Pearl Dive Podcast

The Pearl Dive pod will feature interviews with people who offer historically-rooted insight, wisdom and inspiration from Asian American, Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander Christian communities. <br/><br/><a href="https://fulleraachi.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">fulleraachi.substack.com</a>

Inheritance

The third episode of Pilgrimage: Manzanar, Memory, and Meaning explores the theme of inheritance—what is passed down through memory, culture, and faith.Host Elise Kaneshiro speaks with Dr. Johnny Ramírez-Johnson, Dr. Alex Jun, and Myles Haruki-Nelson, who each participated in the 2025 Manzanar Pilgrimage. Together, they discuss family legacy, intergenerational trauma, and the sacred responsibility of remembrance.Through stories of migration, racial reconciliation, and hope, Inheritance reflects on how faith transforms our understanding of history and identity. The conversation weaves together history, theology, and pastoral care, offering a deeply personal look at what it means to hold—and heal—our collective past.Watch the companion video:This episode was recorded remotely from Pasadena, California, and is supported by the Asian American Christian History Institute at Fuller Theological Seminary and the K/T Foundation.Intro and outro music by Daniel King and Benji Tseng. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

11-18
32:43

Dive Bar. Joe Cheah and the Burmese American Christian Project.

We continue the Dive Bar, a series that is part of the Pearl Dive podcast. In the Dive Bar we talk to folks inside AACHI and the Fuller Asian American Center orbit about all kinds of things: what we’re working on, what we’re interested in. We hope you’ll like these conversations. So grab a drink of your choice and join us.Today, I’m talking to Dr. Joe Cheah, who along with Dr. David Moe, is heading up a new AACHI project about the Burmese American Christian diaspora. This project was awarded grants from APARRI and the American Baptist Home Mission Society. We looking forward to amplifying the history, stories, and theologies from Burma Diaspora Christian communities in the United States.Fr. Joe Cheah, OSM, is Professor and Chair in Philosophy, Theology and Religious Studies at the University of Saint Joseph in West Hartford, Connecticut. As a part of the first wave of immigrants from Burma, he came to the United States with his parents in 1966. He co-sponsors the St. Mary’s Home in Kyauktan, Myanmar. All donations and inquiries go through our 501(c)(3) organization in the US: The Children Charitable Foundation of Myanmar, Inc. (childrenofmyanmar.org)Joe has published extensively, including Race and Religion in American Buddhism: White Supremacy and Immigrant Adaptation (New York: Oxford University Press, 2011), Theological Reflections on “Gangnam Style”: A Racial, Sexual, and Cultural Critique (New York: Palgrave MacMillan, 2014) with Grace Ji-Sun Kim, and Anti-Asian Racism: Myths, Stereotypes, and Catholic Social Teaching (New York: Orbis Books, 2023). Joe can be reached at jpcheah@aol.com. — Tim TsengThanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

11-07
29:54

Return

The second episode of Pilgrimage: Manzanar, Memory, and Meaning invites listeners into a conversation on embodiment, hospitality, and faith.Host Elise Kaneshiro speaks with Krystin Bruan, Creative Producer at Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center, reflecting on the 2025 Manzanar Pilgrimage and the sacred practice of returning to sites of history and faith.Through stories of intentional care, collaboration, and presence, Return explores how acts of hospitality and remembrance sustain spiritual formation and community identity across generations.Watch the companion video: This conversation was recorded remotely from Oʻahu and Pasadena, California, and is supported by the Asian American Christian History Institute at Fuller Theological Seminary and the K/T Foundation.Intro and outro music by: Daniel King and Benji Tseng This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

11-04
30:38

Witness

The opening episode of Pilgrimage: Manzanar, Memory, and Meaning centers on holding story and sorrow, reflecting on the power of public truth-telling across generations and faith traditions.Host Elise Kaneshiro speaks with Mr. Bill Watanabe, camp survivor and community leader (Little Tokyo Historical Society), and Dr. Pamela King, Professor of Applied Developmental Science and Co-Director of the Thrive Center for Human Development at Fuller Theological Seminary.Together, they explore how testimony, trauma, and pilgrimage shape identity, healing, and vocation. Through survivor memory and spiritual reflection, Witness invites listeners to consider how remembrance becomes a sacred act of faith and justice.Watch the companion video: This conversation was recorded remotely from Oʻahu and Pasadena, California, and is supported by the Asian American Christian History Institute at Fuller Theological Seminary.Intro and outro music by Daniel King and Benji Tseng. Instagram (AACHI): https://www.instagram.com/fulleraachi/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

