Product Rising

What does it mean to be the person responsible for AI ethics inside a 30,000-person company? Shelby Tallent lives this every day. As the leader of AI ethics, responsibility, and compliance for Alaska Airlines, Shelby works at the intersection of technology, governance, and human trust. Her career across Amazon, Nordstrom, and TeleSign has shaped a perspective that blends policy rigor with product execution. In conversation with host Shannon Peavey, Shelby shares why AI ethics is not about slowing innovation but about guiding it. She explains how ethical value systems become practical decision frameworks, how individuals can hold their ground when goals conflict, and why keeping humans in the loop is not optional. AI should not be looked at as a way to “get us out of things,” she said, rather, we should let it expand our capacity to do what once felt impossible.00:00 Introduction 01:49 How Alaska Airlines structures the AI Safety & Compliance role02:18 The ways responsibilities map to company values04:45 Where foundational principles for AI implementation originate05:50 Navigating different AI rules per country07:32 The “9-to-5” of AI Responsibility13:02 Types of risk and how we mitigate16:30 A path of many hats23:00 Keeping humans in the loop29:30 Why we should be optimistic33:00 Shelby’s challenge to your thinking and approach📚Resources:Alaska Airlines - https://www.alaskaair.com/International Association of Privacy Professionals https://iapp.org/Cloud Security Alliance https://cloudsecurityalliance.org/The EU AI Act - https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/GDPR - https://gdpr-info.eu/AI.gov - https://www.ai.gov/Microsoft CoPilot https://copilot.microsoft.com/ FigJam https://www.figma.com/figjam/🌟 Where to find Shelby:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shetallent/Where to find our host:Shannon Peavey - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spmad/🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/ Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

If there is one thing we can agree on, AI is everywhere. It promises incredible gains in productivity, creativity, deep analysis, and progress in all kinds of fields from medicine to music. But - AI also brings anxiety, concern, and a great deal of unknowns. We wanted to find out exactly who is thinking about the future of AI in terms of morality, ethics, psychological and physical safety? (Is anyone working on this? Hello?) We are happy to report that indeed, they are. And we want you to meet them. In an exclusive new Product Rising podcast series, host Shannon Peavey explores the world of AI Ethics, Safety & Responsibility through conversations with experts working in AI policy, compliance, accountability, research and safety. She gets into the details to illuminate the ways these men and women are working hard to help shape a future we all want to live in. Whether you’re an individual contributor, leader, founder, or advisor, listen in to learn about this incredibly important field that touches all aspects of tech and quite possibly, will have a profound impact on all of our lives from here.00:20 What this series illuminates01:07 The AI truth is, we don’t know it all 02:34 It’s time to come to terms with AI03:40 Good people out there working on hairy problems05:07 Time to work on minimizing harm06:18 Our guests: consumer, LLMs, tech, policy08:45 Risk mitigation takes all kinds of backgrounds09:57 Causes for optimism11:54 The legacy of Google’s AI principles 14:20 First guest Shelby Tallent (Alaska Airlines)16:04 Our series starts March 24 and continues for 8 weeks: join us!📚Resources:Women in Product - http://womenpm.orgProduct Rising on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/product-rising/id1584224561Product Rising on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7bcyVhpdhw0hbiRr6O4h1UProduct Rising on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLijcNLDj_QE2ge6Wqeh0MLx_qMKwot--9The U.S. government’s AI Literacy Framework https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20260213 Thank you so much to our guests:Shelby Tallent, Alaska Airlines https://www.linkedin.com/in/shetallent/Jen Gennai, T3 https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-gennai-b333933/Tonia Osadebe, OpenAI https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonia-osadebe-a9b1a014/Rebecca Hinds, PhD https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-hinds/Angel Evan, AG Consulting https://www.linkedin.com/in/angel-evan/Tracy Pizzo Frey, Restorative AI https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-frey/Sara Tangdall, Nike https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-tangdall/Where to find our hosts:Shannon Peavey https://www.linkedin.com/in/spmad/Elizabeth Ames https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethames/🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/ Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Julie Wenah joins Carmen Palmer for the second episode in our monthly series, In The Lead. Julie is an incredible storyteller. She shares her experience on building Civil Rights into products from the beginning and why that is critical in the era of AI. She also shares her experience of creating sustainable ambition and redefining success. In The Lead is a monthly series on Product Rising sharing thought provoking conversations with a wide range of industry leaders hosted by Carmen Palmer, CEO of Women In Product. 00:41 Meet Julie Wenah01:51 Owning Every Identity04:50 Redefining Success08:43 Sustainable Ambition10:22 When Products Miss13:27 Carrying The Weight15:50 Who Thrives In Tension20:15 Embedding Civil Rights22:56 AI Fairness Window24:51 Access And Accountability28:31 Access And Human Stories29:37 Releasing Productivity Metrics33:58 Boundaries And Time Blocking36:21 Patience Brick By Brick38:06 Why Storytelling Grounds Us41:40 Justice At Scale Dilemma43:38 Ask And Listen Within47:44 Morning Pages And Resources📚Resources:The Artist’s Way - Book by Julie Cameron Digital Civil Rights Coalition - https://www.digitalcivilrights.com, @digitalcivilrights on Instagram, ✨Where to find Julie:On LinkedIn💫 Where to find Carmen:On LinkedIn 🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

