twists and turns of the college application journey? This episode of Pay Your Dues welcomes renowned college advisor Harlan Cohen for a powerful conversation about the realities of university application processes, early action, early decision, and the emotional rollercoaster of admission rejection. Discover expert insights on navigating enrollment steps, managing expectations, and overcoming loneliness during the transition to college - whether as a first-year or transfer student. Harlan and Greg go beyond forms and deadlinesto explore mental health, the hidden opportunities at community colleges, and why every challenge is a chance for growth. If you’re searching for practical resources, mindset shifts, or simply reassurance that rejection isn’t the end,this episode is your essential guide. What you can expect from this episode: - Real talk about the admission process: College application strategies, the importance of transfer applications, and what enrollment steps to expect. - How to reframe rejection: Tools for students and parents to cope with admission rejection, manage expectations, and turn college transition stress into growth—across all backgrounds, including transfer students and community college pathways. - Mental health and campus resources: Why addressing loneliness and connecting with support networks (professors, counselors, community) is key during the transition, and how to access vital resources for lasting personal development.Guest Resources:Harlan Cohen: LinkTree,Mailing List, Podcast,WebsiteHarlan’s Social Media: Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Guest Resources:Harlan Cohen: LinkTree,Mailing List, Podcast,WebsiteHarlan’s Social Media: Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and Twitter/XHarlan’s College Success Coaching Program Best First YearHarlan’s TEDx TalkToday Show Interview with Al RokerBefore College TV (resources and videos) Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Navigating College Rejections06:48 Understanding the College Transition12:45 The Impact of Expectations on CollegeLife18:43 Managing Expectations for Students andParents28:46 Understanding Expectations in Parenting36:44 Addressing Loneliness and Homesickness42:22 Utilizing College Resources for MentalHealth52:00 Navigating the College ApplicationProcessand Twitter/XHarlan’s College Success Coaching Program Best First YearHarlan’s TEDx TalkTodayShow Interview with Al RokerBefore College TV (resources and videos) About My Guest: HarlanCohen is the New York Times bestselling author of The Naked Roommate: And 107Other Issues You Might Run Into In College and six other titles (over 1 millioncopies in print). His social media accounts have over 1.5 million followers andhe hosts a popular podcast. He is the founder of Best First Year, a collegesuccess coaching program for students and parents. Harlan lives in Chicago,Illinois with his wife and three children. Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to thegood part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Navigating College Rejections06:48 Understanding the College Transition12:45 The Impact of Expectations on CollegeLife18:43 Managing Expectations for Students andParents28:46 Understanding Expectations in Parenting36:44 Addressing Loneliness and Homesickness42:22 Utilizing College Resources for MentalHealth52:00 Navigating the College ApplicationProcess
In this episode, Greg Inglin sits down with Amy Benthin, three-time NCAA women’s soccer champion and current Seattle Reign FC chaplain, to explore the intersection of resilience, identity, and empowerment in women’s soccer. Amy reflects on her journey from Issaquah, Washington, to playing alongside Mia Hamm at the University of North Carolina, the powerhouse of women's soccer. She shares how faith, sports, and mentorship shaped her identity, the challenges and triumphs of competing with US women’ssoccer team players, and the life lessons she now brings to coaching, motherhood, and empowering the next generation of women in sports. What you can expect from this episode: - Behind-the-scenes stories from NCAA women’ssoccer championships and training with legends like Mia Hamm, highlighting the grit and resilience needed to excel in women’s soccer. - Insight into how faith, identity, and empowerment guided Amy’s transition from elite athlete to life coach, pastor, and mentor for US women’s soccer team players and aspiring leaders. - Real talk on balancing motherhood, sports, and leadership, and how Amy empowers the next generation of women in soccer to embrace their strengths and overcome adversity. Guest Resources: Amy Benthin: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-benthin-4a86901a0/Website: https://mytrueyoucoach.