10-23
35:30

Dive Bar. Elgin Lee Quan's Passion for Chinese Christian Elders

The Dive Bar is open! We talk to folks inside AACHI and Fuller’s Asian American Center about what we're working on, what we're interested in…all kinds of stuff! So we hope you'll like these conversations, which are part of the Pro Dive podcast. So get a drink of your choice and join us!In today's episode of the Dive Bar, I chat with our very own Pearl Diver Elgin Quan. If you've been following the Pearl Dive, you'll know that Elgin has contributed a couple of stories already. “A Father and Son's Full Circle Mission From Canton to Oakland” is based on her interview with Tim Wong, who reflected about his father Sen Wong's life and ministry. Sen Wong was the founder of Chinese Bible Mission, a network of Chinese churches across Northern California.Elgin also wrote “There Is None Like Him: A Mother's Song of Survival and Salvation Across Oceans and Generations,” Cheng Lee Heen Jun’s (郑李显珍) harrowing journey from Guang XI to Vietnam and then to the US as a refugee.I met Elgin several years ago when she was writing up interviews and stories of the members of the Cantonese Senior Fellowship at Sunset Church in San Francisco, a church that was formerly known as Sunset Chinese Baptist Church. I was so excited by her passion for elderly Chinese Christians and their stories and their histories that I just had to find a way to get her to be part of AACHI. So we're so blessed that Elgin is one of our pearl divers, and I look forward to hearing more of her stories in the future, as I hope you do too.This conversation was recorded on September 4th, 2024. — Tim TsengThanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

05-13
16:31

Dive Bar. David Moe and the Burmese American Christian Project

Today we're starting the Dive Bar, a new series that is part of the Pearl Dive podcast. We'll talk to folks inside AACHI and the Fuller Asian American Center orbit about all kinds of things: what we're working on, what we're interested in. We hope you'll like these conversations. So get a drink of your choice and join us.Today, I'm talking to Dr. David Moe, who along with Dr. Joe Cheah, is heading up a new AACHI project about the Burmese American Christian diaspora. This project was awarded an APARRI Working Grant. We are excited to amplify the history, stories, and theologies from the Burmese American Christian communities. Dr. David Thang Moe is at Yale University in New Haven, CT. where he is a Postdoctoral Associate and Lecturer in Religion and Conflict at the Council on Southeast Asia Studies at MacMillan Center for International and Area Studies and Department of Religious Studies. He can be reached on Facebook at facebook.com/davidmoe83.For more about Burmese American Christians, see David Thang Moe, “The Hidden Stories of Burmese American Christians: Understanding their Imagination of Identity,” International Bulletin of Mission Research 2024, Vol. 48(3), 383­ –398. — Tim TsengThanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