In this episode of Product Rising, we look back at Cassie Campbell’s interview with Tami Reiss, an experienced product leader, speaker, author, trainer, and coach. Elizabeth Ames walks us through a number of clips from the interview that highlight the value of coaching, from early management and leadership roles through the highest levels of leadership. Tami shares what changes as leaders advance, where their time and attention must change. She also has some great advice on building and deploying influence and empathy skills to achieve business objectives, and key skills in communication and using the language of business that are required as you advance. She closes with some great advice on networking and it’s value in finding great opportunities.The original episode was published on May 27, 2025. You can listen to the full episode from that date as well.00:00 Welcome and Series Setup01:48 Why Coaching Matters03:11 Transitioning to Executive04:35 Strategy vs Execution Pendulum06:53 Influence and Empathy Skills10:01 Speaking Investor Language12:25 Networking for New Roles13:34 Wrap Up and Where to Listen✨Where to find Tami Reiss:On LinkedInTami’s Website - My Leader Within (with booking link)💫 Where to find Cassie:On LinkedIn At Cassie Camp - Learn more about product leadership coaching and fractional product leadership🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

There is a lot of debate about the state of the job market today. We definitely hear a lot about layoffs in the big tech companies and also about AI eliminating positions. But AI may be having a bigger impact in the requirements for specific roles and even perhaps new types of roles. We will be having periodic conversations with leading recruiters, hiring managers, and others about the evolving job market and what it takes to get hired/noticed. Our first conversation is with Sally Thornton, CEO & Founder of Forshay, a firm that combines Executive recruiting with interim experts across Finance, HR, and Operations, and by aligning culture and leadership development skills to optimize team performance.02:17 Forshay Firm Overview03:27 Job Market Reality Check06:09 Entry Level Pipeline Crunch07:44 Where Hiring Is Growing08:33 What Employers Want Now09:56 Proving Curiosity in Interviews11:34 Influence as a Core Skill12:38 AI Transparency and Flatter Teams14:47 Fractional Leadership Explained19:36 How Orgs Are Reshaping for AI22:43 The Rise of the AI Scout24:55 Building an AI Experiment Team25:43 Choosing Tools That Fit27:16 AI in Hiring and Resume Filters29:19 Beating the Rejection Machine31:36 Community as Career Support32:14 AI as Reflective Hiring Partner34:37 Gut Instinct Versus Data37:40 Future Proofing Through Community39:56 Give More and Experiment Often41:16 Tools That Reduce Overwork43:42 Wrap Up and Where to Follow📚Resources:To Sell is Human, Daniel Pink🌟 Where to find Sally:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallythornton/Forshay: https://forshay.com🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/ Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Building Community & Becoming a Super ConnectorIn this episode Ha Nguyen, Founder and Managing Partner of NextStep Advisory & Consulting, shares the work and life experiences that have led her to being an exceptional community builder and super connector. She joins host, Surbhi Gupta, to share the value of being a go-giver, and how visibility and being able to speak up has powered her career and can do the same for yours. 🎧 Episode Highlights:01:47 Ha’s Product Origin Story: eBay in 2000 to Product Leadership03:00 From Introvert to Speaking Up: HBS & Finding Your Voice05:20 Becoming a Super Connector: Community Building & VC Brand08:49 Visibility Isn’t Automatic: Ask for What You Want (Promotion Stories)14:05 When Leadership Isn’t Moving Fast Enough: Timing, Titles & Leaving17:12 Create Your Own Luck: Habits, Confidence, and Taking Risks20:58 Build a Personal Board of Directors (and Nurture Relationships)25:19 Finding Sponsors in Big Companies: Skip-Level Relationships & Persistence27:19 Make Better Asks: Follow-Ups, Value, and Time-Bound Requests28:29 Make the Ask Easy: Be Specific and Respect Their Time28:51 Add Value First: The Go-Giver Mindset (and Why Karma Works)30:13 Building Relationships with Your Skip: Do Great Work + Lead with Empathy33:40 Create Visibility Beyond Your Role: Coaches, Boards, and Career “Hacks”36:04 Personal Brand That Pays Off: Writing, Speaking, and Staying Top-of-Mind39:53 The Hidden Cost of