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Author: Dr. Rebecca Houvener, Psy.D. LCP
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We all encounter personality conflict on a regular basis, whether we know it or not. From funky, can’t-quite-put-my-finger-on-it dynamics with that one friend or family member, to the big blowup drama at work with the last person you’d expect, it all comes down to personality.
Join clinical psychologists, Dr. Rebecca Houvener, Psy.D, (“Doc Bok”) and Dr. Cheyenne Fisher, Psy.D., (“Doc Fish”) biweekly as they unpack the most complex topics like personality disorders and psychopathic behavior, while also making room for lighthearted discussions about personality typologies and humorous anecdotes from private practice. Whether you’re fascinated by personality darkness, a concerned friend or loved one, an “armchair psychologist,” or a licensed professional convinced there is something more going on with patients…. This show is for you.
Join clinical psychologists, Dr. Rebecca Houvener, Psy.D, (“Doc Bok”) and Dr. Cheyenne Fisher, Psy.D., (“Doc Fish”) biweekly as they unpack the most complex topics like personality disorders and psychopathic behavior, while also making room for lighthearted discussions about personality typologies and humorous anecdotes from private practice. Whether you’re fascinated by personality darkness, a concerned friend or loved one, an “armchair psychologist,” or a licensed professional convinced there is something more going on with patients…. This show is for you.
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In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the 6 subtypes of schizotypal personality disorder, according to Dr. Theodore Millon. We outline Millon’s take on “structurally defective structures” as being at risk of falling apart into psychosis at all levels of functioning, with the most severe levels of schizotypal deteriorating into schizophrenia. We then discuss the characteristics of mild, moderate, and severe subtypes, specifically: Disengaged Eccentrics, Apprehensive Eccentrics, the Insipid Schizotypal, the Timorous Schizotypal, the Immobile Schizophrenic, and the Disorganized Schizophrenic.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro & History of Schizotypal Subtypes
02:45 Theodore Millon’s Theory on Schizotypal Personality
07:00 The Mild Eccentric Level
08:21 Disengaged Eccentrics
09:39 Apprehensive Eccentrics
10:48 The Moderate Schizotypal Level
11:57 Insipid Schizotypal
18:17 Timorous Schizotypal
21:26 The Severe Schizophrenic Level
22:56 Immobile Schizophrenic
26:08 Disorganized Schizophrenic
29:05 Summary & Conclusion
In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive into the origins, diagnostic criteria, and oddities associated with schizotypal personality disorder and what it means to be almost psychotic, but not quite. We unpack idiosyncrasies and “cognitive slippage” of schizotypals that include odd speech patterns, suspiciousness, emotional expression, and social anxiety. This episode also highlights the importance of cultural context in diagnosis and not overpathologizing trends or religious norms. We also explore the overlap with and risk of schizophrenia in schizotypals, along with long-term implications of living in a quasi-psychotic cognitive space.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro & History of Schizotypal Personality
01:15 DSM Criteria Schizotypal Personality
02:59 Ideas of Reference
05:35 Odd Beliefs and Magical Thinking
08:18 Exploring Cultural Oddities vs Psychosis
11:05 Unusual Perceptual Experiences
12:44 Odd Thinking & Speech
17:45 Suspiciousness and Paranoia
18:34 Emotional Expression, Behavior, and Appearance
20:13 Lack of Close Relationships and Anxiety
23:42 Schizotypal Differential Diagnosis
24:46 Schizotypals’ Relationship to Schizophrenia
29:33 Summary and Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) explore the origins and nuances of schizotypal personality disorder, its genetic links to schizophrenia, and the clinical observations that define it. We discuss the evolution of the term 'schizotypal' in the DSM, the implications of schizotypy, and how environmental factors and social learning influence its development. We also uncover observable traits of schizotypal individuals, their social interactions, and self-concept, providing a comprehensive overview of this intriguing personality disorder that is not quite psychotic, but close.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro & History of Schizotypal Personality
01:34 Genetic Research on Schizotypal
05:17 Clinical Research on Schizotypal
08:47 Schizotypal in the DSM
