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In my podcast today I set the stage for this series by giving my observations about the current landscape of Christianity and why there is a new paradigm shift that’s gaining significant energy and excitement as we move into the trans-religious era of history. I’ll also tell you a little about Riane Eisler, an amazing woman who is 91 years young and who has become known internationally for her work in Big History. It traces the history of Dominator Hierarchies and calls for a shift into Partnership Societies and families. Desmond Tutu said this about Riane’s work, “ It’s a template for the world we so urgently need. So why is Riane doing a podcast with Presence? And why are people from Quantum Physics, Psychology, Philosophy and many other fields now working with Presence? Listen to learn more.
Welcome to the launch of our Presence Podcasts! We are so excited to have you join our conversation for a new earth. This series will be hosted by Doug King, president of Presence. Along the way Doug will be joined by his wife, Denee, as a co-host. You can also look forward to interviews with theologians, spiritual leaders, pastors and others. The purpose of Presence podcasting is to stimulate discussion of our planet’s next best steps regarding human spiritual identity. This episode is especially aimed at those not familiar with the history of Presence, its structure, including Board members and the ways each of you can weigh in with your thoughts and ideas. For those of you who have been on this journey with us over the last 4 decades, we look forward to using this media platform as way to communicate with you on a regular basis. So welcome to you all!
We continue our look at cartography, moving from the past to the present. How did the interpretation of Christology by the Holy Roman Empire become a worldwide religion that is defined by division and denomination? In this episode, I’m taking the principles that emerged in the very genesis of the story and showing how they played out in the history of Israel and then became the foundation for Christological interpretation. Further, the interpretation of Christology as a new religion has prevailed for 2 millennia as an assumption. However, there are now numerous questions about the state of Christianity that are troubling. Could it be that the interpretation of Christology is poised to evolve into an integral worldview, leading to a radical shift or even an evolutionary leap? This is what we propose.
In episode 4 of our series on the Cartography of the Christian religion we discuss the root causes that have led to what we see looking at the current map. To do this requires starting at the beginning or genesis of the Narrative. The story begins with Adam and progresses to Jesus who is called the last Adam. That sounds like a seamless story that defines a problem from its very start and then, over centuries of time, evolves into an entire paradigm identified as death. And whatever was the cause of death was removed by actions surrounding the role and function of Jesus the Christological individual and modeled by the Christological collective known as the body. We now discuss questions raised by our interpretation of this evolutionary story. Did Jesus “kind of” defeat death? Was death defeated for a small percentage of the human race? What was the root cause of death to begin with? And why does the story outline 2 possible identities starting with Adam and Abraham and evolve into a first century conflict between those identities that resulted in the coming of a new world paradigm? Why is universal God identity the outcome of the story? It’s all about Christology.
We continue to use the historical model of Spiral Dynamics to illustrate how worldviews and their evolution related to the interpretation of God identity. The first 2 worldviews illustrated by the Spiral model are Archaic and Tribal. These 2 worldviews show up in the Biblical Narrative as Archaic Adam and Tribal Abraham. Both are in the Genesis of the story. These 2 figures set the stage for the evolution of spiritual consciousness with regard to universal God identity. Understanding how Adam and Abraham understood God identity is a necessary first step in the journey. We are proposing that the Biblical Narrative is actually one seamless story that traces the beginnings of spiritual consciousness all the way to our present day map. Spiritual consciousness with regard to God identity did not start with Jesus. To understand how we have a current map of separation, division and denomination in the world religion of Christianity we have to start at the beginning and then see if we can find where the interpretation of the story got off track along the way.
We are using cartography to view the Christian landscape via a map. The map helps define the great diversity of churches and denominations. Our series explains why the result of 2,000 years of evolution led to such division. In this episode we use Spiral Dynamics to trace the history of the situation. The state of Christianity and the church must be understood from the beginning or Genesis of the God Identity story. So I show how everything preceding Jesus and the apostolic writers set the stage for an interpretation of Christology that led to a world religion. From here we will propose a new future for Christology, one that results in world-centric unity.