Visibility: Too Many Asks & Setting Boundaries42:56 Who You Are Outside Work: Mission Alignment, Family, Hobbies, and Health45:55 Balancing It All: A 2x2 Framework for Goals vs. Joy + Daily Habits49:47 Visibility Skills That Scale: Speak Business/Finance + Customer Obsession52:19 Resources, Recommendations, and How to Connect (Final Wrap)Resources📚Resources:BooksGo-Giver book - https://thegogiver.comSeven Habits of Highly Effective People - https://www.franklincovey.com/courses/the-7-habits/Podcasts20VC - https://www.youtube.com/@20VCThis Week in Startups - https://thisweekinstartups.com🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/💫 Where to find Ha On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/hanguyen-spero/NextStep Advisory & Consulting Website https://nextstepfwd.com🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Deb Liu joins Carmen Palmer for the first episode in our monthly series, In The Lead. Deb shares insights from her year away from titles and company affiliations - what she did, what she learned and the clarity she is carrying forward in 2026. As always, Deb has great insights and advice.In The Lead is a new monthly series on Product Rising. It will share thought provoking conversations hosted by Carmen Palmer, CEO of Women In Product, with a wide range of industry leaders. It uses a revolving set of questions to get an engaging combination of hot takes and deep insight into the current state of product, working and leading in today’s technology industry, and building effective organizations.00:45 Meet Deb Liu: Tech Executive and Author02:28 Defining Success in the New Year03:03 The Blank Name Tag Club04:58 Navigating Career Transitions09:27 Overcoming Failure: The Facebook Marketplace Story14:08 Building Perseverance Through Adversity18:43 The Evolving Role of Product Managers22:07 Understanding Customer Needs in AI Startups23:26 Understanding Customer Needs24:01 The Role of Product Managers25:14 Strategic Positioning in Companies26:09 Adapting to Technological Changes28:35 Leadership and Empathy29:33 Opportunities for Product Leaders in AI33:07 Personal Experiences and Insights36:07 Challenges in Corporate Life43:15 Future of Leadership and Technology45:59 Closing Reflections📚Resources:Perspectives Newsletter On SubstackTEDxSanDiego talk - Deb Liu✨Where to find Deb:On LinkedInPerspectives Newsletter On SubstackDeb’s  WebsiteTEDx Talk💫 Where to find Carmen:On LinkedIn 🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Nik Sharma, CEO of Sharma Brands and one of Forbes’ 30 under 30 has a lot to say about visibility. In this episode he joins host, Surbhi Gupta, to discuss how the playbook he has developed for building visibility for big brands can also work for regular people. While Nik isn’t shy he also isn’t hung up on being perfect or creating the perfect content. What he is hung up on is delivering value. He is constantly thinking about how to provide value in the content he posts. Something many product leaders are familiar with! He also believes in putting in the work. Visibility doesn’t happen overnight, it takes effort and commitment but it can pay big dividends. 🎧 Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction to Visibility02:29 Nick's Background and Expertise03:08 Defining Visibility04:51 Nick's Career Journey06:00 Building Personal Visibility11:42 Overcoming Hesitations and Myths15:58 Celebrating Wins and Company Culture17:58 Leveraging Social Media for Visibility22:40 Persistence and Authenticity in Content Creation24:26 Insights on Podcasting27:03 Professional Setup Tips for Content Creation27:49 Balancing Short-term and Long-term Visibility28:19 Building a Community and Setting Goals30:27 Impact of Small Tweaks on Visibility31:56 Lessons from the Director of Performance Marketing32:35 Visibility Strategies for Tech Professionals34:53 Overcoming Shyness and Building Confidence37:15 The Importance of Showing Up45:26 Crafting and Sharing Your Story48:00 Handling Negative Feedback and Staying Authentic49:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts📚Resources:Ship 30 for 30 Digital Writing Course - https://www.ship30for30.comWrite of Passage - https://writeofpassage.com🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/💫 Where to find Nik On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrniksharma/Website https://www.nik.coOn X @mrsharmaSharma Brands - https://sharmabrands.comNewsletter - https://sharmabrands.com/blogs/newsletter🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