09:29 Schizotypy and Borderline Personality Organization
12:17 Schizotypy Defined
14:32 Schizotaxia Defined
17:39 Schizotypic Endophenotypes Explained
19:57 When Schizotypy Manifests
21:28 Observable Traits of Schizotypal Personality Disorder
30:44 Summary and Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) compare and contrast schizoid and schizotypal personality disorders, as well as schizophrenia. We define key terms, explore the overlap and differences among these disorders, and introduce the concept of schizotypy as a genetic predisposition towards schizophrenia. We further discuss the concept of schizotaxia, or “cognitive slippage” and the impact of birth trauma on schizo development. We also share our opinions about where schizoid fits on this continuum and if they are schizotypes or not.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction & Defining Terms
01:14 Schizoid Personality Defined
01:49 Schizotypal Personality Defined
06:30 Schizophrenia Defined
09:05 Overlap of Schizoid, Schizotypal, & Schizophrenia
12:48 Differences Among Schizoid, Schizotypal, & Schizophrenia
14:34 Meehl’s Model of Schizotypy & Genetics
16:29 Schizotypy Defined
20:00 Premature Birth & Low Birth Weight in Schizo Disorders
22:39 Schizoids’ Unique Relationship to Schizotypy
28:34 Summary & Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) compare and contrast avoidant and schizoid personalities. While schizoid and avoidant personality disorders have overlapping traits but distinct characteristics, personality psychologists have argued about it for decades. In this episode, we explore the definitions of each disorder and ongoing debates surrounding if these disorders are the same thing or not. We end by sharing our thoughts about whether schizoid personality and avoidant personality are the same or different, while giving a critical opinion about the DSM’s limiting definitions of both.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro & Schizoid and Avoidant Definitions
02:29 Historical Context of Avoidant Personality Disorder
04:31 Kretschmer's Theory & Anesthesia vs Hyperasthesia
08:17 The Argument for Splitting or Merging Disorders
10:51 Overlapping Symptoms of Avoidant and Schizoid
11:49 Differences in Schizoid and Avoidant Personalities
20:19 Our Opinions and Discussion
35:21 Summary & Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) take a critical look at the subtypes of schizoid personality, critiquing existing definitions and theories, particularly the 6 subtypes of Dr. Theodore Millon. We explore his mild, moderate, and severe subtypes: the Reserved Apathetic, Introspectively Apathetic, Remotely Asocial, Languidly Asocial, Depersonalized Schizoid, and Affectless Schizoid. We propose our own 5 subtypes and invite our schizoid listeners and viewers to share which type they identify with the most!
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction & Schizoid Personality Recap
02:21 Historical Subtypes - Brief Review
03:09 Akhtar’s Covert & Overt Schizoid
05:08 Understanding Millon’s Personality Theory
07:51 Millon’s Mild Subtype: The Reserved Apathetic
10:32 Millon’s Mild Subtype: The Introspectively Apathetic
12:15 Millon’s Moderate Subtype: The Remotely Asocial
14:34 Millon’s Moderate Subtype: The Languidly Asocial
16:52 Millon’s Severe Subtype: The Depersonalized Schizoid
19:16 Millon’s Severe Subtype: The Affectless Schizoid
22:04 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Master Masker
25:19 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Quietly Antisocial
27:38 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Depressive Schizoid
30:08 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Slothy Schizoid
32:03 Doc Bok & Fish Subtype: The Scattered Professor
34:25 Conclusion and Listener Engagement
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) answer your most-asked questions about schizoid personality. We address misconceptions about schizoid and settle its pronunciation debate (is it skii-zoid or skitz-oid?). We also explore the significant role (or not) of maternal relationships in schizoid’s development. Relatedly, we take a critical look at emotional expression, where we discuss the impact of gender expectations, and the nuanced understanding of fear of intrusion. We further explore power dynamics at play in schizoid behavior, their expression of anger, and how this personality navigates our highly social world.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality
00:50 Pronunciation of Schizoid
04:19 How The Hosts Know About Schizoid
09:54 The Role of Masking in Schizoid Personalities
13:16 Gender Differences in Schizoid Expression
14:46 Does Mom Really Matter?
