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Provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton
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"Provoked" features Scott Horton and Darryl Cooper exploring the psychology of conflict and how ordinary people become participants in cycles of violence.
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A “ceasefire” that still features explosions doesn’t deserve the name. Scott Horton, and guest host Kyle Anzalone dig into what’s actually happening in Gaza right now—why strikes continue, how Israeli forces are repositioning instead of leaving, and what the Lebanon “truce” teaches us about violations becoming a daily routine. From there, we trace the political chess behind the deal: Trump’s pressure on Netanyahu, Kushner’s handshake-first style, and the side understandings that let Israel snap back to war at the first alleged breach. Phase A promises hostages and more aid; Phase B whispers about withdrawal and reconstruction. The text is vague. The incentives are not.We map the tripwires that could unravel everything: a landscape seeded with unexploded ordnance, fragmented command across shattered neighborhoods, and continued occupation that heightens the chance of a single incident becoming pretext. Aid numbers sound big until you compare them to need—warehouses emptied, infrastructure erased, and malnutrition spreading. When institutions like schools, mosques, and hospitals are targeted, communities lose their anchors. The human cost isn’t just today’s body count; it’s the trauma curve of an entire generation: orphans, amputees who require surgeries as they grow, and children whose brains and futures are shaped by hunger and fear.We widen the lens to Iran, where deterrence dynamics after the 12-day exchange leave room for miscalculation. Claims about destroyed nuclear sites are overstated; the real question is whether Tehran rebuilds, leverages restraint, or gets painted into a corner. Then we pivot to Venezuela, where sanctions strangled the economy and fueled migration—and where Washington now flirts with escalation under a drug-war banner. Installing a friendly figurehead is not a strategy; it’s an ignition source. Even those who dislike Maduro will resist a foreign imposition, and any strike invites regional blowback, oil shocks, and a crisis that doesn’t stay within borders.Under it all runs a simple throughline: wars are driven by incentives. Politicians, lobbies, contractors, and media ecosystems gain from “flexible” ceasefires, permanent emergencies, and righteous strikes that never quite end. If we want real de-escalation, we have to insist on terms that can’t be gamed: open access for aid, verifiable withdrawals, clear red lines against collective punishment, and real accountability when they’re crossed. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend who follows foreign policy, and leave a review with your biggest question—what would it take to make a ceasefire mean cease fire?Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/provoked-with-darryl-cooper-and-scott-horton/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Start with the question everyone dodges: why did October 7 happen—and why did the story that followed look so different from the facts on the ground? We sit down with Max Blumenthal to trace the long arc from siege and failed truces to an operation designed to seize leverage through captives, disrupt the Abraham Accords, and force a political reset. From Sinwar’s rise and an overland breach that stunned the Gaza Division to the chaos around the Nova festival, we map the day’s hard realities—and the decisions that magnified them.Then we go after the narratives. Atrocity Inc isn’t a contrarian hot take; it’s a methodical look at claims that raced around the world: “beheaded babies,” mass rape, and other shock headlines that shaped a public mandate for a maximal war. We weigh what’s proven and what collapsed under scrutiny, how the Hannibal Directive became “mass Hannibal,” and why Apache pilots firing with thin intel likely torched scores of vehicles carrying civilians. This isn’t exculpation of crimes by militants; it’s a demand that evidence—not atrocity inflation—set the limits of force.Finally, we pull back the lens. Israeli politics and media culture—judicial fights, messianic factions, and a siege mentality trained from adolescence—collide with a public that wants hostages home even as leaders move the goalposts. We talk incentives, not slogans: how negotiation looks when the only leverage is human, why foreknowledge claims miss structural failures, and what it would take to stop a war that metastasized on the back of myth.If you care about truth in wartime, hostages returning alive, and policy made on verifiable facts, this conversation will give you a sharper map. Listen, share with someone who follows the headlines, and tell us: which claim did you once believe—and what changed your mind? Subscribe for more grounded, evidence-driven episodes, and leave a review to help others find the show.