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<p>Every Tuesday and Friday, tech journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.</p>

Mark Zuckerberg on the AI bubble and Meta's new display glasses | ACCESS

Pivot is off for the holiday! Kara and Scott will return on Friday, but in the meantime, we're bringing you the premiere episode of ACCESS. Tech insiders Alex Heath and Ellis Hamburger talk all things Mark Zuckerberg, from the newest Meta Ray-Ban Display glasses to the beverage selections in the new Meta AI Lab. Alex then sits down with Zuck himself ahead of the 2025 Meta Connect conference. Find ACCESS on YouTube or your favorite podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-14
01:21:58

Cheaper Teslas, OpenAI’s Cash Burn, and Apple’s CEO Succession Plans

Kara and Scott discuss Tesla’s rollout of cheaper models, OpenAI's $1 trillion computing power deals, and why gold prices have topped $4,000 for the first time. Then, who will be Apple’s next CEO when Tim Cook steps down? Also, major banks want to get their hands on the IPO of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and and Kara reveals her criminal past. We're going on tour! Get tickets at pivottour.com Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-10
01:14:44

OpenAI Backtracks, Elon's Netflix Boycott, and Instagram Safety Features

Kara and Scott discuss Trump's escalating immigration crackdowns in Chicago and Portland, and Apple and Google's decision to pull ICE-tracking apps. Then, OpenAI does an about-face on its copyright opt-out policy, and says it will give creators more control in Sora. Plus, Elon leads a Netflix boycott, and a new report says Instagram's safety features for kids are "woefully ineffective." We're going on tour! Get your tickets at pivottour.com Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email Pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-07
01:14:40

Government Shutdown, OpenAI’s Sora 2, and Hegseth's Lecture

Kara and Scott discuss the ramifications of the government shutdown, Electronic Arts going private, and OpenAI taking on TikTok. Then, how does real Scott feel about AI Scott? Plus, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth declares the military free from woke-ness, and YouTube settles with Trump. We're going on tour! Get your tickets at pivottour.com Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-03
01:13:24

Saudi Comedy Festival Controversy, Threads' Major Milestone, and Trump's Movie Tariff

Kara and Scott discuss comedians participating in Saudi Arabia's comedy festival, Threads surpassing X in daily active users, and Nexstar and Sinclair caving on Kimmel. Then, Trump says he's imposing a tariff on foreign-made movies, but who are the real winners and losers? Plus, former FBI Director James Comey gets indicted, though Trump insists it's about justice, not revenge. We're going on tour! Get your tickets at pivottour.com Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠.Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email Pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-30
01:15:31

Kimmel & ABC, Nvidia’s OpenAI Investment, and Tylenol’s Trump Problem

Kara and Scott discuss the aftermath of Jimmy Kimmel's highly-rated return, Nvidia’s $100 billion investment in OpenAI, and what Tylenol's parent company should do about the attacks from the Trump administration. Plus, YouTube will reinstate accounts banned for posting misinformation, and a Charlie Kirk poster at Office Depot reignites a fight over whether businesses can refuse service. We’re nominated for a Signal Award! Vote for us here! Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-26
54:46

Jimmy Kimmel Returns, Charlie Kirk’s Memorial, and Trump’s H1-B Visa Shake-Up

Kara and Scott discuss Charlie Kirk’s memorial service, Jimmy Kimmel’s return, and the Trump administration sending big tech into panic over H1-B visas. Plus, Trump takes to Truth Social to tell AG Pam Bondi to prosecute his enemies, and more details about the supposed TikTok deal. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-23
01:09:04

ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel, Pam Bondi’s Free Speech Mess, and Trump Sues The New York Times

Kara and Scott discuss ABC pulling “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” for a joke about the Charlie Kirk shooting, Trump filing a defamation suit against the New York Times, and Pam Bondi attempting to clean up her “hate speech” mess. Plus, FBI Director Kash Patel’s heated testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, Nvidia's $5 billion investment in Intel, and President Trump's fourth extension of the TikTok ban deadline. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠. Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-19
01:07:57

Kirk Suspect Motives, TikTok "Framework" Deal, and Tucker Carlson Plays Detective

Kara and Scott unpack the rage and division following Charlie Kirk’s assassination — and who’s fueling it. Then, the Trump administration touts a “framework” for a TikTok deal. Plus, Paramount makes a play for Warner Bros., OpenAI reshapes its partnership with Microsoft, and Tucker Carlson pushes conspiracy theories. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠.Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-16
01:11:51

Charlie Kirk Assassination Aftermath

Kara and Scott break down the reactions to Charlie Kirk’s assassination in Utah. Then, mass protests in Nepal, Larry Ellison becomes the richest person in the world as Oracle stock soars, and Apple rolls out new iPhones. Plus, Jeffrey Epstein’s birthday book, and Kamala Harris says Biden’s run was fueled by “recklessness.” Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-12
01:18:03

Dept. of War Rebrand, Trump's Tech Bro Dinner, and Elon's Pay Package

Kara and Scott discuss Trump rebranding the Department of Defense as the Department of War, and his "grotesque" dinner with Big Tech leaders. Then, how Tesla's new pay package could make Elon a trillionaire. Plus, RFK Jr.'s continued chaos, and Anthropic's $1.5 billion copyright settlement. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠.Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-09
01:11:55

Trump’s Alive, China Flaunts BFFs, and Scott’s Back!

