Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak

Sign up for the brand new mailing list here. This is an episode about faith, diaspora, and what ants are for. Jacqueline is mommy, and the world is your womb. Revelations in a time of rupture: everything “stimulates collagen”. Kate can’t stop smelling the beeswax candles from her cousin, and Jacqueline is searching for a song to mark the end. Holding up the roof as it caves in and taking ownership. Oh, to lie on the bed in the mid-morning and read! The feminine knows when something needs to die, and two tickets require two hands. An outgoing call from a formal dining room, a resonant Dirty Dancing reference that doesn’t land. Who will feed the trick or treaters? Same bitch, same bot. Once a year is Crazy Week (Fuck Week). Like Job, but not nearly as punished. See you on the mailing list. Mentioned: Saie, AromaTech, Lyma, Youthforia, Marion Woodman, CosRx, OneSkinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Going full placebo and confronting the parable’s obvious idiot. There is no safe chalice, with literacy and hydration at an all-time low. Softer clay. Why we must sleep, and dreams of cat arms wrapped around. What is the cost of donating one’s life to Instagram? Jacqueline would never brag about reading an article. Every day Kate’s hands don’t touch soil is a waste. In the garden of the mind, a bunch of people with wisdom walk around in shame. Youth: dance to the ripe sound of pan flute! Build toward horizons, instead of peaks. Where’s the altar? Spreading fear and being ripped apart by a chimp…all for a tiara. Felicity Porter's haircut, revisited. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

$25 for a new life, and the need to be nudged. Should we not be driving from dead centre? Tradwife sippy cup fertility mug. The fear of looking like a pile of lymph leads Jacqueline to thrilling appointments with specialists, and then on a designer men’s shoe chase. An IV drip and a B12 shot in the ass—ring me up! Dreams of a backyard sauna…but will Kate draw the line at cold plunge? Blue eyeshadow for dancing, Black Honey from mother. The poison is the dose, and a decision with a countdown is Jacqueline’s worst nightmare. Energetic exchange when they come for you. Suit by Amazon, shoes by OfferUp, and a life devoted to returns. What you really need is the drum pad and two sticks. Mentioned: Yerba Mate, Backcountry, Joanna Czech, Kosha Spa, Environ, Ricari studios, Pause, Renew Sauna, Plunge Magic,  Credo Beauty,  ILIA, Celsius, Ferragamo, The RowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Clicking on pictures of motorcycles and haunted highways. Has the definition of extroversion changed? Cancelling and taking stock of the 365 days. Kate is healing through errands due to a meme from 6 years ago. Race for the cure? A bold move for someone who’s diminished emotionally. The retirement of a crutch via spiritual awakening… no pun intended. Sad fountain in the woods! Good Spirits, Courage Bagels, The Noon Day Demon, IKEA, Tide, Shark Ninja, LMNT, Superieur, Dr. BSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A masseuse in Kate’s home reminds her of the necessity of addressing the angels and eating pears. New blocks are located, while Jacqueline scrambles pancakes. What else does one put in a dishwasher? Phone call avoidance and the myths of protein. The hours you’re asleep still count, but where does it start? A math lesson leaves Kate feeling seen. Mentioned: Dr. Dennis Gross; PlantStrong; Ilia; SURI Electronic Toothbrush; Blueland; Duckbill; Perfect Amino; CelsiusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Open bins and thick nails. Is she gonna be screaming all night? Jacqueline’s true thoughts on Improv Everywhere, and the shadow of a blogger. 2 days or 2 years? Elegante. Kate recalls hearing a white rap in total darkness, and Jacqueline is not afraid of information. Perhaps you didn’t have to bare that burden! Teller vs Machine and the tyranny of the skinny margarita. Have you no curiosity as a doctor? Tim Gunn it! Mentioned: Lyma, Dr. Dennis Gross, Nira, Shark Ninja, Ilia, Planta, Crossroads, Skincare (2024), Jar, Rose Delights Begging: Proclaim flosser, Sonicare electric toothbrush, Blueland, PureLift (last time), Bloomeffects sunscreen serumSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you feel off? Jacqueline’s not convinced by the 'truth of dermis.' It was a bad joke, but sweetness was located as the issue. Flapjacks for the table: Lychee, Passion, Espresso. Kate could spot marbleization anywhere, especially in nature. A true hiccup cannot be controlled. Breakfast burrito in the purse, mashed potatoes for dinner. No regrets… is that the white light? Get on the mailing list: thisispoog.com  Brands: Rose Delights, Skinceuticals, Gabbriette MAC lip palette, Nobu Malibu, Jar, Superieur Electrolytes Begging: LMNT   Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A gift for getting through this. LA is for drinking out of jars and getting filler quietly in the night. Kate’s not in Tuscany—she’s not even at a bar. Cry wolfina…blueberries and small curds are the answer. Broth Birthday! Do people share the features of their parents, or just the way they hold their faces? The summer blockbuster is back and the floor remains hideous. Recipe hacks and addressing the cravings of Husbands. Wanna see Kate do a backflip? Jacqueline is analyzing in the privacy of her own mind, and peripheral vision cannot be ignored. Brands: Creamy, Saie, Shark Ninja, Anjolie Organics, Beauty of Joseon   Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aligned with a doctor, and finding that the truth is apparent. Son baggage and punishment for the fertile. Griffin Dunne? Frank conversations about identity with medical staff… this is a privilege. Pee before you leave, don’t squeeze the neck. What kind of flower? The mother’s have a knot in their stomach, and the not-mother’s have a knot in their stomach. No one is immune. Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Gesture, Jester... we all know the mirror’s flipped, right? The drink of the summer is in Kate’s loser tradwife sippy cup. Jacqueline reflects on the response to ‘plant points’. Has Kate been under-SPF-ing? Huge week for porridge and meal prep. These doctors need to know who they’re dealing with! Restating the Poog Promise, Kate recounts a heartbreaking moment at the pizza bar to 'Jacly'. To have been friends in college... imagine letting other people talk. Two knuckles to the sternum, swinging at the vegan restaurant. Every time people think things don’t fit, Jacqueline finds a way. Two Ferrari brains with Chevy brakes. A stomach on the table and sun in the retinas. 4 minutes...my purse hurts!  Mentioned: Superieur, Gerolsteiner Sparkling Water, Beauty of Joseon, Kosas, Supergoop, Dieux, Fatty15, Crossroads restaurant, Burger She Wrote, Planta, The Comeback, @Einsteins_NYC, Dr. Bulsiewicz (Plant Points), White Oleander (2002), What Lies Beneath (2000), Organizing Solutions for People with ADHD by Susan Pinsky.Edited & mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Whatever happened to Born This Way? Beyond notes, and placing the tiara on the coma patient. Orthopaedic shoes on each hand and a retainer stabilizing the ankle. Should you walk the room or stand dead center? A plan to heal Kate’s microbiome…add up the plant points and see who wins! You don’t have to hit someone just because Big Volkswagen told you to. Calling all patent experts and technical drawers, Jacqueline is inventing. Questions about the moon, sun and earth inspire diagrams. It’s all relative and it’s all moving. Is a dried flower rotting in water? Linguistic challenges and typing full sentences into Google. Kate’s colonicist shares book recommendations. Normal person, normal life... and then, something happened. Trapped in a tab somewhere. Paranormal for paranormal’s sake. Dreams of flying above the city and sipping hibiscus under a mosquito net. Why are the ants screaming for the hose? Mentioned: Flo Dose, NIRA Precision Laser, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz (@theguthealthmd), Journey of Souls by Michael Newton, and Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian L. Weiss. Begging For: PureLift Pro, an instant pot, a technical drawer/patent expert Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A strange state drives Kate to watch the birds and the bees. Rest your coffee inside the ring. Using the language of Others, passing the window and not looking in, and grazing the fly. Regret, reflection and a promise to stop disobeying. The issue with anecdotal and getting sloppy with the journal. Are these all projections? Slow Cooker, Instant Cooker, Pressure Cooker… and The Whole Kitchen by Jacqueline Novak. Do you know nothing of barley? Post the bowls. Be wicken.  Brands: WHOOP, Pendulum, NIRA Anti-Aging Precision Laser, FlowdoseBegging For...WHOOP  Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Reading The Sabbath and watching The Frisco Kid. Why scroll when you could build cathedrals in time? The orange tree gives two negronis and a troubling preference for bad movies is questioned. When blood becomes digital and gardens are raised. Why talk about the form at all? Sweating in the sheets…the WHOOP is consulted. There are robots that are friends, and then there are robots that are therapists. Thank God, Art. It was never about replication—it was always about being asked to stand in front of the color blue. Which containers are suitable for souls? Jacqueline as Politician and Kate as Public Relations. Creator, Realtor, Builder. On Poog, we’re always coming from a God-first place, and sometimes also scratching the neck while talking. To be introduced to jargon… No need to reply now. Brands mentioned: Marion Park, WHOOP, NIRA Anti-Aging Precision Laser, Eight Sleep, SharkNinjaBegging for: Misfits Market, simplehuman, PureLift Pro (please)   Edited & mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The inevitability of developing cortisol face and the lawlessness of Zoom support groups. With talk of a rancher’s husband, Kate requires a Buddhism IV drip directly to the arm. With the instinct to avoid everything...a new whole-foods, plant-based lifestyle is embraced. If you’re dying, you’re alive. How to prepare hibiscus tea and acknowledge varying pronunciation. Jacqueline contemplates comedy on canvas and the impact of the Artist’s Posture. Dr. Greger's Daily Dozen is thoroughly reviewed. Having to both boil and cool the potatoes will drive Kate to shatter every glass in the house. When the student is ready, the teacher reappears. Poog is a rumor mill and this is not The Daily. Emergency egg bites and a seat next to a coughing stranger. Kate is confronted with a mysterious object in her hotel room…Jacqueline investigates. Brands: Our Place, Hurom Juicer, Rip Esselstyn's PLANTSTRONG Edited & mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Beauty and wellness tips from two hogs. Sorry, which hole? Rest assured this is Vaudeville, there was no mirror. You wanna go to Kate’s Cafe? A 'W' so flowery it evokes music. Elizabeth & Sarah & Tracy & Me. The shoes are wet, but these feet don’t sweat. If there’s a Jacqueline link, the hags need to come through. She was pumped! Awe and concern at seeing both anus and V. There’s something kind of desert-pleasing about it. Eight. Plate. Settings. You think I'd have a Seder and not invite you? Wonder Oven Closure and Kate reacts to hearing 'Jack and Diane' for the first time. Brands: Tower, FaceGym, Breville Bambino, The Tracy Anderson Method, Capezio, SkinskoolBegging For: Pure Lift, Our Place Slow Cooker & Always Pan Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jacqueline enters in felted mules, stung. A doctor abused Kate by not taking her call. Extreme sport bandaids, flying hydrocolloidals. Acting is real and ADT is a scam. Major. Depressive. Disorder. A pharmacy run-in a la Magnolia while riding the generic wave, Jacqueline keeps going home med-less. Kate struggled with a VIP wristband and some of the most miserable men she's encountered. 'Darling' as a vessel for aggression. Radical acceptance, a joyless park ranger, and a crane.  Biting into a hot strawberry? Three nights of Acquapazza. Welcome to Cook’s Corner. Brands discussed: Electrolytes: LMNT. SUPERIEUR. SIMPLISAFE. LILY's CHOCOLATE. MZ SKIN. Big gifts have landed: WONDER OVEN & HUROM JUICER    Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Finally, a pharmacy with a restaurant! What if Kate was a big-jugged nurse on the night shift, and Jacqueline always ordered directly from the Goop Kitchen app? Dr. Loretta on the doorstep, and it really is much easier to bring those boxes through to the back... What’s wrong with having a little fun with yourself? A tooth un-fills and the comfort of this friendship through it all. Jar, but with someone else. A gentle way to start the day may be returning. There will be enough life jackets on the Poog Cruise. The pot is hot—but the stone? It’s 500 degrees. Put her to work, boys! Jacqueline debuts a new voice and explains how to raise a lap cat and hard seer cabbage. Rep yourself before you die! Earnestly Begging for: Goop Kitchen vouchers, Pure Lift, Brands Mentioned: Dr. Loretta, Tower, Fenty, Charlotte Tilbury, Biologique Recherche Edited & mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The dream of a communist pharmacist and the control needed to not throw your phone against a wall. Often we must play the role. Driving while engaging the abs and the pride of seeing your daughter on screen. You wanna change your life? You’ll have to move every day, sweetie. Laughter that only the price of flowers can provoke & a mood so good you hold doors open too long. Whether stepping onto a stage or into an elevator, the nerves never go away. The relevancy of the headshot is questioned and a new torso is offered. This is literally the President of the United States of America. Where in film is the Aged Man? Rotten seed. Half plastic, half lead...the alien screaming within you. Mixing up algorithmic forces and fondly remembering the men who sold ice cream and smoothies. Hi babies! Staying up all night for your mental health. Hello???? Guys!? Respectfully Begging For: Whoop, Apparis, AwanBrands Mentioned: Rebel Ice Cream, Biodance Bio-Collagen Real Deep Mask   Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Pizza, cherry pie, and the urge to take off running once your table is ready. If Jacqueline enjoyed it yesterday, she wants it again today. Kate is trying as hard as she can. A spider’s glance. Superbills and psychic dreams…do you want to operate at ‘peak’, or do you want to just ‘get by’? Tuesday, overlooked. Jacqueline is leaning on the Lyma, and no outside sources were used whatsoever. The soft serve was disappointing and NYAD RULES. Lip gloss dazzles anew. The way tears change the face. What if this is the beginning of insanity? Brands mentioned: WHOOP, Pat McGrath, Dr. Loretta, FLOYD, Dr. Dennis Gross Genuinely Begging for: Goop Kitchen, Perfect Amino Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sorry, what’s your name? Grinning in a movie theatre bathroom stall, and weeping in the car watching NASA Live. Fascination at the ‘close friends’ of the ultra-famous. Is it Baudrillard or Baudelaire? Applauding celestial bodies and researching kettles. Toothless and tea-less, we need the real moon again. A scratched pan for which no one is to blame and suspicion over a missing spatula. Kate is neglecting the neck and chopping tiny. Texting the Healer’s wife, Jacqueline’s eyebrows are fully f*cking lifted. It’s called stepping into the reality of your life! Sincerely Begging For: Goop Kitchen, Graza Brands Mentioned: Lyma, Great Jones, Caraway Edited and mixed by Allie Graham.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.