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/provoked-with-darryl-cooper-and-scott-horton/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Start with a simple claim: rules only matter if everyone believes they bind everyone. From there, we pull a thread through media smears, unequal justice, and the hard truth that modern politics already runs on “exceptions” to the rules. We’re not romanticizing power or hunting for a strongman; we’re asking why the ordinary law—applied evenly—feels so rare, and what it would take to make it normal again.With Auron MacIntyre joining us, we put Carl Schmitt in his place: not as a mentor to emulate, but as a mapmaker of uncomfortable terrain. His line about the “sovereign” deciding when rules don’t apply rings familiar after years of emergency orders, selective prosecutions, and agencies governing by letter instead of law. We trace how the administrative state grew behind judicial deference, how anarcho-tyranny rewards street violence while penalizing technicalities, and why calling this out gets mislabeled as extremism. The punchline isn’t “break the system”; it’s the opposite—use the laws we have, evenly and transparently, to reestablish the baseline that protects all sides.We also press a cultural point that legalisms dodge: a constitution is a living practice, not just language. Rome stayed a republic when Romans honored republican limits; paper alone couldn’t save it when belief died. Translate that to today and a path emerges: shorten emergencies, narrow agency deference, prosecute violence consistently, and end back-channel censorship. If platforms truly host criminal coordination, use existing statutes narrowly; if government leans on companies to silence lawful speech, treat it as state action and stop it. And amid heated foreign policy rhetoric, we draw a boundary—no outside government should set our domestic speech norms or enforcement priorities.Call it a restoration agenda: fewer exceptions, more accountability, and a civic culture that takes equal protection seriously. If that resonates, subscribe, share this episode, and leave a review with your take on the single reform that would rebuild trust fastest.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/provoked-with-darryl-cooper-and-scott-horton/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
The comfortable illusion of American hyperpower is shattering before our eyes. Scott Horton and Daryl Cooper take us on a journey through the collapsing facade of post-Cold War unipolarity, revealing how traditional geopolitical forces are reasserting themselves across the globe.What happens when countries once again must interact as genuine equals rather than subordinates to American power? The evidence is mounting - from South Asia to the Middle East - that we're witnessing the end of what Scott and Daryl call "a long vacation from history" where consequences for American failures seemed perpetually delayed.The conversation weaves through recent developments that signal this profound shift: Trump's puzzling claims about reclaiming Bagram Airbase, Russia and China's expanding influence, and Netanyahu's disturbing declarations at the UN. With scholarly precision, they dissect how China's strategy fundamentally differs from America's - preferring economic engagement over military domination - and why American foreign policy elites seem incapable of recognizing this reality.Perhaps most chilling is their examination of nuclear strategy in this new multipolar world. Cold War deterrence models break down dangerously when three major powers enter the equation, as revealed in declassified war games where planners concluded that attacking Russia meant attacking China too - simply to prevent them from "inheriting the world."The discussion on Gaza and Israel's strategy provides a sobering case study in how insurgencies cannot be defeated through pure military might - a lesson America failed to learn in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Netanyahu's claim that allowing Palestinians to flee proves the conflict isn't genocidal receives a devastating historical critique.Throughout, Scott and Daryl maintain their trademark blend of deep historical knowledge, critical analysis, and moral clarity. This episode isn't just about understanding today's headlines - it's about grasping the fundamental transformation of the international order and what it means for humanity's future.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/provoked-with-darryl-cooper-and-scott-horton/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