05-06
17:08

Robert Chao Romero on Non-Innocent Histories of Christianity

In part two of our conversation with Robert Chao Romero, Fiel Sahir talks to Robert about his academic journey and reflections on non-innocent histories of Christianity that includes the Brown Church, Asian American Christianity and other marginalized Christian communities. He also discusses the story of the Chinese in Mexico and theological musings on the Brown Church. If you haven't listened to part one, it might be worth taking a look at that as it'll give a deeper context into everything we'll be discussing throughout this episodeRev. Dr. Robert Chao Romero is "Asian-Latino," and has been a professor of Chicana/o Studies and Asian American Studies at UCLA since 2005. He received his Ph.D. from UCLA in Latin American History and his Juris Doctor from U.C. Berkeley. Romero has published more than 30 academic books and articles on issues of race, immigration, history, education, and religion, and received the Latina/o Studies book award from the international Latin American Studies Association. His book, Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity (2020), received the InterVarsity Press Readers’ Choice Award for best academic title. Romero is a former Ford Foundation and U.C. President's Postdoctoral Fellow, as well as a recipient of the Louisville Institute's Sabbatical Grant for Researchers. Robert is also an ordained minister and community organizer.This interview was recorded on January 27, 2025.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.With this episode, the Pearl Dive podcast will take a brief break. Look out for new and different kinds of episodes this summer and fall!In the meantime, if you have questions about previous episodes or suggestions about topics that you’d like to see us cover, please email us at aachi@fuller.edu. We also welcome audio recorded questions and comments of less than 30-seconds. Please say your name and tell us where you’re from.LINKS AND REFERENCES* Robert Chao Romero books:* Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity (IV Press Academic, 2020)* The Chinese in Mexico, 1882-1940 (University of Arizona Press, 2011)* Christianity and Critical Race Theory: A Faithful and Constructive Conversation (Baker Academic, 2023). With Jeff M. Liou.* God's Resistance: Mobilizing Faith to Defend Immigrants (New York University Press, 2023). With Brad Christerson, Alexia Salvatierra, and Nancy Wang Yuen* Justo L. Gonzalez, The Story of Christianity (2 volumes).* Justo L. Gonzalez works on Amazon.* Hugo Wong, America’s Lost Chinese: The Rise and Fall of a Migrant Family Dream (2023).Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

04-15
31:45

An Asian Latino and his Chinese Evangelist Grandparents (1/2)

In this episode of the Pearl Dive podcast, Fiel Sahir talks to Robert Chao Romero about the Chinese side of his family heritage. His grandfather, Calvin Chao, was one of the four famous Chinese evangelists who led the revival of diasporic Chinese Christianity in the mid-twentieth century. Robert also explores his upbringing as an Asian-Latino Christian in Southern California and discusses his study about Chinese in Mexico.Rev. Dr. Robert Chao Romero is "Asian-Latino," and has been a professor of Chicana/o Studies and Asian American Studies at UCLA since 2005. He received his Ph.D. from UCLA in Latin American History and his Juris Doctor from U.C. Berkeley. Romero has published more than 30 academic books and articles on issues of race, immigration, history, education, and religion, and received the Latina/o Studies book award from the international Latin American Studies Association. His book, Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity (2020), received the InterVarsity Press Readers’ Choice Award for best academic title. Romero is a former Ford Foundation and U.C. President's Postdoctoral Fellow, as well as a recipient of the Louisville Institute's Sabbatical Grant for Researchers. Robert is also an ordained minister and community organizer. This interview was recorded on January 27, 2025.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.LINKS AND REFERENCES* Robert Chao Romero books:* Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology, and Identity (IV Press Academic, 2020) * The Chinese in Mexico, 1882-1940 (University of Arizona Press, 2011) * Christianity and Critical Race Theory: A Faithful and Constructive Conversation (Baker Academic, 2023). With Jeff M. Liou.* God's Resistance: Mobilizing Faith to Defend Immigrants (New York University Press, 2023). With Brad Christerson, Alexia Salvatierra, and Nancy Wang Yuen* Calvin Chao links/references [to be added]* Philip S. Leung, “Christian Fundamentalism In Modern China: Calvin Chao And The ‘Chinese For Christ’ Movement,” Jian Dao 17 (2002): 123-143. Thanks to the Christianity and Chinese Culture Research Center of Alliance Bible Seminary, Hong Kong.* Calvin Chao’s publications on Amazon.comThanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

