Pep Talks for Artists

*Disclaimer: This episode is meant to be funny and Amy would love to attend any of the aforementioned residencies. Please accept her if you find yourself on a panel. End disclaimer.*Just got rejected from an artists' residency? Well, this is the mini-episode for you because I am going to let you in on a little technique I use to feel better. There's a curse word abundantly used throughout, so listen far away from small ears, Dear Listener!(Unless the small ears are pets-pets don't have language centers in their brains so it's safe.)I was a bit harsh on St Martin in the ep, and he did do a bit more than I gave him credit for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_de_Porres ... but he's still a deep cut.Did I tell you that my confirmation name was "Melania"? Didn't age well!Thank you!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

This is a little episode about how I think a one-of-a-kind whale is kind of like the 16th -17th century Mannerist artist El Greco, and also like us. It sounds a little far fetched but admit it, you like me when I’m weird, you weirdo’sEl Greco:Artworks mentioned: “The Vision of St John” 1608-14 and "View of Toledo" 1599-1600 (El Greco), “Les Desmoiselles D’Avignon" 1907 (Picasso), "Rocks at Fontainbleu" 1890's (Cézanne)Artists mentioned: Vincent Van Gogh, Paul Cézanne, Hilma Af Klint, Pablo Picasso, Eugène De la Croix, Salvador Dali, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, Diego Velázquez, Titian, Tintoretto, Ignacio ZuloagaWriters mentioned: Emily Dickinson, Franz Kafka, Roger FryLearn more about El Greco's figurine models with a fascinating lecture by Xavier Bray for the Frick Collection: https://youtu.be/_8xYkflNbU0?si=eCIL_P-tFdtPbDmOThe Whale:Watch the documentary: https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/loneliest-whale?frontend=kuiArticles:https://www.forbes.com/sites/scotttravers/2025/02/01/the-52-hertz-whale-is-the-loneliest-animal-in-the-world-heres-what-we-know/https://www.iflscience.com/fact-check-has-the-world-s-loneliest-whale-finally-found-a-friend-65797https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/13https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/inside-the-nail-biting-quest-to-find-the-loneliest-whale/Thanks for listening!Greek music "Greek Bouzouki Sentimental 13" by Omegamusic / Marios Georgiades / Nicosia, CyprusWhale songs courtesy of PMEL Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory All other music and sound effects by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

::CW: during the Kathe Kollwitz section, we discuss a print dealing with sexual assault::Jennifer and I are back with our bushel baskets of researched artists of the past to soothe our shattered nerves. Tune in to hear about 6 artists that made exceptional work under strained circumstances: Käthe Kollwitz, John of Arderne - medieval surgeon and margin doodler, Gustav Metzger, William Gropper, David Hammons and Joan Miró.Käthe Kollwitz notes:"Käthe Kollwitz" exhibtion at MOMA May-June 2024Emile Zola's novel "Germinal" 1885"Scene from 'Germinal" 1893"A Weavers' Revolt" series 1893-1897Gerhart Hauptmann's play "The Weavers" 1892"The Mothers" 1918"Never Again" 1924"R-ped" 1907Francisco de Goya's "Disasters of War" series Otto Dix "Der Krieg" 1924John of Arderne notes:Medical Treatises England: c.1376, re-copied and 1475-1500Sp Coll MS Hunter 251 (U.4.9) (see more here and here)Misericord seatrest carvings in English medieval churchesGustave Metzger notes:The Viennese ActionistsArtist, David Bomberg"Auto-destructive Art" 1961 London performance"Flailing Trees" 2009"Remember Nature" 2015"Table" c.1957-8The Fluxus movementDocumentary "Lifeline: Clyfford Still"William Gropper notes:"America: It's Folklore" 1946Francisco de Goya's "Los Caprichos" series 1798French political artist, Honoré Daumier"Blacklist" and "Environment" from Gropper's Capriccios series 1953–57David