When tragedy strikes, principles are tested. The assassination of Charlie Kirk has exposed fault lines in how Americans approach free speech, revealing a disturbing willingness to abandon constitutional protections during moments of crisis. Scott and Daryl navigate this treacherous terrain with nuance, examining how the FCC's targeting of Jimmy Kimmel represents the dangerous "ratchet effect" that consistently expands government power following each national emergency. They argue that maintaining consistent principles isn't just morally correct but strategically essential—abandoning free speech protections today guarantees they'll be weaponized against you tomorrow.The conversation draws compelling parallels to 1968, when assassinations and political disappointments caused many Americans to lose faith in established channels of protest. When people believe the system has failed them completely, they turn to increasingly radical alternatives, creating unpredictable and often destructive consequences. "People are on the edge in terms of their faith in the system right now," Daryl warns. "It is hanging by the last, thinnest thread in the tapestry."A particularly fascinating segment explores how America's inconsistent foreign policy has destroyed our international credibility, comparing our national behavior to that of a "psychopath burning bridges everywhere they go." From broken promises with Russia to underhanded dealings with Iran, these betrayals create lasting damage that outlives any administration.Throughout the episode, Scott and Daryl make a compelling case for decentralization as a practical solution that could appeal across the political spectrum. By returning more decision-making power to local communities, we might reduce the temperature of national politics and create space for actual governance rather than perpetual culture war.Don't miss this thought-provoking conversation that goes beyond the headlines to examine the deeper currents threatening American society. Subscribe now and join us in exploring how we might preserve our republic in increasingly challenging times.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction and Awards
6:11 Daryl's Upcoming Enemy Episode
15:48 Charlie Kirk Assassination and Free Speech
29:17 Government Deterrence vs. Market Pressure
42:52 Ukraine War and American Credibility
51:27 Conspiracy Theories and Critical Thinking
1:10:52 Political Polarization and Social Breakdown
1:24:22 Decentralization as a Solution
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In the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, Scott Horton and Daryl Cooper deliver a profoundly important conversation about the state of American political discourse and what happens when words are replaced by violence. This episode captures a raw, unfiltered moment as two thoughtful commentators process a national tragedy in real-time.
"You either use institutions as a way of peacefully hashing these questions out or there's violence underneath it," Cooper observes, crystallizing the fundamental choice facing American society. Kirk, regardless of one's opinion of his politics, embodied a commitment to civil dialogue that makes his violent end particularly troubling. He was, as Cooper notes, someone who "deserved it a hell of a lot less than many of us."
The conversation explores how political violence has become normalized, with both hosts examining the dangerous territory America enters when citizens no longer believe in resolving differences through debate. They challenge listeners on both sides of the political spectrum to resist calls for escalation or authoritarian crackdowns that would only exacerbate divisions.
What emerges is a powerful reminder that beneath our political differences, Americans remain deeply interconnected. "The left half of America ain't really going anywhere," Horton emphasizes, making peaceful coexistence not just desirable but necessary. The hosts also tackle other pressing issues—including mental health crises (with 26% of young Americans having considered suicide), economic instability, and what true freedom of speech requires in practice.
This episode serves as both a warning about where America might be headed if we continue dehumanizing political opponents and a call to recommit to the principles of civil dialogue that Kirk himself championed. It's an essential listen for anyone concerned about the future of American democracy and our capacity to live together despite our differences.
Chapters:
0:00 Reacting to Charlie Kirk's Assassination
10:37 The Civil Veneer of Politics
22:33 Democracy's Violence Problem
36:24 The Root Causes of Social Breakdown
55:01 The Truth About Cultural Degradation
1:09:24 Civil War Fears and Political Reality
1:24:45 Protecting Free Speech Culture
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The world is changing fast—but U.S. foreign policy is stuck in the past. In this in-depth conversation, Scott Horton and Darryl Cooper break down three global flashpoints where Washington’s outdated strategies are fueling instability instead of peace.
👉 Ukraine War: How ultranationalist forces, like Azov Battalion founder Andrei Beletsky, are rising in wartime—and why peace talks with Russia in 2022 were derailed by Western interference, prolonging the Ukraine–Russia conflict.
👉 Israel & Gaza Crisis: Why Netanyahu’s push for West Bank annexation and permanent war risks turning Israel into a militarized garrison state—deepening the Israel–Palestine conflict with no path to lasting peace.