04-08
35:26

A Funny Thing Happened Along the Way to the Global South

The center of Christianity has shifted from the West to the Global South. There is more interest in World Christianity today than ever before. But have minoritized Christians in the U.S. been leap frogged (as Bishop Roy Sano once confided to me) in the process? Dr. Soojin Chung, Director of the Overseas Ministries Study Center at Princeton Theological Seminary has some thoughts about that. In this deep dive episode of the Pearl Dive podcast. I talk to Soojin about how the study of World Christianity and Ethnic Studies can actually come together and be fruitful partners for research and ministry.Soojin also teaches in the Department of History and Ecumenics at the seminary. She convened the Princeton World Christianity Conference Gerald H. Anderson Lectures last month and is the Editor-in-Chief of the International Bulletin of Mission Research. — Tim TsengThis interview was recorded on March 19, 2025.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.LINKS AND REFERENCES* Soojin Chung, Adopting for God: The Mission to Change America through Transnational Adoption (NYU Press, 2021)* Overseas Ministries Study Center* International Bulletin of Mission Research* Dana Robert* Kosuke Koyama* EATWOT | wikipedia* Mercy Amba Oduyoye* Lamin Sanneh* Gerald Anderson* Jehu J. Hanciles, Migration and the Making of Global Christianity (Eerdmans, 2021)* Deanna Womack and Raimundo Berreto, eds., Alterity and the Evasion of Justice: Exploration of the “Other” in World Christianity (Fortress Press, 2023)* Afe Adogame, Raimundo Berreto, and Wanderly Pereira da Rosa, eds. Migration and Public Discourse in World Christianity (Fortress Press, 2019).*  Kirsteen Kim - ‘Racism Awareness in Mission: Touchstone or Cultural Blindspot?”, International Bulletin of Mission Research, 45(4), 376-386.(Original work published 2021)Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

04-01
34:53

Uncles who demanded Liberation

How does the way you think or talk about faith help you respond to racism? How does the way you read the Bible address social injustice? Where I grew up, “uncles” with powerful faith kept raising these questions in bible studies and Sunday School. I believe these “eccentric uncles” were always in our Asian American faith communities. But during the 1960s and 1970s, they spoke up in a more public manner. Black, Latino, and indigenous church leaders were already speaking so elegantly against racial discrimination at the time. Our theological “uncles” did the same, demanding liberation for the Asian American church. In the process, they left us an impressive record of theological reflection and ministry practices that attempted to give voice to the growing Asian American Christian churches.In this deep dive episode of the Pearl Dive podcast, I talk to Shijie (SJ) Lu. S.J. is a doctoral candidate in Christian Ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary. His research focuses on the intersection of race, Christian mission and ethics in the context of the San Francisco Bay Area. SJ grew up in Singapore and studied Anthropology and Business at the University of Pennsylvania. Most recently, he completed his MA in World Christianity at Regent College, where his thesis explored Singaporean Christians’ missional-ethical responsibility towards foreign domestic workers. His interests in Asian American (Christian) history include Asian American liberation theology, the genesis of the model minority stereotype, and theological roots informing its ethical witness. SJ lives in Berkeley with his wife and baby daughters. - Tim TsengThis interview was recorded on September 27, 2023.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.LINKS* Helen Kim, “Niseis of the Faith: Theologizing Liberation in the Asian American Movement,” (undergraduate thesis, Stanford University, 2006)* Wikipedia article: Roy I Sano* Densho Encyclopedia: Paul M. Nagano* Densho Digital Repository: Paul Nagano Interview* Densho Digital Repository: Lloyd K. Wake Interview* The Theologies of Asian Americans and Pacific Peoples: A Reader. [The PACTS Reader, originally published in 1976, revised and reprinted 2023] (Claremont Press, 2022) compiled by Roy I. Sano, edited by Daniel D. Lee.* Inventory of the Pacific and Asian American Center for Theology and Strategies Collection at the Graduate Theological Union. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

03-25
39:01

Faith on Edge: Taiwanese Christianity in North America

Could Taiwan become the Ukraine of Asia? How are Taiwanese Christians in North America responding to the geo-political uncertainties of Taiwan’s relationship to China? The May 15, 2022 mass shooting at the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, California was, in part, a reflection of the fraught debates about the future of Taiwan. Also, how is the next generation of Taiwanese Christians experiencing the forces of assimilation in North America? In the face of possible erasure in Asian and North America, will or should Taiwanese Christian identity survive?In this deep dive episode of the Pearl Dive podcast, Tim Tseng talks to Shirley Lung, Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of Denver, about the story of Christianity in Taiwan and North America. This fits right into her research about transnational Taiwanese Christianities in the United States and Taiwan. Shirley’s broader research agenda includes religious nationalism, ethnicity, and politics. This interview was recorded on Feb. 26, 2025.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.LINKS* Shirley Lung, “Taiwanese Churches in Diaspora and Ethnic Identity Formation,” International Bulletin of Mission Research, 2024 Vol. 48:3 367­ –382* 2022 Laguna Woods shooting on Wikipedia.* “How many Taiwanese live in the U.S.? It’s not an easy question to answer,” Pew Research Center.* Carolyn Chen, “From Filial Piety to Religious Piety: Evangelical Christianity Reconstructing Taiwanese Immigrant Families in the United States,” International Migration Review. Vol. 40:3 (Fall, 2006), 573-602.* Catherine Lila Chou and Mark Harrison, Revolutionary Taiwan: Making Nationhood in a Changing World Order (Cambria, 2024) | Apple PodcastThanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