Hammons notes:"The Melt Goes on Forever: The Art & Times of David Hammons" Documentary 2022Artist, Charles WhiteArtist, Betye Saar"Bliz-aard Ball Sale" Performance New York, NY 1983"Body Prints" 1968–1979"Hair and Wire, Venice Beach" 1977"Untitled" circa 1980s"Higher Goals" 1983; 1986"Untitled (Night Train)" 1989Artist, Rachel WhitereadJoan Miró notes:Ballet RussesArtist, Henri Matisse"Mori el Merma" (Death to Merma) Theatrical collaboration with the Barcelona puppet troupe, La Claca, headed by Joan Baixas 1978 (watch here)"Ubu Roi" by Alfred Jarry 1896 Artist, Meg LipkeCurrent studio daemons: olm, volcano snail, and a rare algae of Blick Mead called HildenbrandiaThank you, Jennifer!Jennifer' website: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/ Jennifer on IG: https://www.instagram.com/jennifercoates666/All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Today's episode is a special conversation and recap of Elisabeth Condon and my experiences collaborating as visual artists in the ballet project CounterPointe (now in its 12th year) produced by Norte Maar and staged at the Mark O'Donnell Theater (Brooklyn) in March 2025. Jennifer Coates kindly came on to ask us questions about making props and what it was like for 2 newbies to enter the world of dance. Thanks, Jennifer!Special thanks also to Norte Maar and its co-directors, Julia K. Gleich and Jason Andrew for their support of artists and creative collaboration.More information about Elisabeth and Amy's work:Elisabeth: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ | @elisabethcondonAmy: https://www.amytalluto.com/ | @tallutsMore information about Julia Gleich and Jason Andrew's NorteMaar & CounterPointe12: https://www.nortemaar.org/projects/counterpointe12Julia K. Gleich's website: https://www.gleichdances.org/Julia Gleich interview on this podcast: Episode 49The dances we discussed:"Vermillion | 10" by Ava Desiderio and Elisabeth CondonDancers: Minami Ando, Lucia BeteluSupport structures: Elise WunderlichMusic by Zero Eklipse and William Pilarte Lighting: Evan SpigelmanMark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025"And So It Begins" by Margaret Wiss and Amy TallutoDancers: Maya Tsuruki Holden and Jaclyn KriewallMusic by Margaret WissLighting: Evan SpigelmanMark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025"46 Gordon" by Julia K. Gleich and Nicole CherubiniDancers: Michelle Buckley, Kara Chan, Annie Freeman, Amber Neff, Ethan Schweitzer-GaslinLighting: Evan SpigelmanMark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025Special thanks to Jennifer Coates for interviewing us! Jennifer's website: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/Jennifer on IG: @jennifercoates666Artists mentioned: Henri Matisse, William Kentridge, Florine Stettheimer, Keisha Prioleau Martin, Meg Lipke, Elana Herzog, Nicole Cherubini, Alvin Ailey, Judith Jamison (Dancer), Julia K. Gleich (Choreographer), Jason AndrewDances mentioned: "Afternoon of a Faun" by the Ballet Russes, “Minutiae” (1954) Robert Rauschenberg and Merce Cunningham, "Cry" Alvin AileyVideo mentioned: "How to Make Theater Props" by Eric Bucklein (not actually old but young) https://youtu.be/JSl5Vc8mej0?si=KWGdOxnijBiEEGZcBook mentioned: Inigo Philbrick "All That Glitters: A Story of Friendship, Fraud, and Fine Art"Exhibition mentioned: "Edges of Ailey" at the WhitneyAll music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks website: ⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

In this audio essay, I roam from post-war France to the abstract expressionists to the artists of the East Village and even to outer space to consider times in art history when art was forced to bloom in the dark. These under-the-radar moments yielded deeply experimental work, and I wonder how we might channel some of that spirit in our own time.Artists mentioned: Laurie Anderson, Joan Miro, Jean Dubuffet, Marcel Duchamp, David Wojnarowicz, and Judy GlantzmanScientists mentioned: Robert H Dicke, Jim PeeblesJim Peebles interviewed by Alan Lightman for the American Institute of Physics January 19, 1988 Princeton, NJ: https://www.aip.org/history-programs/niels-bohr-library/oral-histories/33957All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks website: https://www.peptalksforartists.com/Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

