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Much of Pre-Nicene Christian history has been altered, erased and in many cases, completely fabricated. But with every episode of Pre-Nicene Perspective we take you closer to the truth through the prism of The Very First Bible of 144 A.D. Hosted by Presbyter Darren Kelama with theological assistance from MarcioniteChurch.org
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Given the recent craze on social media among wild-eyed Evangelicals, Judeo-Christians and even some Catholics replacing the name of Jesus with 'Yeshua,' we decided to find out if there's a basis for their claims.Episode hosted by Presbyter Darren Kelama and produced in association with the Journal of Pre-Nicene Christian Studies (ISSN: 3068-8469).Ἰησοῦς = JesusPronunciation: Approximately "ee-AY-soos" or "yay-SOOS," with the emphasis typically on the second syllable ("SOOS").Koine Greek alphabet:https://greekforall.com/learn-biblical-greek-grammar/biblical-greek-alphabet/Marcionite Church Inscription:Συναγωγή Μαρκιωνιστῶν κώμης Λεβάβων τοῦ κυρίου καὶσωτῆος Ἰησοῦ Χρηστοῦ, προνοίᾳ Παύλου πρεσβυτέρου, τοῦλχ' ἔτους ("Meeting house of the Marcionites of the village of Lebaba of the Lord and Savior Jesus the Good, under the oversight of Paul the elder.")Marcionite inscription episode:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L8TCspXmusOther Christian inscriptions:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MT6xS2bBwThe Very First Bible (free ebook):https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/Presbyter Monnet (French Pontiate):https://www.youtube.com/@EgliseMarcioniteMarcionite Church:https://www.marcionitechurch.org/Journal of Pre-Nicene Christian Studies:https://journal.pre-nicene.org/
Discover what virtually every Pre-Nicene Christian believed about the arrival of Jesus on earth in 90 seconds. And also discover why the Roman Empire tried so desperately to erase it from history."In the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar (29 A.D.), Pontius Pilate being governor of Judea, Jesus descended into Capernaum, a city in Galilee..." - The Gospel of The LordMarcionite Churchhttps://www.marcionitechurch.org/The Very First Bible:https://www.theveryfirstbible.orgJournal of Pre-Nicene Christian Studieshttps://journal.pre-nicene.orgThe Persecution of Diocletian: A Historical Essay: A classic historical analysis by Arthur James Mason focusing on the motivations and events of the persecution.Readings in Ancient History: Illustrative Extracts from the Sources: An edited volume by William Stearns Davis that includes primary accounts of the persecution, such as the search for Christian scriptures.
In today's episode, we take a deep dive into the essence of early Christianity—before it became intertwined with the Roman Empire and cult of Messianic Judaism. We’re stripping away the grandeur, the pageantry, and the complex theology of later traditions to explore a simpler, more intimate form of the faith. This is a time when Christianity was defined not by cathedrals or massive religious institutions, but by small house churches, humble leaders, and a singular gospel.Join us as we discuss the Pre-Nicene Christians, who were not bound by the later, Judaized versions of Christianity but held firm to a faith centered on Paul’s singular gospel, written in 34 A.D., long before the four anonymous gospel accounts we know today. This early Christian movement was focused on the teachings of Jesus, with an emphasis on the concept of God as "Our Father" and a direct connection between Christ's earthly life and his divine nature.We'll also take a closer look at the first Christian Bible, as transcribed by Saint Marcion in 144 A.D.—an early canon free from the Old Testament's Torah scriptures. The Pre-Nicene Christian way of life was one of simplicity, with house churches and presbyters at the forefront. These early believers lived in relative anonymity, using their home gatherings to avoid persecution from the Roman Empire, which sought to stamp out the faith. In fact, we'll explore the fascinating history of the Dura-Europos house church, the oldest Christian house church in the world, and the artifacts that reveal how these early communities worshipped in secrecy.Finally, we'll reflect on the role of the presbyter—how these leaders, unlike today’s priests, were grounded solely in Christian teachings, never distracted by the merging of Judeo-Christian traditions that would come centuries later.This episode takes you back to a time when Christianity was not a state religion but a humble, resilient movement that survived through simplicity and faith. Tune in for a fresh perspective on the early days of Christianity—before it became what we know today.The first Christian Bible of 144 A.D.https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/Presbyter Traininghttps://www.marcionitechurch.org/Presbyter-Training.htmlMass, Baptism, and Prayers of the First Christians (2020)https://payhip.com/b/7ZQqJournal of Pre-Nicene Christian Studies ISSN: 3068-8469https://journal.pre-nicene.org/Marcionite Churchhttps://www.marcionitechurch.org/Pre-Nicene Christian Ecclesiahttps://www.pre-nicene.org/Watch Marcionite Masshttps://www.youtube.com/@EgliseMarcioniteWilliams, R. "House Churches and the Architecture of Early Christianity." Studies in Church History, 10, 2010.Le Bas, Philippe, & Waddington, William Henry. Greek Inscriptions Collected in Asia Minor, Volume 3. 1870.The Very First Bible (2020). Edited and translated by the Marcionite Church. ISBN: 0578641593.Trevett, Christine. The Presbyters: A Study of Early Church Leadership. Cambridge University Press, 1996.Follow us on Twitter: https://x.com/PreNicene_TVand on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@prenicenetv
