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An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside.
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Send us Fan Mail One bad moment on a sideline can wreck a match, end a referee’s season, or follow someone home for weeks. We start with real-world, field-tested guidance on spectator interaction: what to expect, what to ignore, when to explain a call, and why confronting parents directly so often backfires. If you care about referee abuse, match control, and keeping games safe for kids, this first part is packed with practical referee tips you can use this weekend. Then I’m joined by Margar...
Send us Fan Mail You can be in your mid-50s, start refereeing “late,” and still earn the biggest assignments if you show up prepared, fit, and professional. That’s the heart of our conversation with Jim Lacey, a Los Angeles-area-based grassroots referee, mentor, and instructor who also happens to be a cancer epidemiologist. Jim shares how he moved from AYSO into USSF, started working higher levels alongside his son, and learned what tournament environments like Far West Regionals truly reward...
Send us Fan Mail You can love sports and still admit this: the culture can be brutal on mental health. I sit down with Sky Arthur-Banning to talk about why sport is one of the best places to spot distress early, reduce stigma, and build real support networks for athletes, coaches, parents, and officials. We also name the stakes, including suicide prevention, the reality that many people suffer in silence, and why knowing resources like the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline matters. Sky breaks ...
Send us Fan Mail A retired Army Ranger captaining Team USA after a traumatic brain injury. A World Cup coming to Georgia that most soccer fans do not even know exists. A version of the game where the toughest calls are not about memorizing rules, but about understanding how an athlete’s body moves and what “fair” really means. That’s where this conversation with Dr. Skye Arthur Banning takes us, and it left me genuinely rethinking the craft of officiating the beautiful game. Skye is a ...
Send us Fan Mail Youth soccer can’t function without referees, yet too many leagues treat officials like an afterthought until the shortage hits. I sit down with Michelle Chesters, Executive Director of SoCal Soccer League, to talk candidly about what it really takes to support referees across one of the biggest youth soccer footprints in the United States: roughly 5,200 teams, over 50,000 players, and games scattered across about 1,200 field locations on a typical weekend. When that many mat...
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