16:52 Alternative Pathways to Schizoid Development
24:04 Power Dynamics, Fear, & Control in Schizoid Behavior
30:00 Anger & Emotional Expression in Schizoids
34:02 Schizoid & The Big 5 Personality (OCEAN)
35:18 Schizoids & Raisins
37:05 Conclusion & Final Thoughts
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the differences and similarities between schizoid personality disorder and autism spectrum disorder, and whether you can be diagnosed with both. We start by discussing the limitations of current research before investigating the underlying causes of social withdrawal seen in both conditions. We conclude by emphasizing that while they may share observable traits, their origins and implications are fundamentally different.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Schizoid & Autism
00:58 Problems with ASD & SzPD research
04:42 Autistic Thinking Defined
05:26 Autistic Fantasy Defined
05:54 Autism Name Origins
06:25 Autistic Contiguous Position Defined
08:22 Similarities b/w Autism & Schizoid
10:54 Genetics & Etiological Differences
11:40 Schizophrenia’s Genetics
12:37 Autism Genetics
14:50 Can Schizoid and Autism Co-Occur?
17:58 Development of ASD vs SzPD
18:46 Imagination in Schizoid vs ASD
19:08 Late Diagnosing of ASD + Cultural Trends
21:24 Viewer Question: Phantasy of the Schizoid
25:18 Mirror Neurons in ASD vs SzPD
28:05 Our Thoughts About Dual ASD & SzPD Diagnoses
36:05 Summary & Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) use a fresh psychodynamic perspective to look at the misunderstood, quiet, awkward, and socially backwards schizoid. We explore the misunderstandings and stigmas surrounding schizoids, their emotional depth, and the historical perspectives that have shaped our understanding of this personality type. Our conversation highlights the internal struggles of schizoids, their coping mechanisms, and the rich inner lives they lead, often hidden from the outside world. We also take a look at the superpower of the schizoid and how they spot others’ disingenuousness. We emphasize the unique internal experiences of schizoids and the need for a compassionate approach in relationships and in clinical practice.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality
01:42 What do Schizoids Look Like?
03:30 Stigmatization of Schizoids
05:05 Historical Names & Schizoids’ Discovery
06:18 Kahlbaum’s Heboid Personality
06:47 Hoch’s Shut In Personality
07:05 Kraeplin’s Mildly Defective Personality
07:26 Bleuler’s Schizoidie Personality
08:07 Jung’s Introverted Personality
09:12 Menninger & Schizoid’s False Shell / Exterior
09:52 Winnicott & Schizoid's False Self
10:35 Guntrip on Depression & Anhedonia in Schizoids
12:26 Schizoids as Therapists
13:40 Akhtar’s Overt & Covert Personality Features
15:08 Nancy McWilliams’ Psychodynamic Schizoid
15:43 Attachment’s Influence on Schizoid
16:25 Schizoid’s Core Fears
18:32 Schizoid and Histrionic Connection
19:40 Schizoid’s Defense Mechanisms
23:03 Sense of Self & Castle Metaphor
24:08 Schizoid vs Obsessive Compulsive Personalities
24:38 The Colorful Inner World of Schizoids
27:40 Schizoids’ Superpower
30:30 Summary and Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive into one of the most misunderstood personalities: the quiet, awkward, and socially backwards schizoid. We take a critical look at the DSM’s definition of this personality; the developmental pathways leading to schizoid traits; and the unique and complex inner world of schizoids. Using a turtle metaphor, we explore how schizoids resort to fantasy and withdraw inside their shell, escaping from the overwhelming social world. We also explore how schizoid types are often mislabeled as having autism and briefly discuss their differences. We conclude by discussing reasons for the schizoid’s withdrawal, highlighting that our global misunderstanding of this type drives them further away from relationships and from psychological help.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Schizoid Personality
03:45 Attachment Trauma in Schizoids
05:50 Schizoids are Like Turtles
07:18 Problems with the DSM-5 Schizoid
08:41 Psychodynamic Schizoid: A Conflict-Based Approach
10:33 Schizoid vs Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)
15:57 DSM Criteria for Schizoid Personality Disorder
19:41 The Challenges of Goal Setting
20:48 Decreased Sexual Desire
22:04 Sherlock Holmes: The Quintessential Schizoid
23:20 Anhedonia vs Depression in Schizoids
25:02 Difficulty Forming / Indifference to Relationships
30:33 Emotional Coldness and Detachment
33:53 Anger & Joy in Schizoids
37:36 Not Psychosis or Autism
38:36 Summary & Closing
In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, I (licensed clinical psychologist, Doc Bok) take a different approach and lean into the clinical practice part of this podcast. I spill the tea on significant changes in the healthcare landscape, particularly focusing on the rise of telehealth and the influence of venture capital-backed mega telehealth companies. I highlight the conflicts of interest with wealthy investors, ethical and privacy concerns, and market consolidation that threaten the integrity of mental health care and private practice as we know it. This episode emphasizes the importance of patient and clinician awareness, and I provide actionable steps to navigate the evolving healthcare environment.