03-18
40:23

Trailblazer for Unity: Louis Lee and MESA (Part 2)

We live in an era of platform building and social influencers. Having a fan base is not the same as creating unity. What does one of the most important trailblazers promoting Asian American evangelical unity in the 1990s and 2000s say about what it takes to build unity? In the second part of this podcast, we talk to Pastor Louis Lee further about his ministry journey. Then we’ll hear why he started the Ministry for English speaking Asians (MESA) and discover some important pearls of wisdom that he gleaned while building unity in the Asian American church.This conversation was recorded on November 12, 2023. Please note that since the interview, Louis Lee has officially “retired” as a pastor. But he remains active in ministry as a supporter of pastors.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.LINKS* L.A. Times article, “Asian American pastors minister across culture gap” by Connie Kang (Sept. 29, 2007)* Interview with Louis Lee (Nov. 20, 2015) by Grace Hsiao on AsianAmericanChristian.org.Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work.This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

03-11
22:26

Trailblazer for Unity: Louis Lee and MESA (Part 1)

How many times have you heard that Asian American identity is not a thing. Some think that it's a label that's imposed on very different peoples. Others, especially immigrants, think that it refers only to the American-born or acculturated. And yet to embrace Asian American identity means admitting that there is something that unifies more than 26 million Americans with ancestral roots in Asia.One of the most important trailblazers promoting Asian American evangelical unity in the 1990s and 2000s is Pastor Louis Lee and the Ministry for English speaking Asians (MESA). We talk to Louis about the lessons he learned while working for unity in the Asian American church. In today's episode, we’ll hear how he started MESA and learn a bit about his personal journey.This conversation was recorded on November 12, 2023. Please note that since the interview, Louis Lee has officially “retired” as a pastor. But he remains active in ministry as a supporter of pastors.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.LINKS* Interview with Louis Lee (Nov. 20, 2015) by Grace Hsiao on AsianAmericanChristian.org.Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work.This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

03-04
24:43

When Protestants had Empathy. A Conversation with Randi Walker (2/2)

Can we restore the Golden Rule to the American public conscience? It will probably take a renewed grass root movement of people who are stubbornly faithful to Jesus’ command to love the neighbor.In today’s Deep Dive episode, Tim Tseng and Randi Walker continue last week’s conversation about Protestant advocacy for civil rights in Seattle, Washington in the 1940s and 1950s. Her 2012 book,  Religion and the Public Conscience, Ecumenical Civil Rights Work in Seattle, 1940-1960 show how the Seattle Council of Churches and the Christians and Friends for Racial Equality fought for racial justice in the years before the civil rights movement.Today we talk about ecumenical Protestant efforts in Seattle to secure a peaceful and just community in an emerging city with a significant Filipino, Chinese, and Japanese American presence. We also learn how Asian American Christians played important roles in shaping a public moral conscience in Seattle.This post is public so feel free to share it.*This conversation was recorded on September 25, 2023.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support our work.LINKS* Joanna Phillips, “Christian Friends for Racial Equality, 1942-1970,” The Seattle Civil Rights and Labor History Project (University of Washington).* Anne M. Blankenship, Christianity, Social Justice, and the Japanese American incarceration during World War II (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2016).* James F. Findlay, Jr., Church People in the Struggle: The National Council of Churches and the Black Freedom Movement, 1950-1970 (Oxford University Press, 1991)* Video: A Church Stands Up With Its People. From Mitch Homma.* Stephanie Hinnershitz. Race, Religion, and Civil Rights: Asian Students on the West Coast, 1900-1968. (Rutgers University Press, 2015).* Sarah M. Griffith, The Fight for Asian American Civil Rights: Liberal Protestant Activism, 1900-1950 (University of Illinois, 2018).* Jennifer C. Snow, Protestant Missionaries, Asian Immigrants, and Ideologies of Race in America, 1850-1924 (New York: Routledge, 2007) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

