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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

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Nick Robinson talks to people who shape our political thinking about what shaped theirs.

Each episode of Political Thinking features an in-depth conversation with someone who is shaping our politics. The people who run our country (and those who want to), campaigners, business and union leaders, and people who run other countries. All of them join Nick in the studio, not for a news-y interrogation, but for an extended and relaxed conversation, delving into their past and how it shaped their worldview.

New episodes drop on Fridays on BBC Sounds. You can also watch them on BBC Two at 12:30pm on Fridays or on BBC iPlayer. And you can listen on BBC Radio 4 on Saturdays at 17:30.

If you enjoy Political Thinking, then we think you’ll also like another podcast from Today. It’s called Radical with Amol Rajan and you can listen here on BBC Sounds: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r

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The Friedrich Merz One

The Friedrich Merz One

2025-07-1834:39

The German Chancellor speaks candidly about Trump's attitude to Europe, war on the continent, and the future relationship BritainProducer: Daniel Kraemer Researcher: Chloe Desave Editor: Giles Edwards
The Josh Babarinde One

The Josh Babarinde One

2025-07-1133:47

The Lib Dem Justice Spokesperson managed to persuade ministers to change domestic abuse law within a year of being elected to parliament. Josh Babarinde tells Nick how his own childhood experience spurred him on to push for reform. He also explains how a beer mat persuaded him to join the Liberal Democrats.Producer: Daniel Kraemer
After some of the most tumultuous days of his premiership, Keir Starmer sits down with Nick in Downing Street, to reflect on a year in power. In a wide-ranging interview, the prime minister defends his style of leadership, while taking responsibility for the setbacks.He also opens up about losing his brother last year and his personal relationship with President TrumpProducers: Daniel Kraemer, Leela Padmanabhan and Chloe Desave
A Republican Congressman outlines the values that lie behind his conservative politics.Scott Perry is the Representative for Pennsylvania's 10th District, a Trump ally, an Iran hawk who sits on the Foreign Affairs Committee, and a veteran, who flew combat missions in Iraq before turning his attention to politics.He joins Nick down the line from Washington DC, in the aftermath of his President's decision to drop bombs on Iran. Perry tells the story of how he went from growing up in a household with no electricity or running water, to being elected to the "most important deliberative body on the planet".
The Trade Minister explains how a penalty shootout played a role in his government appointment.Douglas Alexander has the same job that he had 20 years ago in Tony Blair's government. He reflects on how the world has changed in that time, and his motivation for returning to politics after a humiliating defeat in 2015.
The Mel Stride One

The Mel Stride One

2025-06-1337:41

The Shadow Chancellor sets out his vision for a more "thoughtful" politics and faces up to the challenge of winning the argument before the next general election.Sir Mel Stride reveals what he admires about his opposite number, Rachel Reeves, and why a world war two commander is one of his political heroes.He also has a warning about what the British economy would look like under Nigel Farage. Producer: Daniel Kraemer
The Jacinda Ardern One

The Jacinda Ardern One

2025-06-0333:32

How does it feel to be held up as the 'anti-Trump' by progressives across the globe?Jacinda Ardern was prime minister of New Zealand for 6 years and is now committed to promoting empathy and kindness in world leadership. She joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to reflect on her unexpected rise to power and being described as a 'global pinup for progressive values'.She also opens up about how growing up in a Mormon family prepared her for politics and reveals what she told Donald Trump in the aftermath of the murder of 51 people in a mosque in New Zealand in 2019.Producer: Daniel Kraemer
After 15 years as a member of the House of Lords, Tanni Grey-Thompson reflects on how a career at the top of sport prepared her for the world of politics.The crossbench peer speaks to Nick about what she sees as a dangerous relationship between benefit reforms and legalising assisted dying.Producer: Daniel Kraemer
The Eluned Morgan One

The Eluned Morgan One

2025-05-2345:55

The First Minister of Wales sets a marker to the left of Keir Starmer, setting out her vision of a "Red Welsh Way", drawing inspiration from Gavin and Stacey.Producer: Daniel Kraemer
The Richard Tice One

The Richard Tice One

2025-05-1638:501

Reform UK’s deputy leader reflects on a year of political success, a privileged upbringing and the cabinet job he’s eyeing upProducer: Daniel Kraemer
The Joe Biden One