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Chapters
00:00 Healthcare Changes Post Pandemic
03:24 What is a Venture Capital Company?
04:13 How Venture Capital Telehealth is Different From Private Practice
05:29 Meet the Telehealth Companies’ Investors
08:02 Conflicts of Interest for Investors
09:52 Privacy Concerns
12:19 Ethical Concerns
14:28 Market Consolidation
19:02 Vertical Integration
20:09 Therapists’ Stories & Lawsuits
23:12 What Can Patients Do?
24:08 What Can Clinicians Do?
In this episode of The Personality Couch, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) dive deep into the dark end of the paranoid personality spectrum, focusing on three notorious cases of mass murder: Jeffrey Weise (school shooter), Richard Farley (jilted lover), and Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City bomber). We explore the psychological underpinnings of each of these severe paranoid personalities, the impact of childhood trauma, and how their psyches came unglued. We firstly look at the case of Weise, a 16-year-old school shooter who experienced significant childhood trauma and rejection at the hands of his family. We then turn to look at Farley, an incredibly dangerous example of how erotomania, or extreme unrequited love, can turn into your worst nightmare. Lastly, we take a close look at the infamous Timothy McVeigh, a domestic terrorist obsessed with fantasy, fiction, and comics about revenge. Separating from the Army, but desperate to be a hero, he found an enemy in the very US Government that he used to defend. Our discussion emphasizes that while not all paranoid personalities are violent (most aren’t), paranoid personalities in forensic settings can quickly unravel, making them among the most likely to commit mass murder.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Paranoid Personalities and Violence
02:07 Childhood Trauma’s Impact
05:00 Case Study: Jeffrey Weise - The Traumatized Killer
05:37 Weise’s background
07:52 The Day of the Shooting
10:18 Motivations
11:11 Analysis & Discussion
14:00 Case Study: Richard Farley - The Rejected Lover
14:50 Farley’s obsession with Laura Black
17:45 The Day of the Shooting
21:50 Farley’s Motivations
23:30 Analysis & Discussion
24:46 Masochistic Infatuation Defined
25:18 Erotomania Explained
27:22 Case Study: Timothy McVeigh: The Oklahoma City Bomber
27:44 Background
33:07 Leading up to the Bombing
36:48 Motivations
38:30 Analysis & Discussion
40:19 Summary & Conclusions
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack how paranoia, paranoid personalities, and psychotic disorders overlap. We explore the line between personality disorders and psychosis; misuse of the term schizophrenia; and introduce the concept of paraphrenia as it relates to psychosis in the paranoid personality. We also explore the historical context of paranoia, the nuances between paranoia and delusions, and how the terms became so intertwined in history. We end with our own unfiltered thoughts about limitations to DSM diagnostic categories and how paranoia became so confusing!
Are you a clinician stuck on a case? To schedule a consultation, please visit the practice website, which will guide you to the email address to use. https://www.questpsych.org/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Paranoia and Psychosis
02:14 Defining Paranoia
03:15 Sociocultural Paranoia: The Salem Witch Trials
04:22 How Paranoia Leads to Psychosis: A Train Metaphor
06:51 Defining Delusions
08:21 Persecutory Delusions
08:55 Delusions of Grandeur
09:32 Jealous Delusions
10:01 Erotomanic Delusions
12:01 When Paranoia Becomes a Diagnosis
13:14 Paranoia in Personality Disorders
14:34 Wait- Paranoid Schizophrenia is NOT a Diagnosis?!
16:03 Defining Paraphrenia
16:43 Defining Schizophrenia
17:54 How is Paranoid Personality Disorder Different from Schizophrenia?