02-25
27:28

When Protestants had Empathy: A Conversation with Randi Walker (1/2)

Most American Christians voted for the current administration and Congress, despite their potentially negative impact on people of color, the poor, and other vulnerable communities (not to mention a constitutional crisis). In his book, The End of Empathy: Why White Protestants Stopped Loving Their Neighbors, John Compton says that American Protestants stopped loving their neighbors when they lost their cultural dominance in the 1970s. Prior to that, perceived threats to White Protestant dominance often resulted in powerful movements that scapegoated, excluded, and erased the non-Protestant and “heathen other” rather than seeking the common good. But… there were also many Christians who remained stubbornly faithful to Jesus’ command to love the neighbor despite majority opposition.In today and next week’s “deep dive” episodes of the Pearl Dive, Tim Tseng and Randi Walker talk about Protestant advocacy for civil rights in Seattle, Washington in the 1940s and 1950s. Her 2012 book,  Religion and the Public Conscience, Ecumenical Civil Rights Work in Seattle, 1940-1960 shows how the Seattle Council of Churches and the Christians and Friends for Racial Equality fought for racial justice in the years before the civil rights movement. As part of these organizations and networks, Asian American Christians also played important roles in shaping a public moral conscience in Seattle.Today, we get acquainted with Randi, talk about mainline Protestants, and discuss the emerging racial-ethnic landscape of Seattle prior to World War II. Next week, we will learn about ecumenical Protestant efforts in Seattle to secure a peaceful and just community in an emerging city with a significant Filipino, Chinese, and Japanese American presence.*This conversation was recorded on September 25, 2023.This season of Pearl Dive was brought to you by the Asian American Christian History Institute (AACHI) at the Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center and with the support of the KT Foundation.LINKS* Joanna Phillips, “Christian Friends for Racial Equality, 1942-1970,” The Seattle Civil Rights and Labor History Project (University of Washington).* John W. Compton, The End of Empathy: Why White Protestants Stopped Loving Their Neighbors (New York: Oxford University Press, 2020). | Podcast* Kathryn Gin Lum. Heathen: Religion and Race in American History (Harvard University Press, 2022).* Nicholas T. Pruitt, Open Hearts, Closed Doors: Immigration Reform and the Waning of Mainline Protestantism (New York: New York University Press, 2021).* Mark Wild, Renewal: Liberal Protestants and the American City after World War II (University of Chicago Press, 2019). | Podcast* Gene Zubovich, Before the Religious Right Liberal Protestants, Human Rights, and the Polarization of the United States (University of Pennsylvania, 2022). This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

02-18
30:07

Leon Siu declares Hawaiian Independence (2/2)

Here is part two of the Pearl Cast with H.E. Leon Siu, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Hawaiian Kingdom. In this part of our interview we discuss the ethics of visiting Hawai’i, how Mr. Siu got involved with the Hawaiian Independence movement, and his work with other Pacific Island Nations.Watch this video, “Holy Spirit Fiya,” from Urbana 2015 for a live example of what happens when indigenous people’s gather to worship the Lord together and in their own languages. The song is by Leon Siu’s pastor, Kahu Moani Ninod-Sitch and sung in languages such as Yu’pik, Hawaiian, Samoan, Lakota and others. The interview was recorded on October 1, 2023. This season’s podcast series was brought to you with the support of the KT Foundation. Links to resources can be found below.Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it.LINKS* Leon Siu, Interview on Centering podcast with Jane Hong and Tim Tseng (Jan. 21, 2021): Native Hawaiians: Independence and Christianity. | Apple Podcast* Leon Siu, The Future of the Hawaiian Kingdom [VIDEO]* Leon Siu, An Open Letter to the Church in Hawaii Ne (2007)* Leon Siu, A Biblical View of Hawaiian Sovereignty (2005)* Christian Heritage Hawaii [HeritageHawaii.org]* Inaugural World Christian Gathering of Indigenous People [VIDEO]* Daniel Kikawa, Perpetuated in Righteousness: The Journey of the Hawaiian People From Eden to the Present Time (Aloha Ke Akua Publishing, 1994).* Daniel Kikawa, The True God of Hawaiʻi: The Case for ʻĪo (Aloha Ke Akua Publishing, 2021).* Ronald Williams Jr., “Christianity in Hawaiʻi,” Oxford Research Encyclopedia of Religion (Oxford University Press, Oct 2017)* Noenoe K. Silva, Aloha Betrayed: Native Hawaiian Resistance to American Colonialism (Durham & London: Duke University Press, 2004)* Candace Fujikane and Jonathan Y. Okamura, editors, Asian Settler Colonialism: From Local Governance to the Habits of Everyday Life in Hawai‘i (Honolulu: University of Hawai‘i Press, 2008) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