👉 The New Multipolar World: A rising alliance between Russia, China, India, and North Korea signals the decline of American hegemony. Washington’s refusal to adapt to a multipolar order could prove disastrous for U.S. foreign policy and global stability.
If you want to cut through the noise and understand what’s really driving today’s conflicts, this discussion is essential viewing.
📌 Topics Covered: Ukraine war, Azov Battalion, Andrei Beletsky, U.S. foreign policy, Israel Gaza war, Netanyahu, Russia China alliance, multipolar world, American empire, geopolitics explained.
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War leaves scars far beyond the battlefield.
In this episode of Provoked, Scott and Darryl dive into the human side of conflict—how the pain we feel in our own lives mirrors the heartbreak endured daily in places like Gaza, Yemen, Iraq, and Somalia—only compounded by violence and destruction. As Darryl puts it, “They’re feeling the same thing you would feel.”
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Darryl is traveling this week. So Scott invited a good friend of both to join the show!
ENJOY! (prod. chris did a lot censoring to keep YT happy! :) )
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The war in Ukraine grinds on with no end in sight as peace negotiations repeatedly fail due to poison pills disguised as compromise. Scott Horton and GUEST host - Comic Dave Smith dissect the recent talks in Alaska, where "security guarantees" for Ukraine functioned as NATO membership by another name—a non-starter for Russia and likely designed to be rejected.
Russia continues making steady territorial gains, now controlling approximately three-quarters of Donetsk and two-thirds of both Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. This slow-motion advance strengthens Putin's negotiating position while depleting Ukrainian resources. The fundamental misunderstanding of the conflict's origins—demonstrated even by Donald Trump's belief that "Obama gave Ukraine to Putin" rather than recognizing NATO expansion as the core issue—makes meaningful resolution nearly impossible.
Perhaps most concerning is the rising influence of Ukraine's far-right nationalist elements, particularly the Azov Battalion. What began as a volunteer militia in 2014 has evolved into an official military unit with explicit neo-Nazi connections. Recent reporting reveals Azov leader Andrei Beletsky is positioning himself for political power in post-war Ukraine, envisioning a militarized state modeled after Israel. Western defense contractors reportedly prefer working with Azov units because they operate outside normal Ukrainian military command structures without demanding kickbacks.
The conversation shifts to examining how Israel's campaign in Gaza has fundamentally altered media dynamics in the United States. Prominent right-wing commentators like Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk find themselves caught between establishment pressure to maintain unwavering support for Israel and audiences increasingly troubled by civilian casualties. This represents a significant crack in what was once the most controlled topic in American political discourse, potentially reshaping foreign policy debates for years to come.
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome to Provoked
2:11 Ukraine Peace Talks in Alaska
13:43 Russia's Territorial Gains
24:40 Understanding Ukrainian Nazism
43:17 The Human Cost of War
55:07 Israel's Gaza Campaign and Media Shifts
1:07:31 Shifting Tides in Political Commentary
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Darryl is traveling this week. So Scott invited a good friend of both to join the show!
ENJOY! (prod. chris did a lot censoring to keep YT happy! :) )
# #
The war in Ukraine grinds on with no end in sight as peace negotiations repeatedly fail due to poison pills disguised as compromise. Scott Horton and GUEST host - Comic Dave Smith dissect the recent talks in Alaska, where "security guarantees" for Ukraine functioned as NATO membership by another name—a non-starter for Russia and likely designed to be rejected.
Russia continues making steady territorial gains, now controlling approximately three-quarters of Donetsk and two-thirds of both Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. This slow-motion advance strengthens Putin's negotiating position while depleting Ukrainian resources. The fundamental misunderstanding of the conflict's origins—demonstrated even by Donald Trump's belief that "Obama gave Ukraine to Putin" rather than recognizing NATO expansion as the core issue—makes meaningful resolution nearly impossible.