I'm offering for you here a new mini ep about what I've been thinking about lately: the wackiness of Meret Oppenheim's titles - and how they expand the mystery of her images rather than explain them. I recently snagged the catalog from the Moma retrospective show from last year and highly recommend it if you don't have it yet. It's full of lovely color plates: https://store.moma.org/products/meret-oppenheim-my-exhibition-hardcover But I think cheaper ones are on Amazon?Here are some images from the exhibition online too: https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5368Some art news:Tickets for CounterPointe12, a collaborative art ballet in Brooklyn March 8-9, 2025!Check out "Mythology/Matriarchy" at the Middle Room Gallery in Los Angeles (Glendale) March 14 - April 27, 2025All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

This is Part 2 of Mandolyn Wilson Rosen and my review of "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" 2019 directed by Dennis Scholl. It's a juicy art bio tell-all with a crusty curmudgeon as its talented but embittered subject. Don't forget to listen to Part 1 too! Find the film on Amazon ($2.99 SD) or for free on ⁠Kanopy⁠ Find Mandolyn online at: ⁠https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com⁠ and on IG at ⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠ Artists mentioned: Philip Guston, Barnett Newman, Jackson Pollock, Willem DeKooning, Frank Stella, Donald Judd, Paul Cezanne, Ad Reinhardt, Mark Rothko, Thomas Hart Benton, Art Problems Podcast Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Listeners! Visit RuthAnn, a new artist-run gallery in Catskill, NY at @ruthanngallery and ruthanngallery.com All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠amytalluto.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back on the podcast! This time, instead of a book we are talking about an artist documentary. The film is called "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" 2019 directed by Dennis Scholl. It's a juicy art bio tell-all with a crusty curmudgeon as its talented but embittered subject. Come along with us as we enter a turbulently Still world. Find the film on Amazon ($2.99 SD) or for free on KanopyFind Mandolyn online at: https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com and on IG at @mandolyn_rosenLinks to the writings we mentioned:Clyfford Still's "An Open Letter to an Art Critic" on Artforumhttps://www.artforum.com/features/an-open-letter-to-an-art-critic-212151/David Levi Strauss for Brooklyn Rail "From Metaphysics to Invective"https://brooklynrail.org/2012/05/art/from-metaphysics-to-invective-art-criticism-as-if-it-still-matters/Seph Rodney for Hyperallergic "Hoping is Not Enough"https://hyperallergic.com/983414/hoping-is-not-enough/Artists mentioned: Matthew Barney, Jackson Pollock, Mark Rothko, Barnett Newman, Lois Dodd, Julian Schnabel, Mark Bradford, Julie Mehretu, Frank Stella, Ellsworth Kelly, Michelle GrabnerWriters mentioned: Seph Rodney, Paul Valéry, John Ruskin, Guillaume Apollinaire, John Ruskin, David Levi Strauss, Dore Ashton, Jerry Saltz, Ken Johnson, Clement Greenberg, Emily Dickinson's "'Hope' is the thing with feathers" Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Listeners!Visit RuthAnn, a new artist-run gallery in Catskill, NY at @ruthanngallery and ruthanngallery.comAll music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠amytalluto.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Jennifer Coates is back with me this week to cohost Part 4 of our series about researching our way to feeling better as artists. This time we go all the way back to 1306 to the Mongol empire and then zoom forward to the 1970's in the USSR and with a few more stops in between. We studied hard (and maybe got C minuses) but we ended up feeling inspired and hope you will too. The artists we spoke about:Zheng Sixiao of Southern China's Song Dynasty, "Ink Orchid" 1306, during Mongol Empire (Yuan Dynasty) under Kublai Kasimir Malevich of Russia/USSR, "Black Square" 1915, "Girls in a Field" 1928-30, "Female Worker" 1933, Russian icon paintingsThe Bulldozer Exhibition, 15 September 1974 and Oskar Rabin "Lamp and Shawl" 1974 & Lidya Masterkova "Untitled" 1974 of the Leonozovo Group, Photographs by Mikhail Abrosimov/ The Calvert JournalRead more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/17/bulldozer-underground-exhibition-revolutionised-russian-art https://www.edelman.com/insights/bulldozer-exhibition-my-eyewitness-account-russian-repression-6-amClaude Cahun of Jersey (Channel Islands/France), Partner/Collaborator, Marcel Moore, "I am in training, don't kiss me" 1927, "What do you want from me?" 1929, "Self Portrait" 1939The Nahua People of the Aztec Empire and the Florentine Codex: https://florentinecodex.getty.edu/ - facilitated by Franciscan Monk, Bernardino de Sahagún, Deep dive into the Codex with Dr. Diana Magaloni Kerpel, Deputy Director, Program Director, and Dr. Virginia Fields Curator of the Art of the Ancient Americas at the LA County Museum of Art (LACMA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUfg_WQwvMgGee's Bend Quilters of Alabama and their organization Souls Grown Deep: https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/Other artists mentioned:Elisabeth Condon, Piet Mondrian**Disclaimer: As we are not historians by trade, some factual errors may have slipped through. Apologies if so **Jennifer Coates online: ⁠⁠web⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠IG⁠⁠Amy Talluto online: ⁠⁠web⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠IG⁠⁠Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠amytalluto.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Welcome back, Elisabeth! This time I am very excited to be speaking to Artist, Elisabeth Condon, about one of my favorite Chicago Imagists: Christina Ramberg. The Art Institute of Chicago recently mounted a retrospective of Ramberg's work and Elisabeth travelled to see the show this past summer. She spent time telling me about her favorite works, but also offered insight into Ramberg's personality and teaching style - as Elisabeth was her student in graduate school at SAIC in the late 80's. Ramberg is known for her small but tightly-wound acrylic paintings of disembodied women: truncated torsos, legless high heels shoes, floating suits, and body-less corsets, but also produced quilts and a series of satellite paintings shortly before she died at 49 of Pick's disease. See more images from the Art Institute retrospective here: ⁠https://www.artic.edu/exhibitions/9723/christina-ramberg-a-retrospective⁠ Barry Schwabsky's review in The Nation: ⁠https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/christina-rambergs-public-secrets/⁠ Riva Lehrer AIC Lecture on YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0afNYv3mfqo&t=2812s⁠ Thea Liberty Nichols AIC Lecture on YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ps_oQnrvs⁠ Julia Fish, Rebecca Shore and Judith Russi Kirshner AIC Panel on YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQzpGJGot-k⁠ Find Artist, Elisabeth Condon online here: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/elisabethcondon/ Ramberg's artworks mentioned: "Untitled" 1980, Satellite Paintings "Untitled 122" 1986, "Istrian River Lady" 1974, "Probed Cinch" 1971, "Troubled Sleeve" 1974, "Bound Hand" 1973, "Untitled Hand" 1975, "Corset/Urns" 1970, "Lola La Lure" 1969, "Cabbage