22:50 The Difference Between Schizophrenia and Paraphrenia
23:11 Confusion in Definitions and DSM Limitations
27:24 Closing
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) continue our discussion about paranoid personality disorder, exploring its three severity levels: Mild, Borderline, and Paraphrenic. We unpack the six subtypes of paranoid personalities as outlined by Dr. Theodore Millon: The Self-Righteous Mistrustful, The Obdurate Mistrustful, the Querulous Paranoid, the Insular Paranoid, the severe Fanatic Paraphrenic, and Malignant Paraphrenic. We highlight the fragility of Paranoids at all levels of severity, noting they can easily deteriorate with stressors and setbacks. We emphasize the importance of understanding these very common personality dynamics in all settings, especially with increasing paranoia in the post-pandemic world.
Are you a clinician stuck on a case? To schedule a consultation, please visit the practice website, which will guide you to the email address to use. www.questpsych.org
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Paranoid Personality Disorder
03:44 Paranoid Personality Disorder Symptoms
06:03 Historical Examples
06:09 Timothy McVeigh - Oklahoma City Bombings
06:36 Richard Farley - Erotomania
07:52 Explaining the 3 Severity Levels
09:30 Mild Paranoid Personalities: Mistrustful Types
10:16 Self-Righteous Subtype
14:28 Obdurate Subtype
17:14 Moderate Paranoid Personalities: Disorder Level
17:44 Querulous Subtype
21:32 Insular Subtype
23:52 Severe Paranoid Personalities: Paraphrenic Level
25:44 Fanatic Subtype
30:57 Malignant Subtype
36:12 Summary & Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) help differentiate between paranoid and borderline personality disorders. We explore the similarities and differences between these two disorders, discussing their core characteristics, emotional responses, symptoms, and how our own intuition helps us more than we realize. We specifically look at the instability unique to these two personality disorders and how both express anger, shame, and fear. As both disorders can have fleeting episodes of psychosis, we also discuss how delusions can show up in each, but how their triggers are vastly different. We further discuss our own personal experiences treating both disorders and ways we use our intuition to guide diagnosis. We end by highlighting the need for empathy in treatment and welcome other providers to reference this information or to contact us directly if in need of a consultation.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro to Paranoid vs Borderline Personality Disorders
01:59 What is an Unstable Personality Structure?
03:34 Borderline Personality Symptoms Explained
06:50 Paranoid Personality Symptoms Explained
08:30 Comparing and Contrasting BPD and Paranoid PD
08:32 Anger
11:40 Shame
13:03 Fear
14:15 Paranoia & Psychotic Episodes
15:54 Fluidity vs. Rigidity
17:21 Using Intuition with Paranoid and Borderline Personalities
17:35 Dramatic Narratives
19:44 Dependent and Avoidant Attachment Dynamics
23:35 Countertransference
25:20 How they Present to Treatment
26:31 Suicidality & Trauma
28:47 Summary, Learning, and Conclusion
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) reveal the complex, dangerous, and often misdiagnosed Paranoid Personality Disorder (PPD). We discuss the rising prevalence of PPD in the post-pandemic world, the clinical challenges in identifying and treating these individuals, and the critical differences between Paranoid Personalities and narcissism. We believe you’re seeing more of these types in your circles as well, and we want you to be equipped with knowledge so you can best protect yourself! Thus, we unpack not only the DSM-5-TR characteristics of Paranoid Personality Disorder, but we also reveal our clinical experience with these types. We include common themes such as: lack of trust, severe gastrointestinal issues, sadomasochism, medical self-sabotage, shedding identities, and the paranoid character’s unique relationship with aggression towards the same-sex. We reveal why we think this type is popping up even more in our circles, what the pandemic had to do with it, and how you can identify these types to keep yourself safe!
Chapters
00:00 Intro & Dangers of the Paranoid Personality
04:10 Clinical Observations & Post-Pandemic Trends
08:20 Defining Paranoid Personality Disorder
16:35 Warning Signs of PPD Beyond the DSM
27:00 Comparing Paranoid Personality and Narcissism
29:25 Why the Post-Pandemic Narcissist?
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unveil the darkest aspects of personality, focusing on narcissism at its most severe forms. We explore the spectrum of personality types that range from mildly unpleasant to dangerously malignant, discussing examples and case studies that illustrate their risk in relationships. We specifically unpack narcissistic and paranoid personality disorders, malignant narcissism, antisocial personality disorder, psychopathy and sociopathy, and sadistic personalities. While further exploring the characteristics, overlaps, and distinctions among these disorders, we end with a discussion about terrorism and extreme manifestations of sadism.