Perhaps most concerning is the rising influence of Ukraine's far-right nationalist elements, particularly the Azov Battalion. What began as a volunteer militia in 2014 has evolved into an official military unit with explicit neo-Nazi connections. Recent reporting reveals Azov leader Andrei Beletsky is positioning himself for political power in post-war Ukraine, envisioning a militarized state modeled after Israel. Western defense contractors reportedly prefer working with Azov units because they operate outside normal Ukrainian military command structures without demanding kickbacks.
The conversation shifts to examining how Israel's campaign in Gaza has fundamentally altered media dynamics in the United States. Prominent right-wing commentators like Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk find themselves caught between establishment pressure to maintain unwavering support for Israel and audiences increasingly troubled by civilian casualties. This represents a significant crack in what was once the most controlled topic in American political discourse, potentially reshaping foreign policy debates for years to come.
Chapters:
0:00 Welcome to Provoked
2:11 Ukraine Peace Talks in Alaska
13:43 Russia's Territorial Gains
24:40 Understanding Ukrainian Nazism
43:17 The Human Cost of War
55:07 Israel's Gaza Campaign and Media Shifts
1:07:31 Shifting Tides in Political Commentary
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What happens to a country that fights war after war, year after year? The price goes far beyond the money spent and the lives lost overseas. In this candid and unflinching conversation, Scott Horton and Daryl Cooper dig into the less visible ways America’s global military machine eats away at our economy, our politics, and even our national character.
Scott begins with the financial side of the story. He explains how the government’s control over interest rates creates fake boom-and-bust cycles that hammer working Americans while keeping the war machine running. “They tax what they can, then they borrow more, and then they print the rest,” he says. This, he argues, quietly shifts wealth upward while ordinary people bear the pain through inflation and instability. Federal Reserve policy and military spending feed into each other, creating a loop where war looks “affordable” on paper, but its real costs are hidden.
Daryl takes the discussion into darker territory: the spiritual and psychological toll of perpetual war. Drawing on his time in the military, he describes how two decades of nonstop conflict have dulled our ability to feel outrage at atrocities. From Abu Ghraib to Gaza, repeated exposure to violence has numbed the nation’s conscience. “You’re a different kind of person once you’re inured to that kind of thing,” Daryl says. “And it’s not an improvement.” That numbness, he warns, reaches well beyond the battlefield—affecting civilians, too.
They also walk through striking examples from history and current events. Declassified documents on Russiagate reveal how manufactured narratives can shape public opinion for years. Scott revisits the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, pointing out that top American generals—Eisenhower, MacArthur, Nimitz, and even Curtis LeMay—believed the bomb was unnecessary and immoral. For many, learning that challenges a lifetime of accepted history, sparking deeper questions about what else we’ve been told.
This is more than a discussion about foreign policy. It’s a reckoning with what decades of war have done to us as a nation. The most dangerous cost may not be measured in dollars or body counts—it might be losing the ability to recognize ourselves in the mirror.
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The intelligence community's role in shaping American foreign policy and domestic politics takes center stage in this eye-opening conversation. Scott and Darryl begin by honoring Ron Paul's 90th birthday, reflecting on his unwavering commitment to non-interventionism and his prescient warnings about blowback from American military adventures abroad. As they discuss his consistent opposition to war—from Lebanon in the 1980s to his accurate COVID-19 predictions—they paint a portrait of a principled statesman whose views have been vindicated time and again.
The conversation shifts to Syria, exploring how Western intelligence agencies orchestrated chaos by supporting jihadist groups against Assad's regime. Drawing parallels to William Van Wagenen's new book "Creative Chaos," they examine how the CIA's strategy wasn't simply regime change but the deliberate fragmentation of Syria into warring factions—creating permanent instability that serves regional interests while devastating civilian populations. The hosts don't hold back in describing the human cost of these policies, from displaced families to the rise of ISIS.
Most provocatively, Scott and Darryl connect these foreign policy machinations to domestic politics through Russiagate. They meticulously deconstruct how intelligence agencies allegedly fabricated evidence against Trump campaign officials like Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, while destroying the lives of ordinary campaign volunteers through endless interrogations and legal expenses. What emerges is a troubling picture of unelected officials operating beyond democratic oversight to determine which leaders are acceptable both abroad and at home.