”Visibility is how clearly our work, our impact, our leadership, are being recognized by our teams, our peers, the wider organization and broader community.  it's not about being seen, it's about ensuring that the value you add is acknowledged and understood,” Marily Nika, Ph.DIn this episode Marily joins host, Surbhi Gupta, to discuss how she has built her visibility to include work inside and outside of where she works. Marily has built a reputation as a product leader broadly by educating through courses, books, a substack newsletter and a LinkedIn profile filled with information. Her work is followed by over 124K people on LinkedIn and her courses on Maven have been taken by over 8,000 people. 🎧 Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Welcome02:06 Defining Visibility03:10 Marilee's Journey to Visibility05:22 Building Technical Visibility07:05 Taking Risks and Early Success08:41 Overcoming Shyness and Anxiety09:58 Advice for Women in Tech12:01 The Importance of Networking17:09 Debunking Myths About Visibility20:17 Leveraging LinkedIn for Visibility27:49 Balancing Multiple Roles28:37 Creating and Teaching Courses31:39 Final Advice and EncouragementResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Marily On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/marilynika/On Substack https://substack.com/@marilynika?On Maven https://maven.com/marily-nika/ai-product-management• 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Visibility can help leaders be in touch with their audience and deliver value to them. Megh Gautam has been writing and speaking about a range of product and business challenges for years. He has represented his products and the companies that he has worked for while building an authentic brand as a product leader. On this episode, Surbhi Gupta, host of The Visibility Equation and seasoned product leader, talks to Megh about how he has gone about building professional visibility and how it has helped the companies he’s been a part of while staying authentic to who he is.🎧 Episode Highlights:00:00 Introduction and Background02:12 Biggest Career Risk and Lessons Learned03:40 Crunchbase's AI Evolution05:29 Building Professional Visibility08:40 Writing and Consistency in Professional Growth11:58 Personal Branding and Career Insights17:01 Engaging with Audiences and Public Speaking27:54 The Dynamics of Real-Life Presentations30:21 Key Takeaways for Professional Visibility31:48 Balancing Humor and Education39:20 Navigating Introversion in Professional Settings42:36 Leveraging AI for Professional Growth45:35 Recommended Reads and Podcasts48:33 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Megh On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghbartma/During the conversation Megh mentioned the following resources7 Rules of Power: Surprising--but True--Advice on How to Get Things Done and Advance Your Career - Professor Jeffrey PfefferCue the Sun! The Invention of Reality TV - Emily NussbaumAI And The Future of Work - Podcast with Dan TurchinSmart Venture Podcast with Grace GongThe Economist Podcast• 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Visibility is a superpower for leaders—but building it authentically can feel challenging. On this episode, Surbhi Gupta, host of The Visibility Equation and seasoned product leader, sits down with Lauren Weinstein, Executive Coach and Founder of Resonate Consulting , to explore how each of us can own our narrative and communicate with expertise and a grounded flow.Lauren shares practical strategies and tactics to speak with expertise and authenticity in every situation. Together, they dive into inspiring stories and the realities of finding your authentic voice.🎧 Episode Highlights:02:53 Journey to Strategic Communication04:31 Pivotal Career Moments06:33 Achieving Flow State10:14 Overcoming High-Stakes Pressure11:43 The Power of Breath Work16:13 Connecting with Your Audience28:51 Storytelling and Effective Communication34:45 Making Communication Concrete and Vivid35:01 The Power of Stories and Examples35:28 Summarizing Effective Communication35:56 The Razorfish Example37:10 Uber Eats Pricing Algorithm37:31 The Importance of Storytelling39:00 Myth-Busting Visibility Strategies41:33 The Role of Authenticity in Networking48:54 The Impact of Positive Thinking50:28 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs01:02:54 Practical Tips for Building Visibility Resources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Lauren On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/weinsteinlauren/Her website - https://www.elevateyourhappiness.us/During the conversation Lauren mentioned the following resourcesThe Happy Secret to Better Work, TED Talk by Shawn AchorThe Charisma Myth, by Olivia Fox CabaneMade To Stick, Chip Heath & Dan HeathMan’s Search For Meaning, Viktor FranklThink Fast Talk Smart (podcast), Matt AbrahamsGive And Take, Adam GrantDon’t Believe Everything You Think, Lauren Weinstein TEDx Talk3 Truths You Need to Hear: The Best Expert Advice to Unlock Your Potential, Mel Robbins Podcast with James Doty• 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Visibility is a superpower for leaders—but building it authentically can feel challenging. On this episode, Surbhi Gupta, host of The Visibility Equation and seasoned product leader, sits down with Lexy Franklin, CEO & Founder of Sidebar, to explore how leaders can own their narrative, amplify their impact, and connect with their authentic selves.Lexy shares practical strategies on building visibility, overcoming public speaking anxiety, nurturing relationships, and navigating the leadership journey. Together, they dive into inspiring stories, actionable insights, and the realities behind professional growth at leadership levels🎧 Episode Highlights:02:28 Key Skills for Success and Visibility03:26 The Importance of Learning and Mentorship05:16 Embracing Failure as a Path to Success08:17 The Power of Asking for Help18:22 Owning Your Story and Wins27:00 The Necessity of Visibility30:52 Embracing Uncertainty and Positive Energy31:50 The Art of Decision Making36:56 Building Blocks of Visibility42:24 The Power of Books and Personal Growth52:42 Celebrating Success and Leadership53:55 Final Thoughts and Book RecommendationsResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Lexy On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexyfranklin/During the conversation Lexy mentioned the following booksCrossing the Unknown Sea, David WhyteLet My People Go Surfing, Yvon Chouinard• 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

