Politically Re-Active with W. Kamau Bell & Hari Kondabolu

We're sharing an episode from our friends over at Talk Easy. Kamau sits down with host Sam Fragoso to discuss his four-part docuseries We Need to Talk About Cosby. They talk about Kamau's reluctance to talk about Bill Cosby, whose legacy became something he decided to publicly grapple with. You'll hear about Kamau's approach to the series, the integral women who helped create it, and a formative United Shades of America moment that transformed the way he encounters and tells painful stories. Plus, how the project permanently altered Kamau’s course. You can listen to more episodes of Talk Easy at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/politicallyreactivetalkeasy See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hari and Kamau face up to their mistakes before it's too late. And we all learn so much.Rosa Clemente calls bullshit on Puerto Rican statehood—and gives a crash course on the Puerto Rican people’s historic struggle for self-determination.Yasmin Benoit unpacks the basics of asexuality and shares asexual perspectives on libido, attraction, romance, and kids.And Oren Nimni talks Cargill v. Doe and Nestle v. Doe—the Supreme Court cases about cocoa, corporate America, and child slavery we should have asked Neal Katyal about.Plus: The disturbing revelation that Hari is in fact a "strawberry man".Find our guests:Rosa Clemente (@rosaclemente) https://rosaclemente.netYasmin Benoit (@theyasminbenoit) Oren Nimni (@orennimni) https://www.currentaffairs.org/author/oren-nimniMentioned on the show:War Against All Puerto Ricans https://waragainstallpuertoricans.comNaomi Klein: The Battle for Paradise https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1235-the-battle-for-paradiseCorredor Afro https://corredorafro.org/inicio/The Asexual Visibility and Education Network https://asexuality.orgJust Security: Nestle/Cargill v. Doe https://www.justsecurity.org/tag/nestle-cargill-v-doe-symposium/ Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

LaLa B Holston-Zannell invites Hari and Kamau to let go of the shame and have a real conversation about sex work, white supremacy, and why decriminalization is a matter of life and death for trans Black women.Then Ilana Glazer talks about mobilizing young voters during a pandemic, the pros and cons of baby modeling, and how to make a horror movie about fertility treatments. And yeah, "Yas queen."Find our guests:LaLa B Holston-Zannell (@LaLaZannell) https://www.aclu.org/news/by/lala-b-holston-zannell/Ilana Glazer (@ilazer) ACLU: It's Time to Decriminalize Sex Work https://www.aclu.org/sexworkVeneno https://www.hbomax.com/venenoPOSE https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/poseGenerator Collective https://www.generatorcollective.comIndivisible https://indivisible.orgBessemer Amazon Union https://bamazonunion.org Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Three powerful, absolutely-nothing-like-one-another conversations on this week's jam-packed mega-episode:The ACLU's Chase Strangio blows open the absurdity and cruelty of state legislation targeting trans youth who want to play sports—and agrees with Hari about Rodney Dangerfield's relevance to the conversation.Dr. Connie Wun lifts up the humanity of the victims of the spa killings near Atlanta and connects their murders to America's long history of racist and colonial violence against Asians and Asian-Americans. And she makes the case that cops won't end hate crimes—but organized communities can.Then Derek DelGaudio, creator of In & Of Itself and author of AMORALMAN, communes with Kamau about magic, identity, performance, and only-childness.Find our guests:Chase Strangio (@chasestrangio) https://www.aclu.org/news/by/chase-strangio/Dr. Connie Wun (@conniewunphd) https://www.conniewunphd.comDerek DelGaudio (@derek_del) Trans-led orgs recommended by Chase:Transformation Project (South Dakota) https://www.transformationprojectsd.org Transgender Education Network of Texas https://www.transtexas.orgGrassroots orgs highlighted by Connie:AAPI Women Lead https://www.imreadymovement.orgAdvancing Justice https://www.advancingjustice-aajc.orgCAAAV https://caaav.orgDRUM: Desis Rising Up and Moving https://www.drumnyc.orgRed Canary Song https://www.redcanarysong.netVietLead https://www.vietlead.orgVietRISE https://vietrise.org18 Million Rising https://18millionrising.orgAlso mentioned in the show:Disclosure http://www.disclosurethemovie.com/about Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Desmond Meade, who led the campaign to restore voting rights to the formerly incarcerated in Florida, returns to talk about Gov. Ron DeSantis's decision to deny him a pardon and renewed threats to democratic participation in his state. But in spite of it all, Desmond's excitement about people exercising the franchise is infectious.Then, Emmy-winning journalist Soledad O'Brien is ready to Disrupt & Dismantle structural racism in her new BET series—and to call out cable news for its role in spreading