Whether you're concerned about America's role in the Middle East or the integrity of our democratic institutions, this discussion raises profound questions about accountability in our intelligence services. When agencies that operate in shadows decide they know better than voters, what becomes of representative government? Listen now to explore what happens when the watchers themselves go unchecked.
Chapters
0:32Episode Introduction
9:07Ron Paul's 90th Birthday Celebration
17:05Syria's Civil War and Western Intervention
37:26The Oded Yanon Plan and Regional Chaos
53:34Russiagate Origins and CIA Involvement
1:05:39The Framing of Trump Campaign Officials
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The humanitarian catastrophe unfolding in Gaza takes center stage as Daryl Cooper and Scott Horton examine damning testimony from a retired US special forces officer about Israeli tactics at food distribution centers. Colonel Coney Aguilera, a veteran of twelve deployments including Iraq and Afghanistan, recently revealed witnessing IDF soldiers deliberately firing on civilians - including children - who were simply seeking food. His firsthand account confirms what media reports and humanitarian organizations have documented for months, adding another layer of credibility to claims that civilians are being deliberately targeted.
Beyond the immediate crisis, the conversation weaves through the tangled history of the region, challenging common misconceptions about Palestinian identity and nationhood. Cooper brilliantly dismantles the narrative that Palestinians lack legitimate claim to their homeland, explaining how property rights and generational ties to specific places represent the most fundamental basis for belonging. "These were ordinary people with their lives, families, and livelihoods in this place," Cooper explains, cutting through ideological abstractions to focus on the human reality.
Perhaps most revealing is their exploration of Netanyahu's documented support for Hamas - a cynical strategy confirmed by multiple sources including Israeli police interrogations where Netanyahu admitted "controlling the height of the flame." This historical context upends the simplistic framing of the conflict, revealing how Israeli leadership deliberately strengthened Hamas to prevent Palestinian unity and block statehood possibilities. As Horton points out, most Gazans today were either minors or not even born during the 2005 elections, making collective punishment not just morally indefensible but factually nonsensical.
The conversation represents a growing shift in American discourse, particularly among conservatives who have traditionally supported Israel unconditionally. With figures like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens publicly challenging Israeli actions, and polls showing 50% of Republicans now disapproving of Israel, we're witnessing a sea change in public opinion that transcends traditional political divides.
Ready to delve deeper into these critical issues? Subscribe to Daryl's Martyr Made podcast for his upcoming series on German soldiers' experiences in WWII, and explore Scott's extensive interview archives at scotthortonshow.com, where you'll find thousands of conversations with experts on foreign policy, war, and peace.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction
9:51 The Deep History of Slavery
19:07 Understanding Palestine: Historical Context
34:42 Gaza Humanitarian Crisis: Colonel Aguilera's Testimony
48:55 Resistance Under Occupation: Hamas and Israel
1:06:42 Netanyahu's Role in Supporting Hamas
1:13:58 Closing Thoughts and Show Information
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Hey folks, welcome back to Provoked. In this episode, we dive into some of the ugliest truths behind a few major global conflicts—most of all, what's happening right now in Gaza.
Let’s get this straight right off the bat—it’s not a war. That word gives the impression of two sides in some kind of fair fight. What we’re seeing in Gaza is nothing like that. It’s a one-sided assault. Humanitarian organizations are reporting that Palestinians are literally starving to death—starving—while aid is being blocked. Israel tries to deflect blame by saying Hamas intercepts the aid, but when you dig into it, those claims are massively overblown. At the same time, they’re bombing the actual distribution sites.
And then there’s this thing called the “Mosquito Protocol” that came out in Israeli media. It’s horrifying—soldiers using Palestinian civilians, including children and elderly people, as human shields to clear buildings that might be booby-trapped. And they still accuse Hamas of using civilians as shields? It’s a textbook case of projection.