In this episode, we got some straight talk from Teresa Torres, learning how she incorporates her masters in Learning & Development from Northwestern into her design of product learning experiences. Teresa shares invaluable insights about when blogs and podcasts might be enough for your growth—and when training courses may really be what's needed to take you to the next level. Do you know if you have blind spots? Or are you navigating some unique and tricky contexts where a coach can help? This far-ranging episode explores all these concepts with the founder of Product Talk and author of 'Continuous Discovery Habits'. Teresa discusses the fundamental differences between coaching and training and highlights the importance of deliberate practice in skill development. She offers practical advice on advocating for discovery practices within organizations and provides tips for product leaders to enhance their teams' capabilities. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of product development and improve their practice through structured learning.00:00 Introduction to Skill Building and Coaching00:35 Sponsored Segment: SuperInterviews01:26 Welcome01:32 Guest Introduction: Teresa Torres02:36 The Journey from Coaching to Training05:06 Understanding the Difference Between Coaching and Training09:57 The Role of Deliberate Practice in Skill Building14:54 The Importance of Community and Peer Coaching21:57 Understanding Business Outcomes22:23 The Challenge of Opportunity Solution Trees23:22 Effective Discovery Practices24:57 Choosing the Right Trainer or Coach27:29 Reflective Questions for Product Teams32:50 Advocating for Discovery in Organizations36:42 The Role of Product Leadership Coaching40:31 Aligning Sales and Product Teams45:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts📚Resources:Teresa’s website - Product TalkContinuous Discovery Habits✨Where to find Teresa:On LinkedIn💫 Where to find Cassie:On LinkedIn At Cassie Camp - Learn more about product leadership coaching and fractional product leadership🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