Head" 1968, "Belle Rêve" 1969, Quilt works, and "Satellite" series of the late 80's, Playboy Commission 1972 "Untitled", "Shadow Panel" 1972 Artists mentioned: Paula Modersohn-Becker, Utamaro "Two Girls with a Cricket Box," Jimmy Wright, Phillip Hanson, Jeff Koons, Ed Paschke, Mike Kelly, Erling Sjovold, Jackie Kazarian, Christopher Williams, Maureen P. Sherlock, Lori Gunn (Wirsum), Karl Wirsum, Roger Brown, William Eckhardt Kohler, Karl Kelly, Jackie Saccoccio, Jackie Cheng, Helen O'Leary, Helen O'Toole, Barbara Rossi, Ray Yoshida, Judith Russi Kirshner, Julia Fish, Riva Lehrer, Rebecca Shore Others noted: Muriel Newman (Collector), Kanye West, Edith Wharton, Corbett VS Dempsey Gallery, Rozsika Parker and Griselda Pollock's "Old Mistresses: Women, Art and Ideology" All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠amytalluto.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Artist, Jennifer Coates is back for Part 3 in our series about finding artistic resilience through research! This time we look at these artists and how they adapted to their own gloomy times of foreboding: Kay Sage: Found a way to paint even though she was a victim of domestic violence and ignored by the art world, and used her money to help Surrealist artists flee Germany and France before WWII Grete Stern: Sneakily slipped in feminist art into a fluffy women's magazine under the Peronist regime Jacob Lawrence: Illustrated injustices and acts of racism not covered by the history books Frederic Edwin Church: Painted an emblem that many thought symbolized the coming Civil War Works mentioned: Kay Sage works: "This Morning" 1939, "China Eggs" Autobiography, "I Saw Three Cities" 1944, "A Bird in the Room" 1955, "Destiny" a poem Grete Stern works: "Los Sueños: Muñecos (Dreams: The Doll)" 1949 for Idilio Magazine (Argentina) Jacob Lawrence works: "The Life of Toussaint Louverture," "Migration" and "Struggle" Series Frederic Edwin Church works: "Meteor" 1860, with writers/poets: Herman Melville's "The Portent" 1859, Walt Whitman's "Year of Meteors" 1860 and "Crossing Brooklyn Ferry" 1856 (both "Leaves of Grass") Special thanks to art historian and Senior Curator at the Smithsonian, Eleanor Harvey, for her presentation on the Civil War - from which I got most of my information on the meteor and its effects on the culture then: https://www.youtube.com/live/3r1_xWV1ICU?si=QtC2xKeHq7oHzNfQ Other artists mentioned: André Breton, Fra Angelico, Piero della Francesca **Disclaimer: As we are not historians by trade, some factual errors may have slipped through. Apologies if so ** Jennifer Coates online: ⁠web⁠ and ⁠IG⁠ Amy Talluto online: ⁠web⁠ and ⁠IG⁠ Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠amytalluto.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Visit glögg glögg, a POP up ART sale, Dec 13-14 in Woodstock NY: website or IG---------------What can an artist do during times of political unrest and instability? In this episode (Part 2 of our series), we aim to find out. Jennifer Coates joins me again to share some stories from the past of how artists coped throughout history, because somehow research is very reassuring right now! We looked at the ways these specific artists reflected and reacted to their time:Goya: Made his most honest work in secretDave Drake: Created signed pottery and poetry and used them to comment on his life and times, even though enslavedOtto Dix: Painted the horrors of the past in order to warn society against repeating themMario Mafai: Documented destruction of housing under FascismFelix Nussbaum: Painted even while hiding from the GestapoPiet Mondrian: Built a controlled world of harmony and equilibrium to escape toGeorge Grosz: Openly lampooned everyone in power & the mediaFrancisco de Goya works: "Goya's Graphic Imagination" exhibition at the Met 2021, "Disasters of War" Etchings 1810-20, "Still Life of a Lambs Head and Flanks" 1812, "The Black Paintings" incl "Saturn Devouring His Son" 1823, "The Dog" 1823, and "Witches Sabbath" 1823Dave Drake: all examples of stoneware jugs and vesselsOtto Dix works: "The Trench" 1923, "War Cripples" 1920, "The Skull" 1924, "Mealtime in the Trenches" 1924Mario Mafai works: "Demolition" 1936, "Destruction of the Neighborhoods" 1939Felix Nussbaum works: "Self-Portrait with Jewish Identity Card" 1943, "Death Triumphant" 1944Piet Mondrian work: "Tableau 1, Lozenge with Four Lines and Gray" 1926George Grosz work: "Pillars of Society" 1926Other artists/movements mentioned: DeStijl Movement, Futurist Movement, Dada Movement, Yves TanguayPart 3 is out now!**Disclaimer: As we are not historians by trade, some factual errors may have slipped through. Apologies if so **Jennifer Coates online: web and IGAmy Talluto online: web and IGThank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners!All music by Soundstripe----------------------------Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠⁠⁠Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠amytalluto.com⁠⁠⁠Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Jennifer Coates, friend of the pod, is back to help me consider a new way forward (artwise) after the destabilizing event of the US election. She, herself, is finding comfort in the long history of rocks, geology and the cosmos, while I find myself turning to a book about how Matisse and his daughter, Marguerite, both reacted to the trauma of WWII in opposite yet valid ways. It's a bit of a potpourri, but we promise some great galvanizing art historical quotes and an inspiring double pep talk for the ages. Alternative title of ep: Rock Paper Scissors! Come hang out with us! Media mentions: The Weekly Show w Jon Stewart (ep with Heather Cox Richardson), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on IG/Tiktok Rock mentions: The Makapansgat pebble, Paleo "Venuses," Venus de Willendorf, baetyl stones, "The Living Stones" by Ithell Colquhoun, Paul Cezanne's drawings of Fontainbleu Quarry/MOMA show , John Elderfield and Terry Winters discuss Cezanne's Rock and Quarry Paintings for the Brooklyn Rail ,  "Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks" by Marcia Bjornerud, new minerals elalite and elkinstantonite discovered in 2022 in Somalia from a meteorite Art mentions: Cat Balco, Adie Russell, Elisabeth Condon, Pierre Bonnard, Edvard Munch & "White Night" 1900, Dada Movement, Hannah Hoch & “Cut with the Kitchen Knife," Man Ray, "Matisse the Master" by Hilary Spurling, "The Unknown Matisse" by Hilary Spurling, Henri Matisse ”Bathers by a River" 1917 and "The Chapelle du Rosaire de Vence" 1947-51, "Verve Magazine" Issue No 8 Vol 2 (1940), "Les Fleurs de Mal" Baudelaire/Matisse poetry book, Marguerite Matisse, Max Beckmann Jennifer's website and IG: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/ @jennifercoates666 Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠amytalluto.com⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

This bonus episode is a promotion for NYC Crit Club's "The Canopy Program" 2025, a year-long mentorship community for artists. Founder and artist, Catherine Haggarty, stopped by the pod to tell me more about what the program offers, who it's for, and which artists she has on deck to lead the cohorts next year. Applications for The Canopy Program are open Monday, December 9th - January 12, 2025 Quick Links: RSVP for Zoom Info Sessions (Dec 3, 10, 12 and Jan 3, 6) The Canopy Program website The Canopy Program on IG The Canopy Program is a year-long intimate mentorship program, providing artists access to work exclusively with a Faculty Mentor and a Cohort of 10 artists for three consecutive semesters (Spring, Summer + Fall 2025). Together, as a Cohort, artists will meet regularly for critiques, discussions, artist talks, and resource-building in professional practices, workshops, and lectures! Each Cohort features an esteemed roster of invited Guest Speakers + Visiting Artists/Critics/Gallerists.  