02-11
29:02

Leon Siu declares Hawaiian Independence (1/2)

Welcome to the inaugural episode of Pearl Dive, a podcast from Fuller Seminary’s Asian American Church History Institute (AACHI). If you have ever wondered about how your ethnic heritage meets faith or about the history of Hawaii, this episode is for you. In the first two episodes of Pearl Dive, Fiel Sahir talks to Leon Siu, Foreign Minister for the Hawaiian Kingdom, about Christianity in Hawaii. Mr. Siu discusses the indigenous Christian spirituality in the first episode and the Independence movement in the second. The interview was recorded on October 1, 2023. This season’s podcast series was brought to you with the support of the KT Foundation.Links to resources can be found below. LINKS* Leon Siu, Interview on Centering podcast with Jane Hong and Tim Tseng (Jan. 21, 2021): Native Hawaiians: Independence and Christianity. | Apple Podcast* Leon Siu, The Future of the Hawaiian Kingdom [VIDEO]* Leon Siu, An Open Letter to the Church in Hawaii Ne (2007)* Leon Siu, A Biblical View of Hawaiian Sovereignty (2005)* Christian Heritage Hawaii [HeritageHawaii.org]* Inaugural World Christian Gathering of Indigenous People [VIDEO]* Daniel Kikawa, Perpetuated in Righteousness: The Journey of the Hawaiian People From Eden to the Present Time (Aloha Ke Akua Publishing, 1994).* Daniel Kikawa, The True God of Hawaiʻi: The Case for ʻĪo (Aloha Ke Akua Publishing, 2021).* Ronald Williams Jr., “Christianity in Hawaiʻi,” Oxford Research Encyclopedia of Religion (Oxford University Press, Oct 2017) * Noenoe K. Silva, Aloha Betrayed: Native Hawaiian Resistance to American Colonialism (Durham & London: Duke University Press, 2004)* Candace Fujikane and Jonathan Y. Okamura, editors, Asian Settler Colonialism: From Local Governance to the Habits of Everyday Life in Hawai‘i (Honolulu: University of Hawai‘i Press, 2008)Thanks for reading Pearl Dive, AACHI's digital platform! This post is public so feel free to share it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

02-04
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Trailer. Pearl Dive Podcast is coming!

Hey friends! I’m Tim Tseng and I’m the director of the Asian American Christian History Institute at Fuller Theological Seminary’s Asian American Center.It’s the day before Lunar New Year 2025 and I have an exciting announcement to make. We will launch the Pearl Dive Podcast next week. The Pearl Dive substack and podcast are the digital platforms of the Asian American Christian History Institute or AACHI. AACHI was started to uncover the hidden pearls of Asian American Christian history.Though I celebrate the growth of Asian American history over the last forty years, the pearls of Asian American Christianity remain deeply hidden in the oyster bed of American and world history.That’s why we want the public to know our Asian American Christian stories. Our histories can inspire and infuriate, affirm and challenge, educate and correct - for the benefit of the Church and the common good.So come and have a listen to the Pearl Dive Podcast! For this first season, Fiel Sahir and I will talk to people who played significant roles in the histories of Hawaiian and Asian American faith communities. We’ll also talk to folks who have given some thought to or who have researched these histories.This might be the first podcast ever to focus on Asian American Christian history, so I anticipate a few bumps. But I’m really excited to have this chance to share these stories.Please check fulleraachi.substack.com for more updates!Have a happy Lunar New Year everybody! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit fulleraachi.substack.com

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