In this episode, Cassie welcomes Bosky Mukherjee, the prolific founder of PM Dojo and SheTrailblazes, and a veteran product advisor, leadership coach, and trainer. Bosky discusses her journey into product leadership, the formation of PM Dojo, and her mission to support women in product management. The conversation delves into the nuances of product management training versus coaching, the impact of AI on the industry, and strategies for driving cultural shifts within organizations. Bosky also shares insights on balancing humility with confidence and offers practical advice on leveraging coaching to unlock business potential and personal growth.More about Bosky:Bosky Mukherjee, an executive tech leader with over 22 years of global experience—spanning early-stage startups to high-growth companies like Atlassian.She’s the founder of SheTrailblazes and a powerful force for change in how women succeed, thrive, and rise to the top. Through her flagship program, Leadership Edge, Bosky equips women to lead with strategic visibility and executive communication—fast-tracking their path to promotion, all the way to the C-suite, and when the time is right, into entrepreneurship.Her work isn’t just about career growth. It’s about power, parity, and making sure women aren’t just at the table—but driving the agenda.Bosky is also the founder of PMDojo, where she helps companies build stronger, more strategic innovation teams—equipping product and technology talent to drive bigger business impact and communicate with executive fluency.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:49 Bosky's Journey into Product Leadership01:36 Challenges and Realizations in the Executive Room03:05 Founding PM Dojo and Its Mission04:50 AI in Product Management09:41 Training vs. Product Leadership Coaching11:05 Coaching Styles and Skills Development15:03 Working with Companies and Teams18:56 Driving Cultural Shifts in Organizations23:19 Assigning Dollar Value to Business Transformation23:33 Navigating Product Leadership Challenges24:38 Implementing Small Shifts for Big Changes25:25 Facilitating Business Conversations26:47 Success Stories and Skill Development28:39 Working It Out: Lessons from School30:26 Confidence, Humility, and Curiosity31:55 Hiring a Coach: When and Why34:53 Building Community and Networking38:18 Creative Budget Solutions for Product Teams44:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts📚Resources:✨Where to find Bosky Mukherjee:On LinkedInSheTrailblazesPMDojo💫 Where to find Cassie:On LinkedIn At Cassie Camp - Learn more about product leadership coaching and fractional product leadership🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

Visibility is a superpower for leaders—but building it authentically can feel challenging. On this episode, Surbhi Gupta, host of The Visibility Equation and seasoned product leader, sits down with Lexy Franklin, CEO & Founder of Sidebar, to explore how leaders can own their narrative, amplify their impact, and connect with their authentic selves.Lexy shares practical strategies on building visibility, overcoming public speaking anxiety, nurturing relationships, and navigating the leadership journey. Together, they dive into inspiring stories, actionable insights, and the realities behind professional growth at leadership levels🎧 Episode Highlights:02:28 Key Skills for Success and Visibility03:26 The Importance of Learning and Mentorship05:16 Embracing Failure as a Path to Success08:17 The Power of Asking for Help18:22 Owning Your Story and Wins27:00 The Necessity of Visibility30:52 Embracing Uncertainty and Positive Energy31:50 The Art of Decision Making36:56 Building Blocks of Visibility42:24 The Power of Books and Personal Growth52:42 Celebrating Success and Leadership53:55 Final Thoughts and Book RecommendationsResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Lexy On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexyfranklin/During the conversation Lexy mentioned the following booksCrossing the Unknown Sea, David WhyteLet My People Go Surfing, Yvon Chouinard• 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

The Visibility Equation is a weekly podcast series that demystifies the art of professional visibility. It is designed to empower ambitious product leaders (and leaders across tech) to own their narratives and amplify their impact. Through in-depth conversations with accomplished leaders in product management, design, and engineering, we'll delve into practical strategies, inspiring stories, and actionable insights to help listeners build visibility without falling into the “humble brag” trap.This episode is a conversation with Shyvee Shi, Principal Product Manager at Microsoft. Shyvee shares her experience at LinkedIn where she built a large and engaged product community of over 100,000 followers and the more focused building of an AI community at Microsoft.  She shares her insight and experience of sharing and building in public, and building spaces for others to share. She touches on how to get started sharing, building visibility inside and outside of your current role, and her passion for learning, sharing with others and supporting people’s learning and growth.In this episode she shares insight 01:58 Taking Risks02:09 Overcoming Cultural Barriers02:49 Career Transition During COVID03:03 Building a Public Presence07:20 Choosing the Right Platforms09:46 Starting the Visibility Journey18:29 Misconceptions About Professional Visibility22:25 Nurturing Relationships and Community27:07 The Myth of Overnight Success27:19 The Modern Approach to Launching27:59 Building and Testing Your Ideas29:09 The Role of a Future of Work Product Builder30:49 Overcoming Public Speaking Anxiety32:51 The BRAVE Framework for Public Speaking38:22 Handling Criticism and Negative Feedback44:18 Future Plans and Career Reflections45:40 Advice for Building Professional Visibility50:15 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsResources• 🌟 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 💫 Where to find Shyvee On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shyveeshi/During the conversation Shyvee mentioned a website that she used early in her journey called, Visualize Value, you can find it here - https://visualizevalue.comShyvee also wanted to share a talk from her former VP at Maven on building a personal brand. You can find it here - Lighthouse Lessons on MavenShyvee also shared a deep-dive interview she did with a fellow career coach on how we can leverage AI to communicate better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-To9KdJ9RI8 • 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