2025 Mentors Rose Nestler @rose.nestler⁠ (⁠⁠virtual) Matt Phillips @themattphillips ⁠(⁠⁠virtual) Erika Ranee @erikaranee ⁠(⁠⁠virtual) Adrienne Elise Tarver @adrienne__elise⁠ ⁠(⁠⁠virtual) Amy Lincoln @amyplincoln⁠ ⁠(⁠⁠in person) Sara Jimenez @saraegj (⁠in person) Virtual Cohorts are hosted via Zoom and are open to artists around the globe! In-Person Cohorts are hosted in Chelsea (New York City) and are open to NYC-area Visit nyccritclub.com to learn more & apply! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠peptalksforartists.com⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠amytalluto.com⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

I'm back in the interview seat with Kristen Mills, an artist working in video, sculpture and installation. We discussed her latest show at Turley Gallery where she covered an entire room with cardboard and made it into a spaceship cockpit. Her video work features clones of herself, multiplied, and combines humor and old school editing techniques to create surreal worlds of play and exploration. The digital elements are then ensconced in laboriously-made, intricate cardboard constructions. There's also Glue Tawk and a MacDowell Corner! Tune in! Find Kristen's work online: Web: https://millskristen.com/ IG: @k.millzzzzzzzzzzz Sharpe-Walentas Studio Program on IG: @swstudioprogram (Open Studios in late April 2025) Previous Exhibitions: Turley Gallery: https://www.turley.gallery/kristen-mills-seats-for-everyone Glenlily Grounds: https://www.glenlilygrounds.com/glenlily-grounds-2024 Ortega y Gasset: https://www.oygprojects.com/believability Kristen's videos mentioned: Audience for an Audience, Waiting Room, I Can Reach In, Seats for Everyone, Space Race (featuring artwork by Melissa Dadourian), The Portal with the Cord, Tap Sap, Rock Collecting, Animal Sanctuary Project, Sister Spaceship Live at the Sinkhole w/ Angie Melchin Comedians mentioned: Maria Bamford, Atsuko Okatsuka, Ali Wong, Paula Poundstone, Chris Fleming Movies/TV Mentioned: Strangers with Candy, Pee-wee's Playhouse, Beetlejuice Artist Residencies/Schools Mentioned: Skohegan School of Painting & Sculpture, Vermont Studio Center (VSC), MacDowell and Firth Studio, Amy's secret MacDowell vlog, Columbo's Dog: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sKO_QcKc1eIVTRXyDHryw Glue Tawk™: Kristen uses "Sure Bond" corded hot glue gun and sticks (rumor has it also comes in roll form like a too-long fingernail or ram's horn) “An artist discovers his genius the day he dares not to please.” — André Malraux Thank you, Kristen! Thank you, Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: peptalksforartists.com Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: amytalluto.com Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Dear Listeners, it's spooky season. In that spirit, I offer you this mini episode about taking a mini break from the career grind. Why not instead light a spell candle while getting clear on what we really want? Shelve the "should's" for a bit and get witchy with me. The ending "Goodbye!" (with cacophonous lighting zaps) is Bette Midler from the movie, Hocus Pocus - Iconic Icon. Thank you for listening. All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Charles Burchfield (Chas to his friends) once noted how an oak leaf had fluttered down and stuck upright in the snow in his neighbors yard, like a flag, for the entire winter. It weathered many Buffalo "gales" and storms and thereafter Burchfield used it as a personal symbol of steadfastness. In fact its alternate title is "Steadfast Leaf."  The painting he made of it is attached here "Constant Leaf, also known as Steadfast Leaf" 1960, watercolor and graphite on paper. And, speaking of leaves, I indulge in a short meditation on how the forest floor leaf litter reminds me of the mutual beneficence of a group of artist friends. Hope you enjoy!