It gets darker. Israeli leaders aren’t even pretending anymore. Netanyahu’s telling his people to treat Palestinians like Amalek—that’s a biblical tribe that was ordered to be wiped out entirely. That’s not just some ancient metaphor. That’s a call for genocide.
We also dig into the way modern propaganda works. It’s not about censoring everything—it's about overwhelming people. Flood the zone with so much noise, so many stories, that even the most horrific realities—like children dying from hunger—just blend into the background. It becomes another headline people scroll past.
That’s the real danger. In the past, regimes at least tried to hide their crimes. Now, they’re bold about it, because they know people are desensitized, distracted, and unsure what’s real. It’s all by design.
We also get into the Oklahoma City bombing and the Epstein case—two stories where the official version just doesn’t add up. These are entry points for people to start questioning the system itself.
Back in the Cold War, you had a few network anchors telling everyone what to believe. Now it's chaos—millions of voices, total fragmentation—and still, somehow, the truth is just as buried. It’s all managed differently now, through noise instead of silence.
We close things out with updates on Ukraine, where Russian forces keep advancing while protests break out in Kyiv, and Syria, where it’s still a tangled mess of shifting alliances and endless war. Across all these conflicts, there’s one thing in common—zero accountability for the people with the most power.
It’s a heavy episode, but if you want to understand the world as it really works—not the sanitized version—we’re laying it all out.
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The Jeffrey Epstein story refuses to fade away, despite powerful efforts to suppress it. As Daryl Cooper prepares for his appearance on Tucker Carlson's show, he and Scott Horton discuss breaking news about a major newspaper reportedly set to release an exposé on Trump's relationship with Epstein - potentially explaining the former president's recent characterization of the entire investigation as "another Russiagate hoax."
We explore how the Epstein case has transcended its specific horrors to become a litmus test for elite accountability in America. When a convicted sex trafficker with connections to presidents, prime ministers, and other people of power can operate with impunity for decades, it raises profound questions about our institutions. As Cooper notes, "If we can't draw a line in the sand here, then people question whether we can draw it anywhere."
The conversation takes a fascinating turn as we examine how modern information ecosystems contribute to our fractured understanding of reality. Algorithmic content curation creates self-reinforcing bubbles that resemble cult dynamics, where consensus within groups diverges dramatically from objective truth. With AI-generated content becoming increasingly convincing, these information silos will only grow more impenetrable - making shared understanding of cases like Epstein's even more difficult to achieve.
Our wide-ranging discussion ultimately connects the dots between information manipulation, geopolitical conflicts, and accountability for the powerful. From Trump's evolving position on Ukraine to the devastating situation in Gaza (where a Holocaust studies professor has recently accused Israel of genocide), we confront how those in positions of authority often escape the consequences of their actions while ordinary people suffer.
Listen/Watch now for a thought-provoking exploration of power, justice, and the fragile nature of truth in our increasingly complex world. How do we maintain our grip on reality when everything from cell phone location data to historical analysis points to uncomfortable truths about those who lead us?
Chapters:
0:00 Intro and Epstein News Developing
9:51 Daryl Cooper's Upcoming Tucker Interview
23:45 Media Accusations and Historical Context
42:35 Echo Chambers and Information Reliability
52:45 Trump's Ukraine Flip-Flop
59:54 Gaza Crisis and Accusations of Genocide
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The Justice Department's startling claim that Jeffrey Epstein had no clients beyond himself and Ghislaine Maxwell raises disturbing questions about power, accountability, and institutional corruption. Scott Horton and Daryl Cooper meticulously unpack the web of connections surrounding Epstein's operation, revealing a pattern that suggests something far more sinister than a lone predator's crimes.