The Joe Biden One

2025-05-0729:411

To mark the 80th anniversary of VE Day, former president Joe Biden sits down with Nick Robinson for an exclusive interview, his first since leaving the White House.He issues a stark warning about the future of the western alliance and criticises his successor’s approach to foreign policy.In this extended interview, Biden also reflects on his decision to drop out of the 2024 election and the state of democracy in the US.Producers: Kirsty MacKenzie, Daniel Kraemer and Daniel Macadam Editor: Giles Edwards
In the second, bonus instalment of this exclusive interview with the former prime minister, Rishi Sunak opens up about his time as Chancellor and Prime Minister, including how his relationship with Boris Johnson fell apart, why he regrets his "Stop the Boats" slogan and what comes next for someone who has become an elder statesman, aged 44.Producers: Daniel Kraemer and Joel Massey
An exclsuive in-depth interview with the Rishi Sunak. In this first instalment, the former prime minister tells stories from behind the scenes on the world stage explains why he thinks we must now cut welfare spending to fund defence.Sunak reflects on how a sense of duty - inspired by his Hindu faith - helped drive his political career, and reflects on how and why he ultimately led the Conservative Party to the worst electoral defeat in its history.Producers: Daniel Kraemer and Joel Massey
The co-leader of the Green Party of England and Wales joins Nick for a conversation
The Transport Secretary on Corbyn, Ukraine and growing up in SwindonProducer: Lauren Tavriger
The Charlie Taylor One

The Charlie Taylor One

2025-02-1440:20

The Chief Inspector of Prisons for England and Wales on how he went from being a teacher at a school for kids with beahvioural problems, to being the leading voice on prison conditions. He tells stories of cheap suits, perspex windows, being the subject of offensive graffiti, and explains how he retains optimism.Producers: Lauren Tavriger and Daniel Kraemer
The Zia Yusuf One

The Zia Yusuf One

2025-02-0749:051

Who is the 38-year-old, Muslim, second-generation immigrant chairman of Reform UK?Zia Yusuf joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to tell his story, lay out his party's path to power, and share his thoughts on Boris Johnson, Elon Musk, Suella Braverman and his boss, Nigel Farage.Producer: Daniel Kraemer
The Chris Philp One

The Chris Philp One

2025-01-3141:50

The Shadow Home Secretary joins Nick in the Political Thinking studio to reflect on mistakes of the last government, humility in opposition and his anger at the new government.Chris Philp also opens up about the impact of caring for his premature baby twins and what he has learned from success and failure in business. Producer: Daniel Kraemer
The Kim Leadbeater One

The Kim Leadbeater One

2025-01-2442:321

The Labour MP sits down with Nick to reflect on how she went from selling beds in her Yorkshire hometown, to being at the forefront of political debate, as the face of the campaign to legalise assisted dying, and how the murder of her sister, Jo Cox, helps explain the journey.Producer: Daniel Kraemer
The Chancellor reflects on her first six months in power and what lies behind her determination that she has "what it takes" to "turn things around".Producer: Daniel Kraemer
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Lindy McGuinness

Wonderful!

Jul 7th
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Stephen McCauley

oxbridge or nothing... dads friend in the city had a job lined up for me.... the entitlement he prides himself on says alot about industry hes in.

Oct 2nd
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Joe Traill

this made me miss David Liddington

Sep 26th
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John Kupiec

Many thanks, JohnK

Jun 22nd
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Samuel Baeza

For goodness sake. We are in the middle of a labour party election and you still persist with interviewing tory politicians. What's the matter with you? Oh yes, you are a tory too

Jan 30th
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JPT

I'm sorry Nick, I love the podcast but I can't listen to Ms Piddock. And she's from my neck of the woods!!

Oct 31st
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InverDarr

I fundamentally disagree with most things Ken Clarke says but, like George Galloway, he is eloquent,funny and always worth listening to.

Sep 30th
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Samuel Baeza

come on Nick, forget that you were a member of the Tory party and interview some non Tory politicians

Jun 15th
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InverDarr

Great interview of a man with true Scots courtesy and formidable intellect with the steel to back it up. He made the correct decision about Boris, pilloried or not.

Jun 4th
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David Barry

Steve Baker is a scary megalomaniac

Apr 16th
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Will Toton

Gave up listening to this, unfortunately it appears to have become another BBC vehicle for bashing Brexit

Mar 5th
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Clifton Walters

the best leader and prime minister we never had. great stuff

Jan 25th
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Mark

The best political podcast, hands down. Insightful, human, and sometimes very funny. I didn't realise I liked Nick Robinson until I listened to this!

Jan 7th
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Guy Lansing

m. v

Dec 13th
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Eric Froude

Very insightful. We all have a tallent! Thank you

Nov 19th
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Samuel Baeza

Good God man, he's not the messiah

Oct 25th
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Peter Smith

Enjoyable and. Informative

Jun 4th
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John Prunty

As a white middle aged man I have found the last three guests a challenging listen! On occasion I found myself acknowledging some of the points made but in equal measure I could see my believes at the opposite end of the spectrum. If nothing else they are informative and challenging!

May 28th
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Oliver Neilson

Sublime informal political interviews with a tie off, sleeves rolled up style from the best political interviewer of a generation.

Feb 25th
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Alan Ackroyd

Thoughtful and thought provoking. Keep it coming!

Jan 12th
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