disinformation.Plus: Hari admits that for him "new music" means Baby Beluga, and Kamau reveals The Goal of Life.Find our guests:Desmond Meade (@desmondmeade) https://floridarrc.com/desmond-meade/Soledad O'Brien (@soledadobrien) https://soledadobrienproductions.comMentioned in the show:Silk Sonic, "Leave the Door Open" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adLGHcj_fmAFlorida Rights Restoration Coalition https://floridarrc.comACLU of Florida https://www.aclufl.orgDisrupt & Dismantle https://www.bet.com/shows/disrupt-and-dismantle.htmlComedian and Filmmaker Hari Kondabolu on Comedy, Culture and Maintaining Your Integrity https://www.culturedmag.com/comedian-and-filmmaker-hari-kondabolu-on-comedy-culture-and-maintaining-your-integrity/Brontez Purnell Explores Intimacy and Longing in New Book 100 Boyfriends https://www.culturedmag.com/brontez-purnell-100-boyfriends/ Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Do Black people have an attitude problem about the COVID-19 vaccine? Dr. Rhea Boyd says absolutely not—the problem is lack of access to the vaccine and to real information. So she's launched BetweenUsAboutUs, a national campaign with Black doctors, scientists, and health care professionals (and a certain podcast host), to give Black communities the resources they need to make informed choices and get vaccinated.Then Kamau and Hari have the conversation that every politically engaged basketball fan dreams of with Marc J. Spears, Senior NBA writer for The Undefeated. Hear the full story of how the league shut down after the police killing of Jacob Blake, the underappreciated impact NBA players had on the 2020 election, and what it will take for Becky Hammon to get a real shot as the league's first female head coach. Marc also attempts to convert our resident Knicks fan to the Nets. It doesn't work.Plus: Hari's anticolonialist recap of Oprah's takedown of the British royal family.Find our guests:Dr. Rhea Boyd (@RheaBoydMD) https://rheaboyd.comMarc J. Spears (@MarcJSpears) https://theundefeated.comMentioned in the show:BetweenUsAboutUs https://www.betweenusaboutus.orgNYT Opinion: Black People Need Better Vaccine Access, Not Better Vaccine Attitudes https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/opinion/us-covid-black-people.html Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Amber Ruffin's career is really taking off (FYI, The Amber Ruffin Show is now on NBC), and she and her sister Lacey Lamar are as close as ever, trading stories about the crazy everyday racist behavior Lacey encounters in their hometown of Omaha, Nebraska. Their book You Won't Believe What Happened to Lacey is necessary reading for anyone who doesn't understand how enough microagressions and you'll want to flip a table. Hari and Kamau also talk to top litigator and former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal about facing the Supreme Court, Merrick Garland vs. the insurrectionists, and how the right uses affirmative action to divide Asian Americans from Black and Latino Americans. Plus: Arjun unbound!Find our guests:Neal Katyal @neal_katyal https://www.nealkatyal.comAmber Ruffin @ambermruffin https://youllneverbelievelacey.comMentioned in the show:Billie Joe Armstrong on Brontez Purnell’s ‘White Boy Music’: ‘Blast This On a Big-Ass Speaker' https://bit.ly/3sKHFZAHow to win an argument (at the US Supreme Court, or anywhere) | Neal Katyal https://bit.ly/30b8MRu Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Can we talk about Palestine? Dr. Marc Lamont Hill (who, admittedly, calls himself "a prisoner of hope") says we can, and that Americans are ready to even if our government isn't. He joins Hari and Kamau for a conversation that encompasses Michael Che, Bill Clinton, the Fourth Geneva Convention, and the Columbia House record club. Then Kamau's Mom, Janet Cheatham Bell, talks about structural racism in healthcare and her distrust of the pharmaceutical industry—and why none of that stopped her from getting the COVID-19 vaccine. Plus: a surprisingly-detailed analysis of the NBA MVP race.Find our guests: Dr. Marc Lamont Hill (@marclamonthill) https://www.marclamonthill.comJanet Cheatham Bell (@CheathamBell) https://www.janetcheathambell.com Mentioned in the show:Marc Lamont Hill + Mitchell Plitnick Except for Palestine https://thenewpress.com/books/except-for-palestinePlaygrounds for Palestine https://playgroundsforpalestine.orgUncle Bobbie's Coffee & Books https://www.unclebobbies.com Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Historian, journalist and hero-of-Hari Vijay Prashad analyzes the Farmers' Protest in India and makes a powerful case for why their struggle is our struggle. And while he's at it, he salutes Rihanna, defines Marxism, and makes quick work of Dinesh D'Souza. Comic duo The Lucas Brothers give the backstory for the new film Judas and the Black Messiah and their 15-year journey to making a movie about Black Panther leader Fred Hampton. Plus: How Kenny and Keith's stoner nihilism withered in the face of Fred Hampton's