From Alex Acosta's bombshell admission that he was told Epstein "belonged to intelligence," to the bizarre coincidence that he was hired by Donald Barr (former OSS operative and father of William Barr) at the Dalton School, the evidence points toward organized protection at the highest levels. The hosts explore how Epstein's improbable career trajectory – from college dropout to trusted financial advisor for billionaires – makes sense only when viewed through the lens of intelligence operations and money laundering.The conversation takes a particularly dark turn when examining Epstein's connections to Robert Maxwell (known intelligence asset and father of Ghislaine), and the inexplicable decision by billionaire Les Wexner to grant Epstein complete power of attorney over his business empire. These relationships, coupled with the systematic suppression of reporting on Epstein's crimes – including intimidation tactics against journalists – suggest a coordinated effort to protect not just Epstein, but an entire network of powerful interests.
What emerges is a compelling case that Epstein operated with institutional backing, possibly as part of larger intelligence operations involving blackmail and influence. The hosts argue that understanding this case is crucial not just for justice for victims, but as a window into how power actually works in our society – a truth that remains relevant long after the headlines fade.
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What happens when a society built on "never again" becomes the very force it once condemned? In this unflinching examination of America's role in global violence, Scott Horton and Daryl Cooper peel back the comfortable narratives we tell ourselves about being the world's moral leaders.
The conversation begins with Scott sharing his recent Tucker Carlson interview before diving deep into the horrifying realities of Israel's Gaza campaign. Using firsthand accounts, including Israeli military testimonies from Haaretz, they reveal the systematic dehumanization and targeted starvation of Palestinians. When Israeli forces lure hungry civilians with promises of food, only to unleash machine gun fire and artillery—all with American weapons—what does this say about our national character?
Both hosts bring uncommon intellectual honesty to topics most commentators avoid. Daryl challenges listeners to perform a simple thought experiment: "If foreign forces occupied America, wouldn't we resist?" By examining our reflexive responses to resistance movements, they expose the double standards embedded in American political discourse. The discussion connects our earliest educational experiences—like watching Schindler's List in middle school—to our inability to recognize similar atrocities happening today.
The conversation extends to America's "longest war" in Somalia, where we've conducted 44 bombing raids in 2023 alone with virtually no public awareness. This normalization of perpetual warfare reveals how far we've strayed from constitutional principles and basic human decency. What emerges is a powerful argument that true patriotism requires moral consistency. For those seeking to understand why America's standing has diminished globally, this episode provides uncomfortable but essential answers. Rather than hiding behind partisan talking points, Scott and Daryl invite listeners into a space where genuine reflection becomes possible.
Why do we celebrate freedom fighters in historical contexts but condemn them in contemporary ones? Can America reclaim its moral authority without confronting its complicity in global suffering? Listen now and join the growing conversation about what our nation truly represents in today's world.
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The premiere episode of "Provoked" features Scott Horton and Darryl Cooper exploring the psychology of conflict and how ordinary people become participants in cycles of violence. Cooper, host of Martyr Made and former Department of Defense engineer, draws from his extensive experience working in Israel and deep historical research to unpack the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Cooper shares the remarkable journey behind his acclaimed "Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem" series, where he read hundreds of books and thousands of documents to understand a conflict most Americans only superficially comprehend. His commitment to humanizing both sides has resonated powerfully with listeners—including an IDF soldier who changed how he interacted with Palestinians after listening.
What makes this conversation exceptional is Cooper's perspective on human psychology in conflict zones. Drawing from his observations during numerous visits to Israel between 2009-2019, he describes witnessing the growing siege mentality among Israelis and the transformation of their response protocols under Netanyahu's leadership. The discussion examines how prolonged conflict warps moral frameworks, allowing even humanitarian-minded people to advocate for increasingly extreme measures against perceived enemies.
The conversation extends to the recent Iran-Israel conflict, with Cooper providing unique insights into what appears to have been a regime change operation that lacked a viable backup plan. His analysis suggests both sides learned valuable lessons about each other's capabilities which might actually reduce future conflict escalation—a rare sliver of hope in an otherwise concerning regional dynamic.
Join Scott and Darryl each week as they tackle complex global conflicts with nuance, historical context, and psychological insight you won't find in mainstream coverage. Subscribe now and discover why understanding the humanity behind conflicts might be our best hope for ultimately resolving them.
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