Today I'm taking us on a space, art and space-art journey. Because, I've been thinking about how when William Shatner recently went up to space in Bezos' rocket, he saw in real life what he had always pretended to see on TV: space and the final frontier. But to his shock and horror, he...sort of hated it: At least he hated the outer space view. He quaked in the face of all that vast emptiness and ended up with a new appreciation for our warm "Mother" Earth. I.e. "Beam me down, Scotty." And in this way, I think an artist could adopt a William Shatner in Space ideology: and try to appreciate the gifts we each have right now (time, space, adequate health, and freedom to create), versus caving into the dark matter horrors of compare & despair, and worry over not achieving the right career benchmarks. Artists/Works mentioned: "The Creation of the World and the Expulsion from Paradise" by Giovanni di Paolo (1445), "Galaxy (Hydra)" Vija Celmins (1974), "The Moon Museum" Robert Rauschenberg, David Novros, John Chamberlain, Claes Oldenburg, Forrest Myers and Andy Warhol (Possibly sent on the Apollo 12 Moon Mission-1969), "The Wave" by Astronaut, Nicole Stott (2009) William Shatner's book: "Boldly Go: Reflections on a Life of Awe and Wonder" Frank White's book: "The Overview Effect" More about Astronaut, Nicole Stott's first-ever painting in space: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-070816b-astronaut-artist-nicole-stott.html More about The Moon Museum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Museum Thank you for listening! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

We're back! This is the second part of our deep dive on drawing. I asked my artist-guests: Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey and Catherine Haggarty to bring along a fave drawing from art history to share and describe what "drew" them to it (please forgive the pun). It was so fun to see what they selected. See images of all of the works on IG @peptalksforartists The drawings discussed were: 1) "The Grotto of Neptune in Tivoli" ca 1640 by Claude Lorrain 2) Rocks near the caves above Château Noir (Rochers à Bibémus) 1895/00 by Paul Cézanne, Watercolor on paper 18¼ by 12 in. 3) "Moon and Clouds" 1945 by George Ault 4) Ledger Drawing ca. 1875-78 attributed to William Cohoe, Cheyenne, Central Plains, Inscribed "Cheyenne Soldiers" Find my guests online here: David Humprhrey: ⁠web⁠ and ⁠IG⁠ Jennifer Coates: ⁠web⁠ and ⁠IG⁠ Catherine Haggarty: ⁠web⁠ and ⁠IG⁠ See more Ledger Drawings at DonaldEllisGallery.com: https://www.donaldellisgallery.com/offerings/plains-indian-drawings Artists also mentioned: Georges Seurat ("Monkey"), Alexander Cozens, Caspar David Friedrich, Julia Gleich (choreographer) Books mentioned: "Lake Superior" by Lorine Niedecker, "Keeping Time: Plains Indian Ledger Drawings 1865-1900" (pub by Donald Ellis Gallery) Catherine's show "Just Drawing" online at Geary Contemporary: ⁠https://geary.nyc/exhibition/just-drawing-catherine-haggarty/ You can watch the original IG Live video of my guests' panel talk at Geary here: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9qMilKRs-f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==⁠⁠ Thank you for listening! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Join me and my guests: Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey and Catherine Haggarty as we discuss the topic of Drawing this week. This discussion was broken up into 2 parts, so keep an eye out for Part 2 coming soon. In Part 1, we discuss the drawing state of mind, drawing as a form of safety, as a tie to our primitive origins, and as a way to express the multitudes of self. We also dissect painter, Amy Sillman's analogy that Draw-ers are beavers and Painters are birds. Find my guests online here: David Humprhrey: web and IG Jennifer Coates: web and IG Catherine Haggarty: web and IG Catherine's show "Just Drawing" online at Geary Contemporary: https://geary.nyc/exhibition/just-drawing-catherine-haggarty/ Amy Sillman's lecture "Drawing in the Continuous Present" at the Menil Collection can be watched here on youtube: https://youtu.be/BLOgc466nRk?si=RfJ8B0lSD5Sz1OF6 You can watch the original IG Live video of my guests' panel talk at Geary here: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9qMilKRs-f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==⁠ Artists mentioned: Amy Sillman, Sun You, Gary Stephan, The paleo artists of Peche Merle Cave in France, Thomas Nozkowski, Amanda Nedham, Miranda July (interview) Thank you for listening! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: https://www.peptalksforartists.com/ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!