The Visibility Equation is a weekly podcast series that demystifies the art of professional visibility. It is designed to empower ambitious product leaders (and leaders across tech) to own their narratives and amplify their impact. Through in-depth conversations with accomplished leaders in product management, design, and engineering, we'll delve into practical strategies, inspiring stories, and actionable insights to help listeners build visibility without falling into the “humble brag” trap.00:00 Introduction to The Visibility Equation01:25 The Importance of Visibility02:59 Surbhi's Personal Journey06:59 Strategies for Building Visibility11:25 Why Visibility Matters Now14:55 About the Interviews18:20 First Episode PreviewResources• 🌟 Where to find Elizabeth:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethames/• 💫 Where to find Surbhi On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/• 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/• - Website https://womenpm.org/• - Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

The key to longevity in today’s ever-changing tech landscape? Yes, you’ve heard it before: maintaining a positive outlook and a growth mindset so you can remain as versatile as possible. Easier said than done? Perhaps. But this week’s guest, Japna Sethi, absolutely embodies this. Japna runs the Jira product group at Atlassian, and has turned her origins in physics and materials science into a career that spans hardware design, software development, growth product management, advising, angel investing, even real estate. Hear about her path and be inspired by her advice on networking, lifelong learning, and doubling down on your strengths. Japna encourages us to get to know our authentic selves better, and to engage in regular, healthy bouts of self-reflection. 00:00 Introduction 01:48 An unusual path to product management06:08 The scientific method works for product, too09:15 Always be learning10:13 Double down on your strengths12:45 Leverage network effects13:38 How to think about angel investing15:30 The “Get Sh*t Done” framework21:00 Why we should be excited about AI22:50 Save time to explore24:45 Where to learn more about Japna📚Resources:Atlassianhttps://www.atlassian.com/“Get Shit Done” by Jeffrey GitomerAvailable on Amazon, Kindle, B&N, and bookstores nationwideCalendlyhttps://www.calendly.com/Product Boardhttps://productboard.com/Loopshttps://www.getloops.ai/Otter.ai

We all want real advice on how to grow a career, right? Meet this week’s guest, Laura Schaffer, Vice President of Growth at DigitalOcean. Laura got her start in sales, and now leads a cross-functional team that includes Growth R&D and Marketing. Prior to DigitalOcean, she built Growth and Product teams at companies like Twilio, Amplitude, and Bandwidth, bringing a depth of experience in product-led growth and experimentation. In conversation with host Shannon Peavey, Laura offers her perspective on making your mark as a product manager, and talks about the power of spending time on validation and fast-fail experimentation. 00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:48 How a sales job lead to a growth career06:50 North Star metrics for the win09:03 How PLG work WITH, not INSTEAD of sales10:00 Bringing sales “snacks” to yield a “buffet”18:34 Validation doesn’t have to mean A/B testing24:00 Experiment fast - and often27:00 Big wins can come from small changes30:00 How is product management changing?33:00 Make time for AI📚Resources:Reforgehttps://www.reforge.com/DigitalOceanhttps://www.digitalocean.com/Amplitudehttps://amplitude.com/Bandwidthhttps://www.bandwidth.com/Twiliohttps://www.twilio.com/en-us🌟 Where to find Laura:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauraschaffer/🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product:On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/ Website https://womenpm.org/Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

In this episode, Pendo’s senior vice president of product and u/x Nichole Mace talks with host Shannon Peavey about the growth mindset that infiltrates her company’s culture. She illuminates the differences between core product work and product growth work and shares her tips on ways companies can cultivate a collaborative environment, where the spirit of experimentation becomes contagious. Chapters:4:05 Why growth needs to be prioritized6:19  Organizing your mind for pursuing multiple goals7:50 Cultivating team spirit9:30 Knowing when the time is right for a growth push10:50 Why experimentation can be contagious13:40 Nichole’s path into growth15:45 Skills for great growth leaders18:50 How pivots happen: the ZipCar example21:00 Growth loops are golden23:00 Nichole’s 6 Core Product Growth Principles 31:00 What’s AI’s impact?32:15 Life in balanceWhere to find Nichole:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nichole-mace-44bb65/Nichole Mace’s PLG websitehttps://www.nicholemace.com/Resources:Pendo https://www.pendo.io/Constant Contact https://www.constantcontact.com/LastPass https://www.lastpass.com/BevSpot https://bevspot.com/ZipCar https://www.zipcar.com/