Judaizers have been trying to blur the line between their religion and Christianity for thousands of years but it wasn't until the 19th century that they found a 'magic word' that would be instrumental in deceiving millions of Christians. In today's episode we look at the history, timeline and etymology of the word 'Judeo-Christian' and how it was used to drag America into WWII and now into more 'forever wars' in the Mideast.To understand how and why Western governments have been hijacked and are teetering on collapse look no farther than this weaponized word and the well-financed marketing efforts behind it.Notes:Joseph Wolffhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_WolffFather Charles Coughlinhttps://www.ssa.gov/history/cough.htmlJudeo-Christianhttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Judeo-ChristianConversoshttps://www.museodelprado.es/en/whats-on/exhibition/the-lost-mirror-jews-and-conversos-in-medieval/ac516c08-08d9-42fb-a7fd-1cba121e9946The first Christian bible of 144 A.D.https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/First-Bible-App.htmlYahweh Derangement Syndrome: Deconstructing The Devil's Greatest Trick
As acceptance of The Very First Bible of 144 A.D. begins to go mainstream, the world of academia is trying to keep pace with the underlying theological implications. Are they getting it right? In this clip from In-Depth With Academia we find a warm but somewhat guarded review of the first Christian canon.Notes & Links:https://www.academia.edu/https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/More episodes on PreNicene Radio:https://www.pre-nicene.org/PreNicene-Radio.html
Through The Lord's Prayer, Jesus not only reveals to us the name of God but also how to ask for His gifts. It's hard to overstate the importance of each and every word in the most significant prayer in Christianity - and yet it has been tampered with many times over the last 2,000 years. In today's episode we take a deep dive into the history of the prayer, explore the edits in detail (including the removal of the words 'Holy Spirit') and reveal the original prayer in its entirety.Notes:Original Lord's Prayerhttps://www.theveryfirstbible.org/lordsprayer.htmlContrasting Pope's statement with scripturehttps://www.marcionitechurch.org/Antithesis.htmlRoman Emperor hunts down every last copy of The Gospel of the Lordhttps://www.bible.ca/b-canon-diocletians-destruction-constantines-production-scripture.htmChurch begins distancing itself from barbaric Yahweh deity by removing its name from liturgyhttps://catholic-resources.org/ChurchDocs/CDWDS-Name-of-God-2008.htmWhy the prayer and bible was originally written in Greekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AkDsOKYcPALearn more about suppressed Pre-Nicene Christian historyhttps://www.pre-nicene.org/
Today we tackle a very complex question from a viewer that gets to the heart of not only the founding of the largest church on earth but also touches on the cognitive dissonance experienced by Judeo-Christians.In this episode we find that the apostle Peter did fulfill a leading role - just not the one that's been advertised.Show notes and mentions:Epistle prologues - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GN9SOdb9wMThe Gospel of The Lord - https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/24 hour rebroadcast of the complete Gospel of The Lord - https://zeno.fm/radio/TheGospelOfTheLord/Latin Vulgate - https://www.biblestudytools.com/vul/Vatican Library prologue links - https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/vatican.htmlFull reading of original Galatians from the first Christian bible - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOSCUejGbbsMarcionite Christian Church and Chancellor A.W. Mitchell - https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
Although much of Pre-Nicene Christian history has been altered, edited and fabricated there are ten key events that remain true and untarnished. In this episode we view them in the form of an animated timeline covering the years 29 A.D - 382 A.D.
Pre-Nicene Christian Ecclesia:
https://pre-nicene.org/
The First New Testament: Marcion’s Scriptural Canon by Jason D. BeDuhn:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274267157_The_First_New_Testament_Marcion's_Scriptural_Canon_by_Jason_D_BeDuhn
Damnatio Memoriae:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfdMRWeiM8c
Marcionite Church
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
The Very First Bible:
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org
Episodes on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@PreNiceneTV
At first it seemed like a simple question with a simple answer - but like with most things concerning Pre-Nicene Christianity there turned out to be much more to the story, including the removal of the word 'virgin' from the gospel of Matthew. Publication of this episode was deliberately delayed until a few days after Christmas to avoid any unnecessary controversy.