love for the people. Find our guests:Vijay Prashad (@vijayprashad) https://www.thetricontinental.orgThe Lucas Bros (@lucasbros) https://thelucasbros.comResources mentioned in the show:We Stand With Farmers https://farmersprotest.carrd.coJudas and the Black Messiah Podcast https://www.radiotopia.fm/podcasts/judas-and-the-black-messiah-podcastEyes on the Prize II: Interview with William O'Neal: https://vimeo.com/512709094 Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What does cancel culture have to do with defunding the police? How do we liberate our attention? Can better orgasms improve public policy? Hari and Kamau get answers—and Valentine's Day advice—from pleasure activist and abolitionist adrienne maree brown, author of We Will Not Cancel Us. Plus: Adam Jentleson lays out the Jim Crow roots of the filibuster and gives a Senate insider's view on why even Joe Manchin might be convinced to abandon it. His new book is Kill Switch: The Rise of the Modern Senate and the Crippling of American Democracy.Find our guests:Adam Jentleson (@AJentleson) adrienne maree brown (@adriennemaree) http://adriennemareebrown.netResources mentioned in the show:We Stand With Farmers https://farmersprotest.carrd.coMovement for Black Lives https://m4bl.orgThe Frontline: #postcardstobiden https://demand.thefrontline.orgGeneration Five http://www.generationfive.org Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hari and Kamau debate the morality of Super Bowl-watching before being joined by legendary poet Nikki Giovanni. She's out with a new collection called Make Me Rain, and ready to talk about everyone from Kwame Alexander to Tupac, James Baldwin to Colin Kaepernick. Hear why Nikki Giovanni is inspired by the women who launched Black Lives Matter—and the prospect of traveling to Mars.Find our guest:Nikki Giovanni https://nikki-giovanni.com Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Porsha Williams, star of The Real Housewives of Atlanta and granddaughter of civil rights legend Rev. Hosea Williams, talks about why she put her body on the line to demand justice for Breonna Taylor. ACLU Racial Justice Program Director ReNika Moore breaks down the immediate and long-term agenda for racial equity after Trump. And Kamau tries to explain Garth Brooks to Hari.Find our guests:ReNika Moore (@ReNikaMoore) https://www.aclu.org/news/by/renika-moore/Porsha Williams (@Porsha4Real) https://www.porshawilliams.com Mentioned on the show:ACLU Petition: Divest from the police. Invest in Black and Brown communities. https://bit.ly/36iwZIGACLU Action: Tell Congress we Need Reparations for Slavery now. https://bit.ly/3abdsLrUntil Freedom https://untilfreedom.comBreonna Taylor's mom Tamika Palmer (@TamikaPalmer) Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hari and Kamau explore the pressing questions: What would Martin Luther King Jr. have been like on Twitter? Can live-streaming a federal crime boost your real estate business? And how many ways can Donald Trump end up in jail? They're joined by CNN analyst and former FBI special agent Asha Rangappa. Plus: Listeners bid a fond farewell to our 45th President. Find our guests: Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) https://asharangappa.com Mentioned in the show: Justice for Oscar Grant https://www.justiceforoscargrant.com Find us:Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive)Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive)Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network.Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hari and Kamau can't help noticing that Blue Lives Matter, except when they try to defend the Capitol. Cat Brooks of the Anti Police-Terror Project and Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff of the Center for Policing Equity unpack what it means to "defund the police" — and why it's so damn hard. Plus, the ACLU's Kate Ruane is concerned about Twitter's Trump ban, even though she thinks he deserves much worse. Find our guests: Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff (@DrPhilGoff) https://www.policingequity.org Cat Brooks (@catscommentary) https://www.antipoliceterrorproject.org Kate Ruane https://www.aclu.org Find us: Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/ W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/ Find the show: Twitter (@PoliticReActive) Facebook (@politicallyreactive) Instagram (@politicallyreactive) Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network. Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Just when Kamau and Hari thought they could breathe and take in the Democratic victories in Georgia's Senate runoff, an armed right-wing mob storms the Capitol. Hear their reaction to the chaos in DC and their conversation with Nse Ufot of the New Georgia Project and The Intercept's Ryan Grim about how Democrats can make the most of their power (and not fuck it up this time). Find our guests: Nse Ufot (@NseUfot) https://newgeorgiaproject.org Ryan Grim (@RyanGrim) https://theintercept.com/podcasts/deconstructed/ Find us: Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/ W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/ Find the show: Twitter (@PoliticReActive) Facebook (@politicallyreactive) Instagram (@politicallyreactive) Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network. Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The multitalented Daveed Diggs joins Hari and Kamau to talk about translating Blindspotting for TV, James McBride's liberating take on Frederick Douglass, and rich people loopholes in the time of COVID. Plus: Advanced-level Oakland shit, from Dope Era to Children's Fairyland. Find our guest: Daveed Diggs (@DaveedDiggs) And mentioned in the episode: Deconstructed: Inside Biden's Meeting With Civil Rights Leaders https://theintercept.com/2020/12/10/biden-audio-meeting-civil-rights-leaders/Daveed Diggs asks: What to my people is the Fourth of July? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuCeUyItpzEDaveed Diggs: Puppy for Hanukkah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MkeIo2bUE Find us: Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/ W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/ Find the show:Twitter (@PoliticReActive) Facebook (@politicallyreactive)Instagram (@politicallyreactive) Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network. Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hari and Kamau are ejected from their post-election malaise by LaTosha Brown, the unstoppable co-founder of Black Voters Matter. She's on fire to build electoral power in Black communities and has her sights set on Democrats winning both seats in the Georgia Senate runoff. She's also got a message for progressives: If you want to win, time to root out structural racism. Plus: Hari confronts the inconvenient truth about John Kerry. Find our guest: LaTosha Brown (@MsLaToshaBrown) https://blackvotersmatterfund.org Find us: Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/ W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/ Find the show: Twitter (@PoliticReActive) Facebook (@politicallyreactive) Instagram (@politicallyreactive) Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network. Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ijeoma Oluo breaks down the costs of catering to underwhelming white guys in her new book Mediocre: The Dangerous Legacy of White Male America – and describes what it’s like to be a target for harassment from people who’ve never read a word she’s written. Sarah Silverman can’t wait for there to be a vaccine so she can get back to stand-up, but in the meantime she checks in about scumbag artists, relearning comedy for her new podcast, and the “Mostly Not Racist” t-shirt Kamau gave her. Plus: Hari puts himself through the Cyber Monday absolution matrix. Find our guests: Ijeoma Oluo (@IjeomaOluo) https://mediocrethebook.com Sarah Silverman (@SarahKSilverman) https://art19.com/shows/the-sarah-silverman-podcast Find us: Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/ W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/ Find the show: Twitter (@PoliticReActive) Facebook (@politicallyreactive) Instagram (@politicallyreactive) Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network. Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Comedian Sarah Cooper shares the secrets she's learned lip-syncing to our most toxic president and making her Netflix special Everything's Fine. Then, Dr. Peter Hotez talks about surviving the COVID-19 spike, fighting anti-science propaganda, developing a dollar-a-dose coronavirus vaccine — and why Kamau should settle his beef with Surgeon General Jerome Adams. Find our guests: Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr) https://sarahcpr.com Dr. Peter Hotez (@peterhotez) https://peterhotez.org Find us: Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/ W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/ Find the show: Twitter (@PoliticReActive) Facebook (@politicallyreactive) Instagram (@politicallyreactive) Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network. Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jesse Wegman dives into the extortionate history of the Electoral College. Indivisible's Meagan Hatcher-Mays outlines the prospects for the pro-democracy agenda without the blue wave. And Hari and Kamau kick back with Dope Queen Phoebe Robinson to talk publishing, Black Frasier, and texting with Michelle Obama. Find our guests: Jesse Wegman (@jessewegman) https://jessewegman.com Phoebe Robinson (@dopequeenpheebs) https://www.phoeberobinson.com Meagan Hatcher-Mays (@importantmeagan) https://indivisible.org Find us: Hari Kondabolu (@harikondabolu) http://www.harikondabolu.com/ W. Kamau Bell (@wkamaubell) http://www.wkamaubell.com/ Find the show: Twitter (@PoliticReActive) Facebook (@politicallyreactive) Instagram (@politicallyreactive) Produced by Topic Studios. Part of the WarnerMedia Podcast Network. Full credits. www.PoliticallyReActive.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices