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Author: Dr. Christine Marie Cocchiola

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Dr. Christine Marie Cocchiola, DSW, LCSW is a Coercive Control Educator, Researcher, & Survivor. She has been an advocate since the age of 19, passionate about protecting children from abuse. Yet, even as a therapist, she didn't see the signs in her own relationship. How do we, as protective parents, support our children harmed by the coercive controller (aka Narcissistic Abuser)? Dr. Cocchiola's expertise provides the framework for supporting protective parents as they navigate parenting children harmed by the coercive controller. Protective parents can show their children a path to freedom.
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In this episode of Perfect Prey, Dr. Christine is joined by Kitty Mayo, child advocate and founder of Georgia Protective Parents, for an important conversation about reunification camps, family court, coercive control, and the experiences of protective parents.Kitty shares her family’s experience with the family court system and how her children were ordered into a reunification program following allegations of abuse. She describes what happened during that process and why she believes these programs can be deeply harmful to children and families.Kitty also discusses her advocacy work with Georgia Protective Parents, a nonprofit focused on child safety and legislation affecting children and protective parents. The organization works across political lines and advocates for legislation it believes protects children. Together, Dr. Christine and Kitty explore what reunification programs can look like in practice, the importance of attachment, the use of isolation and coercion, and the lack of transparency and regulation that Kitty says exists within some of these programs.What We Cover• Kitty’s family court experience• Reunification camps and “repair” therapy• The impact of separation on children and attachment• Allegations of abuse and retaliation• Isolation, intimidation, and coercion• The experiences of protective parents• The lack of transparency and regulation surrounding some programs• The financial costs associated with reunification programs• Ethan’s Law and efforts to strengthen protections for children• Grassroots advocacy and contacting legislators• The importance of speaking up and creating systemic changeWhy This Conversation MattersFor protective parents and survivors navigating family court, understanding how reunification programs operate and how children experience these interventions can be incredibly important.Kitty’s story also highlights how advocacy can move beyond individual cases. Through Georgia Protective Parents, she is working with other advocates to raise awareness, support child-safety legislation, and encourage protective parents to use their voices.As Dr. Christine and Kitty discuss throughout the episode, advocacy does not always mean being publicly visible. Sometimes it can be as simple as writing an email, contacting a representative, or sharing your story. About Kitty MayoKitty Mayo is a child advocate and founder of Georgia Protective Parents, a nonprofit organization advocating for legislation and policies focused on child safety. The organization works with both mothers and fathers and describes itself as bipartisan, with a focus on supporting legislation based on its impact on children rather than political party. Connect with Georgia Protective ParentsGeorgia Protective Parents:Instagram & Facebook: Search Georgia Protective ParentsConnect with Dr. Christine CocchiolaProtective Parenting Program:Protective Parenting ProgramWebsite:Coercive Control ConsultingYouTube:Dr. Christine Cocchiola on YouTubeTikTok:Dr. Christine Cocchiola on TikTokInstagram:Dr. Christine Cocchiola on InstagramTEDx:Dr. Christine Cocchiola’s TEDx TalkBooks:FRAMED: Women in the Family Court UnderworldEvery Moment of Every DayIf this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who needs to hear this conversation.— Dr. Christine Cocchiola & Kitty Mayo 🩵
In this episode of Perfect Prey, Dr. Christine is joined by Hope Hooton, child safety advocate and mother, for a deeply important conversation about coercive control, domestic violence, family court, and the urgent need to prioritize child safety.Hope shares the heartbreaking story of her children, Alec and Lydia, and the devastating circumstances surrounding their deaths. She discusses the coercive control, domestic violence, and mental health concerns involved, as well as the warning signs and risk factors that she believes were not adequately recognized by the systems responsible for protecting her children.The conversation also explores how temporary custody decisions can have life-altering consequences when courts fail to fully examine allegations of domestic violence and coercive control. Hope explains what happened in her case and how her experience has shaped the advocacy work she does today.Rather than allowing her grief to be the end of Alec and Lydia’s story, Hope has turned it into a mission to help protect other children and families. She discusses the Alec and Lydia Act, her work with other protective and bereaved mothers, and the changes she believes are necessary to make child safety a true priority in family court.What We Cover• Hope’s story and the loss of Alec and Lydia• Coercive control and domestic violence• Warning signs and lethality risks in custody cases• The role of mental illness, psychosis, and perpetrator behavior• Family court failures and temporary custody orders• Why protective parents’ concerns can be minimized• The importance of recognizing patterns rather than isolated incidents• The Alec and Lydia Act and its focus on child safety• Hope’s advocacy and work alongside other mothers• Turning grief into meaningful systemic changeWhy This Conversation MattersChild safety should always be at the center of custody decisions. Hope’s experience raises important questions about how family courts assess risk, how coercive control is recognized, and what happens when serious concerns raised by protective parents are dismissed or minimized.This conversation is for survivors, protective parents, advocates, attorneys, clinicians, and anyone working toward safer outcomes for children navigating family court.About Hope HootonHope Hooton is a child safety advocate and mother dedicated to protecting children and advocating for family court reform. Following the deaths of her children, Alec and Lydia, Hope has devoted herself to educating others, supporting fellow mothers, and working toward legislation that strengthens protections for children and holds systems accountable.Connect with Hope Hooton📖 Book: Hope Hooton’s Book on Amazon🎙️ Podcast — Voices Against Filicide: Listen on Apple Podcasts🌐 Linktree: Hope Hooton’s Linktree▶️ YouTube: Hope Hooton on YouTube📸 Instagram: Hope Hooton on Instagram📘 Facebook: Hope Hooton on Facebook🎵 TikTok: Hope Hooton on TikTokConnect with Dr. Christine CocchiolaProtective Parenting Program: Protective Parenting ProgramWebsite: Coercive Control ConsultingYouTube: Dr. Christine Cocchiola on YouTubeTikTok: Dr. Christine Cocchiola on TikTokInstagram: Dr. Christine Cocchiola on InstagramTEDx: Dr. Christine Cocchiola’s TEDx TalkBooks: FRAMED: Women in the Family Court Underworld | Every Moment of Every DayIf this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who needs to hear this conversation.— Dr. Christine Cocchiola & Hope Hooton 🩵
In this episode of Perfect Prey, I’m joined by award-winning journalist and author Jess Hill for an important conversation about coercive control, domestic abuse, victim-survivors, children, and post-separation abuse.We explore what coercive control looks like, why it can be difficult to recognize, and how perpetrators maintain power through psychological, emotional, financial, and other forms of abuse. We also discuss how abuse can continue after separation through stalking, harassment, legal systems, and family court.Jess and I examine the impact on children, the importance of recognizing coercive control when assessing risk, and her work toward criminalizing coercive control in Australia—while emphasizing that legal reform is only one part of creating meaningful change for victim-survivors.What we cover• What coercive control actually is—and why it is often misunderstood• How coercive control can be difficult to recognize while you are experiencing it• The psychological and emotional impact of living under coercive control• Why leaving an abusive relationship does not necessarily mean the abuse ends• Post-separation abuse, stalking, harassment, and continued control• How children experience and are affected by coercive control• The ways children can become part of an abusive dynamic• Family court and the challenges faced by victim-survivors navigating legal systems• Why understanding patterns of behavior matters when assessing risk• The importance of listening to victim-survivors and taking coercive control seriously• Jess’s work toward criminalizing coercive control in Australia• Law reform, prevention, and creating meaningful systemic changeWhy listenCoercive control is often misunderstood because it does not always look like what people expect abuse to look like. There may be no single incident that explains what is happening. Instead, control can develop through patterns of behavior that gradually restrict a person’s autonomy, freedom, relationships, and sense of self.This conversation is also about what happens after a victim-survivor leaves. Separation can become another stage of control, particularly when perpetrators use legal systems, children, stalking, or other mechanisms to maintain power.For survivors, protective parents, clinicians, attorneys, advocates, researchers, and anyone trying to better understand coercive control, this episode offers an important conversation about recognizing patterns, understanding risk, and creating systems that better protect victims and children.Guest bioJess Hill is an award-winning Australian journalist and author focused on domestic abuse, coercive control, and gender-based violence. She is the author of See What You Made Me Do, a groundbreaking examination of domestic abuse and coercive control. Through her journalism, research, and advocacy, Jess has helped shape conversations around domestic violence, prevention, and law reform in Australia. Connect with Jess Hill:Instagram: @jessicahelenhillWebsite: www.jesshill.com.auBook: See What You Made Me Do available on AmazonPodcast: www.vwt.org.au/thetrapConnect with Dr. Christine:Protective Parenting Program: Protective Parenting ProgramOfficial site: www.coercivecontrolconsulting.comYouTube: www.TikTok: @dr.c_coercivecontrolInstagram: www.youtube.com/@DrCocchiola-coercivecontrolTEDxTalk: https://youtu.be/gp2qByKOue4?si=jJpjpRewxHD9JdYgBooks:FRAMED: Women in the Family Court UnderworldEvery Moment of Every DayAvailable on Amazon.If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who needs to hear it, subscribe for more trauma-informed conversations, and consider leaving a review. Your support helps other survivors and protective parents find information, validation, and community.— Dr. Christine Cocchiola & guest Jess Hill 