Show notes:
Catholic bishops remove word 'virgin' from gospel of Matthew: https://archive.ph/pZ24H
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+7:14&version=KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1:18-25&version=KJV
https://ehrmanblog.org/the-virgin-birth-and-the-gospel-of-john/
The Gospel of The Lord: https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/
Marcionite Church: https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
Presbyter Chat on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@prenicenetv
Twitter: @PreNicene_TV
In 2018, a grave containing a human skeleton was discovered near a construction site on the outskirts of Frankfurt, Germany. Within the 1,800 year-old grave was a clay pot, an incense bowl and upon further examination, a silver amulet was discovered under the jaw of the skeleton. And only now do we know what was written inside the amulet.
Notes:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14196889/silver-amulet-Germany-Christianity.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nida_(Roman_town)
https://www.romeartlover.it/Frankfurt.html
https://www.archaeologisches-museum-frankfurt.de/index.php/de/
The Very First Bible of 144 A.D.
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/
Marcionite Church
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/@prenicenetv
Twitter:
https://x.com/PreNicene_TV
When archeologists Philippe Le Bas and William Henry Waddington discovered the ruins of an ancient Christian church in Syria in the 1800's, not only did it contain the world's oldest carved inscription bearing the name of Jesus Christ - they unearthed an unstained memory that the Roman Empire and Judaizers tried to erase from history.
Show Notes:
  Philippe Le Bas and William Henry Waddington, Greek Inscriptions grecques et latines recueillies en Grèce et en Asie Mineure (1870), volume 3, inscription 2558. Minor reference in Gerhard Kittel, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, under Synagogue. Also referenced in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Marcionites, using Le Bas and Waddington as a reference.
 Modeling the Antiquities Trade in Iraq and Syria (MANTIS) https://isac.uchicago.edu/research/projects/mantis
  Marcionite Christian Church https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
  The Very First Bible https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/
Presbyter Chat 
https://pre-nicene.org/Presbyter-Chat.html
Recorded nearly four years ago at the height of the fake Covid plague, the answer to the question touches on the deadly RNA injections, the monopolized media and the need to decouple from the current fiat regime by using Bitcoin. Did the response stand the test of time? You be the judge.
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When archeologists Philippe Le Bas and William Henry Waddington discovered the ruins of an ancient Christian church in Syria in the 1800's, not only did it contain the world's oldest carved inscription bearing the name of Jesus Christ - they unearthed an unstained memory that the Roman Empire and Judaizers tried to erase from history.
Show Notes:
  Philippe Le Bas and William Henry Waddington, Greek Inscriptions grecques et latines recueillies en Grèce et en Asie Mineure (1870), volume 3, inscription 2558. Minor reference in Gerhard Kittel, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, under Synagogue. Also referenced in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Marcionites, using Le Bas and Waddington as a reference.
 Modeling the Antiquities Trade in Iraq and Syria (MANTIS) https://isac.uchicago.edu/research/projects/mantis
 Marcionite Christian Church https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
 The Very First Bible https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/
Presbyter Chat 
https://pre-nicene.org/Presbyter-Chat.html
Mentioned in episode:
Deuteronomy 25:12 
11If two men are fighting, and the wife of one steps in to rescue her husband from the one striking him, and she reaches out her hand and grabs his genitals, 12you are to cut off her hand. You must show her no pity.
Leviticus 11
"All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you.21There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground.22Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper."
Today's question on Presbyter Chat: Was Pope Francis right when he said every religion is a way to God? Heresy is only half the answer - the other half is wrapped in a mysterious edict issued by the Vatican in 2008. And it may go a long way in explaining why this Pope has broken away from 2,000 years of doctrine and dogma.
Show notes:
https://catholic-resources.org/ChurchDocs/CDWDS-Name-of-God-2008.htm
https://veritas-vincit-international.org/2019/12/12/pope-blesses-pachamama/
https://www.archbalt.org/no-yahweh-in-songs-prayers-at-catholic-masses-vatican-rules/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-pope-francis-diversity-of-religious-identities-is-a-gift-of-god/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_deities
First Christian bible of 144 A.D.:
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org
Marcionite Christian Church:
https://www.marcionitechurch.org
Presbyter Chat on YouTube
Pre-Nicene Channel on Twitter
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Today’s question is about candidates, politics and voting. Does Pre-Nicene Christianity offer any guidance that we can apply to today’s circumstances?
THE EPISTLE OF PAUL TO THE ROMANS Page 89
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/
The emperor’s new senators by Christian Schaller
https://www.blog.der-leiermann.com/en/the-emperors-new-senators/
Tacitus on the Transition from Augustus to Tiberius
https://facultystaff.richmond.edu/~wstevens/history331texts/augtotib.html
Did America Have a Christian Founding?
https://www.heritage.org/political-process/report/did-america-have-christian-founding
Pre-Nicene Christian Ecclesia
https://pre-nicene.org/
Presbyter Chat on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/@prenicenetv
Marcionite Christian Church
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
As Bergoglio dials up the ferocity of his Bolshevik-style purge of ideological opponents with a new excommunication, what's the path forward for Catholics abandoned by an apostate church? Presbyter Chat has the answer.