The concept I’ll be using relating to map making is cartography. The audience for this series is any and everyone interested in having a global conversation for a new earth. All are welcome regardless of denominational affiliation or non-affiliation, Catholic or Protestant and those who are now post Christian or Trans-religious. The series will address the map as it evolved from the past, meaning how the map took shape in the first few centuries and then expanded into a world religion of thousands of denominations and factions. We will then address the map as to how it looks today. And I’ll ask each of you to identify your place on today’s map.
This episode is a summary of the main points related to Christology and the Holomovement. We continue to show how the current problems around Christianity stem from competing interpretations. To illustrate these points I have included a Theology Quiz! I’ve taken the idea from Sesame Street. They have a game entitled, “Which of these things is not like the other?” I will show you 3 diagrams and you have to come up with the correct answer. Who said theology is not fun? #holomovement #biblicalnarrative #theology #christianity #christology #progressivechristianity #universalism #spirituality #sbnr
In this episode we wrap up our in depth look at sin. Sin was a specific condition that was dependent on law. So questions have to be answered. How can sin no longer exist but yet right and wrong do? What is sin beyond right and wrong? Why is the understanding of sin necessary to understanding doing and being? Why do fundamentalist Christians exist? Why do progressive Christians want to distinguish themselves from fundamentalists? What is the next evolution of progressive Christianity?
We continue our discussion about Law and Grace in this episode. Law and grace is a very confusing story when one interprets Christology as a religion. And at the center of any discussion of the Law is the concept of sin. Sin is part of the language of the first covenant/world. Sin has a specific meaning related to the Biblical Narrative. We will discuss how language today in a New Earth has transcended sin language. Yes, there is still right and wrong or obedient/disobedient but I no longer use the word sin in my vocabulary.
We are in the middle of a discussion based on a trans-disciplinary approach to the interpretation of the Biblical Narrative. The series is comparing the Quantum Physics findings about our universe with regard to the Holomovement with the Biblical Narrative. We are proposing that the cosmology of our universe aligns beautifully with Biblical cosmology. Specifically, we’re comparing the Holomovement of our universe with Christology. Neither result in a religion but rather point to a trans-religious source of consciousness and Spirit. Our universe and the Biblical Narrative are both God stories. The Holomovent is to the cosmology of the universe what Christology is to the Narrative. We are proposing that interpreting Christology as a form/religion does not. This part of the series focuses on law and grace. Just as the latest discoveries in Quantum Physics have resulted in new interpretations of our universe so also our integral approach to theology results in a new, wholistic and unified interpretation of the Biblical Narrative.
We continue to compare the new scientific discoveries related to our universe with our approach to a Christology that results in a Post Christian, Trans-religious outcome. The universe is the first story told by God. We propose that the Biblical Narrative mirrors and aligns with that story. Therefore the principles in our own universe provide a trans-disciplinary validation of our approach to Christology. It also illustrates how a divided, denominated Christology, interpreted as a religious form, is very problematic. Today we will consider and discuss both our universe and the narrative in terms of the movement Form, Trans-Form and Formlessness.
We are continuing our series comparing the cosmology of our universe with Biblical cosmology. The next few episodes will focus on one of the most confusing teachings of the world religion Christianity. I’m referring to the concepts of law and grace. At first glance one might wonder what our universe and the Biblical Narrative have in common on this subject. But this series is proposing that the concept of the holomovement in quantum physics aligns beautifully with Christology. However, it’s not the Christology that the Roman Empire handed down 2,000 years ago. It’s not the Christology that is interpreted to be a world religion. It’s not the Christology that divides, separates and denominates. We’re proposing a Christology that reflects the harmony and unity of our universe. We’re proposing a Christology pointing to a trans-religious, post Christian future.