Brace yourselves, Scott has returned! He and Kara discuss the rumors about President Trump’s health, China's push to form a new world order, and the latest plans for National Guard deployment. Plus, Google's antitrust win, and Newsmax files a lawsuit against Fox. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠. Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-05
01:19:08

How Paul Krugman Would Fix The Economy: Solutions with Henry Blodget

What would an actually good tariff policy look like? Can the U.S. ever bring back manufacturing jobs, and should it? How bad is the deficit and what can we do to address it?  In the first episode of Solutions, Henry asks Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman about the most pressing problems facing the U.S. economy — and how he would fix them. Listen to more from Solutions with Henry Blodget here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

09-02
01:24:35

Trump Comes for the Fed, The Redistricting Wars, and Guest Co-Host Gov. Gavin Newsom

WOW! “GOVERNOR" GAVIN NEWSOM IS HERE TO CO-HOST PIVOT, WHICH MANY ARE CALLING THE BEST PODCAST OF ALL TIME! Kara and Governor Newsom discuss the latest on the redistricting fight, Trump announcing he’s removing Fed Governor Lisa Cook, and OpenAI's latest legal trouble. Also, Newsom is releasing…a memecoin? Plus, Kara asks the governor all the important questions: Will he accept a debate challenge from Ron DeSantis and Sean Hannity? What does he think of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement? Could he beat Scott in a bench pressing contest? Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08-29
01:04:13

Ghislaine's DOJ Interview, Cracker Barrel's Logo Change, and Guest Co-Host Tim Miller

It's the final week of Scott-Free August, and Kara is joined by Tim Miller, host of The Bulwark Podcast. Kara and Tim talk about  Trump's threats to deploy National Guard troops to Chicago, New York, and Baltimore. Then, is the government's Intel deal MAGA socialism?  Also on the rundown: the DOJ's interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, Cracker Barrel's new logo, and Trump's cankles. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠.Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08-26
01:14:25

The “Woke” Smithsonian, South Park’s Latest Dig at Trump, and Co-Host Wesley Morris

Scott-Free August continues as Kara is joined by host of The New York Times' Cannonball podcast, Wesley Morris. Kara and Wesley discuss President Trump’s beef with the “woke” Smithsonian, The White House’s new TikTok account, and South Park’s latest Trump Administration burn. Then, Taylor Swift hits the podcast world. Listen to Cannonball here, or watch on YouTube here. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠. Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08-22
01:16:46

Zelensky's White House Return, Newsom Trolls Trump, and Guest Co-Host Abby Phillip

As Scott-Free August sails on, Kara is joined by CNN's Abby Phillip. Kara and Abby discuss Zelensky returning to the White House alongside European leaders, and whether a peace agreement will be hammered out. Then, Gov. Gavin Newsom has turned trolling Trump into an art form, but will that actually help Democrats? Plus, GOP governors send National Guard troops to D.C., the Trump administration floats a new ranking system for companies, and Costco says no to selling abortion pills. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠.Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠.Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠.Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08-19
01:08:03

Trump & Putin’s Alaska Date, Gay Marriage Challenged, and Guest Co-Host Rachel Maddow

Scott-Free August continues with none other than MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow! Kara and Rachel talk about the origins of “America First,” Trump’s ongoing D.C. takeover, and The White House’s review of Smithsonian museum exhibitions. Plus, President Trump and Vladimir Putin meet in Alaska, and SCOTUS is asked to overturn marriage equality. Then, what are The Ladies of the Right beefing about? Rachel’s podcast, “Ultra” won a 2025 Edward R. Murrow Award! Listen to it here. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08-15
01:17:30

Trump's D.C. Crackdown, Putin Summit, and Cuomo's Mamdani Jabs

As Scott-Free August rolls on, Kara is joined by guest co-host David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker, and host of The New Yorker Radio Hour. Kara and David discuss Trump's federal takeover of the D.C. police, and look ahead to the "feel-out" meeting with Putin in Alaska this week. Plus, redistricting fights spread across the country, Cuomo pulls some punches on Mamdani (with limited success), and Zuck's Palo Alto compound faces scrutiny. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠ Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08-12
01:11:12

AI Therapy, “Mankeeping,” and Screen Addiction

Scott-Free August continues with #1 New York Times bestselling author and award-winning podcast host, Mel Robbins! Kara and Mel talk about why “The Let Them Theory” took off, the pros and cons of using AI for therapy, why people should stop blaming their phones, and the deeper issues behind "mankeeping." Listen to The Mel Robbins Podcast here. Watch this episode on the ⁠⁠Pivot YouTube channel⁠⁠. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcastofficial⁠⁠. Follow us on Bluesky at ⁠⁠@pivotpod.bsky.social⁠⁠. Follow us on TikTok at ⁠⁠@pivotpodcast⁠⁠. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at ⁠⁠nymag.com/pivot⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

08-08
38:37

A Ruszkiewicz

to call Charlie Kirk "productive and courageous" is like calling Hitler a man who knew how to get stuff done.

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Jesse B

as a big fan of pivot and still processing, I do just want to say that this episode was agonizing to listen to. it was niche and at times borderline pretentious but most of all irrelevant to anyone other than the two people talking.

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08-10 Reply

Diana Gibbs

icant believe how overbearing this guest is. She constantly talks over Kara and asserts her POV as unmitigated truth. Ironic, considering her approach focuses on listening. Sorry Kara - let her :)

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Colleen Jones

Something is wrong with the file is the message I get when trying to play it.

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