The Very First Bible
Presbyter Chat on PCTV
LifeSite petition for Archbishop Viganó soars past 10,000 signatures in 48 hours
Four years after banning RNA injections, MarcioniteChurch.org is recommending parents expecting the birth of a child to invoke a religious exemption against the Guthrie test (heel prick test) which involves the use of a lancet to collect blood from the newborn.
Once again we find evil hiding in plain sight and the ramifications are stunning. Show notes below:
https://texaslawreview.org/americas-hidden-national-dna-database/
https://www.biometricupdate.com/201910/department-of-justice-expands-dna-collection-to-include-detained-immigrants
https://winepressnews.com/2022/05/09/world-economic-forum-associate-blackstone-purchases-ancestry-com-the-worlds-largest-dna-database/
https://www.calicolabs.com/news-and-media/
https://hwaairfan.wordpress.com/2015/10/16/google-the-nsa-dhs-are-creating-a-global-dna-database/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1076143/Record-720-000-people-added-Britains-DNA-database--making-worlds-largest.html
https://www.prlog.org/13026681-christian-church-warns-expectant-parents-about-heel-prick-blood-tests.html
The Very First Bible:
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/Religious-Exemptions.html
As the faithful yearn for unedited, authentic scripture and canon, we explore the history and contents of the first Christian bible ever published. Produced in conjunction with the Marcionite Christian Church (MarcioniteChurch.org), this special episode serves as the official content guide and overview of The Very First Bible 144 A.D.
The Very First Bible:
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org
Diocletian persecution:
https://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/hispania/diocletian.html
The First New Testament: Marcion’s Scriptural Canon by Jason D. BeDuhn:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274267157_The_First_New_Testament_Marcion's_Scriptural_Canon_by_Jason_D_BeDuhn
Saint Marcion:
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/saintmarcion.html
The Gospel of The Lord Audio:
https://zeno.fm/radio/TheGospelOfTheLord/
Watch video version of this episode:
https://youtu.be/2ZP_Rl67KHs
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:53 - Renewed interest in Pre-Nicene Christianity
00:02:44 - Theological inconsistencies
00:03:36 - Saint Marcion
00:04:43 - Gospel provenance answered (not Luke)
00:06:21 - Content overview
00:08:26 - Evangelion (The Gospel of The Lord)
00:09:42 - Apostolicon (Epistles of Paul)
00:10:24 - Prologues
00:11:01 - Vatican links to first bible
00:12:23 - Erasure of first bible history
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Today we reconstruct mass just as it would have been celebrated in the 2nd century by the Pre-Nicene Christians and as outlined in the liturgical guide 'Mass, Baptisms and Prayers of the First Christians,' published by the Marcionite Christian Church (MarcioniteChurch.org).
Overview: In many ways, this mass is reflective of the widespread persecution endured by the Pre-Nicene Christians from 33 A.D. - 325 A.D. as more often than not, it would be celebrated underground, in caves or private homes and away from their enemies. At the time, all Christians had but one bible - The Very First Bible of 144 A.D. and it would have accompanied parishioners during mass. It was traditional that Saturday be a day of fasting and mass be celebrated on Sunday beginning at dawn with a Service of the Word. #prenicene #liturgy #apostlepaul #mass #communion 
Pre-Nicene Mass:
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/catacombchurch.html
The Very First Bible:
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org
Liturgical Guide Free Ebook/PDF:
https://payhip.com/b/7ZQq
Pre-Nicene Christian Ecclesia:
https://pre-nicene.org
PCRN Radio:
https://pre-nicene.org/radio.html
Today we deconstruct Romans Chapter 7 and the Apostle Paul's disturbing account of what happened to him as a result of reading the books and laws in the Old Testament/Torah books. The Pre-Nicene Christians took this warning to heart - should you?
KJV
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-7/
The Very First Bible
https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/
Israel/Amalek
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/south-africa-reminds-icj-of-netanyahus-amalek-rhetoric-to-invoke-genocide-against-palestinians/3106313
Old Testament Amalek
https://www.academia.edu/25603765/A_LONG_AND_COLOURED_HISTORY_OF_INTERPRETING_AMALEK
Judeo-Christians Reach A Fork In The Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UPLJ7MWvk
Marcionite Christian Church
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/
Pre-Nicene Christian Ecclesia
https://pre-nicene.org/


