What does the explicate order of our universe as defined by Quantum Physics have to do with the Biblical Narrative? We continue our series by looking at the in-forming movement that led to the form-ation our universe. This story aligns beautifully with the Biblical version of God’s creative action. Today we look at the realm of form(s) in Biblical cosmology. They made up an initial creation or world that was necessary before the coming of a new creation or new heavens and earth. Our universe consists of 2 orders- an explicate and an implicate. The Biblical Narrative also has 2 orders—the heavens and earth of Genesis 1 and the New Heavens and Earth. We will get to the implicate order in Biblical cosmology later in the series. The movement between these 2 orders changes everything regarding long held interpretations of Christology, eschatology, hamartiology, soteriology and ecclesiology! God has 2 narratives, the universe/holomovement and the Biblical narrative. Their meaning and interpretation will either align or not. God is not a God of confusion. God doesn’t provide 2 conflicting stories.
**In continuing our series on the Biblical Narrative as holomovement, I'm recommending you watch the video presentation as it includes 5 diagrams that will be helpful to see as you hear the information. Link to YouTube HERE. In this episode we continue to address the power of convergence. Our proposal is that science is now telling us that the holomovement is nothing less than God’s creative narrative. The radical and dramatic paradigm change is with regard to the interpretation of Christology as a religion, therefore Christianity. We continue to propose that the biblical narrative points away from itself to a universal source or that which is called God. Here are a few of the points that I’ll be discussing in this episode: There is no such thing as ‘the church’. There are only thousands of iterations of what people disagree about ‘the church.’ God’s holomovement narrative is that Christology is transform….it is not a form. We are not eliminating Christology….we’re reinterpreting it. An interpretation that goes beyond a “little God.” The result is universal God identity…not a religion. Christology and the holomovement both tell the story of God’s creative action.
In this series I propose that the holomovement is nothing less than the creative nature of God. Further, I am proposing that when you align the holomovement elements with the Biblical Narrative it provides validation for our ongoing message of universal God identity. This week I'm honored to have Jude Currivan as my guest today. Dr Jude Currivan is a cosmologist, planetary healer, futurist, author, Evolutionary Leaders Circle member and previously a senior UK-based international business woman. www.wholeworld-view.org www.evolutionaryleaders.net #holomovement #spirituality #bible #theology #integral #JudeCurrivan
In this series I propose that the holomovement is nothing less than the creative nature of God. Further, I am proposing that when you align the holomovement elements with the Biblical Narrative it provides validation for our ongoing message of universal God identity. The link to view this on YouTube is HERE.
Today’s podcast is an update on another exciting project. The field of convergence is revealing the importance of unified approaches that lead to global unity. Science and Spirituality is an example. Presence has already shown how the historical model of Spiral Dynamics validates our approach to the interpretation of the Biblical Narrative. Now we are working with those in the fields of science to do the same. As science and spirituality converge we can now compare how the many different interpretations of the Biblical Narrative either align or don’t align with the science of our universe. I will specifically talk about the concept of the Holomovement and a project I’m working on with Oxford Physicist Dr. Jude Currivan and Evolutionary Biologist Dr. Kurt Johnson. And this soon to be published work (today’s announcement) will lead into my series this Fall on “The Biblical Narrative as Holomovement.” The excitement level is higher than ever about the future of faith especially as it relates to the amazing Biblical Narrative.
It is becoming more and more clear that something different is happening. A paradigm shift like no other before is now in process. It radically reframes long held views that have now become unworkable. In this episode I describe the Nomad podcast experience with Tim Nash. Link to video cast interview for World Unity Week. Along with Patrick Carolan I discuss this years theme which interestingly enough is, “A Rising New Earth.” The interview is conducted by Ben Bowler and I give some background to his impressive work.
In this podcast episode I discuss the latest news with regard to the major paradigm shifts manifesting around the globe. A new book is now available, The Holomovement; Embracing Our Collective Purpose To Unite Humanity.” I’m honored to have a small part in this collection of essays from leaders representing numerous diverse fields of study and research. It reflects the momentum of something amazing as we enter into this 3rd millennium C.E. Why is Presence a part of a book like this? Well, that’s why we do podcasts! So join me as I outline the next steps for seeing how the Biblical Narrative is contributing to new frontiers of universal love and acceptance. #Holomovement #EvolutionaryLeaders