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trueyoucoach/ Seattle Reign FC Team Chaplain BioUniversity of North Carolina Women’s SoccerGuest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn.If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 From the Northwest to North Carolina: A Journey Begins04:04 The Recruitment Process: Finding the Right Fit07:09 Training with Legends: The Impact of Mia Hamm10:00 Coaching Excellence: Lessons from Anson Dorrance13:13 The Pressure to Win: Expectations at UNC16:03 Handling Adversity: Learning from Losses19:13 Character Development: Lessons Beyond the Field22:11 Faith and Identity: The Role of Spirituality25:12 Investing in the Next Generation: Empowering Young Athletes33:52 The Journey to Ministry36:15 Navigating the Challenges of Pastoral Care40:19 The Art of Listening and Presence42:08 Transitioning to Life Coaching44:11 Overcoming Fear and Performance Pressure48:03 The Impact of Comparison52:19 Finding Contentment in Growth55:15 Integrating Faith into Coaching58:19 Serving as Team Chaplain01:01:11 Balancing Roles as a Mother and Coach
In this episode, Greg Inglin welcomes Chris Hauth—Olympic swimmer, world-class triathlete, and renowned endurance sports coach—to discuss the transformative power of athletics and the growth mindset. Chris shares his journey from competing on the swim team at the highest level to coaching athletes in triathlon and other sports and Olympic sports. He explores how personal growth, mindset, and community are at the core of endurance sports, and shares his many lessons learned from swimming, coaching, and building a life around commitment and self-discovery. Whether you’re an aspiring athlete or seeking personal development, Chris’ insights on balancing life, overcoming fear, and the impact of his coaching career will inspire you to pursue your own journey with purpose.What you can expect from this episode:- How Chris Hauth’s experience in Olympic swimming and triathlon shaped his philosophy on athletics, mindset, and personal growth.- Actionable strategies for developing a growth mindset, building community in endurance sports, and balancing training with life’s demands.- Insights into the world of Chris Hauth coaching: the importance of commitment, overcoming fear, and using endurance sports as a vehicle for self-discovery and transformation.Guest Resources:Chris Hauth: Instagram, Twitter/X, Rich Roll Podcast AppearancesAIMP Coaching Website29029 EverestingGuest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating!Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Introduction to Chris Hauth and His Journey10:50 Olympic Experiences and Coaching Influence20:52 Transitioning from Finance to Endurance Sports30:41 The Value of Endurance Training39:58 Mindset and Balance in Life49:56 Facing Fear and Embracing Challenges01:00:09 Community and Individual Growth in Endurance Sports01:03:45 29,029: The Everest Challenge and Its Impact01:09:56 The Importance of Mindset in Everyday Life
What if your greatest source of leadership and personal growth came not from your successes, but from the mentors and challenges that shaped your journey? In this episode, host Greg Inglin sits down with Eric Johnson, a well-known Seattle broadcaster and writer, to explore how resilience, mentorship, and a commitment to personal development have fueled his remarkable career - from the high-pressure world of television to a creative new chapter filled with writing novels, speaking engagements, and TV appearances. Eric shares candid stories about his transition out of daily news, the profound impact of business mentors and tough lessons learned at Washington State University, and how leadership skills are honed through perseverance, the influence of great sports journalism, and a lifelong passion for writing and reading.What you can expect from this episode:- Resilience and Career Transition: Eric Johnson shares how embracing resilience helped him navigate major career changes - leaving the fast-paced world of broadcasting for creative projects, proving that leadership and personal growth often come from reinvention.- Mentorship and Personal Development: Discover how pivotal mentors, both in broadcasting and at Washington State University, shaped Eric’s work ethic and leadership skills, and why business mentors are essential for ongoing personal development as a leader.- Leadership Skills Through Storytelling: Learn how Eric’s lifelong passion for writing and storytelling, combined with the influence of sports journalism, has made him a stronger leader and communicator - offering practical insights for anyone seeking to grow personally and professionallyGuest Resources:Eric Johnson: FacebookGuest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating!Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 Introduction and Current Projects05:53 Early Influences and Career Path11:52 First Broadcasting Job and Challenges and the Value of Hard Work in Career Building17:59 Bravery and Fear of Failure, and the Drive for Excellence22:53 Career Progression in Broadcasting and Competition and Friendships in the Industry27:30 Joining KOMO and Learning from Legends28:52 Creating Eric's Little Heroes and Memorable Moments in Eric's Little Heroes32:42 Teamwork in Broadcasting35:55 Covering Iconic Sports Moments39:08 Transitioning to News43:46 The Impact of Eric's Heroes45:21 The Power of Positive Storytelling and Humanity48:40 Navigating the Impact of Negative News49:58 Seattle's Social Issues, Addiction, and Controversy56:04 Facing Backlash from Seattle is Dying01:00 Interviewing Influential Figures and Caring in Journalism01:04:22 Common Threads Among People, Embracing Life and Human Connection
If you’re inspired by stories of resilience and personal development, this episode of Pay Your Dues is for you. Join Greg Inglin as he sits down with former NFL quarterback Jon Kitna, whose journey is a testament to the power of leadership, mentorship, and unwavering determination in the face of adversity. Whether you’re an athlete, aspiring leader, or simply passionate about athlete stories that go beyond the field, you’ll discover how Kitna’s faith, leadership skills, and commitment to personal growth guided him from small college football to a standout NFL career without ever being selected in the NFL draft. Along the way, Kitna made his mark with the Seattle Seahawks, Cincinnati Bengals, Detroit Lions, and Dallas Cowboys, facing challenges and triumphs at every stop. This candid conversation is packed with sports career advice, real-life lessons in leadership, and the kind of authentic, behind-the-scenes insights you won’t find anywhere else. Tune in for a sports leadership podcast that will leave you motivated and ready to tackle your own challenges. What you can expect from this episode: - Behind-the-scenes athlete stories: Hear firsthand about the grit and resilience it takes to go from overlooked high school player to a respected NFL quarterback. - Leadership and mentorship insights: Learn how leadership skills and the support of mentors shaped Kitna’s career and personal growth.- Faith and personal development: Discover how Kitna’s faith in Christianity and commitment to personal development helped him overcome obstacles and inspire others both on and off the field.Guest idea? Feedback? Connect with Greg on LinkedIn. If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a 5-star rating! Want to skip to the good part? Here’s this episode’s segments:00:00 - From High School to College Football Journey09:43 - Overcoming Challenges and Finding Direction18:57 - The Role of Faith in a Competitive Career26:51 - Life on the Practice Squad and Early NFL Experiences31:58 - International Opportunities and Career Growth33:10 - The Journey to Becoming a Starter34:33 - Challenges and Triumphs in Seattle37:52 - Transitioning to Cincinnati40:26 - The Role of a Backup Quarterback43:03 - Impact Beyond the Field in Detroit45:36 - Faith in the Locker Room48:59 - The Unique Experience of Playing for the Cowboys51:48 - Growth as a Leader and Quarterback54:13 - Overcoming Fear in Life and Sports57:10 - The Rewarding Journey of Coaching High School Football01:03:47 - Transformational Coaching in High School
Leigh Steinberg is considered the first Super Agent in sports and he once had an A-list of clients that was the envy of his industry. But just like the movie Jerry McGuire (which he consulted on), Steinberg lost it all and had to battle back, writing his own true life redemption story. Steinberg shares the stories of the early work to build his agency, and the lasting impression he’s leaving on professional sports and the players he represents.https://www.steinbergspeaks.comIG: @leighsteinberg#leighsteinberg #steinbergspeaks #jerrymcguire #patrickmahomes #sportsagent #agentacademy #twelvesteps #resilience Chapters00:00 Early Influences and Background06:58 Building Relationships and Trust09:53 Navigating the Early Days of Sports Agency12:53 Negotiation Strategies and Techniques15:56 The Evolution of the Sports Industry18:50 Managing High-Profile Clients21:44 The Role of Mental Resilience in Sports24:33 The Personal Touch in Client Relationships30:02 The Reluctance to Retire from Sports31:15 Preparing for Life After Sports33:51Overcoming Personal Adversity36:55 Rebuilding Trust and Reputation38:40 The Journey with Patrick Mahomes41:24 Managing Perspective in Adversity43:44 Taking Risks for Player Safety45:37 Establishing a Foundation for Brain Health47:47Current Endeavors and Future Plans49:17 Training the Next Generation of Sports Agents53:10 Lessons on Resilience and Responsibility54:52 Sharing Wisdom Through Social Media