Chapters
01:02 Stone’s Spectrum of Darkness
01:23 Level 1: Negative Traits
04:35 Level 2: Narcissistic & Paranoid Personality Disorders
07:23 Paranoid Personality Disorder
10:48 Level 3: Malignant Narcissism
13:47 Level 4: Antisocial Personality Disorder
15:08 Antisocial vs Narcissistic Personality Disorder
17:24 Antisocial Personality vs Psychopath
18:38 Level 5: Psychopathy
21:27 Level 6: Sadistic Personalities
28:54 Summary & Closing
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the dangerous dynamics of malignant narcissism in political leadership. We first explore how these leaders rise to power, the psychological factors that enable their ascent, and the societal conditions that make populations susceptible to their charm. We introduce the narcoticizing and honeymoon phases of their reign where the malignant charmer woos their adoring audience. We then explore the characteristics that define malignant narcissist leaders, including how they navigate crises, the corruptibility of their conscience, and their devolution into psychotic thought processes. Further expounding on the dangers of their paranoia and their need for enemies, we share how no one escapes unscathed from these types in leadership. Our discussion concludes with reflections about the aftermath of the malignant narcissist’s reign, and the recovery and healing process from the trauma they inflict.
Chapters
00:00 Intro to Malignant Narcissism in Leadership
02:56 Factors Enabling their Rise to Power
06:51 The Appeal of the Authoritarian Leader
08:46 The Narcoticizing Phase
11:13 The Honeymoon Phase
13:56 Characteristics of Malignant Narcissist Leaders
17:24 Decision Making and Crises
20:30 Corruptible Conscience
21:08 Paranoia and Psychosis in Power
24:20 The Need for Enemies
27:04 Life Cycle and End of their Reign
33:21 Rising from the Ashes of Narcissism
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) delve into the complex and dark characteristics of malignant narcissism, exploring its origins, characteristics, and using examples from popular culture, particularly the film 'American Psycho'. Citing Eric Fromm’s original work on defining evil, we discuss his triad of: necrophilious orientation, incestuous symbiosis, and malignant narcissism. Using connections to historical figures and Alfred Hitchcock's ‘Psycho,’ we briefly explore what this triad looks like. After drawing on research across the decades to define characteristics of malignant narcissism, we further discuss the spectrum of antisocial behavior, aggression, sadism, and paranoia prominent in these types. While discussing how malignant narcissists operate in personal relationships and positions of power, we end by exploring the overlap of malignant narcissism and psychopathy.
Chapters
00:41 History of Malignant Narcissism's Path to Evil
01:16 Fromm's Triad of Evil Overview
03:35 Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho Example
06:23 Early Research on Malignant Narcissism
09:24 The 4 Characteristics of Malignant Narcissism
09:43 Symptom 1: Narcissistic Core
12:36 Symptom 2: Antisocial Behavior
14:27 Malignant Narcissism vs Antisocial Personality Disorder
16:25 Symptom 3: Sadism or Aggression
21:58 Malignant Narcissism in Relationships
23:01 Symptom 4: Paranoia and Verge of Psychosis
25:02 Malignant Narcissism vs. Psychopathy
26:41 Where We Find Them and Why We Follow Them
In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the tricky topic of communal narcissism, exploring its characteristics, behaviors, and the environments in which these individuals thrive. We discuss the distinction between agentic and communal traits, the illusion of selflessness, and how communal narcissists often deceive themselves and others. We further highlight the presence of communal narcissism in charities, social media, and religious organizations. By examining the darker aspects of this personality type, we discuss insights about collective narcissism and the potential for harmful group dynamics. The episode concludes with insights on recognizing communal narcissism in relationships and its correlation with wealth and power.
Chapters
00:00 Intro & History of Communal Narcissism
03:40 What is Communal Narcissism?
05:39 Where Communal Narcissists Show Up
09:22 Social Media in Communal Narcissism
12:15 Communal Narcissism in Religious Settings
13:36 Cults and Collective Narcissism
18:31 Communal Narcissism in Politics
19:42 Recognizing the Signs of Communal Narcissism
23:17 Communal Narcissism in Relationships
26:37 Summary and Key Takeaways