DescriptionIn this episode of Perfect Prey, I’m joined by Jayden Posen, a survivor and advocate who shares her powerful story of coercive control, grooming, sexual violence, trafficking, and systemic failure.Jayden discusses how abuse can begin through manipulation and trust, how perpetrators use psychological tactics to gain control, and what happens when survivors speak up but the systems meant to protect them fail to listen.This conversation is a reminder of why we need to recognize grooming, understand coercive control, and take survivors seriously.What we cover• Jayden’s experiences of sexual violence and systemic failure beginning at age 14• How “boys will be boys” normalizes harmful behavior and prevents accountability• The connection between coercive control, sexual violence, and power• How threats of self-harm can be used as a coercive control tactic• Social media, pornography, misogyny, and the influence of online personalities• Human trafficking, exploitation, and the vulnerabilities within nightlife environments• Why survivors are so often asked the wrong questions• Victim-blaming, silence, and the pressure to protect institutions and reputations• The role of bystanders and the importance of accountability• Why young people need better education around consent, boundaries, power, and healthy relationships• Jayden’s work toward the Nightlife Safety and Accountability ActWhy listenJayden’s story is a powerful reminder that abuse does not always begin with violence. It can begin with grooming, attention, manipulation, threats, and the gradual erosion of a person’s autonomy.This conversation also asks us to look beyond individual incidents and examine the systems, cultural messages, technology, and institutions that can allow abuse to continue.For parents, educators, advocates, clinicians, survivors, and anyone working with young people, this episode offers an important conversation about recognizing coercive control, challenging victim-blaming, and creating environments where accountability matters.Guest bioJayden Posen is a survivor, advocate, and public speaker who uses her lived experience to raise awareness about sexual violence, exploitation, attempted trafficking, coercive control, and systemic failure. After experiencing repeated harm from a young age, Jayden now speaks publicly about survivor advocacy, nightlife safety, accountability, and the need for stronger protections for vulnerable people.She is also developing the Nightlife Safety and Accountability Act, a policy initiative focused on prevention, accountability, trafficking prevention, public safety, and protecting vulnerable people in nightlife environments.Connect with JaydenInstagram: @jaydenposen on InstagramWebsite: JaydenPosen.infoEmail: [email protected] more about Jayden’s advocacy and the Nightlife Safety and Accountability Act through her website and social media.Connect with Dr. Christine:Protective Parenting Program: Protective Parenting ProgramOfficial site: Coercive Control ConsultingYouTube: Dr. Christine Cocchiola on YouTubeTikTok: Dr. Christine Cocchiola on TikTokInstagram: Dr. Christine Cocchiola on InstagramTEDxTalk: It is ALL Coercive Control — TEDxBooks:FramedEvery Moment of Every DayIf this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who needs to hear it, subscribe for more trauma-informed conversations, and consider leaving a review. Your support helps other survivors and protective parents find information, validation, and community.— Dr. Christine Cocchiola & guest Jayden Posen
In this episode of Perfect Prey, I'm joined by Richard Grannon, author of A Cult of One, psychology educator, and internationally recognized voice on narcissistic abuse recovery.Together, we explore one of the most misunderstood questions surrounding coercive control: Why do victims stay? Richard offers a thought-provoking perspective on trauma, attachment, power, and the psychological mechanisms that keep people trapped in abusive relationships. We also discuss how these same dynamics impact children growing up in coercively controlling family systems and why healing requires far more than simply "walking away."This conversation challenges traditional ideas about codependency, explores the concept of the "cult of one," and examines how coercive control creates an environment where victims gradually lose trust in themselves while becoming increasingly dependent on the abuser.What we cover•The psychology behind coercive control•Why victims stay in abusive relationships•The "Cult of One" concept•Trauma bonding and attachment•Codependency versus subjugation•Why children align with abusive parents•Power dynamics in coercively controlling families•Ego resilience and recovery•Betrayal by family court and legal systems•Why understanding abuse is essential for healingWhy listenWhether you're a survivor, protective parent, therapist, attorney, or advocate, this episode offers a deeper understanding of why coercive control is so difficult to recognize—and even harder to escape. Richard Grannon provides a fresh perspective on recovery while challenging long-held assumptions about abuse, trauma, and victimization.Guest BioRichard Grannon is the author of A Cult of One, a psychology educator, speaker, and internationally recognized expert on narcissistic abuse recovery and complex trauma. With a background in behavioral psychology and over a decade of educating survivors worldwide, Richard helps people understand coercive control, establish healthy boundaries, and rebuild their lives after psychological abuse.Connect with Richard GrannonWebsitehttps://richardgrannon.com/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@RichardGrannonInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/richard.grannon/Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/RICHARDGRANNON/X (Twitter)https://x.com/RichardGrannonConnect with Dr. Christine🩵 Protective Parenting Programhttps://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/services/for-parents/Official Websitehttps://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@DrCocchiola-coercivecontrol/videosTikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@dr.c_coercivecontrolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/dr.cocchiola_coercivecontrol/TEDx Talkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp2qByKOue4&t=24sBooksFramedhttps://url-shortener.me/c/FramedBookEvery Moment of Every Dayhttps://url-shortener.me/c/EveryMomentOfEveryDayIf this episode resonated with you, please subscribe, share it with someone who may benefit, and leave a review. Your support helps bring trauma-informed conversations about coercive control to more survivors, professionals, and protective parents.—Dr. Christine Cocchiola & Richard Grannon
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